avi softsub decoding

[digitize]

I searched the forum but didn't see any matches. Anyway, I've been told that there isn't any support for avi softsubs in linux right now, for example I know mplayer currently doesn't support it. Are there any players (xine, vlc) that do support it, or is there a semi easy word around for this problem?

[ac-chan123]

MPlayer, Xine and VideoLan Client support embedded and extern subtitels. Read the man pages for more infos about how they use it.

[digitize]

Eh... it's not so easy with softsubs in avi, it's not the same as the mkv, ogm, or whatever containers. When a friend asked the mplayer devs about avi softsub support they said to code it on your own. If you don't believe me, mux some softsubs into an avi stream, there are some apps (on windows at least). Then try to play the vid back with subtitles in any of the above players, you'll be in for a surprise.

EDIT: I'm specfically referring to ssa in avi if that clears anything up.

[Neo Neko]

Well strictly speaking AVI in general has no standard way of embedding subtitles. There are several different methods to do the same thing in AVI which are not totally compatable IIRC. Which is why at least in part I think the Mplayer devs don't want much to do with it. They have better things to waste their time on. No offense intended.

Why might I ask is this important to you? Have you made the mistake of backing up to many such AVI files? If so have you tried converting to Matroska etc? It may take time to acomplish. But this is probably the better solution I can think of. I mean to me it makes the most sense that if you want a feature you use a container that actually supports it. AVI will never actually support subtitles AFAIK. All this stuff is just non-standard hacks by people with no influence over the actual standard of implementation.

[digitize]

Oh i totally understand no offense taken. It's just that a member of this forum (cough mf cough) is choosing to use this method rather than hardsubtitles for avi, or soft subtitles for another container. Which led me to here wondering if an actual solution existed for ssa in avi. Thank you for you help.