Error #3 buffer overflow

[Whitespliff]

I've been using RB for a while now, did at least 50 movies with.
Now, since .65 I always get buffer overflow errors (rebuild fase).
With the previous movie I tried the special error function, this worked.
With this movie it doesn't help.

I use decrypter, then I use ReMake to edit the DVD.
I use these 2 programs every time I backup a movie so yes it has been edited before RB got started.

Is .65 more sensitive to errors then previous versions?
Am I the only one with this problem?

Tnx

[pg55555]

Just try to backup without pre-processing

[Whitespliff]

That wasn't really my question, I really hate those logo & warning screens so I always edit my movie before RB.

[pg55555]

I suggest no Pre-processing. You can always post-process to get rid of unwanted material.

[cmsoliveira]

You can still edit them.

just do it after the rebuild dvd is ready.

U can also use Rb-opt to oversize the dvd a little to compensate the size of the logos and warnings.

[Whitespliff]

Ok, I'll try that.
It's just, I never had problems before so I was wondering why I suddenly get errors.

Tnx

[cmsoliveira]

Sometimes it happens...

To me, never happened, but i always use the original source, without any pre-processing.

btw, i don't know if rb-opt will work with newer versions of rebuilder, because the introduction of ILVU...

Can anybody confirm this??

[pg55555]

RBOpt works ok with 0.65 and multiangle/ILVU sources. I havnt tried 0.66 but jdobbs and robot1 (RBOpt developer) said they should work together

[lamster]

Are you using CCE, Rejig, QuEnc?

[f@chance]

I also experience the same difficulties. Buffer Overflow 6 during the rebuild phase (Plain Vanilla US XP Pro installation with SP1). I have done about 50 at least never a problem. Do away with the opening warnings and the the advertisement of the company that is releasing the DVD if there is such. Tried version 63A and 64 both the same problem on the 3rd disk of Monterey Pop Festival Criterion Collection, the first two went fine. In this case though no Pre Processing because no warnings and Advertisements

I also use the same tools, DVD Shrink for ripping the DVD minus any unwanted sound tracks and than DVD Remake to hide the screens and any buttons that open certain sound tracks. In the Monterey disk 3 case straight forward rip no DVD Remake because I want everything but still after encoding with CCE 2.66 is finished and it now is copying the untouched material during the second pass it bombs out.

Very strange this one and I was just considering doing the VIP thingy.

F@Chance

[Whitespliff]

I use CCE.
I think it has to do with the latest version of ReMake, I posted a question on their forum (http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1236).
I tried the previous version of RM & RB worked without problems.
I'll update this thread if I got any answers.

[f@chance]

Thanks for your reply Whitespliff. You probably use the same methode, ripping with DVD Shrink, modification of the menus and nag screens with DVDRemake and than DVDRebuilder to do the final touch.

I did several of the Voyager season 3 DVDs and there are several 100 MB of sound tracks, Menus and so forth that make quite a difference in the bitrate when using DVD Rebuilder. Don't know about the Post process and the setting of a higher total value, but I am trying another approach today.

DVD Rip of Monterey Disk 3 7.28 GB than running DVDRebuilder with the default sector settings and see what it does. I used in the past a setting that would give 4.37 GB but don't know how that would affect the Overflow error.

F@Chance

[f@chance]

Just an additional thought, I did do a few disks with the latest Remake version but it did not through a hick-up. Perhaps the disk 3 of the Monterey POP festival is somewhat too complex.

Bummer if RB doesn't work any alternative besides Shrink or the other trancoding softwares? ANy other CCE sontware that will rebuild the DVD?

F@Chance

[Trahald]

RB was intended for complete backups off of the original dvd/image. spending time tracing down problems that are possibly caused by other software isnt time used wisely

[Whitespliff]

That's why I wrote my third post, to let people know that it's probably a ReMake error. RM & RB should be able to work together IMO, I use them all the time.

