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starion69
10th October 2004, 11:47
Hi all

What I would like is to change text in some buttoms feks
in the subtitle menu I would like to replace "French" with
"Danish" so it fits wiht custom subs that has been added to
a R1 DVD.
Is that possible in anyway ? Is there a guide ?

Thanks a lot

Starion

cona812
10th October 2004, 18:26
If you have stillmenus it's only picture editing with Photoshop etc. Motionmenus are more difficult. If you have clean backgroung you can try to overlay the parts with the new button, if not :scared::confused:.
The subs has to be changed aswell using Photoshop etc.

Cona

Msc_Alex
12th October 2004, 09:48
it's only picture editing with Photoshop
I think it involves a little more the just Photoshop:D

cona812
12th October 2004, 16:55
I think it involves a little more the just PhotoshopOk... you have to reauthor, i thought that was clear.

Msc_Alex
12th October 2004, 20:30
Originally posted by cona812
Ok... you have to reauthor, i thought that was clear.
no you don't have too. You can demux->edit->remux->ifoupdate
without reauthor.
You only need Paint vobedit ifoedit and a program that turns bmp2m2v like tmpgenc.
It's like
take the menu vob, demux with vobedit, find menu and save screenshot, edit screenshot, bmp->m2v, remux m2v with vobedit and join the menu vobs with vobedit. Ifoedit to update struckture and ready.

It's a bit hard to explain without picturs, i could post a guide if you like.

starion69
12th October 2004, 22:13
Would be nice

Thanks

Msc_Alex
13th October 2004, 10:26
I had the same problem with my 4 dvd collection of Alien from China, which didn't have dutch subs.
From the doom9 guides I learned how to remux dutch subs and recreate the dvd, but the only thing that wasn't right was the sub menu.

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/481/orgineel_menu.gif

I only wanted english 5.1 surround and dutch subtitles, so it had to become this:

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/5002/New_menu.gif

Programs used:

Vobedit (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Vobtools/Vobedit06.zip)
Ifoedit (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Vobtools/Ifoedit0971.zip)
DGmpgdec (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Decoders/dgmpgdec1012a.zip) (old dvd2avi)
Tmpenc (http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_download.html) (30 days free) or the free DVDAutorGUI (http://www.videohelp.com/~liquid217/dvdauthorgui.pl)

Steps I followed:
1 RIP dvd to Hard disk in file mode
2 Strip the menu in Cell ID¡¦s
3 Rip the menu to BMP
4 Convert BMP to m2v with Tmpgenc or DVDAutorGUI
5 Remux new menu to old cell
6 Remux menu cells back together
7 Put back in original structure
8 Correct Ifo's

1 RIP dvd to Hard disk in file mode

http://www.doom9.org/dvddec-fullrip.htm
Rip the dvd to HD in file mode, you get something like this

C: DVD\VIDEO_TS

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.VOB 110'464'232
VTS_01_1.VOB 1'073'643'520
VTS_01_2.VOB 1'073'631'232
etc..

2 Strip the menu in Cell ID's

In this dvd VTS_01_0.VOB is the vob that contains the menu. Create a new folder and call is "Menu".
Copy VTS_01_0.VOB in sub folder "Menu"
In this sub folder "Menu" create another subfolder called "Vobs".
(1) Open the VTS_01_0.VOB in subfolder "Menu" with Vobedit then select (2) demux and (3) Cellid.

http://img49.exs.cx/img49/5396/Vobedit_1.gif


Then "OK" and as destination choose the (double click) "Vobs" folder.
Close Vobedit when ready. In the subfolder "Vobs" are now the striped menu vob's by cell ID.

http://img40.exs.cx/img40/4025/Vobjes.gif


One of these vobs contains my static subtitlemenu.


3 Rip the menu to BMP
You can use DGindex (the old version of "dvd2avi" will also work) to open these vobs one by one to fined your menu. In this case it's in VTS_01_013.VOB only 157 kb (when there is no audio these menu's are very small)

In DGindex select File -> save BMP
Or when using dvd2avi select -> Video -> Color Space -> RGB
and Video -> YUV->RGB->PC Scale
then Options -> save BMP (dvd2avi puts the bmp in its own directory)

Save this BMP in the "Menu" folder as Menu_org.bmp
Now you can edit the menu with paint or what ever picture editor you like.

