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humfrydog
17th May 2005, 20:49
Please advise me as to what to download or purchase.I have used dvd shrink to copy to hard drive but never made a disk.I found it very easy to use.I have tried dvd decrypter but felt overwhelmed and under skilled.
I have an older pioneer dvd player and a seperate pioneeer dvd writer(I believe they are A03 and A04).i have 1 gig ramm and 80 gig hard drive with a amd 1800 chipset.I originally purchased my setup a little over 3 years ago intent on backing up my dvd collection and making dvds of my old vhs stuff.
I would like a simple as possible program as possible.Alot of the terms i read confuse me.With dvdshrink I understood most of it and felt comfortable.I am willing to pay for my lack of knowledge for a program that works.thank you for helping a newbee.
what do you think of [edit: cheesy way to advertise your scam program.]
You have two of the best already - you just need to find the right guide to get the best out of them both.
cheers
maa
dvd_maniac
17th May 2005, 23:30
You do have two of the simplest programs to use for what you want. However, You could buy a Dual Layer dvd writer and wait a little while for dual media prices to come down. Then for the most part all you need to do is use DVDDecryptor to burn image and then write image. Some of your DVDs are probably dvd-5 and they can be done this way now.
Use ISO -> Read mode.
After the ISO is written to hard drive then
Use ISO -> Write mode.
You can find this very ssimple guide on doom9's Guide page.
Then click DVD\MiniDVD
Then DVD Backup Guides
Then DVD-5 -> DVD±R
humfrydog
18th May 2005, 00:33
Upon reading the guide for dvdshrink it states i need "nero" program to burn.Is this the program I need to add?
2COOL
18th May 2005, 01:28
Originally posted by humfrydog
Upon reading the guide for dvdshrink it states i need "nero" program to burn.Is this the program I need to add? You don't need Nero to burn. DVD Decrypter can do just fine.
From Official DVD Shrink forum, http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45238
There are also other things in the FAQ thread for you to peruse through also. Alot of DVD Shrink users here are members over there also.
EDIT: There are another 2 free tools that utilizes DVD Decrypter for burning.
PgcEdit and Imgtools Classic
feedback
21st May 2005, 06:59
Upon reading the guide for dvdshrink it states i need "nero" program to burn.Is this the program I need to add?
To answer your question...yes.
There is DVD Decrypter which is a freeware app.(and a darn good one) to burn with shrink, but as you indicated that you were willing to pay and felt comfortable with shrink then I would suggest Nero.
The creator of shrink, as has been indicated around the internet community, is reputed to work for Nero now. That may be the reason Nero Recode looks so familiar. The app. is very similar to shrink. So, what you would want would be the "Nero 6 Ultra Edition"
Hope this helps, check the link below:)
www.nero.com
SciFer
26th May 2005, 11:01
Call me old fashion, but if you can get a copy of Pinnacle Instant Copy version 7 or 8 you will find that, IMHO, that the quality is better than Shrink. When using Pinnacle Instant Copy you can use it as beginner then, as you get more familiar, you can get into the advance settings. I've been doing this since back in the days of IFO Edit and have tried everything under the sun and still prefer Instant Copy. It's a matter of preferance and everyone will have a different opinion so I don't mean to start up a debate, this is just my 2 cents.
Chetwood
27th May 2005, 08:01
Originally posted by SciFer
Call me old fashion, but if you can get a copy of Pinnacle Instant Copy version 7 or 8 you will find that, IMHO, that the quality is better than Shrink.
Not anymore since Shrink has Adaptive Error Compensation settings. Besides, there's no tool easier to work with than DVD Shrink, certainly not IC.
SciFer
27th May 2005, 19:04
Originally posted by Chetwood
Not anymore since Shrink has Adaptive Error Compensation settings. Besides, there's no tool easier to work with than DVD Shrink, certainly not IC.
According to this thread I stand corrected:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=80279
But these other threads make for good reading too:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=55844
and
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=92479
jwo62
31st May 2005, 18:57
In my opinion,
Dvd95copy is the best dvd backup software. its constantly being updated,easy to use,rips,shrinks and burns. it does arccos discs and is easy to use. there is also a free(limited) demo.
http://www.dvd95copy.com/demodl.htm
This is only my opinion.
between dvdshrink,dvdd and the other freeware mentioned here,the same results CAN be achieved.
Jim
2COOL
31st May 2005, 22:13
In my opinion,
Dvd95copy is the best dvd backup software. its constantly being updated,easy to use,rips,shrinks and burns. it does arccos discs and is easy to use. there is also a free(limited) demo.IMO, DVDShrink's previewing capabilities outperforms DVD95copy.
jwo62
1st June 2005, 06:44
Hi 2cool,
that is true. I have heard several complaints about the poor functionality of the preview. this would be a problem for someone who usees it all the time. I saw a post where someone said they were using dvdshrink to preview and dvd95copy to process(and split I think).
there also seems to be a problem where the preview doesnt work unless the files are already on your HD.
personaly,I rarely use the preview as I usually keep all the extras,no need to preview in that case.
