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jdobbs
8th April 2005, 19:13
I've been going back through some of the inexplicable errors and have found that most of the ones related to CCE encoding failures (such as the infamous "MPVA VBF ovf frame #" and the resulting DVD-RB error "ERROR: Encoder failed to create .M2V. Aborted." -- even some of the "Runtime 9" or "0006" errors) seem to be caused by exceptionally low bitrates on very small segments. I've also noted that the latest version of CCE won't allow you to enter a minimum bitrate less than 500Kbs...

So, getting to the point, I recommend that anyone experiencing any of these problems add the following line to his/her REBUILDER.INI file under the [Options] area:

MIN_BITRATE=500

On DVD-RB versions 0.83 and above this will become the default value.

Thanks,
jdobbs

TuRiSOft
8th April 2005, 21:17
Done Thanks!

archaeo
8th April 2005, 21:26
yes, thanks...and I hope I never have to go that low.
hmmm, what does 500kbs look like on an encode? :scared:

jptheripper
8th April 2005, 21:40
actually, on a still, it can be bareable

jdobbs
9th April 2005, 00:44
The 500K is the setting for the minimum of what the AVERAGE bitrate can be for a segment (as well as the setting for the VBR minimum). There are LOTS of instances where 500Kbs is more than enough. Think of blank space or a screen that never changes (but isn't a still).

leopardone
9th April 2005, 11:16
let me try! :thanks:

leopardone
9th April 2005, 17:55
problem fixed! :D
thx a lot

Carpo
11th April 2005, 12:17
when you say default in next version (0.83) do you mean hard coded into the app itself or default written to the ini file ?

cus i have the 0.83 pro rls and that vaule isnt in the ini

Sir Didymus
11th April 2005, 12:25
It is the new default value for this parameters; it means that it is embedded in the application and it is applied when no MIN_BITRATE line is present into the Rebuilder.ini file.

If such a MIN_BITRATE line is present, it overrides this new default.

Hope it is clear...

Cheers,
SD

jdobbs
11th April 2005, 14:15
Exactly.

Carpo
11th April 2005, 15:11
rightie o

nathanaa
12th April 2005, 17:50
I just ran into the "Runtime error 9. Subscript out of range." error for the first time. I'm using v0.74 right now, if I can fix this I figured I'd just wait until 0.83 was public and upgrade to that. I want to make sure I know what to do to apply this fix.

I open the rebuilder.ini file, and under section [Options] (or [CCE Options]?) I write in that line, but where? At the top of the list, the bottom, in alphabetical order? Or doesn't it matter?

Fishman0919
12th April 2005, 18:21
Under [Options]...

[Options]
OneClick=0
ReduceOpt=2
idct7Opt=1
CCE=3
RemoveDTS=1
Skin=Rockas Original
QuEncScene=1
QuEncHQ=1
Completed=407
TargetSectors=2252000
MIN_BITRATE=500
Mode=1
QKVCDOpt=0
QTrellis=0
EncoderMinimized=1
HalfD1=00
Convert_16_9=00
DisableInterlace=00
Reminder=370
SkinVersion=5
HC_Quality=3
MovieOnly=0
LowMatrix=QuEnc Lower Bitrate (QLB)
VLowMatrix=Very Low Bitrate
ExtraMatrix=QuEnc Lower Bitrate (QLB)
DCPrec=3
QuEnc_OPV=0
Backcolor=13680655
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=15
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3
OPV=0
[Paths]
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\dvd-rb\dgdecode\dgdecode.dll
Working=C:\DVD-RB\
Output=C:\DVD-RB\
Source=C:\Documents and Settings\@#$%@#@\My Documents\My Videos\DVD Decrypter
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
CCE250=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder SP\eclcce\EclCCE.exe
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\dvd-rb\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctspt.exe
HC=C:\Program Files\dvd-rb\HCbatch_012a.exe
[Setup]
Language11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguage11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[Audio]
Selected=1

virtual_francky
17th April 2005, 14:16
Sorry but this doesnt fix the problem for me, I use the 0.82.1 free version, and I still get the Run Time Error 9.

I use VobBlanker to reduce the size of Extra and i read in the forum that small size block can cause this problem, so how to avoid this error.

Thx

Cwluc
17th April 2005, 19:32
Sorry the fix isn't working for me either, link to my thread here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93128).

jdobbs
17th April 2005, 20:23
What version are you using? There was an "Error 9" fix that went into v0.85.

virtual_francky
17th April 2005, 20:28
Ok just register and tested with the 0.85 Pro version and I have the same error so it doesnt seems to be what you where thinking about.

The message appears as soon as I launch the encoding with the 1 click method, the same message appears with the 3 click version just after pressing prepare, so I think it surely does have with avisynth.

The program works great with orginal DVD that doesnt have been reduce using VobBlanker.

Will try other thing, if you need some information about my configuration just ask.

I use CCE SP trial Version 2.67.00.27 with EdCCE V1.81.

jdobbs
17th April 2005, 20:48
Could you specify the DVD you are working and exactly what you removed with VobBlanker? I hope it's NTSC R1 so I can get a test copy.

virtual_francky
17th April 2005, 20:55
I'm working with " Sky Captain and the world of tomorrow" NTSC DVD Zone 1.

With VobBlanker I remove every thing except The Menu, VTS_01_0.VOB because if I blank it to I get a message saying Missing VTS_01 file and of course the movie.