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/5002/New_menu.gif

And save it as New_menu.BMP


4 Convert BMP to m2v with Tmpgenc

(1) Open the New_menu.bmp with Tmpgenc
http://img40.exs.cx/img40/18/Tmpgen.gif
(2) Then select "load" and sub dir template, then choose the dvd_pal_.mcf/dvd_ntsc_.mcf template (depending if you have a pal or ntsc dvd)
(3) To choose "Video only" you have to unlock this template by selecting load again and loading the "unlock.mcf".
(4) Then select "Video only" now Tmpgenc will create a m2v file. To improve the m2v quality hit "Configure" and at ->Rate control mode: click "settings" and move the slider to 100%. Hit Ok 2 times
(5) Select as output dir "Menu" (I know picture isn't completely right)
(6) Encode
(I wise there was a free easy tool that could do bmp2m2v )
EDIT: There is thanks M7s, DVDAutorGUI now it can convert a jpg or
bmp to a still m2v. Just select menus->create m2v still


5 Remux new menu to old cell

Open the original cell, in my case VTS_01_013.VOB with vobedit

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/9031/Vobedit_2.gif

Select edit -> Remux m2v
Go to the "Menu" folder and select New_menu.m2v
(1) then at "Save As" select a folder higher, the "Menu" folder as output (bug with overwriting)
(2) Than Save
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/7830/Vobedit_3.gif
Close Vobedit (Bug with reopen)

6 Remux menu cells back together

Remove/Delete the VTS_01_013.VOB from the "Vobs" Folder and move the New VTS_01_013.VOB from the "Menu" folder to the "Vobs" folder.
Start up Vobedit again and select the First menu vob VTS_01_000.VOB
Then select Edit -> Join CellVob files
http://img29.exs.cx/img29/3527/Vobedit_4.gif
Save as VTS_01_1.VOB and save, the new menu's vob will be save now in the "Vobs" folder.


7 Put back in original structure

Remove the original VTS_01_0.VOB from the VIDEO_TS folder (original menu)
Rename the new menu Vts_01_1.VOB from the "Vobs" folder to VTS_01_0.VOB and move it to the VIDEO_TS folder.

8 Correct Ifo's

The next part was already very well written by dimad (maker of menuedit) here http://menuedit.dimad.net/ht_me_update_ifo.html

1 Startup Ifoedit and open VTS_01_0.IFO (the ifo connected to the menu (01))
2 Click "Menu Extras"

http://img74.exs.cx/img74/7135/ifoedit1.gif

Make sure you have these items selected

http://img41.exs.cx/img41/7503/ifoedit2.gif

At (4) select the destination of the new ifo/bup files (for example one folder above the VIDEO_TS folder.

(6)OK
(7) Make sure u select Check All

http://img25.exs.cx/img25/3418/ifoedit3.gif

(8) Check Correct Ifo tables
(9) Strip it

Copy the new files into your VIDEO_TS folder overwrite the old ones

Almost ready, open ifoedit and open the new VTS_01_0.ifo in the VIDEO_TS folder.
Select "Get VTS Sectors" and click Yes and OK until ifoedit is ready, then quit.

Now it should work, if you like to remove the unused submenu buttons you can use the free version of menuedit.
note: the overlaybitmap will not be chanced so I'am hoping you don't have text there.

starion69
14th October 2004, 10:54
Thanks a lot

Will giv it at try this weekend

starion69
17th October 2004, 00:53
Thanks a lot for a working guide.


GREAT :o)

blutach
10th December 2004, 12:25
Yes, damn good Alex.

There is a free way of converting BMP to M2V.

