BeLight 0.22 beta 8 released

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by Brother John
Exactly the two things I found today. Nothing else. I'm looking forward to 0.21 final not just being called but actually feeling and working as a final version. Good job, Kurtnoise13!
Yep...I prefer to fix all bugs before to launch a stable version. ;) BTW, the 2 issues listed above are fixed now.

Originally posted by Brother John
The changed Vorbis tab is nice. To make all the encoder tabs look even more consistent maybe intruduce a slider for AC3 and MP2, too?
You read in my thoughts, isn't it ?? :D Yes, I added a slider for AC3 and MP2. Concerning vorbis Q-Mode, I'm trying different things because when the slider is moved, the values chosen for q settings aren't very precise. We need to use the mouse or arrows keyboard to select the q wanted. So, I managed different things to find the best for you. ;)

[apeness]

Hi Kurtnoise13, I just downloaded Belight and wish to convert a 6ch AC3 file to the best quality WAV. I wish to have the same format as you would have when you rip the WAVs out from an audio CD.

There are 4 options under WAV.

1. 16 bits 5.1 Wav
2. 16 bits stereo Wav
3. 16 bits (Six)Mono Waves
4. 32 bits (Six)Mono Waves

which should I choose? What's the difference between each of them? Which is the format that is the same as what you would get when you rip the WAVs out from an audio CD?

as for the mode:

1. HybridGain
2. PostGain
3. PreGain

Which should I choose?

Thank you very much for this neat program.

[Kurtnoise]

Hi,

Originally posted by apeness
There are 4 options under WAV.

1. 16 bits 5.1 Wav
2. 16 bits stereo Wav
3. 16 bits (Six)Mono Waves
4. 32 bits (Six)Mono Waves

which should I choose?
It depends what you want to do exactly...

Originally posted by apeness
What's the difference between each of them?
1) To have a multichannel wav file (6 channels).
2) To have a stereo wav file (2 channels).
3) To have 6 mono wav files (1 file for each channels) but with a bits depth equals to 16. The same value as CD-A and DVD in general.
4) To have 6 mono wav files (1 file for each channels) but with a bits depth equals to 32.

Originally posted by apeness
Which is the format that is the same as what you would get when you rip the WAVs out from an audio CD?
Number 2. The only difference with CD-Audio can be the Sampling Rate. Most DVD have a Sampling Rate of 48 KHz whereas CD-Audio is 44,1 KHz.

Originally posted by apeness
as for the mode:

1. HybridGain
2. PostGain
3. PreGain

Which should I choose?
If you don't know what is it exactly, let it by default.

[daphy]

:( can´t save my setttings in belight -> maybe an error in the path settings (two back slash)?
http://img153.exs.cx/img153/8999/image15pm.jpg

[Kurtnoise]

Which version did you use ?

It seems to be an old bug...In the lastest betas, this function (load/save settings) has been removed.

[allclone]

I dont know if this is a format issue or a command line problem but when I try to convert a 160kbps 48khz mp2 file to a HE-AAC 40kbps down mixed to mono the speed is very slow. I think it is something I am not doing write but I do not know where ells to ask.

PS. Great GUI every thing ells works good as far as I can tell.

[Kurtnoise]

Yeah...some people have noticed the same buzz. Maybe it's a bug into bsn/besweet ?? I don't know really. I tested directly into Nero and all seems to be ok with it. If someone have an idea to help us...

[allclone]

Cool, thanks for the quick reply.

[blueberet]

Having problems converting ogg to WAV
The procedure entry point vorbis_sythesis_halfrate could not be located in the dynamic link library vorbis.dll

May have nothing to do with your excellent interface. Can you advise?

[Kurtnoise]

Hi,

1°) Which BeSweet release did you use ??
~~> Try this one (http://dspguru.notrace.dk/BeSweetv1.5b29.zip), and tell me what's happend.

2°) Which vorbis.dll do you have ??
~~> Try this one (http://www.rarewares.org/files/ogg/libvorbis1.1.0.zip) (Put it directly into BeLight/BeSweet folder).

