Any new tools for cutting out unwanted material?

[MDesigner]

About a year ago I had to use IfoEdit and some other tools to cut out stuff like previews, the FBI warning, etc. It was a real tedious pain in the ass.

I'm wondering if there are any new easy tools to do this? I'd really appreciate it. Some DVDs I own are terribly annoying with their previews and crap. I just want to pop the DVD in and have it go straight to the menu.

Thanks!

[windtrader]

dvdshrink

dvd rebuilder

clonedvd2

These will do what you need, especially if you need to "cut" parts of cells out. dvdshrink is free. Other two require some $$.

[Chetwood]

The tools you need would be

PgcEdit
Menuedit
Titlewriter
Vobblanker

and DVDRemakePro <- commerical.

[MDesigner]

Sounds like it's still a big hassle.. nevermind.

My current process is:

DVDDecryptor
DVDShrink
Burn w/ Nero

The optimal process would be:

DVDDecryptor
(some application to remove unwanted scenes in ONE STEP)
DVDShrink
Burn w/ Nero

Until that becomes a reality, forget it. I don't have time to fuss with all these apps just to remove scenes.

Thanks anyway

[Chetwood]

These were EXAMPLES, you do not need to use all these tools together but only those depending on what you wanna do. E.g., I always use DVD Decrypter to rip a movie to HD. Then I can use PgcEdit to change the navigation so that the DVD jumps straight to the movie or menu when loading it. After that I use Shrink to make an ISO and burn with Decrypter again.

Of course it all depends on how much you want to fiddle with the original. You could use DVD Remake Pro to completely change the appearance of the in one step and then burn your own DVD.

[MDesigner]

This is what I'm talking about:

http://home.tiscali.be/debie.roland/pgcedit/pgcedit1.jpg

Can't we just get some simple, easy to use tool like DVDShrink, to cut out unwanted previews and FBI warnings?? Or edit the PGC a bit more simply? I don't know about the rest of you, but I have a full-time job and working on a 2nd career outside of that. I don't have time to putz around with all these tools. Tools like IfoEdit and PgcEdit add about an extra 30-40 mins to the whole rip/reburn process. No thanks. Not to mention that if I don't burn a DVD in a long time, I forget the process of IfoEdit because it's so damn complicated. Certain options have to be selected, there's a specific step-by-step methodology to it, etc. I remember using MenuEdit and IfoEdit in conjunction to remove scenes. Oh, and then if I you wanted to totally remove a scene, you couldn't just remove the VOB.. you had to insert a blank one.

It's too much of a headache. I'll just leave the unwanted scenes in for now at the cost of compression quality.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by MDesigner
I don't know about the rest of you, but I have a full-time job and working on a 2nd career outside of that. I don't have time to putz around with all these tools.
It's too much of a headache.Backing up DVDs is supposed to be fun. You gotta have positive interests in it no matter what tools are currently out there. Just be glad we still have good people making new programs, no matter how complicated they are. You sound very disgruntled. :( It's not like a job, though some users here do it for a career. But IMHO, if I didn't have any love for this game, I wouldn't be hanging out here at Doom9's forum for as long as I have. Just like working out at the gym, you gotta have to put some significant time and effort into it. The end justifies the means. ;)

[MDesigner]

Well, I see where you're coming from. There's the enthusiast who loves all of these tools and has fun using them. Then there's another group like me, who wants the process to be as simple as possible, but knows the programs like DVDXCOPY or DVD123 or whatever are pure junk. I have enough time to use DVDDecryptor and DVDShrink, because they're very straightforward and I don't have to sit here and work on it. It takes about 45-60 mins for the whole process, but I can leave it do its thing while I do something else. With MenuEdit/IfoEdit/etc. I have to sit down and putz around with files for a while, and the tradeoff for me is not worth it.

So, I'll just keep copying the whole thing until a tool like DVDShrink comes out that lets you easily remove material. Or DVDShrink includes such a feature. There's the re-authoring option in DVDShrink, but I seem to recall there being some drawback.. I think you lose the menus if you use it. If that problem is addressed, I'd gladly pay $50 for DVDShrink.

Just my two cents.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by MDesigner
I have to sit down and putz around with files for a while, and the tradeoff for me is not worth it.So why bother? If you don't have any love for doing it then, to reiterate...why bother?

Time seems to be a big issue for some people. Even the time for burning the DVDs is looked down upon as opposed to burning CDs. You got expect it. It's part of the game. ;)

[Chetwood]

Originally posted by MDesigner
So, I'll just keep copying the whole thing until a tool like DVDShrink comes out that lets you easily remove material. Or DVDShrink includes such a feature. There's the re-authoring option in DVDShrink, but I seem to recall there being some drawback.. I think you lose the menus if you use it. If that problem is addressed, I'd gladly pay $50 for DVDShrink.


I couldn't care less for menus on single movies, with episode DVDs it's a different thing but I've taken care of it with my guide on adding selfmade menus so I'm happy with DVD Shrink. However, since there will be no new version of DVD Shrink you can use your $50 to pay for DVD Remake Pro which is quite straightfoward and not as difficult as Ifoedit and co. You should try the demo version which does not save manipulated files but you can see for yourself if it is capable and easy enough for your taste.

Problem is that if you fiddle around too much in ifo there's no other way than to rewrite the whole DVD which - though done automatically by DVD Remake - adds an additional step to the whole process. I'm currently not up to date with tools like vobblanker to know how much of rewriting of the disk they require but the last time I did a full disc copy I used Menuedit to remove the 'extras'-button and then set all extras to still images in DVD Shrink => the DVD got significantly smaller in a blink of an eye and I could shrink the DVD easily.