1. Use BlankVOB to make a 1 cell blank (VOB/Cell ID 1/1)
2. Use IfoEdit to Create IFOs based on this VOB
3. Open the newly created "DVD" in DVD Shrink and insert the still image of the (modified) BMP instead of the blank title 1
4. Process the project in DVD Shrink
5. Demux the resultant VOB with VobEdit

Thanks to 2COOL for this methodology

M7S
16th December 2004, 16:49
Another free and maybe easier way to convert bmp to mv2 is to convert to jpeg first (if you know how to edit your bmp file you know how to save as jpeg, as long as you don't use MS Paint :p). Then use DVDAuthorGUI (http://www.videohelp.com/~liquid217/dvdauthorgui.pl) to convert jpeg to mv2 (by choosing menues/create mv2 still or simply clicking ctrl+s).

Kiskakas
10th January 2005, 12:10
Fist of all thank you Msc_Alex for this guide.

I was looking for it since ages.

There is only one problem that I have experienced, and I am not sure if anyone else had it before.

I just do exactly what Msc_Alex explained. But When I watch the DVD on 4:3 television (or I set my player to 4:3) the buttons are not appear at the right place. And if I watch it on a 16:9 TV set (as I have both 16:9 and 4:3 TV) all the buttons are at the right place.

What could cause the problem?

I hope somebody knows the answare.

Thanks!

Msc_Alex
10th January 2005, 20:45
not sure but check this:
ah first you have to check if your menu is 4:3 or 16:9.
When encoding from bmp 2 m2v check the corect flag 4:3 or 16:9
you could use restream on the m2v to chance the flag.
try it :)

ivanova
11th January 2005, 00:32
I managed to remove a button and change the menu using the methods above, and menuedit.

But Now I want to add a button to a menu. Menuedit worked, but how do I get the button to highlight when it is selected?

Msc_Alex
11th January 2005, 14:39
You can't (not easy) add a highlight because it's the sub that is mixed in the vob. I normaly re-use a button, remove the text (in the bmp) and put my own text there. Then with menuedit or vodedit you can chance the command.

sesko
16th March 2005, 06:13
i did all that.

Can someboady please tell me how to edit button now
I have slovenian language subtitles on second place and i want that the button will shown on it.
Any guide how to do that?


please help

Msc_Alex
17th March 2005, 12:10
With the trail version of menuedit you can find the menu (you will only see blocks) and select the subtitle button you made. Then select edit (here you can see the command) Check the commands of the other buttons and then adjust the command so that your sub stream is selected.

sesko
17th March 2005, 21:02
how do you make very good quality m2v files from bmp.
When i make it with tmpgenc and DvdAuthorGui there are a little bit messy, there are not that good quality like bmp was.

lark
30th March 2005, 15:19
how about using muxman & pgcedit?
regards
t :)

Msc_Alex
30th March 2005, 15:30
Yes but there is a problem if you have a 16:9 menu, currently muxman
will mix it to 4:3. But from the tests I did with Tmpg, dvdauthorgui, mklogo and Muxman, Muxman was the winner ! :) You must try to avoid Hard lines in your menu, I make them a little fuzzy and they look better.
(ps Vobedit would work just as easy for the demuxing)
pps you could use restream to chance the flag to 16:9

sesko
3rd April 2005, 22:03
anybody knows how to change button if movie is behind button, motion menu??

Msc_Alex
4th April 2005, 00:31
Try this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=632897&highlight=time+and+persistance#post632897).

sesko
4th April 2005, 18:33
i try with adobe premiere. When i play mv file in MPC movie is long for about 50 second, altought it's writes down in MPC only 8 second.
And then when i add m2v movie toa dobe it recognize only 8 seconds.
Anybody knows for any solution???


and could someone please tell me how do i know if movie behind buttons is 4:3 or 16:9, i have no idea, becuase one program opens it like 4:3 and one like 16:9

blutach
12th April 2005, 23:30
Originally posted by sesko
and could someone please tell me how do i know if movie behind buttons is 4:3 or 16:9, i have no idea, becuase one program opens it like 4:3 and one like 16:9 Before muxing go into PgcEdit or IfoEdit and look at the video attributes and write them down (e.g 16:9 automatic letterboxed).

Regards

sesko
10th May 2005, 14:19
i have a new problem now, i have menu and i changed backroun that writes from english to sloevene, but its a problem that when you highligt the button it writes english(if you go to the button) over slovene.

