Unreferenced flowers?

[2COOL]

I often wondered about the significance of these flowers that I found in a few commercial DVDs. They are commonly unreferenced and with no buttons. Though, I have came across other variations in the past, here's one example (http://img198.echo.cx/my.php?image=simbaspridevmgm192tv.png) of what I'm talking about. I found these in Lion King II - Simba's Pride (Region 1), VMGM 19.

http://www.glowfoto.com/images/2005/05/28-2137384104T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=28-213738L&y=2005&m=05&t=jpg&rand=4104)

Perhaps, others would like to post their findings here too?

Update: Above flowers can be found on these DVDs too.

Save the Last Dance (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [Paramount]
Star Trek: Insurrection (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [Paramount]
Chinatown (R1) - VTSM 1/3/4, 2 [Paramount] Reported by arsmori


American Pie 2 (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [Universal]
Bring it On (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [Universal]
The Family Man (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [Universal]
The Mummy Returns (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [Universal]

Cast Away (R1) - VTSM 1, 1+2 [20th Century Fox]

[Video Dude]

I first spotted these mystery flowers on DVDs a number of years ago. They seem to be found on most Disney DVDs, but after more spelunking they have also been discovered on other studio discs. It's a mystery how these flowers can survive on a DVD, since they are almost always in total darkness and don't have a water supply.


But seriously ... best guess is that this is some sort of easter egg or watermark that the programmers put in some of their authoring programs.

[blutach]

And, well known, are the "Spruce menus", where the root menu of every VTS has an ad (that never gets played).

Never seen the flowers before. Very nice.

Regards

[absinthe]

Are you talking about a literal picture of flowers? I've seen these. I've always assumed they were supposed to be 'innocent' little things to play back when child protection or whatever was turned on. I know I've seen them when backing up my "Nightmare Before Christmas" DVD.

-abs

[2COOL]

I think I saw another unreferenced BMP which was a picture of a piano's keys under a dim glow. When I happened upon it again, I'll post it.

[absinthe]

Yes, now that you've posted a pic I can say that's definitely on the R1 "Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas" special edition. Don't have it handy at the moment to give you the locale(s), but as I recall it was on there several times.

-abs

[video_magic]

Bizarre..... :eek: . Maybe they are some kind of filler, something that is referenced from somewhere to check if a DVD is original or copy - if flowers won't get copied.

[nwg]

I have seen this several times and they did get copied with DVD Shrink with the DVD I had. I always thought they were some sort of watermark.

I still ended up still imaging them.

[arsmori]

Aren't these used as filler to ensure the 32k gap?
Beside the flowers and spruce logo, I've seen unreferenced gray screen and color bars on Dutch releases.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by arsmori
Aren't these used as filler to ensure the 32k gap?I don't believe so as the flowers I have are either in a single VTS or in a VMGM menu.

[arsmori]

Flowers spotted in Chinatown, Paramount R1, VTSM 1/3/4, 2 - yeah, I'm bored…

[spyhawk]

I've seen quite a few of these too. These flowers are automatically - most likely - put by an authoring software, usually in VTSM (root menu). It has no significance.

[mpucoder]

If they're only in menu vob files, then that suggests a theory. Could they be there just as filler to ensure the file is >=32K?

[spyhawk]

That could be the reason.

I usually just hide or delete it and enable 32k gap. I know it's redundant in terms of doing this step and total dvd size, but I just like it clean. :D