Failed burns. DVD Shrink, DVDDecrypter, or ARcoSS?

[downsouth]

I just started backing up my movies and there are a few movies I am having difficulty with. There are others where I know I shouldn't have difficulty and after a few attempts with all the same equpiment it backs up fine. I have read around and found that some of them are protected with accross(sp?) anyway...

I have a Plextor 716A dvd burner
I use dvd decrypter(just updated last night), dvd43, PcgEdit, and dvd shrink
My media Khypermedia dvd+r

movies I have had difficulty with...
RE2 (i have read about this but still don't quite follow how to get around the accross), AVP, employee of the month, and I heart huckabees just to name a few.
everything says it was completed fine, but then i ge a blank disc error in all of my dvd players...inlcuding the one in my computer.

I did my blue heaven and after my second try I was able to get it to work.

are certian settings supposed to be on? am I missing key software? is there other info you need? any help would be appreciated.

[ammck55]

Welcome to the Forum:

DVD Shrink and DVDDecrypter are all that you need for straight backups, and that's what I'll address, here.

Rip your disc in DVDDecrypter in either File or ISO mode, then pull the ripped files up in Shrink and either do a "Full Disc", or "Re-author" copy. The result of this step will be an ISO file which you can "mount" in Daemon Tools (or any "virtual" drive app) to check the validity of your files. Sometimes, I get sloppy and end up with a director's cut or a file that has only one sound track that I can't understand. I've found it a good practice to check my files before I spend the time and waste a disc. :)

Next, send your ISO to disc with your favorite burning software. The following are two options I have in Nero6. [list=1]1. You can either pull up the ISO by using the menu command "Recorder > Burn Image", or
2. Burn the "mounted" file using the "DVD Copy" mode. [/list=1]The DVD Copy mode is slower, Nero has to make a temp file of the ISO you've already got on your hard drive, so I usually go with the "Burn Image" mode. Either method will work, just fine.

If you've established that your ISO is solid, the problem will usually lie with incompatible media, as not all standalone players will digest every brand of media available. Some of them are just plain inferior, and having no experience with Khypermedia, I can't comment on that brand. Check with Plextor on what media you should get the best results with, or check this database for feedback from others with your same burner model.

Player/media compatibility (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers)
Burner/media compatibility (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdwriters)

On the ARccOS protection, click through the last couple of pages in the Decrypting Forum and you'll find some feedback. One of the threads that will poke you in the eye has a quote straight from Lightning UK, DVDDecrypter's creator:

"DVD Decrypter 3.5.2.0 will work with these discs", so be sure to have this version on hand to work with.

Good day and good luck.

ammck55

[downsouth]

thanks :)

[ammck55]

You're welcome. Thanks are always appreciated, but what is even more appreciated, is what Ddogg called "punching the trouble ticket".

Let's say that some of the advice in this thread was helpful, but it wasn't exactly what you needed; consequently, you had to do further research on your own to come up with a solution. Now, visualize another Newbie that has problems similar to yours pulling this thread up through the search engine only to realize that he doesn't know if the suggestions worked, or not. All of us approach a problem with more confidence if we think what we're doing is going to work and it's not just another "shot in the dark" like so many other attempts that have failed before we resorted to taking the time to post our problem in a public forum.

Also, give your thread an appropriate title. Moderators and power users drop in here every day, and being busy people like all of us these days, they tend to scan new thread titles for something that lies in their area of expertise, or for something that piques their curiosity. Bogus titles are a turn-off. The most important thing you can do when posting is to give your thread a title that will attract exactly what you need--someone more knowledgeable than yourself! One example of a better title for your thead would be:

Failed burns. DVD Shrink, DVDDecrypter, or ARcoSS?

You can edit this yourself. Click on the "Edit" button at the bottom of your first post to this thread, do your editing, then click on the "Save Changes" button.

You and I aren't going to uncover any ground shaking new information in this thread; I guess you could call this.....my thought for the day. :)

ammck55

[downsouth]

Thanks for the lesson on board etiquitte. I'll be sure to keep it in mind the next time I post or start a new topic.