I now try to encode using the mode keep only menu and movie and blank extra and other vob in the 0.85 Pro version to see what I get.

virtual_francky
19th April 2005, 00:23
Ok I have tried different settings with the 0.85 Pro edition but I have another error message the infamous:
"Error 0006: DVD-RB has found an inconsistency in source data between the PREPARE and REBUILD phases. Aborting."

I try to encode the same movie without blanking it with VobBlaker but using the Menu and movie only option in DVD-RB

The message appear on the VTS_05_0.vob wich is the first vob of the movie. I reencode the movie using the 2.67 Trial version of CCE with EdCCE 1.81. I ve tried to change Decoder to DGDECODE.dll suggested in the forum but still no chance to get the movie rebuild after the encoding.

Please does anyone has an idea, beacaus I m completly lost, each try ended with this error, I m going to ive a try with another DVD to see what happens.

Thx

Rockas
19th April 2005, 00:32
Is that happening just with that DVD or with all?

How did you installed Rebuilder?

jdobbs
19th April 2005, 00:57
How about trying it withoug any preprocessing?

virtual_francky
19th April 2005, 01:35
Originally posted by Rockas
Is that happening just with that DVD or with all?

How did you installed Rebuilder?

I'm now trying with another DVD to see if I have the same result.

For the installation I have tested two methods, the frits one with Rockas installer and writting over the dvd-rb executable with the 0.85 pro version.
The second one only using the files ins the 0.85 version that come in the zip version.

Thx for the interest.

virtual_francky
19th April 2005, 01:36
Originally posted by Rockas
Is that happening just with that DVD or with all?

How did you installed Rebuilder?

Ok I will give it a try just to see the result.

Thx for the interest

virtual_francky
19th April 2005, 08:11
Originally posted by virtual_francky
I'm now trying with another DVD to see if I have the same result.

For the installation I have tested two methods, the frits one with Rockas installer and writting over the dvd-rb executable with the 0.85 pro version.
The second one only using the files ins the 0.85 version that come in the zip version.

Thx for the interest.

Ok I tried with another DVD during the night with the same option ( menu and movie only + CCE encoding ) and I had a "buffer overflow error 0004" during the rebuilding process on the VTS_7 Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1 wich is the VTS movie

Here is the rebuilder log :

[02:15:47] One Click encoding activated...
-----------------
[02:15:48] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE SP ECLCCE encoder selected.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- "Movie and Menus Only" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 62_030 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 4_865 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 61_115 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5_620 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 61_967 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 4_865 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 2_347_686 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 182_050 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_08: 1_033_826 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 88_065 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 49,6%
- Overall Bitrate : 2_173Kbs
- Space for Video : 3_028_848KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 30,6%
- Blanking all EXTRA Segments
-- Feature before/after: 3_526 / 3_526 Kbs
[02:20:58] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 5 minutes.
[02:20:58] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_07 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_08 segment 8
[06:14:43] Phase II ENCODING completed in 234 minutes.
[06:14:43] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_05
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 2
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_05_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_07
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1

OK now I will try Capitain Sky movie without preprossing as requested by jdobbs

virtual_francky
19th April 2005, 08:17
Originally posted by virtual_francky
Ok I tried with another DVD

.........

OK now I will try Capitain Sky movie without preprossing as requested by jdobbs

Just one stupid thing, but when the "Movie and Menus Only" mode is enabled, Steal Space from Extras option is enable too ( 1st line of my log ) an d when I look in my VIDEO_TS folder the other VTS_X vob that dont belong to the movie are not nul, maybe thaht could explain some crash, because you blank something that you encode with a very low bitrate after, I only just see this now ;)
I may be very stupid sometimes lol

OK I just will try what jdobbs asks me, a backup without preprocessing.

virtual_francky
19th April 2005, 20:20
OK so here are the results of my test :

1/ Capitain Sky
The full backup went ok, I didnt choose any preprocessing

2/ Captain Sky or any other DVD
When I choose the "Movie an Menus only", any DVD I try to backup, I get the "buffer overflow error 0004" message. If I go in to the VIDEO_TS folder to see the different vob, some vob are blanked and some dont ( maybe the menu, but 2 different series of vob for 1 menu seems stange but possible ), and the first vob of the movie is present and 360 Mo sized, the 2nd is the one who crash DVD-RB is 150 Mo.
So it seems that the rebuild phase crash the program but I dont have any clue why.

Here s th log for more info :

