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Hillclimber
11th October 2004, 18:45
Gentlemen,
This is my first posting - I hope I've done it correctly.

I have a problem importing an audio/video file from DVD into my NLE package. Much scanning of your excellent forum and guides has not shown me the light. Any guidance you can give would be most gratefully received.

I'm running Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 on a P4 3GHz Prescott machine with 1GB of RAM, oodles of HDD space and Matrox RT.X10 Xtra. Capture and edit of DV material from camcorder is fine.

The basic problem is this: when transferred to the Premiere Pro timeline the video clip shows coloured striations in the poster frame; the audio is good. When I try to review the timeline in the Programme (Sequence) Monitor the clock runs but the display is black or coloured noise, good audio.

Now for all the details:

Recently I bought a commercially produced DVD (PAL) and want to use about one minute of that in Premiere Pro, for my personal use only. I can get that one minute of VOB onto my HDD using DVD Decrypter (IFO mode with stream information, one cell of one chapter).
The log tells me
"Source Media Type: DVD-R",
"Source Copyright Protection Scheme: None" and
"Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes".
In my VIDEO_TS folder I get
a 34MB VOB file called VTS_01_PGC_01_1,
a file called VTS_01_0.IFO, and
VTS_01_PGC_01 - Stream Information.
I can open and play the VOB file with PowerDVD; the video and audio are good. The on-screen details tell me that the video is MPEG-2 and the audio is Dolby Digital 2.0 256kbps.

Now the VOB file must be converted to .avi in order for Premiere Pro to be able to use it, so, using AutoGK 1.60 I convert the input file VTS_01_PGC_01_1.VOB into the output file VTS_01_PGC_01_1.avi.
The AutoGK window tells me "Unknown Audio" so after some experimentation in Advanced Settings I "force" the audio to CBR MP3 256kbps. Other Advanced settings are XviD codec and Maximum width 720. The Output Size is selected at the default 1400MB.
Having converted, now in my VIDEO_TS folder I get the additional:
agk_tmp folder, the VTS_01_PGC_01_1_agk log, and
the file VTS_01_PGC_01_1 which is described as "Video Clip", not .avi, size 59.1 MB.
(If I select Target Quality of 80% the file size is 40.9MB.)

I can open and play, perfectly, that Video Clip in Windows Media Player and I can import it into Premiere Pro Project window where it is listed as VTS_01_PGC_01_1.avi, of type Movie, 25fps, 720x544, audio 48kHz compressed stereo. I can open the file in the Source Monitor and play it with audio, also in the thumbnail (the first frame is always black in the thumbnail but not in the monitor).

However, when transferred to the Premiere Pro timeline the video clip shows coloured striations in the poster frame; the audio is good. When I try to review the timeline in the Programme (Sequence) Monitor the clock runs but the display is black or coloured noise, good audio.

What am I doing wrong?
With thanks in anticipation,
Hillclimber.

killingspree
12th October 2004, 15:51
Originally posted by Hillclimber
coloured striations

hi and welcome to the forum,
your post has been great, but unfortunately i have a little trouble picturing what you mean by "coloured striations". so could you please provide a screenshot...

also, as a side note, when you just want to import dvd video in Premiere pro, compressing it with AutoGK is not the ideal solution (perhaps pretty much the easiest, although) since you reduce the quality of the video by compressing it with the lossy mpeg4 codec!

i personally would "simply" create a short avisynth script and convert this into a dummy avi file that premiere can read with ffdshow. for details on this method, you might want to search the forum, as this has been discussed quite often! :)

a little bit easier, but a lot more hd space consuming, would be to 'decompress' the video stream to huffyuv (=lossless video codec) - and also decompress the audio to wav - afterwards, mux the video and audio stream and import the resulting avi in premiere.

this just as a side note though, as you can of course also use this method :)

hth
steVe

Hillclimber
12th October 2004, 23:01
Many thanks for the rapid reply.
The striations are like bands of coloured noise as if TV line and/or frame lock were out, but only over the lower half of the frame. They come and go, sometimes the window is black.
Now I'm in real trouble - I don't know how to attach a screen shot to this post. I've got a screen print into a PowerPoint file, but how to attach it? Hopefully this will work .....

C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\DV & NLE\PremPro screenshot.ppt

Fingers crossed,
Neil.

killingspree
13th October 2004, 08:17
leave it out of the power point file... just attach the image itself... you can use the attach file dialog below the field where you can enter a new post...

the [ img] ... [/ img] tags only work with urls...

Hillclimber
13th October 2004, 13:47
Screenshot attached - JPEG Image, 58kB.

In order to be able to import the .avi file into PremPro I have to force the audio to CBR MP3 in AutoGK and the file loads quickly. Otherwise, with the audio Auto setting, I get the little "Loading Files" window but no activity, no file transfer. Hope this makes sense to somebody - I'm stumped.

Neil.

Hillclimber
13th October 2004, 14:42
No attachment, don't know why :(
Following killingspree's recommendation "...you can use the attach file dialog below the field where you can enter a new post...".

Trying again with a .gif file this time, 70kB.

No, the Post Preview has no attachment.
Is there a timeout on the upload?
Help?

killingspree
13th October 2004, 15:42
no... i have to validate attachments before they can be viewed in the forum... which i have done now... more later...

Hillclimber
13th October 2004, 16:24
My apologies - it's there in the rules.
I'll read them again, and again.
Neil.

Hillclimber
29th October 2004, 18:32
At last I've got to grips with this, having taken the advice of killingspree, for which many thanks.

Key components used:
PremierAVS plugin for Adobe PremierePro 1.5 so that it can read AviSynth scripts, DGIndex and DGDecode, AviSynth and VirtualDubMod with huffyuv all provide good quality audio and video multiplexed for import into PremierePro.

Thank you for the help of this forum and its Guides. :D

Onwards and upwards,
Neil.