Here is what happened after I followed the advice given to me...

the movie is I (heart) huckabees,

I deleted the previous decrypted (same movie) movie off my hard drive and used DVD decrypter to decrypt into file mode. I opened it up with DVD shrink and reauthored it so it is only the movie. i then mounted it in DAEMON Tools. (i do not have Nero) so i tried to burning it with roxio from the moutned drive which did not work. i then burned the ISO file that DVD shrink created using the DVD decrypter. For soem reason that worked this time. which had to be about the 10th disc i have used in trying to backup I (heart) huckabees using dvd decrypter to dvd shrink to dvd decrypter. :confused:

What I am still unclear on is weather I am supposed to burn the mounted image to a disc or the ISO image from dvd shrink to a disk when using the DAEMON Tools or if it is just a for me to view the files.

[ammck55]

Excellent! You've mastered the edit function and have made a roundtrip from your original disc to a backup. You've obviously found and learned how to use Daemon Tools on your own. Long journey, small steps!

The suggestion to mount the ISO in Daemon was aimed at making sure that you have a file created that you can both see, and hear; a preview, if you will. It's also an isolation technique; if the file is good as a virtually mounted copy and you end up with a disc that fails at some point, you don't have to go all the way back to your ripping procedures to look for the fix. As you've found by now, a file mounted in Daemon's "virtual" drive can be pulled up and played by a software player just as if it were a hardcopy disc. You can burn a copy utilizing a disc-to-disc mode on the "mounted" file (with some software--Nero is one example), but as I said in my previous post, it's rather a long way 'round the horn to go about it in this manner. It was only a suggestion of something that's possible, not something that's necessary. :)

You're doing fine, and have just executed a Rip > Re-author > Shrink > Burn! Until you want to reach out and expand your skills, it sounds as if a combination of DVDDecrypter and Shrink have given you positive results, and a workflow that you can now expand upon.

To build upon your newfound skills, look to the tutorials on this site and the archive at the DVDShrink site (http://www.dvdshrink.info). Shrink is an awesome little tool and much more flexible than many people would think at first glance.

On what may or may not be a relevant note pertaining to your circumstances, I've read of problems that were experienced during ripping while instances of DVDDecrypter and DVD43 were open simultaneously.

Come back and get help when you need it, but don't forget to come back and give it when you have some knowledge to spare!

ammck55

[downsouth]

That tutorial was very good. I bet if people took the time to go through it that it would save them alot of dvd back uping growing pains
(or however you want to put it). ;)

anyway...i read that too about the DVD43 and that is why unless dvddecrypter cannot rip it by itself i will be leaving it off from now on.

so here is another conclusion that I have come too and let me know if it is correct...if it rips without a problem, is reauthored and saved as an ISO image with out a problem, then moutned and is able to be viewed while on DAEMON Tools, is burned with out a problem to a disc, but the disc is unable to be played(when I know that the media is compatible with my drive and my stand alone) that the media is poor quality and is at fault?

[ammck55]

Originally posted by downsouth
That tutorial was very good.
Which tutorial? If you found one that was particularly helpful, by all means, insert a link to it in your next post. You can simply paste the URL into your Reply form, or, you can use the Reply Console toolbar for inserting hyperlinks. I prefer to manually insert my links; for help on that move, refer to the vB Code Help link in the Reply Console.

...if it rips without a problem, is reauthored and saved as an ISO image with out a problem, then mounted and is able to be viewed while on DAEMON Tools, is burned with out a problem to a disc, but the disc is unable to be played(when I know that the media is compatible with my drive and my stand alone) that the media is poor quality and is at fault?

If all the statements above are true and your hardware player hasn't blown up in the middle of your test, then yes, the particular disc you used from a good batch was faulty. Others surely have different experiences, but I don't think I have ever worked my way to the bottom of a 100 unit cakebox of blank media without having a failure. Right off the top of my head, I'd say my failure ratio is around 4-5%. If you acquire a bootleg DVD without knowing it, there's always the possibility of bad editing including corrupt menu commands, etc., that a software player can untangle but a hardware player cannot, but you'll have to figure those out on your own.

ammck55

[downsouth]

Originally posted by ammck55
Which tutorial?


I should say tutorials... Tutorials for DVD Shrink (http://www.dvdshrink.info/guides.php#tours)