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thecrock
24th May 2005, 00:26
I used tmpgenc to put subtitles into a movie and encoded it, what i have got back is a wave audio file and a mpeg video file(with the subtitles), am i going to have to put the audio and the video files back into tmpgenc and encode again or is there a way around this, i don't know if it will work because i get no audio in the tmpgenc preview mode. I know i have made a silly mistake somewhere but could anybody point me in the right direction?

movmasty
24th May 2005, 12:15
Not encoding, its called muxing, tmpg can do, look in tools, but you have to encode only the wav to mp2 before.

thecrock
24th May 2005, 14:39
How do i encode wav to mp2?

jggimi
24th May 2005, 14:43
http://www.doom9.org/audio-guides.htm

thecrock
24th May 2005, 16:30
Ok so i have to convert wav to mp2 with besweet and then load my mpeg movie and the converted mp2 file into tmpgenc and mux them. The resulting file should be ready to burn to dvd without nero having to encode it. Does this sound right to you guys?

jggimi
24th May 2005, 21:07
You'll end up with a "system" .mpg file, containing both an MPEG-2 video and an MPEG-1 layer II audio.

If you want to make a DVD, it still needs to be Authored. Authoring may include building menus (and any A/V needed for them), etc -- and creating the .VOB and .IFO structures you expect on a DVD. TMPG DVD Author is one program that can help you do this, for more info see:

http://www.doom9.org/dvd-structure.htm
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvdr-guides.htm

thecrock
24th May 2005, 23:04
Okay i have my mp2 audio file and my mpeg video and i want to mux them, is muxing the same as multiplexing? This is why i'm in the newbie section.
Thanks for your patience guys.

jggimi
24th May 2005, 23:06
Yes, mux = multiplex.

You may find this website helpful; I keep a bookmark to it with me all the time:

www.acronymfinder.com

thecrock
24th May 2005, 23:51
I have run the files through tmpgenc simple multiplex and multiplex and the resultant file freezes on playback in both cases.

jggimi
24th May 2005, 23:57
Do the separate track (sound and video) files play?

thecrock
25th May 2005, 00:16
Yes they play, i checked them first. The video file has the ext .m2v, i didn't mention this-is it relevant?

jggimi
25th May 2005, 04:59
"Freezes on playback" is insufficient information for me to help you further, since I do not know what player you're using, what failures if any are reported in your OS's event log, or what that particular described symptom actually means.

However, I will point you to http://www.doom9.org/mpg/tmpg_procedures.htm, which may render some operational assistance, should you have run into a procedural problem.

Of course, I'm working with very limited information. Not just with your latest problem, but also, not knowing exactly what you are trying to accomplish. All I know is that you are using TMPG to encode to MPEG-2 for eventual use in a DVD, but I do not know your source format(s), what other procedures you have been using (other than BeSweet), what settings you've chosen, or what other toolsets you might be using as part of your procedure.

Since you're a newbie, I strongly recommend following Doom9's guides, rather than trying to discover a procedure through trial and error on your own. Once you've got a process well understood, you can then begin to customize to meet unique requirements.

If you can't find the appropriate guide, just let us know, and we'll guide you to the guide (or guides) that are appropriate to your needs. But for us to help you better, we need to know both: What content format(s) you're starting with What output format(s) you are trying to achieve.In this case, we know "b" but not "a" -- and its quite likely that there is a toolset available that will get you the results you're looking for with a minimum of trouble.

As one possible example, if your original source is .avi, the DVD2SVCD encoding suite -- which can be integrated with TMPG for MPEG-2 encoding -- in AVI2DVD mode can produce an ISO-compliant DVD image file (.iso) suitable for burning on DVD, without much effort on the part of the user.

thecrock
25th May 2005, 12:22
Yes JGIMMI, I think i do need to study up on some of these procedures as i am in the dark about a lot of the terms and procedures that are available to me, i'ts nice to have people there to help but it's also fun to research yourself. There are a lot of curses floating about my house when something i am working on doesn't run smoothly but as soon as i fix a problem i find myself looking for another problem to solve-and that is where the fun is, for me anyway. Thanks for your suggestions and i will post my solution when i find it.
Peace

thecrock
25th May 2005, 15:56
I wanted to add a subtitle file to divx movie to display the subtitles over the film for playback on a standalone dvd player.

Here is my solution.

I have virtualdubmod, tmpgenc, besweet and besweetgui, vfapi and directshow.

First of all I created a wav audio file from the avi using virtualdubmod as I have read that tmpgenc sometimes has issues with mp3audio. Then I loaded the avi and the new wav file into tmpgencplus and set the environmental settings in vfapi-plugin so that directshow multimedia file reader was at the top of the list and encoded to dvd pal format. I got back two files, one a dvd video file with the subtitles overlayed and the other an mpeg audio file. I then loaded the new audio file into besweetgui and converted it to mp2. Then I loaded my dvd file and new mp2 file into tmpgenc and multiplexed the two files in the mpeg tools section using the mpeg2(vbr) setting, this gave me a single file ready to burn to dvd –I used nero. For some reason windows media player kept freezing when I tried to play back the new file so I tested it with both nero showtime and zoomplayer and they handled the file with no problems whatsoever. Then I burned the project to dvd and enjoyed watching my now subtitled movie.
I am a newbie and there is probably an easier way to do this, I know that you can use virtualdubmod with the textsub filter installed but this would have meant encoding the whole avi before encoding it for dvd standalone playback and this means loss in quality, does this sound right?
Any input will be most appreciated.

Should i put this in the subtitle section?

jggimi
26th May 2005, 03:39
Because you're converting your video to MPEG-2, I assume that you are attempting to produce a DVD video disc. If your standalone DVD player happened to support DivX files, you wouldn't need to deal with MPEG-2 encoding or authoring a DVD video disc in the first place.

I recommend starting with this link: http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvdr-guides.htm. It will take you to encoding guides for MPEG-2 video that is DVD compliant. You should make sure you review the TMPG guide there to make sure the MPEG-2 video you create is DVD compliant. More importantly it will take you to a large set of Authoring guides. That is where you should spend the bulk of your reading time.

In addition, I recommend reviewing http://www.doom9.org/dvd-structure.htm, even if you've already read it once. This is one of the 13 helpful links in http://www.doom9.org/dvd-basics.htm.

To get from Newbie to non-Newbie is a process that includes a lot of reading, then some more reading, and then finally, once the reading is done .... reading some more.