[f@chance]

Originally posted by Trahald
RB was intended for complete backups off of the original dvd/image. spending time tracing down problems that are possibly caused by other software isnt time used wisely

Well I just got home and again Buffer Overflow 6. Now this was a clean rip of VOBs and IFOs no other mods default INI file for RB, this rules out any other program interference.

This leaves two choices Either the rip needs to be an ISO image and not VOB and IFO files, (which is bad) or RB can't handle the Criterion Selection of Monterey POP festival disk 3 which is 7.28 GB. I had no problem with disk 1 and 2 which were less than 6 GB.

I guess that now leaves as the only other option the Big 3 because any transcoding is just too bad for this size of disk.

Can anyone else offer some help to get RB working with this disk, please.

One2Go

[pg55555]

f@chance
RB can't handle the Criterion Selection of Monterey POP festival disk 3 which is 7.28 GB.

This is certainly a possibility. Not related to the size ( I have processed successfully bigger DVDs) but to some particularity of this title.

To research other alternatives of finding a solution with RB, people at the forum would need more details about your problem, and of your setup, such as
- Versions of the software you are using
- Structure of the DVD (has multiangle/ILVU, size of the extras and of the menues, size of the audios)
- When the error occurrs
- Copy fo the log from the Prepare phase

Or, of course, if you are familiar with the Big3 and have the required sofware, just use it for this particular title.

[f@chance]

Originally posted by pg55555
f@chance
- Versions of the software you are using

I am using Version 0.64A the last public release.

- Structure of the DVD (has multiangle/ILVU, size of the extras and of the menues, size of the audios)

This has one audio track, also one comment audio track. Did not see that it was multiangle. Any suggestion how to provide an answer to the structure question?

- When the error occurrs

After the encode finish when it does it's magic VTS_01 is all menu VTS_2 is all the footage and it does two passes, copies all the IFO and BUP files the files that have not been changed and than has the error.

- Copy fo the log from the Prepare phase

I ticked the Special Error processing and the logging feature. It has all the information regarding the creation of the AVS and M2V files and than two lines regarding the copying of untouched files, but no further indication of what caused it. Is there anything else that I can do or provide to find out what causes this problem?

Or, of course, if you are familiar with the Big3 and have the required sofware, just use it for this particular title.

I tried this yesterday and the whole experience is daunting. Ran out of diskspace half way through the phase of demuxing in DoItFast4Ub after it consumed 24 GByte.

This is very difficult and time consuming to use this methode. I try to solve this problem with the help of the Doom community.

First thing is I will do the donation thingy to get the latest software. THis will happen as soon as PayPal has sorted their problems with the UK verification.

F@Chance

[TheSeeker]

I have recently been getting this error on the rebuild phase about 40 percent in using .66a, cce sp 2.67.00.23, avisynth 2.55, decrypter 3.5.10, dgdecode.dll, no preprocessing whatsoever. THe dvd is region 1 ntsc Kingdom hospital disc 2. Disc 1 worked flawlessly in rebuilder version .66. i had this issue so i switched to .66a. no change. I tried running it through dvd remake as that is the only thing different that i did with the first disc but didnt do with the second. That switched the error to an error 4 buffer overflow at about the same place. I did try using special error processing but that did nothing. Incidentally I DID get this to work once but the output was 3.87 gb so I didnt even look at it i just tossed it and tried again. Since then it has never sucessfully completed though. Im guessing its most likely either a really bad master/authoring job, or it was a bad rip with decrypter. Going to try reripping it. Would the detect mastering errors option in decrypter be usefull at all here? Maybe rip to iso? Something i noticed that is different than the first disc. The first disc had 3 episodes on it in two different vts's. This one has four episodes in one vts... Not sure that that makes any difference whatsoever but i want to supply as much info as possible. I dont have the ini or inf files handy because im at work but I could post them when I get home. This is the first dvd i have ever run across that has given me so much trouble. Would it be worth the time to give .64a a try? Any suggestions/comments would be much appreciated.. Thanks!!