[blueberet]

Updated both files. New error libmmd.dll not found. I'm obviously missing a few things

[Kurtnoise]

http://www.rarewares.org/files/libmmd8.1.zip :: put it also in the same folder.

[blueberet]

Thanks so much Kurtnoise13. It's transcoding now. I really appreciate you taking the extra time to get this working for me. Good luck with your projects!
Cheers :)

[m0rtal]

I'm back, sorry for the delay.
Well, in new version file overwriting diologue is still in french...

[allclone]

I dont know if this is a ISP/Router problem but I cannot get to corecodec.org so I can not download the newest release, if someone could tell me were I could find a nother source to get the newest build that would be great

Thanks

[SiXXGuNNZ]

Originally posted by allclone
I dont know if this is a ISP/Router problem but I cannot get to corecodec.org so I can not download the newest release, if someone could tell me were I could find a nother source to get the newest build that would be great

Thanks I have to use a proxy to get there, I guess my isp doesn't like that site for some reason

[Kurtnoise]

A link mirror (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/BeLight-0.21_beta3.zip)...But First, try again to download at CoreCodec.


in new version file overwriting diologue is still in french...
I knew that I missed something...:) It's corrected now.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
A link mirror (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/BeLight-0.21_beta3.zip)...But First, try again to download at CoreCodec.

I never had problems downloading your files at corecodec. The only thing that hits me was the hidden download button because of the high resolution on this website. Even @ 1024*768 it's out of reach, so you have to scroll to the right :D ;)
Mostly the problem arises with hidden referrers, so if everybody is turning their browsers to default, there should be no problems.
I tried it with an online proxy and software proxy too. No problem.

Thanks for your nice work. It is really appreciated.

Cheers

Taurus

[allclone]

I thought it might be somthing like that.

Thanks

[Kurtnoise]

0.21 stable release is now available (http://corecodec.org/projects/belight/). ;)

Changes from 0.20 :
- Added : VOB input files support.
- Added : Different Priorities for the process.
- Added : Overwrite asking if your output file is already in the output folder.
- Revisited : MP3 part according to Gabriel Bouvigne recommandations.
- Improved : Bitrate Management for Vorbis, AC3 and MP2 output formats.
- Fixed : lot of bugs.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
0.21 stable release is now available (http://corecodec.org/projects/belight/). ;)

Thanks a lot, Kurt.
Your work is very much appreciated.
Now we go bughunting again.;)

Cheers

Taurus

[filewalker]

thanks for the promised VOB input support! :)

If I have time , I'll test it.

Cu

[castellanos]

To Kurtnoise13
I've been using your program for a while, and I must say that it is really, really great: Congratulations!!
I've only one critic, and is not to you, but to the moderators: How is possible that this post is still not "Sticky" and still no direct link in the "download section" of this site, to download BeLight?
Greetings! ;)

[drob]

Kurt any chance you would make BeLight compatible with 800x600?

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by drob
Kurt any chance you would make BeLight compatible with 800x600?
mmmmh...I'll try but why do you like these low resolutions ? :D

[drob]

I just never liked the high resolutions, less means more :D

[martoQ]

Excellent work Kurt. I have been banging my head with BeSweetGUI for over a week now trying to get it to produce a clean VirtualDubMOD compatible file that I could mux in and had nothing but problems. Found your app, gave it a try and bang, worked like a champ.

I do have a question as I am in the process of converting roughly 20 streams from AC3 to MP3. I cannot seem to get batch mode to work. Am I missing something? When I click on ADD TO JOB QUEUE nothing happens. Further I didn't see any place to look at whats actually in the queue, etc. When I actually click start, it just process's the currently loaded AC3 and ignores anything that I "queued."

Am I just missing something simple?

[Bluedan]

I cannot seem to get batch mode to work. Am I missing something? When I click on ADD TO JOB QUEUE nothing happens.

It's not implemented yet.
Former versions had problems with that feature.
For this task I'm afraid you still have to use BeSweet GUI.

