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Zilwer
19th October 2004, 17:45
Does DVD Rebuilder encode the menus or do they leave it untouched, and if so is there a way to encode the menus in Numenu before encoding the rest?
Yours Zilwer
Sir Didymus
19th October 2004, 18:00
No, at least at this time.
Maybe in the future... ;)
In the meanwile, get a look at:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83476
And of course at the official NuMenu4U doom 9 forum, here...
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83706
By the way, a little bit OT, but thanks for your post, it was useful to remind me to get a look at that forum, where a new release of NuMenu4U is avalable since very little time...
Cheers,
SD
mrslacker
19th October 2004, 18:36
If you want to encode menus because some big extras have been snuck into the menu vobs, you can use jsoto's VobBlanker to remove the relevant cells in the menus. The newer versions now let you work with menu vobs.
lamster
19th October 2004, 19:34
I've used DVD-Shrink to shrink menus; can anyone comment about the relative advantages of using that as opposed to using NuMenu4U (as a preparatory step to encoding with Rebuilder)?
@Sir Didymus - the first thread you pointed at suggested creating an ISO image; that would be a step backwards for me, since I always use file mode.
wmansir
19th October 2004, 20:19
I use file mode too, so creating an ISO is a pain, but it's the only way NuMenu works.
As for NuMenu vs. DVD Shrink:
DVD Shrink:
Pros: File mode, 100% free, quick, easy to use/setup, works 100% of the time (for me)
Cons: Some menus come out looking just horrible
NuMenu:
Pros: Better quality on most discs, can almost always compress more at similar quality to DVD Shrink, strips unreferenced junk
Cons: No file mode, requires Scenarist, takes longer, doesn't always work.
If I bother to reduce a menu I usually give DVD Shrink a try first. If the quality isn't very good I try NuMenu. When I say NuMenu doesn't always work, that doesn't mean the output isn't usable, but I've had a few instances where the menu isn't recreated exactly (for example the Next button doesn't skip an transition clip).
Sir Didymus
20th October 2004, 09:50
Originally posted by lamster
...the first thread you pointed at suggested creating an ISO image; that would be a step backwards for me, since I always use file mode.
Me too. Infact it's pain also for me to use ISO's...
As Wmansir reported it's the manner NuMenu4U works...
The approach I use is generally driven from the menu size more than from the quality (and maybe this is wrong in some way)...
When I see the menu is something ~300MB or more, I start looking if it contains unreferenced stuff that can be stripped away... If the menu is big and used, I try NuMenu4U...
Its advantages and drawbacks have been clearily stated in the Wmansir post...
Edit: I am using the term "unreferenced stuffs" in an improper meaning: the material that could be stripped from a menu can be more general; for example it could be also relative to foreign languages menus, that have a big relevance in the original title, but that may have no sense in the backup IF YOU USE TO STRIP AWAY THESE LANGUAGES...
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