EDIT: Also I AM using rb-opt to apply kvcd notch's custom matrice and to use cce's internal natural picture filter. But I dont think that could be the problem could it? I seem to remember jdobbs saying that at least the error #4 is a result of some issues with the streaming of source files not the compressed m2v's.

[VamPYR]

i'm getting "DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow.
Error #0003. Process must abort"
With 2 preprocessing dvd (using dvdremake pro 2.2) running RB064a,065,066a.CCE 2pass
Both stop at 86% and 96.2% rebuild phase.
i redo the project using a complete unmodified source (different movie. Cause i already deleted the original iso of the 2 preprocessing dvd). and i'm not getting any error #0003 with unmodified source. for what i remember is, i did using an early version of RB to encode those preprocessing dvd and never get error message (v0.56/0.57, cant remembered exactly.)
i rarely do preprocessing when using RB to do my backup, so this error is new to me :rolleyes:
thanks.

CCE SP 2.67.00.27
EclCCE 1.81
AviSynth 2.55
DGMPGDec 1012a

[jptheripper]

as far as i know i think rb (in cce settings) bawks on rb's still cells.. ie if you blanked the credits i think rb chokes on it.. I am looking into it

[pg55555]

f@chance

So you are using 0.64a and CCE SP 2.66 (retail or trial?). As you have completed successfully other backups with RB your setup should be OK.
Any suggestion how to provide an answer to the structure question?
I check it with Shrink in Full backup mode, with "No Compresion" seleced for all the parts. It will provide info about the size of menus, main movie and extras, how much is video and how much is audio, as well as the Titles for each. I complement with VOBBLANKER, which will tell as in which VTS is each Title, and besides it indicates also if there are more than one angle and where.
It has all the information regarding the creation of the AVS and M2V files and than two lines regarding the copying of untouched files, but no further indication of what caused it. Is there anything else that I can do or provide to find out what causes this problem?
Try running RB in the Three Click mode and run only the prepare phase. Post the content of the log window
This is very difficult and time consuming to use this methode
That's why DVD Rebuilder has such a big group of followers and fanatics (including me)
I try to solve this problem with the help of the Doom community.
"La esperanza es lo último que se pierde" (something as "Hope is the last thing to lose"):)

I have really no experience with Buffer Overflow #6 (crossing fingers) but as it happens during the rebuilding phase, maybe providing a modified source helps to avoid it. From your previous postings it appears to me you really do not care about menues. So, just as a try, I would suggest do a movie only backup with Shrink, with No Compression, and use this as the source for RB (my thinking goes that as Shrink will do a re-authoring, maybe it eliminates/change the thing is causing the error with RB)

[TheSeeker]

I just solved my issues with Kingdom Hospital. I was getting error 3's and I saw one error 4. But all I had to do was rerip it. I turned on the Detect mastering errors option on in decrypter though im not sure if that made a difference or not. I just reripped and redid the project and voila!! no issues at all.

[Whitespliff]

Tried the same movie with .67, same error (even with special error on).
Tried it again with .64, no problems so I'm starting to think it may be a RB issue.
Any solutions

[Whitespliff]

No more problems on with RB & ReMake.
It must have been bad DVD's :D

These 2 programs should be used together, best way to backup any disc.

[schumi77]

I'm also getting some buffer overflow errors when trying to rebuild a pre-processed DVD.

I'm trying to get rid of adds and unused menus from my .hack//SIGN Volume 5 DVD (Z2 FR) which represent around 1.5Gb.

When I blank non-wanted cells and vob-ids with dvdremake or vobblanker, i'm getting the #3 error during rebuild.

As most of the non-wanted stuff are located in the 1st VTS, the half D1 and other options like this, doesn't work.

I can't use Rb-Opt to leave untouched, the selected stuff and do some post-processing, because the oversize method don't go high enough.
An finally, the special processing error options doesn't work (for me).