[Status]
mode=1
Original_Size=3861486
Excluded_Audio_Sub_Size=86691
MainVTS=07
VTS_01_SIZE=59183
VTS_02_SIZE=57976
VTS_05_SIZE=59183
VTS_07_SIZE=1893758
VTS_08_SIZE=980894
Progress=2
CCEType=3
Encode_Progress=42
[V0100001]
Last_Sector=23689
[V01000000001001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1835
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=23551
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=6610624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=927
Video_Sectors=11141
Action=1
[V01000100001002]
SCR=6603131,433
PTS=6610624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=23551
Last_Sector=23689
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=6754624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17
Video_Sectors=58
Action=1
[V0100002]
Last_Sector=62030
[V01000200002001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2950
First_Sector=23689
Last_Sector=61903
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=10624624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=1482
Video_Sectors=18089
Action=1
[V01000300002002]
SCR=10617131,433
PTS=10624624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=61903
Last_Sector=62030
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=10768624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=19
Video_Sectors=51
Action=1
[V0200001]
Last_Sector=8128
[V02000000001001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4478,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1010
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=8069
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=3640478,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=481
Video_Sectors=3720
Action=1
[V02000100001002]
SCR=3630251,717
PTS=3640478,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=8069
Last_Sector=8128
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=3784478,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17
Video_Sectors=19
Action=1
[V0200002]
Last_Sector=61115
[V02000200002001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=4530
First_Sector=8128
Last_Sector=60718
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=16312624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=2158
Video_Sectors=24816
Action=1
[V02000300002002]
SCR=16305131,433
PTS=16312624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=60718
Last_Sector=61115
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=16456624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=19
Video_Sectors=185
Action=1
[V0500001]
Last_Sector=23662
[V05000000001001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1835
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=23524
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=6610624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=900
Video_Sectors=11141
Action=1
[V05000100001002]
SCR=6603131,433
PTS=6610624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=23524
Last_Sector=23662
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=6754624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17
Video_Sectors=58
Action=1
[V0500002]
Last_Sector=61967
[V05000200002001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2950
First_Sector=23662
Last_Sector=61840
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=10624624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=1446
Video_Sectors=18089
Action=1
[V05000300002002]
SCR=10617131,433
PTS=10624624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=61840
Last_Sector=61967
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=10768624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=19
Video_Sectors=51
Action=1
[V0700001]
Last_Sector=2347686
[V07000000001001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4478,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=7768
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=108914
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=27969278,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=14957
Video_Sectors=44427
[V07000100001002]
SCR=27947717,267
PTS=27969278,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=7071
First_Sector=108914
Last_Sector=193451
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=53424878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=13806
Video_Sectors=33105
[V07000200001003]
SCR=53417035,783
PTS=53424878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=7248
First_Sector=193451
Last_Sector=281735
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=79517678,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=14169
Video_Sectors=34735
[V07000300001004]
SCR=79504455,417
PTS=79517678,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=6142
First_Sector=281735
Last_Sector=364652
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=101628878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=11865
Video_Sectors=33522
[V07000400001005]
SCR=101620158,083
PTS=101628878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=6080
First_Sector=364652
Last_Sector=435655
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=123516878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=11729
Video_Sectors=27700
[V07000500001006]
SCR=123507719,233
PTS=123516878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=11349
First_Sector=435655
Last_Sector=573972
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=164373278,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=22212
Video_Sectors=54414
[V07000600001007]
SCR=164362510,117
PTS=164373278,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=9088
First_Sector=573972
Last_Sector=694507
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=197090078,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17831
Video_Sectors=48398
[V07000700001008]
SCR=197077058,783
PTS=197090078,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=3536
First_Sector=694507
Last_Sector=735885
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=209819678,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=6923
Video_Sectors=16101
[V07000800001009]
SCR=209812185,433
PTS=209819678,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=21611
First_Sector=735885
Last_Sector=990240
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=287619278,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=42073
Video_Sectors=99249
[V07000900001010]
SCR=287611582,067
PTS=287619278,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=8996
First_Sector=990240
Last_Sector=1102615
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=320004878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17340
Video_Sectors=44621
[V07001000001011]
SCR=319995134,100
PTS=320004878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=12968
First_Sector=1102615
Last_Sector=1283056
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=366689678,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=24868
Video_Sectors=73532
[V07001100001012]
SCR=366676170,000
PTS=366689678,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=10952
First_Sector=1283056
Last_Sector=1455990
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=406116878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=21091
Video_Sectors=72241
[V07001200001013]
SCR=406106841,533
PTS=406116878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2403
First_Sector=1455990
Last_Sector=1488002
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=414767678,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=4625
Video_Sectors=12911
[V07001300001014]
SCR=414753927,367
PTS=414767678,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=20208
First_Sector=1488002
Last_Sector=1746245
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=487516478,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=39168
Video_Sectors=103006
[V07001400001015]
SCR=487505417,550
PTS=487516478,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=8184
First_Sector=1746245
Last_Sector=1843690
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=516978878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=15832
Video_Sectors=38191
[V07001500001016]
SCR=516969134,100
PTS=516978878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=5703
First_Sector=1843690
Last_Sector=1919150
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=537509678,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=11048
Video_Sectors=30352
[V07001600001017]
SCR=537502185,433
PTS=537509678,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=6082
First_Sector=1919150
Last_Sector=1995551
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=559404878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=11627
Video_Sectors=30427
[V07001700001018]
SCR=559396596,933
PTS=559404878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=9795
First_Sector=1995551
Last_Sector=2107074
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=594666878,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=18784
Video_Sectors=43260
[V07001800001019]
SCR=594659385,433
PTS=594666878,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=4772
First_Sector=2107074
Last_Sector=2175319
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=611846078,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=9109
Video_Sectors=27995
[V07001900001020]
SCR=611837211,800
PTS=611846078,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2675
First_Sector=2175319
Last_Sector=2208175
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=621476078,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=5097
Video_Sectors=13020
[V07002000001021]
SCR=621468585,433
PTS=621476078,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=9419
First_Sector=2208175
Last_Sector=2347686
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=655384478,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17944
Video_Sectors=57656
[V0800001]
Last_Sector=862550
[V08000000001001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4478,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=60012
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=704878
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=216047678,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=31148
Video_Sectors=331537
Action=1
[V08000100001001]
SCR=216039835,783
PTS=216047678,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=13373
First_Sector=704878
Last_Sector=862277
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=264190478,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=6889
Video_Sectors=74066
Action=1
[V08000200001002]
SCR=264182985,433
PTS=264190478,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=862277
Last_Sector=862550
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=264334478,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17
Video_Sectors=125
Action=1
[V0800002]
Last_Sector=973745
[V08000300002001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=9440
First_Sector=862550
Last_Sector=973436
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=33988624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=4917
Video_Sectors=52148
Action=1
[V08000400002002]
SCR=33981131,433
PTS=33988624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=973436
Last_Sector=973745
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=34132624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17
Video_Sectors=143
Action=1
[V0800003]
Last_Sector=1009141
[V08000500003001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2970
First_Sector=973745
Last_Sector=1009030
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=10696624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=1514
Video_Sectors=16621
Action=1
[V08000600003002]
SCR=10689131,433
PTS=10696624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=1009030
Last_Sector=1009141
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=10840624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=17
Video_Sectors=45
Action=1
[V0800004]
Last_Sector=1033826
[V08000700004001]
SCR=,000
PTS=4624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2110
First_Sector=1009141
Last_Sector=1033478
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=7600624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=1070
Video_Sectors=11448
Action=1
[V08000800004002]
SCR=7593131,433
PTS=7600624,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=40
First_Sector=1033478
Last_Sector=1033826
Reduction=49,6
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=7744624,000
Audio_Sub_Sectors=19
Video_Sectors=161
Action=1


