Star Trek the original series 3: new heavy protection

[vermaccio]

Star Trek the original series 3: new heavy protection

I've just bought the 3rd box of "Star Trek, the original series".

Label disc is:
Star trek
the original series
SEASON THREE
EU 110410/1968/colour/194mins approx./ full frame/ stereo)

(i live in Italy)

I wanted to see it on my new big tft pc monitor.

BUT it's impossible seeing it by computer.

If you try to insert one of dvds in a pc dvd-reader or in a pc dvd-writer it will try to analyze the disc and it will not find any disc. I tried with 3 different computers, different os, different dvd harware.

1)i insert the disc

2)the dvd try to analiza "tlak.. tlak..tlak..."

3)no more noise from dvd

4)"no disc inserted" message in windows file manager

It's impossible seeing this dvd by pc.

Using a table-dvd-player everything is ok and you can see the disc.

Probably the disc has an heavy damaged toc, as the music cd "cactus shield 300" protection or similar, i don't kwow.

The dvd-hardware can't see the disc, so it's impossible using a dvd-player software on a pc or ripping it.

i tried everything i know

win2000 sp4
winXP sp1
lunx mandrake 10.1
toshiba 1612
toshiba 1802
Lg 4082
Lg 4120
Lg 4160
isobuster
clonedvd last version
dvshrink
dvddecrypter last version
anydvd last version
...
..
.


does anyone know what's the problem? how ca i solve it?


Season 1 and 2 had not this problem. Is it a new dvd protecion? If yes it's a terrible one. If it's, the arcoos one is a joke, so.

(sorry for my poor english)

[maksa]

had a similar protection. It wouldn't play in computer CD. Fix was using black marker on the inner edge of the disk to disable reading of some sectors that crash the system. I am not saying that is the fix, but maybe is something like that.
Just my 2c..

[vermaccio]

yes. you could "fix" those cd by black colour. but the cd surface of the cd presented a visible circle (the "damaged" zone.
The surface of those dvd is perfect. you can't see anything to "fix".

[vermaccio]

news:
i could read those dvd by a veeeeeery old pioneer dvd (a 4X one).
It was a "no-lock" dvd (no rpcII, probably nor I).

Now i must understand if it could read because "too primitive" or if Lg "new" dvd-rewriters are bad dvd.

soon i will update their firmware and i will check dvds again (e.g: lg4120: from 102 to 111).

see you soon here.

:(

[squinty]

It could be the optics in those LG drives if the TOC is damaged. They may actually be *too* picky. I have an old Toshiba scsi DVD rom in one of my computers and it can't read any of my stargate season 1 dvd's. :confused: However; they play and rip fine in my lite-on drive. I can see a very faint ring on most of these dvd's near the center, so it would make sense if the Toshiba has trouble reading it, since I've read Toshiba optics are usually considered among the pickiest.

[vermaccio]

solved by firmware pdate

lg4120 from A102 to A111

the 2old" firmware created problems also to other drives.

from the other side the toshiba1612 can't read those disks and i don't know why