If someone have a (good) idea ? >_<


PS : Rebuild on the unmodified DVD files doesn't bring any errors, so I supose that the rip is OK.

[pg55555]

schumi77

Set the "TargetSectors" settings in the Rebuilder.ini file to get the oversize output you nedd, so after posprocessing get into the DVD5 size.

If you do not know about TargetSectors, read the Thread about Setttings at the top of this forum, or you can try Rocka's Help files in www.DVD-RB.com

[schumi77]

It doesn't seem another way exist T_T (I was looking for pre-proccessing solutions because post-processing needs a few attempt to get the expected results).

So, I'll try this way. Thx

[bubbie]

I have the exact same problems with dvdrb when I pre-process it with dvdremake with the last 10+ dvd's and I never used to have this problem, I'm gonna try rb version 0.64a now to see if this helps, I'll get back when it's done.

//edit.

Nope, that didn't work, still getting error #0003 buffer overflow, should I try an even older version, like 0.5x ?

//edit2..

I've got it to work!

this is what I used before:

DVD-RB 0.69
dvdremake 2.6.2
CCE SP 2.67.00.27 retail
so this didn't work

This is what I use now:

DVD-RB 0.69
dvdremake 2.6.3
CCE SP trial + EclCCE 1.81

I did not use the 'special error processing' option.
and I don't know what made the difference, the new dvdremake or the trial version of CCE.


Hope this helps..

[schumi77]

I've tried each version from 64 (as it was said to work with previously) to 67 but the problem remains.

The only thing I havent tried yet, is to strip unwanted audio tracks (with dvdshrink for example) before blanking the vob-id/cells.
I don't know, maybe the program crash when it tried to remove or keep an audio track which doesn't exist anymore in the blanked cells (or maybe I'm totally wrong >_<).

It's worth to try n_n

[Alxemi]

uuops same error here.

Using dvddecrypter 3510, dvdremake pro 2.5.3, dvdrebuilder 0.67 and CCE SP Trial 2.67.00.67, rbopt 0.15b

It´s the third DVD of a pack (indiana jones) and the other two has no problems. In this case i remember i aborted the encode and then resumed it. I´ll try again with the same versions of everything but without the pause in the encoding and post here.

regards.

[jdobbs]

Does it work before running DVD Remake? I only make fixes for errors that are there when processing original discs (no preprocessing).

[eriksen76]

I have never had these problems when doing movies from scratch.

Only when pre-processing has messed something up.

/Eriksen76

[berndy2001]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Does it work before running DVD Remake? I only make fixes for errors that are there when processing original discs (no preprocessing).

i was shure you would say that. :cool:

I get the same error (never got it before). so i tried the completely unprocessed material (just ripped to hdd), and the error is still there.

Settings:
RB 0.70 with the new "No Compression"-Mode (tried with cce before)

if i deselect all audio streams in the related vts-file, all works fine. :confused:

[Alxemi]

more weird information to his problem:

I re-encoded everything with the same settings and programs versions (see my post above) WITHOUT pausing the encode and this time it worked perfectly, no errors at all.

What is the problem then? the pause? did you guys paused your encodes?

[eriksen76]

I have had no such problems with any of my encodes with 0.70

I have not changed any settings compared with previous versions

/Eriksen76

[XMEN3]

I'VE HAD THIS error in rebuild phase and looking at the log...
the rebuilder was jumping from segment 9 to 11...
so looking in the folfer i've discovered the segment 10 missed...
maybe a touch on the keyborad while encoding.....

[schumi77]

I've never paused or touch the keyboard during dvdrb processing (I launch it before going to bed, and its done by the morning).

I've not tried yet with the new version, and if it persist, I guess I can now use the "no-enconding" option to make the post processing easier to compute.

[schumi77]

despite many attempts with many configurations, it still doesn't work.
If I blank a least one PGC/CELL with VobBlanker, the error occurs.