Anyway, it shouldn't be that tough to get BeSweet do what you want it to.
I guess you wanted to produce mp3 out of ac3 again?
If you are unsure which options to tick (though the tooltip balloons tell you quite enough) then stick to the presets shown in the right upper corner of the GUI.
Select one and go.

But yes, I second that batch feature in BeLight, too!! :D

[martoQ]

Unfortunately BeSweet would not produce proper MP3's. I tried AAC's and OOG's, unfortunately VirtualdubMOD is a bit picky. I don't want to post my encoding problems here, but if you would like to discuss it in PM I would be more than will to talk to you. To give you a quick idea, the MP3-WAVE are producing MP3's with the wrong audio stream lengthes. MP3 is will now compress with CBR, and the OOG's that are produced are not being read by VDM which I think is a bug as it just shows the audio stream as being 0 bytes, producing no audio.

Belight looks like it just passes the right tag's to BeSweet as its MP3's that get generated are clean and sync nicely.

So again kudo's Kurt.

And thank you for the batch response. At least I know I am not doing something foolish.

[Kurtnoise]

Heyyy boys,

Originally posted by Bluedan
But yes, I second that batch feature in BeLight, too!! :D

I work on it... ;)

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/belight_0.22b1.jpg

I hope to finish properly at the end of the week...So, be patient. :)

[martoQ]

Very sweet! Thank you!

[Bluedan]

Great.
Was just a bit worried you could have been caught away from this project by womens attraction, or so... :scared:

It looks promising!

And I like the audio file list, too!!

OT: Try Mirah - C'mon miracle on CD/LP

[section31]

Your GUI is darn pretty. Thanks. I love you.

[filewalker]

Now I played around with your nice GUI (Belight 0.21 stable).:)

I only loaded VOB files as input.

Now I wanna ask you if the following íssues are intentional:

1) If an AAC preset is selected, it's adopted in the CL and the quality of the bitrate in the "Bitrate Managmnent" but HE/LC AAC profiles aren't adopted in the AAC Nero Encoder options...it's a little bit confusing.

2) If the output-name is changed manually, and if I change the to another tab(AAC/AC3/MP2/MP3/Vorbis/WAV/PCM) the manual written outputname is deleted and is changed to the input name.

3) Concerning LFE, "Dialog NormalizationReduction" and "Normalize":
If I goto the advanced settings, deselect the "LFE to LR ch." box, press ok.(In the CL everthing looks ok)
If you press now one of the other tabs (AAC/AC3/MP2/MP3/Vorbis/WAV/PCM), the CL shows me that "LFE to LR ch." is activated.
If I look now in the advanced settings, I see that it's unselected!
I have to select and unselect it again, so that the CL is correct again.

The same bahaviour is for the 2 other azid settings:"Dialog NormalizationReduction","Normalize" and for Nero's HE/LC profiles.

4) If AAC tab is selected,
and in Advanced settings": Dialog NormalizationReduction" and "Normalize" and "output mode" is selected, and "LFE to LR ch." is unselected,

it happens now that if I select a HE/LC AAC profile (from drop down menue) or "PreGain", the CL shows me that:
"Normalize" is inactive
"LFE to LR ch." is active
"Dialog Normalization Reduction" is deactivated
("output mode" stays the same)



Cu filewalker

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by Bluedan
Was just a bit worried you could have been caught away from this project by womens attraction, or so... :scared:
Yes...fortunaly I've a real life. (job, girlfriend, some others hobbies...)

:cool:

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by filewalker
1) If an AAC preset is selected, it's adopted in the CL and the quality of the bitrate in the "Bitrate Managmnent" but HE/LC AAC profiles aren't adopted in the AAC Nero Encoder options...it's a little bit confusing.
With this version, I've decided to leave the users to set themselves the settings for the AAC tab. I think it's better as E-male has suggested in bsn thread. If you want to have the same profiles as Nero Encoder, use the different presets. ;)

Originally posted by filewalker

2) If the output-name is changed manually, and if I change the to another tab(AAC/AC3/MP2/MP3/Vorbis/WAV/PCM) the manual written outputname is deleted and is changed to the input name.

