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maksa
22nd February 2005, 05:02
When you check subtitles that you want to keep, after saving project & reloading it (e.g. tomorrow), subtitle selection is lost - all subs are selected. Before audio would do the same, now it is OK, only subs.
When doing it in Batch mode, all subs are retained.
Not a biggie, but annoying.

Regards Jdobbs, good show! Cheers...

bonefish
23rd February 2005, 22:12
If im gone do batch with dvd-rb, i process the vobs through ifoedit first to get out unwanted streams. its really easy, and as far as i know its the only program out there that remove language/subtitle tracks at the same time as it removes the references for them, in other words: a clean strip.

another question that someone might help me with. has there been a change in targetsize since .74 release? i understand if it has since some people got oversized outputs. so, if there was a change, what was the old one = worked better for me.

using cce 2.70.2, dg 1.1 if it matters.

EDIT: great work jdobbs, never had a problem with dvd-rb

BobZhome
24th February 2005, 01:10
Why take out subtitles? They tend to be about 5 MB, which will add nothing to your biterate.

My number 1 wishlist/fix would be to have closed captions not stripped by dvd-rb :scared:

Trahald
24th February 2005, 03:02
Originally posted by BobZhome
Why take out subtitles? They tend to be about 5 MB, which will add nothing to your biterate.

My number 1 wishlist/fix would be to have closed captions not stripped by dvd-rb :scared:
dvdrb doesnt strip them.. the encoding process does. dvd2avi does not pass cc info over. basically the closed captions have to be added back into the stream (they are actually carried in the mpeg stream) . technicality.. but basically it makes adding cc back in a feature.. not something to be 'fixed'

squinty
24th February 2005, 06:07
When you check subtitles that you want to keep, after saving project & reloading it (e.g. tomorrow), subtitle selection is lost - all subs are selected. Before audio would do the same, now it is OK, only subs.

.77 is doing the same for me in batch mode. Perhaps its not saving the subtitle selection correctly in the project file?

maksa
24th February 2005, 14:59
dvdrb doesnt strip them.. the encoding process does. dvd2avi does not pass cc info over.

I disagree, when I do movie with Big 3 method, using dvd2avi, they are still there. I think the way DVD-RB does the job, splitting movie into cells and encoding those messes up the line 21 (where CC is). I am not sure if the CC is encoded in MPEG as a forced substream and than ijected in line 21 or it is encoded as a part of the video material directly into MPEG.

Trahald
25th February 2005, 03:06
Originally posted by maksa
I disagree, when I do movie with Big 3 method, using dvd2avi, they are still there. I think the way DVD-RB does the job, splitting movie into cells and encoding those messes up the line 21 (where CC is). I am not sure if the CC is encoded in MPEG as a forced substream and than ijected in line 21 or it is encoded as a part of the video material directly into MPEG. The CC info is ripped during the dif4u process with big3 and converted to something scenarist wants by a cli app.. but the CC is also in the video but thats fine since its not encoded with cce. what then happens the closed captions are added back into scenarist. as an example, if you process your video with rejig scenarist complains because since rejig does not remove the CC, trying to add back in the LIne21 info creates an error.

BobZhome
25th February 2005, 19:07
ok, so CC is more of a wiselist item rather than a fix.
Hopefully jdobbs has CC on the todo list :) Thanks!