So I'll make post processing again, but it's such a pain in the ass (7th attempt and still a wrong final size).

[jdobbs]

Does it work without blanking? If so -- it seems to indicate the problem is outside of DVD-RB. As for sizing errors... I have never had a single report of an oversize in a multipass CCE encode except when someone has manually changed the target size (making it larger).

[schumi77]

The problem rise only with preprocessing so vobblanker must be guilty.

The oversize problem that I mentionned is the result of my custom targetsize value because I need it to be larger than an usual DVD, in order to blank unwanted data (~1.6Gb), and still get a ~4.37Gb DVD.
But as the unwanted data are encoded/compress too, the final oversize is difficult to compute.
I'm trying to use RB-Opt to keep ~100% of these specific data and make it easier, but I don't understand why the final size is still the same despite changing the oversize.

Damn post-processing ;p

[Sir Didymus]

Originally posted by schumi77
despite many attempts with many configurations, it still doesn't work.
If I blank a least one PGC/CELL with VobBlanker, the error occurs.

So I'll make post processing again, but it's such a pain in the ass (7th attempt and still a wrong final size).

Hi schumi77. :)

7th attempt ? Well you should feel exausted isn'it ? :scared:

Are you adopting other options (i.e. Steal Space From Extras), making not straightforward the usage of the TargetSectors option in the process ?

Also I would recommend to blank your title just at the VTS level; doing this at the cell level makes very troublesome the job of DVD-RB. If (as I understand) you want to cut the ending titles of your DVD, did you consider instead the possibility of just encoding them at a very low bitrate ?

Cheers,
SD

[schumi77]

Hi Sir Didymus,

In fact, all the data I want to keep are located int the 1st VTS. I don't put the others in the input directory, and DVD-RB doesn't process them. So I don't check any options about Extras.

Actually, this is a DVD with several episode, and I want to get rid of openings, endings (which I don't need to watch each episode ^_^), trailers, warning, etc.
I know that I can encode them with extra low quality (with Rb-Opt) and remove PUO to skip them with remote control, but I want to make it well ... so here come the aspirin >_<

[pg55555]

In fact, all the data I want to keep are located int the 1st VTS. I don't put the others in the input directory, and DVD-RB doesn't process them. So I don't check any options about Extras.
Having only the VTS1 in your input directory, it is a working DVD? I mean, can you run it with a DVD player?

Remember, RB is a DVD backup utility, so it assumes a DVD compliant source which it re-author in the rebuilding process

[TheSeeker]

Originally posted by pg55555
Having only the VTS1 in your input directory, it is a working DVD? I mean, can you run it with a DVD player?

Remember, RB is a DVD backup utility, so it assumes a DVD compliant source which it re-author in the rebuilding process

I think this hits the nail right on the head. Your problem is that your having dvd rebuilder rebuild an incomplete dvd directory. Frankly Im surprised it even gets as far as the rebuild stage before crapping out. You will have better luck just taking the full dvd directory and running it through some other program to blank out all the extras that you dont want. THen taking the resulting files and running them through dvd rb.

EDIT: Im guessing the reason that it craps out on the rebuild stage is that the ifo's refer to all those vts's that are not in the source directory for dvd rb. So when the rebuild stage comes across a reference to those vts's in an ifo file then it says... HUH.. that doesnt exist...

[schumi77]

Yes the generated DVD is payable on a stand alone player.

After DVD-RB processing, I copy the original VTS in the output directory, and I either blank them or skip them whether I still need them or not (I still need the VTS2 because the logo of the company which is display when the DVD is launched is in it, but the VTS3 which only contains trailers, available from the bonus menu that I don't have any longer).
It gain some time not having DVD-RB re-encode them.

But my problem (Error #3 during rebuild phase) occurs only when I blank cells in the 1st VTS (which is the only one which need to be re-encoded) before I put it in DVD-RB.