Thx for the help you can bring me.

jdobbs
19th April 2005, 21:53
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Rockas
19th April 2005, 22:29
All I can say is that on the last few days I've made 5 backups using
movie + menus without any problems... the movies were:

Collateral
Good will hunting
Dead man walking
The last emperor
The whole ten yards

...well had a little glitch with the subtitles of Collateral (as I told you :))

Cwluc
20th April 2005, 00:30
I was going to say Spanglish went well, but I tried to watch the rebuild and all it came out with was a re-encode of a black screen for 2 hours. I wonder what is up?

Fishman0919
20th April 2005, 00:46
Spanglish is a diiferent story.

How did you rip Spanglish??

Spanglish has the same sony protection as 'The Forgotten'

If you rip Spanglish with DVD Decrypter and have DVD43 v3.5.2 on in the background...you shouldn't have any problems.

I did it both ways and the only way that worked was with DVD43.

Link: http://www.dvd43.com/

jdobbs
20th April 2005, 02:44
I don't get why there is concern. DVD will do Spanglish and the Forgotten straight-up with no problems.... I've done them. It's easy if you just let it do it -- the problems start when you try to "help" it.

I ripped both of those movies to an ISO, mounted it with Daemon Tools, ran it -- and watched it...

virtual_francky
20th April 2005, 14:27
I'm actually testing anorther DVD of mine ( Back to the future ) wich has a lot of extra on 1 disc. I ve lauch the backup with Menu and Movie only option selected.

I will have the answer later this afternoon when I will be back from my office.

But any one experience my problem; jdobbs do you have any clue of what might be the problem ? . In fact letting the prog do he job all by itself cause no problem at all, but if I try to blanked some vob in internal or external using Vobblanker I have 2 differents messages

The error 0004 buffer overflow with the internal process and the error 0009 difference betwin prepare and rebuild phase

But the crash always occure during the rebuild process.

jdobbs
20th April 2005, 14:57
I'll have to look at it, but one of the interesting things about those DVDs is that in the IFOs they have "cell" pointers that point to areas smaller than a cell (a start/end sector reference within a longer true cell). In the original the pseudo cells are a part of the PGC and represent a short (a second or two) blank period. A typically copying program might then see the reference to the VOBID and CELLID and assume the IFO's "cell" reference was talking about that cell. It then would reference the entire cell at during playback -- and have a 15 second (or more) annoying blank period at the start.

DVD-RB recognizes the pseudo cells and reproduces them in the output. My guess is that trying to blank the cell (segment) is making it impossible for DVD-RB to reproduce the pseudo cells. I'll have to look and see if that is correct.

virtual_francky
20th April 2005, 15:59
Originally posted by jdobbs
I'll have to look at it, but one of the interesting things about those DVDs is that in the IFOs they have "cell" pointers that point to areas smaller than a cell (a start/end sector reference within a longer true cell). In the original the pseudo cells are a part of the PGC and represent a short (a second or two) blank period. A typically copying program might then see the reference to the VOBID and CELLID and assume the IFO's "cell" reference was talking about that cell. It then would reference the entire cell at during playback -- and have a 15 second (or more) annoying blank period at the start.

DVD-RB recognizes the pseudo cells and reproduces them in the output. My guess is that trying to blank the cell (segment) is making it impossible for DVD-RB to reproduce the pseudo cells. I'll have to look and see if that is correct.

Ok you may have pointed something, but I don't understand why the crash occures during the rebuild phase and on the movie's VTS files, the blanked vts are correctly rebuild as I found them in the output directory of the backup. But what you are pointing may be a problem because no crash occures when no preprocessing option is enabled.

Thx for trying to solve this problem :)

jdobbs
20th April 2005, 16:38
I haven't checked it out yet -- but the new sector offsets are collected during rebuild so the IFO can be updated. The pseudo sectors are always part of the movie VTS... are you saying you aren't blanking that segment out?

Cwluc
20th April 2005, 18:07
With Spanglish everything is fine on the rip from the disc, until I run it through rebuilder. Preprocessing or not, plays off the HDD fine then I get into trouble after rebuild. I am not sure why I haven't seen this before. The disc is ripped properly I ran it with 0.85 and went back to 0.841. It is confusing, some of these new discs, problematic.

