color problem

[SpaceV]

Hi guys,

I just encoded Shrek2 in VP6.2.6 (900kbit/s) after trying Xvid.
I just compared the first 5 minutes, especially the scene when
Prince Charming rides through the forest.

I think VP6.2.6 gets the best results with basically no tweaking, but now to my problem:

The colors are off, even when I play the VOBs !!
It looks like there is a "fog", the white is not white
the colors are not bright and they seem to be shifted in some direction.... its weird. I played with the Video settings in Windows Media player (Hue,Saturation,Contrast....) nothing helped.

I can only watch it in Zoom Player. The encoded VP6 looks like the
original DVD with great colors. I also tried Media Player Classic, does not work either.

So did anyone experience the same problem before?

I wonder what it is, I used Smartripper 2.41.
I encoded with DVDx2.3 after VDubMod had weired problems where the
video hung for up to half a second or so while the sound went on and they got out of sync. The colors where displayed ok though in VDubMod.

Good thing there is Zoom player absolutely no problems there watching the encoded file.

[SpaceV]

ok... somehow it works now with Windows Media player as well.

Must be the nVidia driver or something, not sure what changed though... I hate those things, when u dont know whats going on

[Mug Funky]

lack-of-contrast usually means it's outputting TV-scale luma range without compensating for it.

TVs upper limit is 235 (not 255), and lower limit is 16 (not 0). to correct this for PC playback, the luma range has to be scaled so 16 becomes 0, and 235 becomes 255.

however, working without correcting this can be useful on some occasions (camcorders often record outside the TV range anyway, and if you've got a slightly overexposed video it helps to be able to grab a little more detail out of the highs). of course, it's probably not needed for playback.

good to see it's working again... not sure what would have caused it.

[SpaceV]

ok, tried to watch some old encoded Friends episodes
and I got the same color problem with Windows Media player (10).

Then I tried Zoom Player and the colors were mormal. After that, I could use Windows Media Player to watch it with normal colors also.

If its the luma range then does Zoom player fix it? The Friends avi files play ok on my old computer without using Zoom player first.

Anybody seeing the same stuff?

I will try to post a screenshot

[Mug Funky]

hmm. what are you outputting with? VMR9 or 7? overlay mixer?

hardware overlay usually looks different to VMR9. also, different players default to different methods. i think WMP uses VMR7 under winXP, but i don't use either so i wouldn't know.

zoomplayer, media player classic, and any other half-decent player will allow you to change this.