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vas
27th April 2005, 01:48
im doing a season extras DVD, its got multiple VTS
do i just select 1 and click prepare? i cant select all of them

i want to do the whole disc...so im asking questions because i dont want to wait 30 hours for CCE to finish and find out it didnt do the whole disc


http://www.hkills.net/dvdrbr.JPG

jdobbs
27th April 2005, 01:55
By default it will do the whole disc -- you can only change that by selecting "Movie Only" mode.

Why would it possibly take 30 hours? A typical modern computer should be able to do it in 3 or so...

I'd recommend you specify something other than "Documents and Settings" for output though. Maybe a subdirectory called "Output"?

lamster
27th April 2005, 01:59
You don't need to select any - selecting one just populates the "to keep" windows with the information about the selected VTS.

vas
27th April 2005, 02:07
i dont know, i was doing some math in my head which rarely produces accurate results

i did 2-passes on another season DVD a few weeks ago and it took 272mins, about 4.5hrs
if that was 2-pass i figured 8..9 pass would take about 30hrs
ive seen the 'release groups' dvdrs before, there dam near flawless and they according to there info files use CCE w/8 or 9 passes

i just found that '1 pass VBR(w/analysis) option today, i did a 7.39gb movie which took like an hour or 2...when it was done i couldnt tell the difference between the dvdrb one and the original one
couldnt believe it

my output dir's are a few folders on my desktop..i dont know why but i used paint to white out the full path




i have to select at least 1...its got the first one in the list automatically selected

lark
27th April 2005, 04:23
why would you then like to do 8...9 passes?
i think most of us do 2. some go up to 4 or 5.

if you want to REMOVE some audio or subtitle streams from SOME vts, you CAN select the vts and untick the streams you want to remove. but looking at your picture, it LOOKS like there are no subtitles and only 1 audio stream => you don't have to select any VTS.

btw looks like you main video is in VTS2. maybe it had some other streams as well. and please note that based on your set-up, rb might have already unticked some streams for you. maybe you want to check them => click the VTSs one by one and check, which streams they'll have and which ones you are going to keep.

regards
t :)

vas
28th April 2005, 05:55
sry for teh bump...

i finished with the season DVD (1pass w/analysis), the results were way better then what i got with dvdshrink
there were 3 discs in total, i did 1 with cce and did the other 2 with dvdshrink(garb quality) ill probably never watch them so thats why i did the other 2 with shrink

2 passes takes me 4.5hrs, i did married with children se3d2 (2pass) and the results were garb...as a matter of fact the files for all of married with children seasons 2 & 3 are still sitting on my hardrive
and have been for about a month :(
because like i said the 2 passes was not worth the 4.5hr wait...id try 8 pass but my PC would blow up by the time it finished...its hot as hell where i live right now (it always is) and my lame mother doesnt like the AC...shes mental or something..i dont mean that but really she never turns the dam AC on, its gotta breach 95deg before she even considers turning it on

do any of the older or newer versions of CCE go any faster? right now im using CCE SP 2.70 Trial. (that work with DVDRB)

OvERaCiD23
28th April 2005, 07:01
Originally posted by vas

ive seen the 'release groups' dvdrs before, there dam near flawless and they according to there info files use CCE w/8 or 9 passes


Yes, and they waste a lot of time. Even the CCE documentation says anything over 4 is unnoticeable. There are numerous threads about this on the forum, read up if you don't believe us.

sweetness
28th April 2005, 07:10
@vas
there was a post a while back that said there is little change after 3 or 4 passes. you wouldn't be able to see the difference from 6 passes to 8 passes(lets say).
there's only so much that can be compressed. do you think the difference btween 1 and 2 passes would be the same between 8 and 9 passes?
stick with 3 passes and use RB-Opt to add a low bitrate matrix and/or some Filters(i don't use filters) ie. Undot.Deen don't think you can get it to look better then that.

BTW you can pause the encoding and then restart it after. your pc doesn't have to be on 12 hours. encode for 6 hours and then resume the next day for another 6.

edit: OvERaCiD23 beat me to it. i'm a little slow at typing. :p