Nero for Linux

[virux]

http://www.nero.com/en/NeroLINUX.html
has anybody tried this already?

[six6]

I just gave it a run. Here (http://www.sunfryes.com/files/Screenshot-NERO.png) is a screenshot of the default startup.

I don't see the advantage of this over k3b, etc. It doesn't (as far as I can tell) let you make dvd9->dvd5 conversions.

Also, it can't backup multisession discs, like 'The Matrix' dvd (and others, that's just what I tested first). Here (http://www.sunfryes.com/files/Screenshot-NERO-2.png) is what it says when you try to.

Why did they develop this for linux?

[Neo Neko]

Who cares if it does not have an advantage? Nero is known for some pretty solid burning apps under Windows. But that does not translate to having the same thing under Linux immediatly. I think this is an excelent first effort.

People are always talking trash about Linux etc saying there is no commercial software for Linux. We all know this is not even close to true. Even if they are not selling it standalone this is still a big first step. To be honest most of us don't think linux needs more credibility. But this speaks fairly big to the average joe at home. Linux does not "need" Nero. But apparently Nero sees and is exploring a possible need for Linux. It may be lackluster. But it is a start. ;) Nero is racking up some good karma points. :D

[six6]

I agree that it's a good "first effort". In fact, I never said it was "lackluster"; it looks to be a huge undertaking (entirely proprietary replacement of cdrecord, etc). But, in terms of functionality, it doesn't replace or compare to other cd burning applications. When you consider it's $50 (or whatever)...

Anyway, if they developed it to eventually add functionality (1-click backup, etc) not currently fulfilled, I'd say it was worthwhile. Otherwise...? Why not just contribute resources to existing projects?

On the other hand, I think it's good for companies to take initiative towards Linux. Where you see it as a beginning interest, I see it more as reinventing the wheel. If/when they add functionality beyond this, everone will agree it was worth it.

[nexx]

Some good points raised. While the program itself offers nothing new (yet) and it seems piontless to not contribute to existing tools instead,it is good to see companies supporting GNU/Linux.

[six6]

Don't know if someone from here posted it or what, but this showed up (http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/03/13/009200.shtml?tid=185&tid=198&tid=106) @ slashdot.

[Joe Fenton]

It's not worth the money right now. It only burns ISO, NRG, or CUE images. The Windows version handles more than a dozen different image formats - why the heck did they eliminate that from the linux version? It was one of the better things about NERO.

[JuanCC]

Is very strange , nerolinux seems more similar to Gnometoaster :
http://gnometoaster.rulez.org/whatis.html#screenshots

NeroLinux screenshots :
http://ww2.nero.com/us/NeroLINUX_Gallery.html

[Neo Neko]

@joe
How could they eliminate something that was never there. You could say the features were currently missing. But not that they were eliminated. ;)

[outlyer]

Well, as I see it they offer a simple burning application, with no support if you register the win version... uhmm, I guess this will change in the future, but for now I can't see what's the target user base.

Real linux users will probably rather use k3b, graveman or some other nice GUI; or the command line utilities.
Recent switchers will probably find it a crippled Nero, and if they have a problem, just don't call Ahead.
Win users won't give a damn about it.

If I was them I'd rather wait to have a more killer app, or give it for free for now.

About the karma move... this doesn't makes me gain any (extra) appreciation for them for the above reasons.

[Joe Fenton]

Originally posted by Neo Neko
@joe
How could they eliminate something that was never there. You could say the features were currently missing. But not that they were eliminated. ;)

Well, if you consider it a port of the Windows version, which is what they vaguely hint at, then they haven't finished porting ALL the code. My guess is it's not so much removed as disabled while they work on it some more.

[JuanCC]

Someone that has installed NeroLinux , can say that in about window or splash screen , tell something about GnomeToaster?

I continue saying that it is looked a lot to GnomeToaster and GnomeToaster is GPL , so if NeroLinux copy or use part of the source code , they are violated GPL license : http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html

[Mosu]

Originally posted by JuanCC
I continue saying that it is looked a lot to GnomeToaster and GnomeToaster is GPL , so if NeroLinux copy or use part of the source code...

I'm rolling, laughing and other things. GUIs are so incredibly easy to create. Every non-skilled programmer (and I'm one of them regarding GUI programming) can use one of the existing GUI builders, e.g. the Qt designer for Qt and others for GTK, and hack together something that looks like gnometoaster in less than a day.

Sorry, but I find it highly unlikely and hard to believe that Nero should have used GPLed code for the GUI.

[Neo Neko]

Yeah I think I could whip up a look alike in Glade etc in a few minutes. Now interfacing with code to get it to do something is another task altogether.

Microsoft pretty much shot the look and feel argument. About the only time that sort of thing works anymore is when a big company threatens small groups of individuals. Like Apple threatening to sue makers of aqua look alike themes for Windows and Linux. It wouldn't hold up in court. But most of those groups can't afford to go to court to show how frivolous the claims are.

There has however been some "credible" claims about about another project that might be missusing "(L)GPL" code. Though it is to early to say for sure. It may all be a misunderstanding. At this point it will take a bit more than "it looks like X" to make me suspect Nero.

I would agree with others this would have probably been better handled as some sort of free "beta" release. But if it is after all Nero's work as they claim. It is their right to release it this way. I can kind of see their motivation to do this. As sort of a value added thing to their legitimate customers. And I for one welcome it till someone comes up with something more credible against it. Not that I am going to use it right now as I currently have better aplications for the purpose at the moment. ;) It would be awesome if they ported their recode app etc as well.

[six6]

@Mosu

GUIs are so incredibly easy to create. Every non-skilled programmer...can use one of the existing GUI builders...for GTK, and hack together something that looks like gnometoaster in less than a day.


I have some UI designing I'd like you to do; it'll take less than a day. :)

[Joe Fenton]

Just go into Glade and drag the stuff where you want it. Making the GUI is easy and fast. Making the code to tie it to the rest of the program will take quite a bit more time. :D

[six6]

But notice I said designing as opposed to building... :)

[disturbed1]

In the about screen it lists that part of the GUI are licensed from Gnome Toaster.

Also, if you import ogg files, Nero says it needs a tool that the author of Gnome Toaster created, to be able to get the length of the stream.

K3B, nor Gnome Baker need this tool.

I think the current version is crap, but it is a step in the right direction. We know what Nero did for the Windows platform, hopefully they can bring some nice tools to Linux for us.

[RedDwarf69]

Yes, in the start splash screen says "Parts of the GUI licensed from GnomeToaster, Copyright A. Eckleder".

[Elias]

Will Nero make Nero Digital available for Linux?