DVD RB/Nero Error Message -Explanation Needed

[kcac]

I used DVD Rebuilder ver .77 to make a back-up. When I went to burn the DVD, Nero showed this message: DVD-Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD-Video might be unplayable. Do you want to continue.

The version nf Nero that I am using is Nero SE 6.3.1.12 for my Sony DRU-700A burner.

I've used DVD RB and this version of Nero in the past without a problem. Does anyone have an idea as to what the Nero error means? Should I disregard it and burn the disk anyway? Or better still, how do I avoid the error in the first place.

Thanks for any ideas on this.

[dannyv]

Originally posted by kcac
I used DVD Rebuilder ver .77 to make a back-up. When I went to burn the DVD, Nero showed this message: DVD-Video files reallocation failed. The resulting DVD-Video might be unplayable. Do you want to continue.

The version nf Nero that I am using is Nero SE 6.3.1.12 for my Sony DRU-700A burner.

I've used DVD RB and this version of Nero in the past without a problem. Does anyone have an idea as to what the Nero error means? Should I disregard it and burn the disk anyway? Or better still, how do I avoid the error in the first place.

Thanks for any ideas on this.

I've seen that message a few times so I just checked to make sure the movie played all the way through on the hard drive then just ignored the message and burned the disk. I've never had a problem with the burned disks. If your worried try it on a dvd-rw first.

[D3s7]

Nero gives that message a lot.....

so far the best way I've found is to get rid of Nero from the picture... I use ImgTool Classic to build a .iso then burn that w/ dvddecrypter

[kcac]

I tried writing using ImgTool, it gave me the an allocation error message, too. Is the use of ImgTool supposed to eliminate the allocation error message?


Amyway, I'll just burn a couple of DVDs, one with Nero and the other using the ImgTool and DVD Decrypter method and see what happens.

Thanks for the help.

[mpennel]

I may be wrong, but I've always assumed that message was present because of the ARCCOS copy protection, and the dummy files created by DVD Decryptor...I beleive Nero is checking the links to all the VTS files on the disc, and sees that some files aren't linked, or have problems, etc. (i.e., the blank dummy files). Maybe someone else can shed some light on this, but I know I've seen it happen a lot with discs that are reported to have ARCCOS protection.

[D3s7]

naw... nero's been giving that message LOOOONG before arccos... and actually arccos works by having cells NOT referenced..


Generally speaking you can ignore that message HOWEVER, there are players that can't handle dvd's made if that error is ignored...

Ahead tried to explain it once but I don't think they know what causes it either :)

[jdobbs]

Is it a real error? What does the error say? What are the symptoms?

[kcac]

Below is the Nero log file

When I go to burn the disk in Nero, I first get this message:
http://www.polar.icestorm.com/sfl/misc/nero_error.jpg


If I click "OK" to continue, I then get this message
http://www.polar.icestorm.com/sfl/misc/nero_error_2.jpg


I didn't choose to continue writing. Below is the Nero log file that resulted from the two error messages.

anon

1A22-0206-0530-1610-5715-1441*

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 9:20:56 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 12/16/2003 8:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.12
Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-700A> Version: VY05 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.1.12
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <SONY DVD RW DRU-700A >Version: VY05 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.1.12
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 2

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : ELBY DVD-ROM 1.0 ElbyVCD Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 93073U6 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y120L4 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-700A atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : ATAPI CD-RW 48X24 atapi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : IOMEGA ZIP 100 H.14 aic78xx Port 3 ID 6 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 5 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
ELBY DVD-ROM M: CDRom2
SONY DVD RW DRU-700A F: CDRom0
ATAPI CD-RW 48X24 G: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM L: CDRom3
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048052kB)
Free physical memory: 695MB (711988kB)
Memory in use : 32 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1)

8.3.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
7:32:33 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files reallocation started

7:32:33 PM #2 DVDREALLOC -22 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 1177
File 'VTS_02_0.VOB' is not referenced and should not be present

7:32:33 PM #3 Phase 115 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files reallocation failed

7:32:35 PM #4 Phase 132 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files compliance ignored

7:32:35 PM #5 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:32:35 PM #6 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
DVD-Video files sorted

7:32:35 PM #7 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

7:32:35 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:32:35 PM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:32:35 PM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

7:32:35 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2267567 (503:54.17, 4428MB)

7:32:35 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:32:35 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-700A, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

7:32:35 PM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:32:35 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2267568 (2267568) = #2267568/503:54.18
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2267568 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-700A ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:32:35 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-700A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4643979264, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2267568 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=6.1.1.17 , size=24698 bytes, created 9/4/2003 1:08:34 AM
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/17/2002 8:53:02 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 10/28/2003 4:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 12:59:42 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

[jdobbs]

It appears it is choking because of an unreferenced VOB... a VOB that exists on the original DVD. DVD-RB reproduces it because it is designed to make a copy that is as close to possible to the original. It's also debatable whether it truly isn't referenced, but they could be right -- DVD-RB doesn't even check for that.

Now as I recall there was also a problem similar to this related to zero length files in NERO.

I'd just burn it anyway -- or get a different burning package. Just my opinion. I'm not a big NERO fan.

[Rockas]

@kcac
Believe me... Nero isn't a great choice for burning DVD
The 6.6.XX.XX are much better though... you really should upgrade your version.
I'm not saying that that's not a valid error... but I've burned some DVD (with nero) with that error and the results were always fine.
Still... I prefer Pinnacle software.

keep it UP

[DK]

6.6.x or not doesn't really matter

i've had this message numerous times and ignored it

if i remember correctly there were 0byte vobs causing nero to choke

[D3s7]

Originally posted by kcac
I tried writing using ImgTool, it gave me the an allocation error message, too. Is the use of ImgTool supposed to eliminate the allocation error message?


Amyway, I'll just burn a couple of DVDs, one with Nero and the other using the ImgTool and DVD Decrypter method and see what happens.

Thanks for the help.

You used ImgTool not ImgTool Classic..


Imgtool is just a front end for Nero
ImgTool classic uses MKISOFS to generate the IMG

[kcac]

Thanks for the feedback. That was going to be my question, what software is recommended for DVD burning?

I'll try ImgTool Classic and see how that goes. I did try Alcohol 120. With Alcohol 120 the DVD burned fine - no error messages, but the DVD didn't play correctly in one spot - the picture and audio froze. I was testing the Alcohol burned DVD on my PC so, it might play correctly in a DVD player.

As some had noted, the Nero burned DVDs, even when Nero gave the reallocation error before burning, will still play. I found that the place on the DVD where the Alcohol 120 burned DVD froze, the Nero DVD did not. Not sure if that is conclusive of anything, but that is what I experienced. I have not yet attempted to play either DVD completely.

[jdobbs]

I've always recommended whatever comes with the drive... I use B's Recorder Gold for that reason. Any package that will burn a data dvd will work. You just drag and drop AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS into the disc's folder, change the label to what you want, and push the burn button.

[cali310]

I've noticed when I get the error there will be one or more vob's and ifo's that are 200 bytes in size. I just delete them and the prob is solved. Works every time for me.