Just so we are clear if I do any preprocessing it's always only vobblanker and shrink (no compression) to remove audio tracks and the layer break. Nothing else, I stopped doing menuedit before because that sometimes created needless issues.

jdobbs
20th April 2005, 18:48
I ran Spanglish with no problems. Something is different...

virtual_francky
20th April 2005, 19:00
Ok my test with "Back to the Future" R2 was successfull, I have a backup of my DVD and the extra are blanked.

So I can tell that the problem with the others 2 DVDs are not due to my configuration but a DVD structure one.

I'm sorry but I don't understand your final question in your last post. All I can say is that The crash occurs on these DVD when I remove some languages and subtitles, and enable the "Menu and movie only" option.

Maybe if you explain me what you want to know, i'll try yo answer.

genericuser
20th April 2005, 21:22
Perhaps the difference is how Spanglish gets ripped to the HD before DVD-RB sees it. If I remember correctly from some other threads, dvd decrypter needs to have the "check structure" protection boxes clicked in order to get it onto the HD in the correct format.

When I read that I checked my dvd decrypter and the box was not checked by default.

Is it possible that jdobbs is ripping in one manner and Cwluc is ripping in another?

Just a thought...

Cwluc
20th April 2005, 21:34
DVD Decrypter, 3.5.4.0, with the "Check For Structure Protection" checked, if I need to re-rip it with something else I am game, reverted to my HBO nightmare with a fresh install of everything...here is hoping.

jdobbs, I only installed 2.50 and it will run that properly in 0.85, is it me or can I only have one version of CCE installed at a time to get the correct version to CCE to run? Normally I had two and could select between the two of them.

jdobbs
20th April 2005, 22:08
Originally posted by virtual_francky
Ok my test with "Back to the Future" R2 was successfull, I have a backup of my DVD and the extra are blanked.

So I can tell that the problem with the others 2 DVDs are not due to my configuration but a DVD structure one.

I'm sorry but I don't understand your final question in your last post. All I can say is that The crash occurs on these DVD when I remove some languages and subtitles, and enable the "Menu and movie only" option.

Maybe if you explain me what you want to know, i'll try yo answer. Do you remove them with DVD-RB or some other package?

jdobbs
20th April 2005, 22:09
Originally posted by Cwluc
DVD Decrypter, 3.5.4.0, with the "Check For Structure Protection" checked, if I need to re-rip it with something else I am game, reverted to my HBO nightmare with a fresh install of everything...here is hoping.

jdobbs, I only installed 2.50 and it will run that properly in 0.85, is it me or can I only have one version of CCE installed at a time to get the correct version to CCE to run? Normally I had two and could select between the two of them. I have three versions of SP and one of Basic running.

virtual_francky
20th April 2005, 22:23
Originally posted by jdobbs
Do you remove them with DVD-RB or some other package?

I did remove them with DVD-RB, that s why I think it's not a configuration problem but a dvd structure one .

Cwluc
21st April 2005, 01:47
Originally posted by jdobbs
I have three versions of SP and one of Basic running.

OK so I need to check my setup, now can it really be how I ripping the discs, I don't normally have problems, many successful rebuilds. Also all of them play fine off the HDD without any changes.

Duffin444
21st April 2005, 10:06
I am also having a problem with Spanglish. I ripped it with Decrypter 3.5.4.0 in file mode with "check for structure protection" enabled and nothing to "help" it. The ripped movie plays fine, menus and all. When I get into problems is when I try and run it through Rebuilder. I set everything up as normal (stock CCE 4 pass) using Rebuilder 0.84 Pro. The encode completes and Rebuilder throws a buffer overflow error #0004 and after I click ok quits. This has really been bugging me, maybe somebody can offer some help.

Thanks,
Duffin

jdobbs
21st April 2005, 13:11
That buffer overflow error is usually an indicator that the source is corrupt in some way. The null packets that are created by DVD Decrypter's structure protection check are passed over in that routine.

In version 0.86 I've added code that will increase the buffer size up to a higher limit when needed because I found one DVD that legitimately needed more buffer space (it wasn't the case with Spanglish NTSC R1).

But just a warning: I have to put a limit somewhere, or a corrupt source will eventually cause an out-of-memory error and might crash your computer completely.

nathanaa
24th April 2005, 04:24
Ok, I seem to have suddenly run into this problem again. I thought it had been resolved last week, but apparently I was wrong.

I keep getting the Error 0006 and 9 error messages. I just tried to back up Battlestar Galactica 1978 (6 discs), and the Vicar of Dibley (1 disc). All are NTFS R1 discs. One of the BG discs would not process, and the Vicar won't process. I have checked, and I have added that line into the Rebuilder.ini file (see the file contents below). I ripped with Decryptor in file mode (as I always do), and have done no preprocessing of any kind. My RB settings are to do a full disc rebuild with no space taken away from extras or anything else (I don't have any of those options checked).