It's up to you.

[Nick40]

This edit software would be great.
I often record movies from commercial tv and they are filled with commercials.
Is there an easy way to get them off ?
I can blanc them out,then my recorder don't show them,but on any other player you can still see them.
I would do anything for some easy software that makes me cut some commercials,and then make a dvd of the new movie without the commercials.. any idea how ?

[MDesigner]

Nick40: I can see you're new to the forum..just a friendly note: you might want to post a new message about your question. Posting an unrelated question in someone else's thread is called "hijacking."

Just FYI.

[Nick40]

Originally posted by MDesigner
Nick40: I can see you're new to the forum..just a friendly note: you might want to post a new message about your question. Posting an unrelated question in someone else's thread is called "hijacking."

Just FYI.
Just want to be friendly too, but is this not just what the topic starter asked for ? software for cutting unwanted material is the title, and that is the same I am asking for.
For me, commercials,are unwanted material..... so why it's unrelated ?

[MDesigner]

Nick,

Close but not exactly. I posted about taking out unwanted titles from DVDs. You're talking about taking one long video stream and editing it to remove the commercials.

I could be wrong, but I think VirtualDubMod might do what you want.. not sure though. You'll get better results by posting a new thread.

[Nick40]

Originally posted by MDesigner
Nick,

Close but not exactly. I posted about taking out unwanted titles from DVDs. You're talking about taking one long video stream and editing it to remove the commercials.

I could be wrong, but I think VirtualDubMod might do what you want.. not sure though. You'll get better results by posting a new thread.
In both cases,we search for software to remove things from a DVD and it's not one long stream that my DVD recorder makes,when it detects a scene change it starts a new chapter (with the commercial in it) ,but okay,if it makes you happy, I start a new topic.

[TheSeeker]

Hey MDesigner,

If I could only have one tool for blanking out anything, cutting anything out, disabling buttons, and tweaking navigation it would be DVD Remake Pro. Go out and get that, I think its what you are looking for. It works great and is simple. And if you ever have some spare time it can be very advanced as well. You could easily change navigation with it to make the menu's pop up instantly and easily cut out and bypass unwated trailers and or studio logos. Its pretty much a must have in my opinion.

[MDesigner]

Couldn't I just get DVD Remake (non pro version)? It seems it does what I need it do.. it'll remove the FBI warning and previews, right? Pro just seems to have more advanced features I may not use..

[TheSeeker]

Sure whatever you think man. YOu know what features your gonna need not me. THey are both great purchases. And your right you probably will never need the pro features. Except for maybe merging dvd's. That one is a really nice feature for combining anime series dvd's.

[MDesigner]

Awesome! Thanks to everyone who mentioned DVD Remake. I'll try the demo out & buy it if I like it.

[TheSeeker]

Just an FYI. The demo is pretty much useless. You cant export the dvd files after editing them with Remake. You have to have a real copy to do that. IMO its worth the money. But you will have to make that decision for yourself.

[MDesigner]

I went over their little guide on the web site. It seems kind of an odd process:

1. Use DVDShrink to rip DVD and cut out unwanted audio tracks and subtitles.
2. Use DVD Remake to hide unwanted material and menu items.
3. Use software to transcode video files to fit on a 4.7GB DVD blank.
4. Burn.

This order doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Wouldn't this be better?:

1. Rip with DVD Decryptor.
2. Use DVD Remake to hide unwanted scenes/menus.
3. Use DVDShrink to open new files produced from Remake and cut unwanted audio/subtitles, set compression rates, and transcode.
4. Burn.

[Chetwood]

Weird, haven't check their guides though. In any case I'd use the second methode, makes definitely more sense.

[undercover_dancer]

Have been using DVDRemakePro and all my friend who see my backups go wild as you can cut off the unwatned stuff. In my case since my kids speak French (err) and I like the movies in English I also usually manage to remove leave the main "select langauge" screen, then keep only the menu in English (removing French, Dutch, etc.) and keeping the sound option.

To do so - and that's might be a "downside" to some - you need to learn how does a menu work with all it's parameters and statements. Eventually after a few weeks of playing around I improved myself and It's now just another script langauge you work with - and save a huge amount of material you really don't need.

I do recommend the software which, combined with a dvdshrink for ripping plus your favorite transcoder can generate very exciting results.

[Chetwood]

Originally posted by undercover_dancer
In my case since my kids speak French (err) and I like the movies in English I also usually manage to remove leave the main "select langauge" screen, then keep only the menu in English (removing French, Dutch, etc.) and keeping the sound option.


Uh, do you remove or leave the language selection menu? I always set the german language to on (with DVD Shrink or PgcEdit) and if I watch alone switch to english with my remote. I'd hate to have to dive into menus for that.

[blutach]

Originally posted by Chetwood
Uh, do you remove or leave the language selection menu? I always set the german language to on (with DVD Shrink or PgcEdit) and if I watch alone switch to english with my remote. I'd hate to have to dive into menus for that. Especially since most people use Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams incorrectly.

Refer here (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45228) if you want to keep menus and do it right.

Regards

[biggy7]

i used to use dvd stripper back in the day.

but now i just use clonedvd, with this i can rip all extras, unwanted sounds/subs and still keep the main movie and menus (which is the way i like it)

then if need be use dvdshink then thats it :)