3) Concerning LFE, "Dialog NormalizationReduction" and "Normalize":
If I goto the advanced settings, deselect the "LFE to LR ch." box, press ok.(In the CL everthing looks ok)
If you press now one of the other tabs (AAC/AC3/MP2/MP3/Vorbis/WAV/PCM), the CL shows me that "LFE to LR ch." is activated.
If I look now in the advanced settings, I see that it's unselected!
I have to select and unselect it again, so that the CL is correct again.

The same bahaviour is for the 2 other azid settings:"Dialog NormalizationReduction","Normalize" and for Nero's HE/LC profiles.

4) If AAC tab is selected,
and in Advanced settings": Dialog NormalizationReduction" and "Normalize" and "output mode" is selected, and "LFE to LR ch." is unselected,

it happens now that if I select a HE/LC AAC profile (from drop down menue) or "PreGain", the CL shows me that:
"Normalize" is inactive
"LFE to LR ch." is active
"Dialog Normalization Reduction" is deactivated
("output mode" stays the same)
Yes, I know and It was not intentional. Sorry for these problems. I'll fix them.

[filewalker]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
With this version, I've decided to leave the users to set themselves the settings for the AAC tab. I think it's better as E-male has suggested in bsn thread. If you want to have the same profiles as Nero Encoder, use the different presets. ;)
I meant the Nero presets...I used the presets from the dropdown menue where the Nero presets are listed.

e.g.

I chose the Nero preset from drop down list: AAC-->LC-->"VBR/2,0 -Internet (90-100kbps)"
The CL shows me the chosen preset correctly:
bsn( -2ch -vbr_internet -codecquality_high -aacprofile_lc )

The "output channels" info is set correctly to "2channles"

and "Birate Mode/Quality" is also set correctly as chosen from the Nero preset to VBR mode: "internet" quality

Is it really intentional that only the AAC "Profile"( from AAC Nero Encoder options) isn't corrected and displays something what wasn't chosen from the Nero "presets"

This sounds not really logical for me...but it's your baby.


I have another question:
I activated "Output logfile", I encoded from the VOB file 3 streams, but I only got a logfile from 1 stream.
Any idea? The logfile has the same name as the input VOB file...maybe it can't be overwritten from the second and third logfile?

It would be beautiful if log file export could be handeled similiar to BeSweetGUI, one ongoing logfile called BeLight.log which contains all further logfiles from every stream.
What do you think?


Cu filewalker

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by filewalker
I chose the Nero preset from drop down list: AAC-->LC-->"VBR/2,0 -Internet (90-100kbps)"
The CL shows me the chosen preset correctly:
bsn( -2ch -vbr_internet -codecquality_high -aacprofile_lc )

The "output channels" info is set correctly to "2channles"

and "Birate Mode/Quality" is also set correctly as chosen from the Nero preset to VBR mode: "internet" quality

Is it really intentional that only the AAC "Profile"( from AAC Nero Encoder options) isn't corrected and displays something what wasn't chosen from the Nero "presets"
Ok...I see but this appears only on the interface, right ? The command line is correct. I forgot something for LC part. :o

Originally posted by filewalker
I have another question:
I activated "Output logfile", I encoded from the VOB file 3 streams, but I only got a logfile from 1 stream.
Any idea? The logfile has the same name as the input VOB file...maybe it can't be overwritten from the second and third logfile?
Yes, the log files are overwritten if the input files are the same name. I can change that to avoid the overwritting. ;)

Originally posted by filewalker
It would be beautiful if log file export could be handeled similiar to BeSweetGUI, one ongoing logfile called BeLight.log which contains all further logfiles from every stream.
What do you think?
It's expected. ;)

[filewalker]

Ok...I see but this appears only on the interface, right ? The command line is correct. I forgot something for LC part. Yes, only on the interface, CL is correct.


Cu

[Elias]

So why isn't AAC encoding working now? It worked last time, but it was kind of buggy because the file became 2 seconds longer than the original source. But it isn't working at all right now.

