PGC 0.5.6 (bug)

[Amir]

Hi,

I've got the movie "The Color Of Money" and it has those very annoying FBI warnings (white text on green background).

Removing these is VERY easy with ifoedit, there are three pgc you delete (using the delete playback button) and its in three vobids.

Now I'm transitioning away from ifoedit to pgcedit as this new tool is far better IMHO.

I found the right pgc and right clicked on kill playback. I was prompted if i want to mark as vobblanker compatible (to blank in there). I declined as i had already down sized the dvd and was not bothered if it was burned to disc (i'd never see it anyway).

When I played back the PGC edited disc the DVD player stalls right away (says its playing but dvd does not start).

I checked VIDEO_TS.IFO and noticed the PGCs were not deleted (as ifoedit actually removes then and you no longer see a "USES VOBID:4" type string when looking at the PGCs.

I expect PGCEdit might play with the pre/post commands and not delete the playback as ifoedit does.

Anyway has anyone seen this before?.

I saw this last night too btw on another disc. I checked on my xbox and the dvd worked, but on my 2 dvd players (cheap no name and Sony one) the disc stalled. The sony said it was on TITLE 15 (it was a disc called "spaced season 1" that i had split into 2 discs). Title 15 was a short into by the studio. I blanked that titelset with vobblanker and then burned again (too see what would happen) and the disc played :-o

Anyway to deal with this dvs (the color of money) i used ifo edit and use the delete playback button. I'd much rather use pgcedit as i like that more.

All ideas welcome...

[dirio49]

i don't really know
but a similar thing happened to me.
when i erased the parental control buttons and vob. and i had the parental control enabled. my dvd would not play because the dvd had bad parental.
this maybe the problem for you too. you can try to kill the parental controls with pgcedit.
best of luck
hope it helps

edit
when i disable the parental controls it played fine. and i also played fine on the computer.

[Amir]

thanks for the reply, when i get a chance i'll try that...

Btw i did NOTHING to the parental levels etc. The ONLY thing I did in the case of "The color of money" DVD was go to the right hand pane in PGCEdit and find the right pgc (clicked on pgc, then on the "menu" button to preview). When I got the right PGC i right clicked on it and choose "Kill pgc playback", in the next popup window it asked me something about marking as dummy for vobblanker, i said no as i didnt want to do any other processing after pgcedit (the discs were already downsized and good to go).

Cant wait to test your theory, a bit confused about why the Parental levels might have been broken as I never edited/updated them.

Also, if it was the parental level, i usually get something about "parental level set" on the xbox, i can choose to ignore the "error" and continue, I didnt see this when I tested the on the xbox, it worked fine on the xbox. I have the offical DVD playback kit on the xbox.

[zacoz]

Originally posted by Amir
I expect PGCEdit might play with the pre/post commands and not delete the playback as ifoedit does. You're correct. When killing playback in PgcEdit, it inserts a NOP command at the end of the pre commands, then copies in the post commands after that.

I've never encountered the problem you describe, however based on your post I gather that you have previously done some other processing - maybe this has had an impact, particularly as it's occurred to 2 discs. One of the guru's around may be able to offer some insight.

[Amir]

Originally posted by zacoz
You're correct. When killing playback in PgcEdit, it inserts a NOP command at the end of the pre commands, then copies in the post commands after that.

I've never encountered the problem you describe, however based on your post I gather that you have previously done some other processing - maybe this has had an impact, particularly as it's occurred to 2 discs. One of the guru's around may be able to offer some insight.

Well the disc I did yesterday was a simple disc split (blanked second set of cells with vobblanker in first disc and first set of cells on second disc + fixed up chapter button to go to right pgc for chapter selection screen i.e. disc 1 shows chapter screens 1-3 (chapters 1-15) and disc two goes to chapter screen that shows chapter 16->end, works sweet).

Todays disc is intersting because...

a) Left alone its fine (but has annoying FBI screens)
b) Can be fixed fine in 2 secs with ifoedit using DELETE playback button
c) Very simple blank playback operatio so should be easy to see whats going wrong for the experts (which i'm not) :-(

So its a good disc because what I am trying to do with the current disc is VERY simple.

Its also interesting to see that the cure yesterdays "problem/stalling" disc was to blank it (the stalling titleset 15) with Vobblanker.

[Amir]

Forgot to mention these problem discs work fine on my PC, however I know PC DVD players are VERY poor testers for discs as they allow bad discs to work when I know they are not correct.

[zacoz]

If you wish to PM me the relevant IFO, I'll have a look at it tomorrow (off to bed now) to see if anything stands out.

[blutach]

Post your commands for the PGC concerned. Go to the PGC, click on Info - PGC and post what you have.

Never burn before you trace things through/test in a software player.

Regards

[Amir]

sorry for not replying ive been busy with work :-(

Ok what I've just tried it to recrate the issue, and i've found this time it worked. Now i'm confuse :-\

I dont have the bad disc as i just erased it (same +RW disc). If the same operation works fine then maybe its the way it rights the disc, or maybe the fact that I've rebooted has helped.

What I propose is that we forget this post and if/when it happens again i'll resurect this thread...wish i had used another RW disc rather than the same one now :-(

[blutach]

OK Amir - maybe this time, you did it right, though :)

Regards

[r0lZ]

In PgcEdit, the Kill Playback macro changes the pre-commands of the PGC so that it will not be played. This way, you may also kill playback in the title domain. (Deleting the playback in a title domain is illegal.)

If the PGC is in a menu domain, you may also Delete the playback (like IfoEdit does). This operation converts the PGC to dummy.
Furthermore, if the cells of the PGC are not used elsewhere in the domain, they will be unreferenced. Therefore, it's easy to blank them with VobBlanker: just process the title domain, and the unreferenced cell will be converted to a black frame (or just dropped).

Sometimes, Kill Playback may not work. This is the case when a pre-command jumps inside the PGC, for example to cell 2. But in such situations, a dialog pops up, asking if you want to continue anyway.

Also, it is generally not a good idea to kill playback on a menu with buttons, because the normal navigation will probably be lost.

Personally, I have never encountered other situations where Kill Playback was not successful.