Dummy Files Dilemma

[kenkong]

Ok, I've done about all the reading I can on this crap and I've just got one possibly two burning questions: Is there any way to do a full backup (not movie only) of a seamless branched dvd that contains dummy files using dvd rebuilder to encode it when all is said and done. If so, please tell me how in detail or point me in the right direction. Thank you for any and all that can help me.

[kenkong]

Figured it out. Tried to delete this thread but it won't let me.

[maksa]

...so others could learn as well.:)

[kenkong]

Well, I thought I had it figured out, but, I was wrong. Running the movie through voblanker took care of the dummy files. I then ran it through dvd shrink to get rid of some extras, that went fine. But rebuilder is where I get the problem now. I get the dreaded "error #0003" during rebuild. I've have version 0.74 and trid using special error processing but all atttemps result in the same error. I'm not giving up yet so if and when I do figure this out, I will report back.

[candsh]

What is the movie you are doing and why not remove the extras while you were in VOB Blanker instead of going to another program to do it, or just run the 1st blanker files through RB. I use Blanker this way all the time without problems.

[kenkong]

The movie is "The Forgotten" and I choose to use dvdshrink to remove extras because I'm not familiar with voblanker at all, that was the first time I had used it.

[maksa]

protection on DVD. Uses dummy files (Arcoss or something) and if you look in DVD Decrypting forum, you will find more info. VobBlanker is about only one now to strip dummies and DVDDEcripter V3.5.2 (only) handles this disk.
Actually, you have started in the right forum and they moved you to this one because U R using DVD_RB. RB will process Forgotten after VobBlanker correctly.

[candsh]

I was able to make a sucessful backup of The Forgotten only after doing all of my preprocessing with VOB Blanker. Tried a straight encode with RB and errored out in rebuild (been a while but I think it was 003) After you open at the top click on the VTS you want to look at and all the components of it open in the bottom section. Click on them one at a time and select Prev/Cut and a new screen will open and you can play the selected items. If you want to keep them do nothing. If you want to remove it click Blank and go on to the next one. When you are done Click File>Execute or Alt. E and it will process all the files for you. Blanker will do much more than this but like you said I am a little afraid to get too wild with it. Let RB remove the audio and subs you don't want. Fun to play with too. By the way, after removing all you want sometimes the finished Blanker files are small enough to burn to DVD-5, If that is the case, rename your target folder VIDEO_TS, drag it into your burning program and burn.

[Trahald]

Forgotten isnt a seamless branching title.. at least not the R1 anyways. it has some non-seamless branching for the extended version.

[kenkong]

I'm going to try with DVD43 which is said to remove those bad/dummy sectors. I'll report back after I get my results.

[jdobbs]

You don't have to do anything special to back up "The Forgotten" as long as you are using DVD-RB v0.73 or above. The previous problem(s) was related to "null" sectors that were created by DVD Decrypter in the way it countered a copy protection mechanism.

[kenkong]

with all do respect (and I respect you a lot for all you've done) I beg to differ. I am using the latest public release of dvd-rb 0.74 and I've gotten the error #0003 every time I've tried to backup the forgotten.

[kenkong]

are you saying that if i use 0.73 or higher that there won't be 5 minutes or so of nothing at the beginning of the movie if I don't remove the dummy files?

[TheSeeker]

Can you skip that nothing at the beginning? Or is it unskipable? I would just remove it with voblanker, like pretty much everyone else does.. I have found dvd remake works pretty good as well. Though that is pay software. But worth it to remove menu buttons and merge two dvd's together keeping both menu's.

[jdobbs]

I beg to differ with your begging to differ. :D I've done "The Forgotten" (NTSC R1) several times -- and you don't have to skip the blank area. On that DVD they used a "trick" of creating entries in the IFO tables for portions of cells (beginning/ending sectors). DVD-RB now forces I-Frames at those points as well and recreates the partial cells -- so it will playback just like the original (without the annoying long blank period at movie start).