If is possible to change hihgliht of button?

violao
10th May 2005, 15:18
With the right tools you can do almost anything, but the time and effort involved might be substantial. For example on my first dvd backup I did button repositioning that involved changing background, moving higlight and select images, rebuilding menus and reauthor everything with dvdauthor. I did it for learning purposes only and wouldn't do it again.

Basically you'll need to rip subpictures (button shapes) from your menu vob. You can do this with Subrip and save them to disk as bitmaps. Then you can load bitmaps in your prefered graphics editor and do with them whatever you like. Once you have your new bitmaps comes the tricky part. You need to rebuild everything back. That includes background m2v, probably audio and subpictures with button coordinates, shapes and commands. dvdauthor approach is very time consuming.

sesko
10th May 2005, 15:43
yes i know but where i find shapes? i remux menu with vobedit by cell id but i cannot find shapes(this are higlighted pistures that you told, when you go on the vutton and the button change colour-text) anywhere

Msc_Alex
10th May 2005, 15:43
Try this . (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=648099&highlight=dutch#post648099)

sesko
10th May 2005, 15:55
hm i dont understand this guide, its not in english:D

ok i manage to do new button, but i dont know how to highlight it
plase give me a clue

lark
10th May 2005, 16:01
i think the key over there is that you need maestro. perhaps whatever a bit advanced dvd authoring proggy would do...

regards
t :)

sesko
10th May 2005, 16:04
hm i hoped that will be something like edit button, that you just change picture and muxed it back to menu like in buttons only

lark
10th May 2005, 16:34
i don't think so. most probably you need to edit the button highlights (subpicture stream) and obviously mux it back...

regards
t :)

sesko
10th May 2005, 16:51
yes but how do i get subpicture stream(highlight) from menu? i cant find it

lark
10th May 2005, 17:06
at least subrip should be able to rip them into bmp.

regards
t :)

sesko
10th May 2005, 17:59
i dont know if we think the same thing

violao could you please tell me how to change highlited button

i know how to change backround

violao
10th May 2005, 19:55
Subrip, open VOB and load your menu cell. Choose Save Subpictures As BMP and rip your menu. What you get are your menu highlight/select images.

sesko
10th May 2005, 20:06
how do i save subpicture back to menu, when i edit it

i need only that now and i will finish:)

violao
10th May 2005, 23:06
Sorry, but I don't know any simple way, like remux m2v with Vobedit. The problem is your bitmaps are not yet subpicture once you edit them. You need some authoring SW to reconstruct the menu. I used dvdauthor but that's too complicated to explain in forum. Try man pages and examples. Basically you supply your bitmaps and multiplexed mpeg video (m2v+audio) to spumux command utility along with xml description file where you define button coordinates and author with dvdauthor command using another xml file where you can define button commands. Perhaps you could only use spumux and then use another menu editor to define commands.

roux
10th May 2005, 23:41
Mux with dvdmaestro a new menu vob (subp. + background + sound), make a least one button or menuedit/dvdrm gives problems.
Use menuedit or dvdremake's replace option to replace the new vob with the old one.

Longinus
11th May 2005, 01:44
Very nice guide Msc_Alex.
But I think a easier way to put the final vob back together, instead of step 6, 7 and 8, is to use vobBlanker! You just need to find the menu and cell of the target menu, and than use the replace button to select the new vob you created in step 5.

sesko
11th May 2005, 13:03
its good that are dutc to english translators on the internet.
i translate quide and i manage to highlight button.

tnx for all help and guide


i did everything like is said in guide, but then when i go to the button it dont highligt it ok

I think that is because subpicture streams on dvd are red, but dvd maestro makes new subpicture stream blue color. I see thath when i go ripping it with subrip.

Anybody got any solutions??

lark
13th May 2005, 16:24
have you tried to change the colors (e.g. with pgcedit)?
regards
t :)

sesko
13th May 2005, 18:09
yes i tried, i gave the same colours like are on original

i found out that highlight whole button, but it should highlight just text. anybody knows what could be wrong??

lark
14th May 2005, 10:01
what's you subpicture like?
does it have a highlight rectangle (about the size of the button)
or just the text?

regards
t :)

Faxe
17th July 2005, 10:18
Hi..