I'm aware that DVD-RB couldn't correct bad the pre-processing done by vobblanker (I guess), but if someone has another solution which can determine the output size more accuratly ... I'll buy it ^_^

EDIT : Even if I let DVD-RB process the unwanted VTS (the 1st method I've used) the problem was still the same. So I haven't retry this one since then, but tonight I will ... maybe

[pg55555]

shumi77

I'm a little lost about what you are doing.:confused:

So this is what I understand

1) When you run RB on the ripped source without preprocesing, the result is Ok

2) When you do it on a source preprocessed with Vobblanker, you get an error #3 at the rebuild stage
But in this case your source it is not the completed pre-processed DVD but just the VTS1.

Just as a check, can you open the source directory of RB (case 2) with Shrink?

[schumi77]

In both case, the source is only the 1st VTS.

I haven't tried to open "the partial source" with DVDShrink, but I can't open it with Vobblanker or PGCEdit.

DVD-RB doesn't seems to care about that ... at least I think, since it works in case 1.

EDIT : I hope the edit was enough.

[Trahald]

@schumi77

please edit out the profanity out of your reply. thank you

[TheSeeker]

Just wondering if you had tried using IFOEdit to cut out the appropriate cell id's from vts 1. You would have to use VOBRator to view the contents of the cells so you know exactly what cell number to get rid of but then you can run it through IFOEdit and strip out unwanted cells from vts 1 and strip out audio if you want to. It may be worth a try if nothing else is working. Or worse comes to worse you use rb-opt and just lower the bitrate on the bonus feature cells to free up some bitrate for the main movie. That may be your only option, if you dont get the post processing to work.

[schumi77]

Thx to all of you, I have severals test to do (and also manual rebuild like said in the other thread related to #003 error).

I'll execute them and make a feeback here in a few days.

[schumi77]

It seems there is no need for further tests ^_^

The encoding and rebuilding from "full pre-processed source" was a succes (even without "special error processing" option checked).
Since I've switched to dvd-rb 0.74, I can't tell if it was a 0.72 error because encode and rebuild from a "partial non-pre-processed source" was also working before.

Finally, it was all my fault, so all my apologies.

Thx all of you for your help.

[schumi77]

when it's not the 003 it's the 004 >_<

I've pre-process a dvd with vobblanker (and even saved the project) and rebuild it with dvdrb. it has worked but were undersized so i tried another time.
but dvdrb, despite input directory was still the same input as before, dvd-rb said it already fit on a dvd (which obviously was wrong since it was 5.7Gb).
Closing the program or reboot didn't solved the problem so I re-did the pre-proccessing on the same ripped source, with the same vobblanker project, and rebuild it with only a greater targetSector. But now, I've got a 004 error during rebuild.

I've tried to do it again with "no compression" checked, but the error still rise.

If someone knows the solution, or if other elements are needed in order to give an explanation, don't hesitate to ask ^_^

[jdobbs]

If DVD-RB says it will fit... the odds are very high it will fit. Unless of course you've changed the "TargetSectors=nnnn" variable to a value that is greater than will actually fit on a DVD.

You say it was 5.7GB... how much audio will be removed?

Also -- as I've said many times... errors following preprocessing with other packages are not errors. Does the disc work without the preprocessing?

[schumi77]

No audio nor subtitle were removed, so at first, I though i've set the output directory of the 1st job, as the input for this one ... but that wasn't the case.
The new targetSector was 2264000 (it was the default value before).

Obviously, and as ever, dvd-rb perfectly works with no pre-processing done at all. I'm just trying to make it works with it (it's not a bug since dvdrb wasn't developed for that purpose).

The thing which surprised me, is that the job worked only once although this was the same vobblanker project (and the same source)

PS : I've just tried with "special error processing" checked, and the rebuild worked fine (with "no compression" setting). I'll try today with CCE 2.67 (+RbOpt) to be sure.

[schumi77]

Just works perfectly with special option checked, sorry for being a bother >_<