2 issues with DVD Rebuilder

[DdEviL]

Here are the problems:

1- When encoding, at least any of the 3 matrix films, I get a fake chapter right at the beginning of the film... ex: at 00:00:00 I've got chapter 1, one second later I've got chapter two.

2- I keep on getting a Nero error, something like... "Error reallocating files, video... unreferenced you should remove it"

I'm using v0.84 Free and the last Nero version.


The ripping procedure I follow is:

1- Using AnyDVD and IfoEdit's "Movie Only\Strip Streams" I rip the dvd to the harddrive.

2- Use rebuilder to recode the movie.


NOTE:
With previous versions of rebuilder I also sometimes had the nero burning problem.

[jptheripper]

1. that is not the recommended ripping method. rip with dvd decrypter to iso or file mode

2. if there is unreferenced material its the disk's fault, not dvd-rb (dvd-rb doesnt change ifo structure, only pointers, etc..), i.e. the unref'd material was already there

3. as for the chapters.. that is something that should be looked at.

[jdobbs]

@DdEviL

1. What mode are you using to encode? I think that the extra chapter is probably created by IFOEdit... so I'm not sure there is anything I can do about it. But I'll look at it. Have you tried DVD-RB's movie-only mode?

2. Ignore the Nero error. It's just over-checking and the part it is pointing out exists in the original DVD...

[DdEviL]

1- I'm using CCE 2.70 trial, 4 passes.

2- No, the extra chapter isn't IfoEdit's fault. With DVD Decrypter there's the same problem. The funny thing about it is that this "bug" seemed to appear with the matrix triology.

3- You said to ignore the Nero error but I tried encoding the movie with CCE stand-alone and then remuxed it with the audio using DVD-lab PRO and I had no problem when using Nero to burn, i.e. no reallocation error.

4- You said: Have you tried DVD-RB's movie-only mode?Where is that option in 0.84 Free... :confused: that would really simplify things for me because I usualy only rip the main movie.

To finish...a request... Could you put the HC encoder support in the free version? :) I don't consider it to be a pro feature, only another encoder support... and damn good one it is !!!

[lamster]

Originally posted by DdEviL
a request... Could you put the HC encoder support in the free version? :) I don't consider it to be a pro feature, only another encoder support... and damn good one it is !!!
Do a search. I'm pretty sure it works with the free version - just point at HC with the QuEnc path.

[lark]

Originally posted by DdEviL
2- No, the extra chapter isn't IfoEdit's fault. With DVD Decrypter there's the same problem. The funny thing about it is that this "bug" seemed to appear with the matrix triology.

are you saying that rb adds that extra chapter every time or that it's there already when you rip the dvd with decrypter?
if it's there already right after the rip, then it has been authored to the dvd and has nothing to do with rb...

Originally posted by DdEviL
3- You said to ignore the Nero error but I tried encoding the movie with CCE stand-alone and then remuxed it with the audio using DVD-lab PRO and I had no problem when using Nero to burn, i.e. no reallocation error.

so, what's the problem? you can still ignore it. if you reauthor with dvd-lab, the ref to non-existing material is obviously not anymore there.

Originally posted by DdEviL
4- Where is that option in 0.84 Free... :confused: that would really simplify things for me because I usualy only rip the main movie.

that's a pro feature ;-)

regards
t :)

[dragongodz]

3- You said to ignore the Nero error but I tried encoding the movie with CCE stand-alone and then remuxed it with the audio using DVD-lab PRO and I had no problem when using Nero to burn, i.e. no reallocation error.
try this.
convert you DVD-RB output to an iso image with something like imgtool or run it through dvdshrink with no compression but iso output.
then try burning the iso with dvddecrypter.
then try playing it.
any problems ?

[lark]

why should he turn it 1st to iso?
why not just run the files thru shrink?

regards
t :)

[jdobbs]

Just to be clear... I'm not convinced yet that RB adds a chapter. It would be very difficult for it to do so. It would have to modify the original IFO's structure -- which it doesn't. It only adds new offset values into the chapter points that are already there. Does the chapter count actually change if you look at it with IFOEDIT between the original and the DVD-RB output?

As for the unreferenced section and Nero. Hey, I told you the situation -- if you don't want to accept the answer that's up to you. DVD-RB retains the original structure. It doesn't remove unreferenced video.

Movie-only is and always will be only in the Pro version. Same with direct support for HC and HC OPV... is it really that hard to part with a few dollars for what represents a lot of hours of hard work?

[alfixdvd]

@jdobbs
Movie-only is and always will be only in the freeware version. Same with direct support for HC and HC OPV..

Freeware or Pro?

[jdobbs]

Whoops... Pro.

[dragongodz]

why should he turn it 1st to iso?
why not just run the files thru shrink?
please reread what i said. actually here it is with the word you have missed highlighted
output to an iso image with something like imgtool or run it through dvdshrink

so as you can see i was giving 2 options for making the iso NOT saying to use both.

[lark]

ok, sorry, perhaps it's time to get new classes...

regards
t :)

[onesoul]

@ lark

Have you tried burning the files with imgtool burn?

[lark]

don't know, why you are asking me,
but i usually burn using dvddecrypter.

regards
t :)

[writersblock29]

@All

That Nero error seems to have appeared with the latest update package. Like Jdobbs said, it seems to be over-checking things, and ignoring the error still results in a playable disk. ReBuilder isn't doing anything to the files; I've compared the original rip (on which this error has occured -- not all disks cause Nero to complain) to the ReBuilder output, and they always match. I've had this error spring up on some DL burns where Rebuilder wasn't involved at all... just DVD Decypter and Nero were used (because of the cost of the media, these burns are few and far between... but I have burned with DL and had these Nero errors). Funny thing is that the Nero burning engine seems to cause no problems if you're simply using the DVD Shrink interface to burn with.

[jdobbs]

I think Shrink probably removes the unreferenced material. I don't believe in doing that myself -- but if it is truly unreferenced (an important caveat) there is no harm in removing it.

[onesoul]

Eheh, the question was meant to Ddevil :)

I use imgtool burn to burn the output of dvd-rb, never had any problems with that.