Nice guide :D I have used the guide a while, but when the dvd has more than 2 pgc's it never works. And then I have to make the dvd without menu. At the moment I'm sitting with a dvd with 123 pgc's, and I know by experience that it will never work :(

Is there a way to remove the "empty pgc's". Because most of them are only 1-3 seconds long.

Thanks in advance.

/Faxe

Faxe
10th August 2005, 18:18
*bump*

Dimad
11th August 2005, 14:43
There is another way to change menu background. It does not require complete menu reauthoring: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98280

tedybear
31st August 2005, 21:51
What about DVD REMAKE PRO 2.6 guys ????

Any chance to edit the button there ???????

tedybear
31st August 2005, 21:53
Hi..

Nice guide :D I have used the guide a while, but when the dvd has more than 2 pgc's it never works. And then I have to make the dvd without menu. At the moment I'm sitting with a dvd with 123 pgc's, and I know by experience that it will never work :(

Is there a way to remove the "empty pgc's". Because most of them are only 1-3 seconds long.

Thanks in advance.

/Faxe

here faxe ;)

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=275603

Msc_Alex
31st August 2005, 22:32
What about DVD REMAKE PRO 2.6 guys ????


No freeware but Dimad put a lot of time and work in it, I think it is a good investment, still has to learn encoding ;)

Any chance to edit the button there ???????

check this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=702040#post702040)

tedybear
31st August 2005, 22:40
Alex: there must be some easier way ;)

goonix
3rd September 2005, 02:10
This is more easy: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99306
Don't be afraid about the count of steps that are necessary. If you have managed it one time, you need only a few minutes to do it again.

Currently only for 4:3 menus.
Mini-guide for widescreen (16:9) menus will be finished soon.

goonix

tedybear
10th September 2005, 19:49
what about dynamic menus like STAR WARS 1-2 ??????

borry
12th September 2005, 21:58
dynamic menu:
create a m2v of the menu with vobedit.
Make a new button with any bitmapeditor.
open your m2v with virtual-dub mpeg.
goto filters - add logo ,open your new button bitmap and move it into position.
save your new movie as an uncompressed avi.
convert your avi into a m2v.

place the new m2v back in your menu with msc alex guide.

a guide (in dutch) for editing motion menu in adobe premiere
http://www.forum.doom9.nl/viewtopic.php?t=2899

The virtual dub way (in dutch)
http://www.forum.doom9.nl/viewtopic.php?t=3088

tedybear
12th September 2005, 22:58
damn dunno dutch :(

Msc_Alex
13th September 2005, 14:02
:D Think you should freshen up your English borry then make a German and French version too.. :D as finishing touch god created the Dutch :)

borry
13th September 2005, 18:42
Creating a new motion menu with adobe premiere



Step 1

Make a screenshot of the menu you wish to change.
( use menuedit,dvdremake,virtualdub,dgmpgdec etc)
And open that image in adobe photoshop

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/2715/image0011xb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Create a new layer in Photoshop and a new button on that layer

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/6133/image0030bf.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

(extra knop means extra button in dutch) :)

Delete the backgroundlayer in photoshop.
(only keep the new layer and the new button)
And save this project in photoshop format (.psd)

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/2065/image0057eg.jpg

Now you have a transparent page with a new button at the right place.

STEP 2

Extract the menu with vobedit (.M2V file)
Import the .m2v in adobe premiere pro.
And drag the .m2v file to the first videoline (video1)

Import the .psd file and drag it to videoline 2 (video2)
(Adobe premiere pro will ask you which layer to use......layer 1 is the layer with the button).

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/1614/image0079un.jpg

@1 is the new button
@2 is the menu .m2v

move the new button (psd file) over the time line to the right start position and adjust the duration (right mouse button -->duration)

File --> export --> adobe media encoder ,creates a new .m2v file.

You can mux the new .m2v in your menu with msc Alex guide.

!! the newly created .m2v shouldn`t be larger then the filesize of the .m2v extracted from the menu !!.

nukec
13th September 2005, 21:44
hello. can u please write in english tutorial with virtual dub :P i think it's much easier than adobe premiere ;) thanks mate

borry
14th September 2005, 11:21
Creating a motion with virtual dub.