Its the ability to remove titles,in my case I always remove a second aspect ratio,and still keep the menus and all the extras,with one click.
Its also convienient to have a single program that can rip,process and burn all in one step. including arccos. dvdshrink can,of course do this too using DVDD and nero,except on arccos discs.
In addition to the ability to do splits,1:1,full disc and movie only backups,the next version is going to have a title join function.
Like I said though,dvd95copy is my favorite,and thats just my opinion. what works for me,may not work for someone else.
actually,I recomend that the author of this thread learn to make dvdd and dvdshrink work before even thinking about buying anything. I think its safe to say that if you have problems with dvdd and dvdshrink,you will have problems with any other backup program.
Jim
2COOL
1st June 2005, 06:53
the next version is going to have a title join function. I wonder how this is going to work out if I had two Titles with different aspect ratios (4:3 and 16:9). Are you saying joining as in merging?
Chetwood
1st June 2005, 09:15
Its also convienient to have a single program that can rip,process and burn all in one step. including arccos. dvdshrink can,of course do this too using DVDD and nero,except on arccos discs.
Well, you mention DVD Decrypter and it CAN do arccos discs.
jwo62
1st June 2005, 21:39
I wonder how this is going to work out if I had two Titles with different aspect ratios (4:3 and 16:9). Are you saying joining as in merging?
well,yes. one title would start immediatly after the other. this could be used to join a two sided disc,a double disc or put two or more movies on one disc.
using dvd2ones join feature I have been able to join two movies with different aspect ratios. just for a test recently, I joined two unrelated movies,national treasure and meet the fockers,it worked. the second title started as smoothly as going from one chapter to the next. in theory,you could join all three new star wars movies,removing the end credits,to one dual layer disc. But I wouldnt. I cant watch a backup of those movies.
I would imagine dvd95copy's join feature will be as good or better than dvd2ones.
Jim
jwo62
1st June 2005, 21:53
Well, you mention DVD Decrypter and it CAN do arccos discs.
dvd95copy does arccos discs perfectly without any helper programs,but only if it rips the movie itself with its internal ripping engine. not with dvdd decrypted files.
I usually only use dvdd to rip to my hard drive when I have several movies to backup. then I process/shrink with dvd95copy at my liesure. but when I rip with dvdd,I watch the log,if dvdd detects "structure protection",I stop and do that movie entirely with dvd95copy. It hasnt failed yet on arccos discs for me.
If I forget,or dont pay attention to the dvdd log,and do rip an arccos disc with dvdd,I use dvd2one for processing,this program does accept dvdd ripped arccos files,without any helper programs. unfortunatly, dvd2one doesnt have as many features.
It's funny,but I feel like I am the only user of the two programs this forum was started for.
Jim
Chetwood
2nd June 2005, 09:03
It's funny,but I feel like I am the only user of the two programs this forum was started for.
Which are? I'm not sure but weren't Instant Copy and DVD2One first? DVD2One and DVD Shrink came out in 2003 if I remember correctly...
jwo62
2nd June 2005, 17:51
Which are? I'm not sure but weren't Instant Copy and DVD2One first? DVD2One and DVD Shrink came out in 2003 if I remember correctly...
dvd2one was first,then dvd95copy,then IC and then dvdshrink. I'm fairly certain of this,but I could be wrong.
I bought dvd2one,dvd95copy and IC7 when they first came out. probably wouldnt have if shrink was available first,But I am glad I did buy both dvd2one and dvd95copy. I had nothing but trouble with IC7. I never updated to IC8, because dvd2one,dvd95copy and dvdshrink are so reliable,I just didnt need it. between these three programs, there has never been a movie I couldnt backup.
even though I primarily use dvd95copy or dvd2one,I still find myself using dvdshrink on occasion. just yesterday I tried to backup white noise, but dvd95copy said "dvd not ripped properly"(which is the error it gives for stucture protected discs ripped with dvdd) and dvd2one's finished files wouldnt play in my standalone(which is even more unusual). but I let dvdshrink do it,and it worked perfectly. I have had this happen from time to time.
Jim
herrick
4th June 2005, 00:05
I have used the shrinkster for about 5 mths now w/ out a problem, but now it takes 2-3 hrs to decode and write- have been to device mgr. and checked to see if in DMA mode and yes it is WHAT NOW please help....
cynthia_old
8th June 2005, 09:36
IMO, DVDShrink's previewing capabilities outperforms DVD95copy.True, also it only works on files located on the hard disk - not directly from a DVD.
SciFer
4th August 2006, 08:29
Does anyone still use Istant Copy? Just Curious.
elizerrojas
4th August 2006, 13:40
@ jw062. can you tell me what dvd2one version are you using? i have them both, but i like v 152 better.
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