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Commander XJL
24th October 2004, 11:04
If Instant Copy has this ridiculous problem of wasting 300 to 600 meg by giving wrong file sizes, then how can it compare in quality to DVDShrink when DVDShrink gives perfect 4.35 gig DVD's? It seems like this is a vital waste of space when backing up a movie yet I hear people saying that Instant Copy gives overall better backups than DVDShrink

The Geek
24th October 2004, 11:39
Bitrate is important, but not everything.

You can see that easily with MPEG-2 encoders, too. Different Encoders give you different results, even with the same bitrate. Even the same encoder produces different results depending on the settings (fast encoding, slow encoding).

If bitrate was everything even Nero's crappy MPEG-2 encoder would be enough, and we wouldn't need something as great as ProCoder, CCE or TMPGEnc ;)

The Geek

MackemX
24th October 2004, 14:22
what you hear and what you see for yourself can be 2 completely different things ;)

it's best you try both as some say DVDShrink's better and some say IC is better. It's an endless loop with no answer due to many factors that can affect the person's final opinion :)

Commander XJL
25th October 2004, 01:43
From the comparisons I've made it doesn't seem like Instant Copy is the way to go, it takes much longer, wastes disk space by getting file sizes wrong, and quality is about the same. They both do a great job, but Shrink is faster and free, and it has more features.

ddlooping
25th October 2004, 16:34
Originally posted by Commander XJL
From the comparisons I've made it doesn't seem like Instant Copy is the way to go, it takes much longer, wastes disk space by getting file sizes wrong, and quality is about the same. They both do a great job, but Shrink is faster and free, and it has more features.
Hear, hear!! :D

Rockas
25th October 2004, 23:42
Yeah... try to make a full DVD backup of "2 fast 2 furious" (this is an example I can give you more like the last Peter Pan) with DVDShrink and post here your conclusions... I'd love to see you cry... :D

ddlooping
25th October 2004, 23:54
Why would we cry, Rockas? :rolleyes:

Rockas
26th October 2004, 00:04
In full movie backup you won't get more that 55% (using custom mode to lower all you can on menus and extras)

ddlooping
26th October 2004, 00:09
Well, I'd simply do a movie-only backup.
If I didn't like the resulting quality (testing on one chapter), I'd then use DVD2DVD-R or DVD Rebuilder with CCE basic.

I don't see any reason to cry. ;)

Well, maybe if I had to watch "2 Fast 2 Furious". :D

Rockas
26th October 2004, 00:42
Well, maybe if I had to watch "2 Fast 2 Furious".

You're completely right :D

My post was only to say that there are no better programs... only better uses according circumstances and objectives :)

keep it UP