[Taurus]

Originally posted by Elias
So why isn't AAC encoding working now? It worked last time, but it was kind of buggy because the file became 2 seconds longer than the original source. But it isn't working at all right now.

Sure you use Belight 0.21?
I just did a quick test. Took a mp3 (44100)and encoded it with all available encoders. Everything worked like a charme. Same on an AC3 file. All switches on aac (mp4)tab are working for me. Maybe there is something messed up on your side. All correct *.dll's and *.exe's in your Besweet/BeLight folder? Playback Decoders are working? Is there any warning message or just nothing's happening.
Too little information for help....

Cheers

Taurus

[Elias]

Originally posted by Taurus
Sure you use Belight 0.21?
I just did a quick test. Took a mp3 (44100)and encoded it with all available encoders. Everything worked like a charme. Same on an AC3 file. All switches on aac (mp4)tab are working for me. Maybe there is something messed up on your side. All correct *.dll's and *.exe's in your Besweet/BeLight folder? Playback Decoders are working? Is there any warning message or just nothing's happening.
Too little information for help....

Cheers

Taurus Sorry, my fault there. I used BeLight with the BeSweet version that came with the latest GordianKnot package. I then used it with the latest BeSweet from Doom9 and it worked great. Easily my standard AAC encoder from now on.

[Elias]

Now Belight is AWESOME, but it's still somewhat buggy. For instance, when I choose AAC bitrate of 224 kbit CBR, the output becomes 192 kbit CBR. And when I choose 256 kbit CBR... well, it doesn't even work in Winamp anymore.

[OMINUS]

i have one weird problem
when i use the -belight+besweet combo- for ac3 to mp3 conversion i get 100%cpu overload
for the same process if i use the -gknot add audio job- with the advamced audio presettings i get no cpu overload
what causes it?

[Elias]

Originally posted by OMINUS
what causes it? BeLight :) Seriously, BeLight is very good, but still a new software. It has lots of bugs. But I'm going for it anyway! Keep up the good work fellas.

[filewalker]

if BeSweet is running...it'll mostly reach 100% CPU load during encoding....independently if you use BeSweet from Gknot or use BeSweetGUI or Belight.

if you want to be sure which settings are chosen from the Belight's interface, you only have to enable "View & edit BeSweet Commandline". Now you can check if every chosen setting is set correctly...without checking the comandline you have to believe that Belight is bugfree...and you have no possibilty to have control.

Cu

[Kurtnoise]

yeah filewalker is right concerning the cpu overload.


BTW, yes BeLight has several bugs but I try to make my best. :rolleyes: Like I said before, I'm not an expert in development. So, wait & see.

[Elias]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
yeah filewalker is right concerning the cpu overload.


BTW, yes BeLight has several bugs but I try to make my best. :rolleyes: Like I said before, I'm not an expert in development. So, wait & see. We're not complaining, just reporting so that you can improve this awesome GUI :)

[Taurus]

Originally posted by OMINUS
i have one weird problem
when i use the -belight+besweet combo- for ac3 to mp3 conversion i get 100%cpu overload
for the same process if i use the -gknot add audio job- with the advamced audio presettings i get no cpu overload
what causes it?

I just tested it: Both combos,Belight/Besweet and GKnot/Besweet are reaching 100% CPU load. And what does this mean "CPU overload"?
I'm a speed freak, if it was'nt 100%, I would force it to....:D
This is pretty normal behaviour for an encoder.

Cheers

Taurus

[rotflol]

Hi,

I've used BeLight quite a few times and I think it's a great app, but I have one problem (for now): tonight I decided to try out framerate conversion for the first time while encoding to MP3 from AC3. It was a minute but still noticeable change from 24.975 fps to 25 fps, which should produce about 5 seconds of difference in my test file. I entered the appropriate SoundTouch settings, but after the encoding was done, it turned out the duration of the file didn't change at all. Then I ran BeSweet GUI and noticed it uses OTA for framerate conversion. I set up the conversion, and the file turned out 5 seconds shorter, as expected.
I don't know if this is a bug report or a feature request, but maybe you should look into this, Kurtnoise.