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xons
21st April 2005, 20:42
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDnameid=1114&Search=Search&

If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert.

But is this really true?
Can this dvd-player convert NTSC dvd's to a PAL output and can it convert PAL dvd's to a NTSC output?

Cause I got a tv that only plays PAL, and when I hook this dvd-player to it, it only plays in Black and White.

And I've looked everywhere, but I can't find a function to put it to PAL-output.

Does anyone know if it's possible, to put it to PAL-output?
SeeMoreDigital
21st April 2005, 21:41
Originally posted by xons
If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert.I think it will be important to know exactly what's written in the players "user manual" before commenting...


Cheers
gonzalo76
27th April 2005, 17:05
Did you read this post ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93121
Maybe it could help you.
gonzalo76
27th April 2005, 17:26
Originally posted by xons
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers.php?DVDnameid=1114&Search=Search&

If you look in any of these reply's you see that this dvd-player supports Multisystem PAL/NTSC Convert.

But is this really true?
Can this dvd-player convert NTSC dvd's to a PAL output and can it convert PAL dvd's to a NTSC output?

Cause I got a tv that only plays PAL, and when I hook this dvd-player to it, it only plays in Black and White.

And I've looked everywhere, but I can't find a function to put it to PAL-output.

Does anyone know if it's possible, to put it to PAL-output?

Well, I have a DVD Pioneer 373-s that has a "Dual System PAL / NTSC with PAL-NTSC video converter", and it really has it and works perfectly well.
It has 3 mode options: AUTO, PAL and NTSC.
My TV is PAL-N, PAL-M and NTSC.
Recently I was trying to watch a DVD disc that I bought in Italy, actually de DVD was PAL-B R2.
But my TV doesnīt support that format, so I had to choose the option NTSC in my DVD player in order to watch that PAL DVD in color. If I choose for example, the PAL or AUTO mode, I will not be able to watch it in color īcause my TV doesnīt support PAL-B, thatīs why I chose to NTSC. NTSC is the output mode, so my Pioneer dvd player has to "convert" PAL to NTSC.
If the option is PAL or AUTO, I will not be able to watch de PAL DVD in color because my TV does not support PAL-B.
Hope this helped you.
xons
27th April 2005, 20:11
Originally posted by gonzalo76
Well, I have a DVD Pioneer 373-s that has a "Dual System PAL / NTSC with PAL-NTSC video converter", and it really has it and works perfectly well.
It has 3 mode options: AUTO, PAL and NTSC.
My TV is PAL-N, PAL-M and NTSC.
Recently I was trying to watch a DVD disc that I bought in Italy, actually de DVD was PAL-B R2.
But my TV doesnīt support that format, so I had to choose the option NTSC in my DVD player in order to watch that PAL DVD in color. If I choose for example, the PAL or AUTO mode, I will not be able to watch it in color īcause my TV doesnīt support PAL-B, thatīs why I chose to NTSC. NTSC is the output mode, so my Pioneer dvd player has to "convert" PAL to NTSC.
If the option is PAL or AUTO, I will not be able to watch de PAL DVD in color because my TV does not support PAL-B.
Hope this helped you.

well that's the thing, I know for sure that there is no option to choose PAL, NTSC or AUTO. Not in the Service menu or in the regular menu.
xons
27th April 2005, 20:18
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I think it will be important to know exactly what's written in the players "user manual" before commenting...
Cheers

This is what you posted in another thread:
http://img72.exs.cx/img72/8741/coloursysinfo7lc.gif


But I still ask myself why people state that there's a Multisystem PAL/NTSC convert option in it...

or what it exactly means...
gonzalo76
28th April 2005, 00:41
Take a look at this thread:
http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks.php?select=Sony+DVP-NS305

Other hack posted by Pacho, April 30 2003:
Hi all,
I am not an expert but I think that the reason why sometimes R1 DVDs are displayed in B/W is because the Sony DVP-NS305 outputs an NTSC signal, which corresponds to R1, when playing such DVDs. NTSC video signal is displayed in B/W in european TVs that only support PAL.
I have an old but still very good VHS player that can output NTSC or PAL video signals. Guess what, when I connected the output of my DVD player to my VHS player and connected its output to my TV I had the R1 movie in colors.
I think that there is no much we can do if the TV does not support NTSC because the Sony DVP-NS305 does not have an option to output PAL or NTSC. Am I wrong on this?
Hope that you find a trick like I did in order to watch R1 DVDs in colors ...

