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robnyt
25th December 2004, 07:28
You won't BELIEVE how basic these questions are, but I just don't know the answers.

1) Burned a video file onto a DVD-R and the quality is pretty good. What's the difference between that and a DVD-RW?

2) Burned the above mentioned DVD with Nero by selecting the "Make Video CD" option. What's the difference between that and the "Make Super Video CD" option?

dani82
25th December 2004, 10:11
1. compatibility with your dvd player (or something like that)

2. svcd has the ability to produce an higher quality movie over a vcd, but you should select either of those if your burning a dvd movie

The Geek
25th December 2004, 10:28
1) DVD-R is write once. You can't erase what you've burnt on it.
DVD-RW is rewritable. You can erase it and burn something else.

And yup, DVD-R is more compatible thatn DVD-RW. . though current DVD players usually support both, but older ones usually have problems with -RW.

2) VCD uses MPEG-1, 352x288@25fps for PAL, 352x240@29.97fps for NTSC
SVCD uses MPEG-2, 480x576@25fps for PAL, 480x480@29.97fps for NTSC

The Geek

robnyt
25th December 2004, 16:37
VCD uses MPEG-1, 352x288@25fps for PAL, 352x240@29.97fps for NTSC SVCD uses MPEG-2, 480x576@25fps for PAL, 480x480@29.97fps for NTSC
***:confused: Is there any chance of translating this to "Stupid"?

The Geek
25th December 2004, 17:36
MPEG is a video compression techology, so that you get good quality videos, at a low size.
The very first one was MPEG-1, and that is what VCD uses.
MPEG-2 is more advanced, and that one is used by SVCD and DVD.
And then there is MPEG-4, with its derivates like DivX, XVid, WMV, etc.

Now, every video has a resolution. It's defined by the amount of pixels horizontally and vertically. For example, 800x600 means 800 pixels to the right and 600 pixels to the bottom.

There are two important "TV-systems" in the world, PAL and NTSC. Actually, for digital stuff, PAL and NTSC are the only ones that exist. They differ in terms of framerate and vertical resolution.

So, for a PAL VCD you need the video in MPEG-1 format, with a resolution of 352x288, and 25 frames per second (fps).
For an NTSC VCD you'd need the video in MPEG-1 format, but with a resolution of 352x240, and 29.97fps.

The Geek

manono
25th December 2004, 17:45
I can speak "Stupid". :)

VCD (Video CD), when compared to SVCD (Super Video CD) or just about anything else, has lower resolution and looks like crap.

Nice explanation, The Geek.

robnyt
25th December 2004, 18:02
The Geek: TRULY, thank you VERY much for the attempt but maybe I should have said "VERY Stupid". ;)

Manono: PERFECT! Now Hulk understand. Hulk happy.

My last question then would be why use the "Video CD" option when "Super" is that much better?

The Geek
25th December 2004, 18:19
The Geek: TRULY, thank you VERY much for the attempt but maybe I should have said "VERY Stupid".

You mean, you haven't understood everything ? No problem. What is it that you didn't understand ?

My last question then would be why use the "Video CD" option when "Super" is that much better?

Why bother with any of them ? DVD is better than both ;) At least, it can be.
There isn't a reason anymore to use VCD or SVCD really. In the past, a reason for VCD would be higher compatibility, as many old DVD players didn't play SVCD, but VCD. Also a VCD holds more footage than a good looking SVCD.

The Geek

robnyt
25th December 2004, 18:51
Originally posted by The Geek
1) You mean, you haven't understood everything ? No problem. What is it that you didn't understand ?


2) Why bother with any of them ? DVD is better than both ;) At least, it can be. There isn't a reason anymore to use VCD or SVCD really. In the past, a reason for VCD would be higher compatibility, as many old DVD players didn't play SVCD, but VCD. Also a VCD holds more footage than a good looking SVCD.

The Geek

1) What I don't understand would REALLY take too long to explain. Kind of like if I spoke Martian to you. Where would you start to try and bridge the gap?

2) I've just figured out how to use Nero to burn video files I've downloaded off the net (hope that's ok to say here. if not then I'm just kidding). Just want to make the best possible copies that I can and trying to figure out how to do that.

The Geek
25th December 2004, 19:14
1) Ah, I see

2) Well, that is not really easy. And by video clips do don't mean movies, right ?
So, you want to burn these video clips as a Video DVD to play it on a standalone ?

The Geek

robnyt
25th December 2004, 19:29
Well, that is not really easy. And by video clips do don't mean movies, right ? So, you want to burn these video clips as a Video DVD to play it on a standalone

***No, full movies are exactly what I'm making. Star Wars, Spiderman, etc.

The Geek
25th December 2004, 19:33
***No, full movies are exactly what I'm making. Star Wars, Spiderman, etc.

Then get the DVD.
It'll be way better than the crap you download. And without knowledge it's not possible to convert the internet crap to DVD without losing too much "quality".

And how come that you mention that here, and hope it's ok, although you know really well that it's not (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm) ?

The Geek

jggimi
25th December 2004, 19:53
Robynt, please read Rule #6 (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm), then read this announcement (http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?s=&forumid=6) that you obviously missed.

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