Versions:
DVDDecrypter v3.5.2.0
DVDRebuilder v.82
CCE SP 2.50
(other DVDRB settings and components from the Rockas Installer)

Here's the .ini file:
[Options]
OneClick=1
HalfExtras=0
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
MIN_BITRATE=500
Mode=1
QuEncHQ=0
QuEncScene=0
EncoderMinimized=0
RemoveDTS=0
NoWarn=1
ReduceOpt=0
Skin=Windows Standard
AudioDub=1
Completed=41
Backcolor=8454016
QSinglePass=1
CCE=2
SkinVersion=3
HalfD1=0000
Convert_16_9=0000
DisableInterlace=0000
Reminder=40
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\DVD Rebuilder\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Program Files\DVD Rebuilder\ReJig\ReJig.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\DVD Rebuilder\Decomb521.dll
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\DVD Rebuilder\EclPro\EclPro.exe
Source=G:\VICAR_OF_DIBLEY_D3\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\
Output=G:\RB VICAR OF DIBLEY S3\
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\Decoders\NEWDGDecode.dll
CCE250=C:\Program Files\DVD Rebuilder\CCE SP 2.50\EclCCE.exe
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\CCE Basic\cct2.exe
[Audio]
Selected=11
[CCEOptions]
OPV=1
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
[Setup]
Language11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguage11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

I hope someone can help figure out what the problem is here, and I hope I provided the necessary info.

Rockas
24th April 2005, 11:07
Two things that you must correct.

First of all you say that you are using CCE 2.50 but that's not the version you have selected under CCE Options (Menu Options)

Second... you are not using the last version os DVD Decrypter.

nathanaa
24th April 2005, 23:00
Well, I bought the CCE Basic (or whatever it was, about $60), and followed all the installation instructions. On my DVDRB menu bar I have "CCE MOde" selected. So, perhaps I am wrong as to which one I am using. Is Basic different than 2.50? I suppose it is and I just looked at the wrong file and incorrectly told you what I was using.

As for the Decryptor version, why would it work properly on 9 out of 10 discs in a set but not on one of them (#8 of 10, to be specific)?

Anyway, so what you are suggesting is I get the latest Decryptor and re-rip that disc, then try running it through DVDRB again?

Rockas
24th April 2005, 23:25
First you must decide what version you are using :D
On menu Mode you must select CCE (at this point you are correct).
But on under Options Menu you have CCE Options sub-menu with the following options:

CCE Basic (choose it if you are using CCE Basic - any versions)
CCE SP (choose this if you're using 2.66 or 2.67 retail or Trial or 2.70 Retail)
CCE SP Trial (Choose this if you are using CCE 2.70 Trial)
CCE SP (2.50) (Choose this if you are using CCE 2.50)
Anyway, so what you are suggesting is I get the latest Decryptor and re-rip that disc, then try running it through DVDRB again?
yes :D

nathanaa
25th April 2005, 00:03
On the menu Mode I have selected CCE. Under the Options Menu/CCE Options, I have CCE Basic selected (that *is* what I have, and what I have been using - I just had to dig around a bit to remind myself).

I also downloaded DVDDecrypter 3.5.4.0 and installed it, ripped the problem BG 1978 disc again, and have already started DVDRB working on it again. Hopefully it will be done in about 5 hours. It always seemed to fail at the reencode phase (I think - I use the 1 Click method, so I'm never sure). Thanks for the tips.

winny
25th April 2005, 00:10
The only time I had the error #4 was with a dodgy source disk. DVDD v3.5.4.0 identified protected sectors and took care of them, then DVD-RB choked during the rebuild.

Out of interest I used ifoedit on the original ripped disk and did a "Get vts sectors". It identified a few discrepancies which it corrected and saved.

I reran the output through DVD-RB and it worked flawlessly.

I posted about this on the DVDD forum and was told to ignore the ifoedit check, so I thought it was something I'd done wrong.

If you get a chance could you check your source and let me know if ifoedit reports the same for you?

Good luck.

nathanaa
25th April 2005, 01:44
Originally posted by winny
The only time I had the error #4 was with a dodgy source disk. DVDD v3.5.4.0 identified protected sectors and took care of them, then DVD-RB choked during the rebuild.

Out of interest I used ifoedit on the original ripped disk and did a "Get vts sectors". It identified a few discrepancies which it corrected and saved.

I reran the output through DVD-RB and it worked flawlessly.

I posted about this on the DVDD forum and was told to ignore the ifoedit check, so I thought it was something I'd done wrong.

If you get a chance could you check your source and let me know if ifoedit reports the same for you?

Good luck.

I'm not sure if this was meant for me or not. If it was, I've never used IfoEdit, so I don't know exactly what you are talking about, sorry. If you want to explain more clearly, maybe in a PM, I'd be cool trying to help figure out if my problem was the same as yours.

nathanaa
25th April 2005, 05:24
Ok, I just had DVDRB crash again, in the same spot on the same DVD. I've tried this now about 7 times, with various settings. This time I got the "Runtime Error 6 Overflow" message. I really hope someone can help me figure out what is wrong here.

Here is the rebuilder.log file, I hope it has the info necessary to troubleshoot this problem:

[16:36:36] One Click encoding activated...
-----------------
[16:36:38] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 3,020,362 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 210,863 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 546,614 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 51,162 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 57.9%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,838Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,786,260KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,113/500/2,838 Kbs
[16:50:49] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 14 minutes.
[16:50:50] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 21
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 22
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 23
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 24
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 25
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 26
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 27
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 28
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 29
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 30
[21:53:29] Phase II ENCODING completed in 303 minutes.
[21:53:29] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2

I'm not sure if I should post the rebuilder.inf contents here too, they are REALLY long. If anyone wants them, I'll post 'em.

Please, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rockas
25th April 2005, 13:02
Have you tried to use the "Special Error Processing" option?