Pacho
gonzalo76
28th April 2005, 00:52
Anyway, did you try doing exactly what the note says ?

I know the note says that you cannot change the color system of the DVDs, but you can try it anyway.


http://img102.echo.cx/img102/8167/sonydvdmanual7ne.jpg


If you couldn't do it, I think there's nothing much you can do about it, 'cause the TV doesn't support NTSC and apparently the Sony DVP-NS305 does not have an option to change the output PAL or NTSC manually.

Good Luck !
SeeMoreDigital
28th April 2005, 10:15
I'm sorry to say xons, there's nothing more positive I can add to what's already been written.

There might be some tricks you can do like routing your DVD players output video signal through a VCR (as Gonzalo suggested in one of his posts), or even a satellite receiver.

Then there's the "black-box" converter option. But such specialist devices such as this, can often be quite expensive (more so than another DVD player). And they don't always yield good results!


Cheers
zilog jones
1st May 2005, 16:38
xons, are you in Europe and does your TV have a SCART socket? If so, just get a SCART cable and set your DVD player so it outputs in RGB (there might be a switch on the back or something in the menu). Then everything should display in colour, and with a better picture quality too!
SeeMoreDigital
1st May 2005, 17:05
Originally posted by zilog jones
xons, are you in Europe and does your TV have a SCART socket? I assumed he's located somewhere in South America!


Cheers
zilog jones
1st May 2005, 19:34
After some searching, I found in a previous thread:

I live in The Netherlands

So, er, get yourself a SCART lead - it'll solve all your problems! :D
xons
1st May 2005, 20:45
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I assumed he's located somewhere in South America!

Cheers

hhmm.. why would you think that?

I live in the netherlands, like zilog jones found out.

And I'll try zilog jones' solution...
xons
1st May 2005, 21:38
Originally posted by zilog jones
So, er, get yourself a SCART lead - it'll solve all your problems! :D

OH MY GOD!!!!
YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!

I've searched the whole internet for a solution to my problem for nearly a year and a half now.

thank you!!!
:goodpost: :thanks:
SeeMoreDigital
2nd May 2005, 00:16
A scart connection will not necessarily enable xons to view NTSC DVD's on his "PAL only" TV.... but it's well worth a try!

But please make sure you buy a "fully wired" scart lead and not one of those cheapo composite only jobbies!

Although I have to ask you xons.... as a European user, why have you never tried connecting your equipment via scart before?


Cheers
zilog jones
3rd May 2005, 01:39
Well if his TV can take RGB through SCART (which, if it's anyway half-decent it will), colour encoding won't matter at all - it won't be PAL or NTSC - it'll be RGB ^_^

And he said he can see NTSC in black & white - so his TV can take 60Hz video.
SeeMoreDigital
3rd May 2005, 09:24
Originally posted by zilog jones
Well if his TV can take RGB through SCART (which, if it's anyway half-decent it will), colour encoding won't matter at all - it won't be PAL or NTSC - it'll be RGB ^_^

And he said he can see NTSC in black & white - so his TV can take 60Hz video. Very true :)

I wonder how he's getting on with it?


Cheers
xons
4th May 2005, 21:43
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Very true :)

I wonder how he's getting on with it?


Cheers


By this post:
Originally posted by xons
OH MY GOD!!!!
YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!

I've searched the whole internet for a solution to my problem for nearly a year and a half now.

thank you!!!
:goodpost: :thanks:

I thought I made clear that it worked.

But I did connect my equiptment with a scart-cable but I never put it on RGB. So I thougt it was the NTSC-PAL issue, which it apparantly wasn't.