Output folder too big

[ldbjr]

I'm sure it's been asked before but I can't find an answer on the forums right now. I started with a 6.8g video ts folder and ended up with 11g. It went from 7 main vob files to 11. Could someone tell me what the cause might be. I'm using DVD RB v.72 with CCE mode, 8 VBR passes. I'll include the log file. The movie is disc 1 of this series- http://imdb.com/title/tt0083505/

[jdobbs]

Make sure you look at the size of the VIDEO_TS folder only.

The only way you could possibly have more VTSs than you started with you have the "ILUV_Extract=1" flag set in your REBUILDER.INI file. That should never be set. It was put there for my development alone and I wish I'd never mentioned it in a post...

[ldbjr]

I don't see that flag you mentioned. Here's the ini:

[Audio]
Selected=11
[Options]
Mode=2
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=3
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=0
Skin=Rockas Original
CCE=0
idct7Opt=1
Completed=1
[Paths]

QuEnc=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB\ReJig\ReJig.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB\EclPro\EclPro.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll
Working=D:\xnews\downloads\DVDR\working\
Output=F:\DVDRB COMPLETE\
CCE250=C:\Program Files\Cinema Craft Encoder SP v2.67.00.27\cctsp.exe
Source=D:\DVDR\YOESE-NTSC-1OF3\
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=8



And thanks for replying!

[TheSeeker]

What was your exact backup procedure? Give software versions and all steps you took to backup the disc. Starting with ripping the dvd and ending with you hitting rebuild in DVD Rebuilder.

[ldbjr]

I tried it again and got the same thing. The disc was ripped with DVD Decrypter v3.5.2. Then right on to DVD RB. Here's the log file:

Transcoding...
-----------------
[15:32:07] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,497,359 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 357,285 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 41,908 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,336 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 60.4%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,202Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,065,072KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = .6%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 2,651/393/2,202 Kbs
[15:39:44] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 7 minutes.
[15:39:44] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 19
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 20
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 21
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 22
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 23
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 24
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 25
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 26
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 27
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 28
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 29
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 30
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 31
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 32
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 33
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 34
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 35
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 36
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 3
[21:03:39] Phase II ENCODING completed in 324 minutes.
[21:03:39] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 10 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 11 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 12 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 13 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 14 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 15 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 16 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 19 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 20 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 21 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 23 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding segment 24 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 25 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 26 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 27 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 28 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 29 VOBID: 5 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Rebuilding segment 30 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 31 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 32 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 33 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 34 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 35 VOBID: 6 CELLID: 6
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_06
- Rebuilding segment 36 VOBID: 7 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_07
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 2 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 3 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 4 CELLID: 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
[21:40:47] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 37 minutes.

Done.

[jdobbs]

I can't image how you could get 11GB at 2651Mbs. You'd need over 500 minutes of video. Could you please post the contents of the VIDEO_TS directory?

I think is is interesting that the size of the original DVD when added to the 4.3GB that DVD-RB would create together adds up to 11GB.... you aren't setting the working directory and source directory to the same place are you?

[ldbjr]

No, directories are not the same (see .ini file above). But now that you mention it, that does look like that is what is happening (source files and output files ending up in the output folder). I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to copy folder contents into this message, but the main video files are VTS_01_1.VOB through VTS_01_7.VOB in the original folder. When I check the output, I end up with 1-11.

[lamster]

Originally posted by ldbjr
I'm having a hard time trying to figure out how to copy folder contents into this message
Open a command prompt window and enter a 'dir' command:
dir "F:\DVDRB COMPLETE\VIDEO_TS"

Then use cut-and-paste. You might also do the same for the source directory:
dir D:\DVDR\YOESE-NTSC-1OF3

[pg55555]

CCE250=C:\Program Files\Cinema Craft Encoder SP v2.67.00.27\cctsp.exe
This path should be for cce sp 2.50. For your version you should be using "CCENEW=" (see in Setup "Path to CCE SP (new)")

Also, in the Options \CCE Options select "CCE SP"

[jdobbs]

Whoah! I missed that and should have thought of it earlier. That is very probably the source of this problem. CCE has changed the ECL format several times and the method for selecting Constant Bitrate, Variable Bitrate, or Q based Variable Bitrate encoding has also changed. If you refrence the wrong encoder and the ECL doesn't make sense, more often than not your output will be created at 6000Kbs constant bitrate... and oversize by a lot.

Good catch pg55555!

[pg55555]

Thanks Master :)

[ldbjr]

Thanks guys, that seems to have done the trick. I've finally got a usable output folder. I should have figured that out on my own (meaning I pointed the CCE path to a mis-matched version number; "CCE SP New" does make more sense). This was a first effort for me, I'm sure things will go easier the more I use it. Thanks for a great program jdobbs, and also thanks to Doom9 for a great forum!

[jdobbs]

I gotta' agree with you there. I've been hanging around DOOM9 for a long time -- and this is without a doubt the place to be if you want the latest in video and audio processing.