If you didn't, select it under Options Menu and try to Rebuild... just don't forget to un-check it either you are succeed or not :D

winny
25th April 2005, 15:10
@nathanaa - ive sent you a pm about ifoedit. If it helps please reply in here for the gurus to consider.

If it finds no errors in the source, I apologise in advance for the slight detour. :)

Best wishes,
Winny

nathanaa
25th April 2005, 19:30
No, I don't believe I have tried it with the "Special Error Processing" option selected, I guess I'll give that a try now. I'll report back tonight on how it went.

nathanaa
26th April 2005, 03:49
Well, I had another failure, same error 6 overflow one, even after trying it with the Special Error Processing option selected.

I'm now trying it a completely different way than I normally do, I am re-ripping the disc with Decrypter as an .iso file, then I'll try to process with DVDRB. I've never done it before, because I've never needed to - the file method always worked fine.

I really wish I knew what that error was all about, I mean, *why* do I keep getting the error - what is going wrong?

Any other suggestions greatly appreciated, please and thanks!

SpazzHH
26th April 2005, 04:55
Does this error always occur at VTS_1, segment 1? How many frames are in that segment? If the error is happening in exactly the same spot every single time, get us more info on the segment. Perhaps that segment has been corrupted in some way.

nathanaa
26th April 2005, 05:56
It always happens at the same spot, from what I can tell. I'm not sure how to determine exactly where it is every single time it fails. I posted the info above from one of the last attempts, and to my untrained eyes it seems to be the same as what I just got on my most recent attempt.

As for how many frames are in that segment, I don't know how to determine that - can you give me directions on how to find that out?

If that segment was corrupted it would have to be in the original I should think. I have ripped that disc now about 10 times, and am still having the same problem. As I mentioned, I ripped it as an .iso this time (wow, that took a LOT less time than file mode usually takes) and am currently processing it, so we'll see if it works this time. I wish I know how to start the process again from where it failed the last time, so I didn't have to keep starting from scratch each time. Is there a way to do that?

pg55555
26th April 2005, 20:58
@nathanaa
In particular I'm now a bit confused with your situation (all that issue with CCE version, etc.), so please forgive me if I ask for information you have already submitted:)

First, from your original post we are now on version 0.84 Free (you were using 0.82). did you updated?, if no, please do and repeat try again.
Second: If the problem persists, Post your current rebuilder.ini file (the one you use with the last RB version).Indicate what is the error message RB is giving
Please state what is the version of CCE you are using. If you are using CCE Basic, please state what version of CCE Basic you are using
Third: If the problem happens again in the Rebuild step, at the same spot ("- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2")please post the ECL project for that cell.
How to do it? Well, in your \D2VAVS directory there would be a file named "item.ecl". Please look at it: It contains the ECL project for the last cell encoded. Now look at the file rebuilder.ecl: it contains the ECL projects for all the cells: the structure of the item.ecl file gets repeated again and again, although the parameters do change (at the end of the rebuilder.ecl file it should be the ECL project of the last cell, in efect, the same content as in item.ecl). Now look in rebuilder.ini for the ECL project for the second cell and post it.

nathanaa
27th April 2005, 05:51
<God that's annoying, I'm writing a reply to a post and I keep getting logged off by the board. I had to log on twice to be able to post this message. Grrrr.....anyway...>

I just tried to process that Battlestar Galactica 1978 disc again, and no go (AGAIN). Before I tried this last time, just to see what would happen, I tried to use DVDShrink on that particular disc, and it worked fine. However, it is more than 50% compressed, so I'm not happy about what the result might look like. But, I did find out at least that *something* would work on it.

Originally posted by pg55555
First, from your original post we are now on version 0.84 Free (you were using 0.82). did you updated?, if no, please do and repeat try again.

Ok, I was using 0.82, but I upgraded to 0.84, then repeated after the DVDShrink test run. As I mention above, DVDRB did not finish it again.


Second: If the problem persists, Post your current rebuilder.ini file (the one you use with the last RB version).Indicate what is the error message RB is giving

The exact error message is the same as the last half dozen times - I had gotten different ones the first few times I tried to rebuild this disc, but about 7-9 times now it has been the same one:

"Runtime error '6'. Overflow."

Here is my current rebuilder.ini file from this attempt with 0.84:

[16:31:33] One Click encoding activated...
-----------------
[16:31:33] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 3,020,362 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 210,863 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 546,614 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 51,162 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 57.9%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,838Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,786,260KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,113/500/2,838 Kbs
[16:45:36] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 14 minutes.
[16:45:36] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 21
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 22
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 23
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 24
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 25
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 26
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 27
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 28
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 29
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 30
[21:51:06] Phase II ENCODING completed in 306 minutes.
[21:51:06] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2



Please state what is the version of CCE you are using. If you are using CCE Basic, please state what version of CCE Basic you are using


In the Help\About of my CCE, it tells me I am using CCE Basic v2.69.01.10.


Third: If the problem happens again in the Rebuild step, at the same spot ("- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2")please post the ECL project for that cell.

Ok, I got a bit confused by your directions, although they seemed to be fairly straightforward. So, here is the item.ecl file contents:

; Cinema Craft Encoder Basic -- Encoder Control List
; Created by DVD Rebuilder

[item]
title=V02003000003001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V02003000003001.vaf
aud_file=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V02003000003001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=6000
vbr_brate_min=500
vbr_brate_max=7800
seq_endcode=1
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
adjust_q_matrix=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=5
gop_hdr=15
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
offset_line=0
vid_file=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V02003000003001.m2v
video_type=8
tc_offset=0
remove_vaf=0
pict_type=0
pict_complexity=2
filter_off=1
filter_on=0
pict_qchar=24
name=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V02003000003001.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=1
encode_first=0
encode_last=1

Ok, I think this is the section of the rebuilder.ini file that you were telling me to post:

[Status]
mode=1
Original_Size=3619789
Excluded_Audio_Sub_Size=9419
VTS_01_SIZE=2744225
VTS_02_SIZE=522875
Progress=2
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=47
[V0100001]
Last_Sector=2000998
[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=803
First_Sector=0
Last_Sector=10214
Reduction=57.9
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=3013242.000
Video_Sectors=5317
[V01000100001002]
SCR=2986483.500
PTS=3013242.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=19276
First_Sector=10214
Last_Sector=279393
Reduction=57.9
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=75348004.000
Video_Sectors=141383

Well, I hope that provides enough information to figure out what the problem is. I don't know if I'm just doing something wrong or if there is more to it. Thanks for any/all help or advice.

Rockas
27th April 2005, 13:48
Seems like you'll have to wait for version 0.86... it has corrected that error. Read its changelog.

pg55555
27th April 2005, 16:56
@ nathanaa

You can wait for the release of the free 0.86 as Rocaks suggested, to see if it resolves your problem

Or we can continue to see if it is an installation / setup problem.

Regarding your last post, it seems you got a little confused when answering my suggestions / instructions:

- I asked to post the content of rebuilder.ini file but you posted the log.. Here I made a mistake, as this file it is not in the \D2VAVS directory, but in the same folder where it is the RB executable (rebuilder.exe).
- You posted the content of the item.ecl file. I was just intructing you to look at it to understan my request about what part of the rebuilder.ecl file I want you to post: The rebuilder.ecl file contains the intructions for CCE to encode, one set of instructions instructions for each segment. When RB wants to encode a certain segment, it copies the instructions for that segment from rebuilder.ecl into item.ecl, and then loads item.ecl into CCE for it to encode. Taht is the reason why item.ecl contains the instructions for the last segment (V02003000003001). If you look at rebuilder.ecl you'll notice the last part is equal to item.ecl.
What I wanted you to post was the part of the rebuilder.ecl file which contains the instructions for the segment is giving problems. It should be the second segment in rebuilder.ecl and the name should be V010001000001002
- Finally, you posted the content of the rebuilder.inf file, no what I've asked, but useful anyway

nathanaa
28th April 2005, 03:05
Originally posted by pg55555
@ nathanaa

You can wait for the release of the free 0.86 as Rocaks suggested, to see if it resolves your problem

Well, I'm thinking it is a problem with the source disc(s). I mean, I'm no expert, which is why I'm asking for help from you folks, it just seems like it is a couple discs in particular that are giving me fits. After I made the last BG disc attempt, I did Mork & Mindy, just to see if it would work. No problems, all four discs went through batch mode without a single hitch, same settings as what I've been using for the BG disc that won't process. BUT - in case it is not, I'd still like to know for sure, so here we go.



Or we can continue to see if it is an installation / setup problem.

Sounds good to me.


Regarding your last post, it seems you got a little confused when answering my suggestions / instructions:

- I asked to post the content of rebuilder.ini file but you posted the log.. Here I made a mistake, as this file it is not in the \D2VAVS directory, but in the same folder where it is the RB executable (rebuilder.exe).

Unfortunately, as I mentioned, after I tried the BG disc again, I ran the Mork & Mindy through DVDRB, so I presume the file was overwritten. That computer is doing something else right now, otherwise I would check. If it would NOT have been overwritten, let me know and I'll post it.


What I wanted you to post was the part of the rebuilder.ecl file which contains the instructions for the segment is giving problems. It should be the second segment in rebuilder.ecl and the name should be V010001000001002

Ok - hopefully this is it then:

; Cinema Craft Encoder Basic -- Encoder Control List
; Created by DVD Rebuilder

<snippage>

[item]
title=V01000100001002
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100001002.vaf
aud_file=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100001002.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=2881
vbr_brate_min=500
vbr_brate_max=8552
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
adjust_q_matrix=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=1
alternate_scan=0
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
offset_line=0
vid_file=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100001002.m2v
video_type=8
tc_offset=0
remove_vaf=0
pict_type=0
pict_complexity=2
filter_off=1
filter_on=0
pict_qchar=24
name=C:\TEMP DVDRB DIR B - WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100001002.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=19276
encode_first=0
encode_last=19276

Well, let me know if I got the proper info this time - thanks for all the help folks, please keep it coming!

pg55555
28th April 2005, 15:14
@nathanaa

The fact that you were able of doing Mork & Mindy seems to indicate your setup is OK. That was what I wanted to check in the rebuilder.ini, so now it is not needed.

And this time you post the requested section of the rebulder.ecl. I wanted to check the lenght of the segment not to be short. It is not, it is 19276 frames long.

So I'm now clueless:( . I agree with you probably it is a problem with BG, and I hope that, as Rockas indicated, the 0.86 Free version will be able to cope with it..

nathanaa
29th April 2005, 01:17
Well, thanks for the assistance anyways. I'll give 0.86free a try when it comes out, and hopefully that will do it for me. I got all the others backed up, but not this one to my satisfaction.

As I said, thanks all!