Used programs:

-VirtualDub_MPEG
-Vobedit
-bitmapeditor.
-a mpg encoder (CCE,TMPgenc,HCenc,Quenc....)

-Create a M2V of the menu you wish to change with vobedit.
-Load the m2v into virtualdub,move to the timeposition in the menu which you wish to altern (frame) and copy that image to your clipboard (ctrl+1)
-Open the image in your bitmapeditor and created a new button.
-Cut out the new button and save it as JPG,BMP of TGA.
-Return to Vdub and open Video/filter/add/logo .
-Load your new button image
-with help of the preview function and the X and Y coordinates you can easily place the new button (logo) in the right position.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/823/beeld23ov.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

(dit is een test means this is a test in dutch ;) )

-Save the video as an uncompressed avi (no video codec).
-open the avi in your mpg encoder and save it as a .m2v

Mux the .m2v back into the menu with msc Alex guide.

It`t a very short guide but all the other info can be found in the forum.

qwik3r2
13th October 2005, 01:03
Ah yes finally i get to post! lol

Ok i needz some help. I am able to change the backgrounds now w/o a hitch but for the LOVE OF GOD how do i add audio? I want to add an audio file to the background still of a menu i replaced, is there a way to fit it into the steps in this guide? I tried following this guide: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99306

However it proves to be quite useless because everytime i run through the steps and recompile everything i end up with a menu that plays music but is no longer a menu. Looking in ifoedit u can't even see it as a menu and it has no function etc. Please please help, thanks!

qwik3r2
14th October 2005, 07:03
to the top!!!!!!!!

qwik3r2
17th October 2005, 21:16
anyone?

Taelon
19th October 2005, 05:28
I don't understand the problem, which of the guides are you following? goonix mentions several specific steps in the guides related to adding audio to the menu, such as this one in the first guide;27. Set the Cell still time to 255.
- If you have added audio to your menu or if you use a motion menu:
-- Set audio stream 0 to ID 0 and use the "Fix number of streams in VMGM/VTSI_MAT tables" function.
-- Don't forget to add the cell command "LinkTopCell", set the still time to 0 and the cell command to 1.

qwik3r2
19th October 2005, 19:15
i was following both guides, this one is easier to follow but lacks the ability for me to add audio in a given step. It just says if you have audio, doesn't say how to add the audio, so i ventured to another guide.

tedybear
12th February 2006, 12:37
how do you change dinamic menu to still ?

Msc_Alex
13th February 2006, 16:38
menushrink (http://www.videohelp.com/~menushrink/)

tedybear
13th February 2006, 18:42
thank you

tedybear
13th February 2006, 19:41
anyone has idea what's wrong here?

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3060/error4hi.jpg

Diego2002
22nd February 2006, 08:44
Hi!

I was following Alex's guide, but I had motion menu. Everything went ok, Power DVD plays back the disc perfect. But on DVD-RW my dvd player gives "disc error" message. Maybe the problem isn't with my process, but there is a 0 byte vob on the disc. Vts_03_0.vob. PGCEdit corrected it, but the "disc error" still lives.

The original DVD is a DVD9->DVD5 backup too, but it's 4485 MB. I have only DVD+R, so I need to compress sthing on the disc. Unfortunately Numenu4u can't handle the menu, because it gives back an error too...

setarip_old
22nd February 2006, 18:39
@Diego2002Power DVD plays back the disc perfect. But on DVD-RW my dvd player gives "disc error" message.
perhaps your standalone player isn't capable of playing DVD-R/W media...

Diego2002
22nd February 2006, 19:20
Oh, no, I burned first the stuff to DVD+R. That was bad too.

setarip_old
22nd February 2006, 21:22
Have you successfully played any burned DVD+Rs, from the same batch, on your standalone player?

Diego2002
22nd February 2006, 23:37
I made it so first time. I would like to know, whether this batch could work.

setarip_old
23rd February 2006, 00:40
I made it so first time. I would like to know, whether this batch could work.I'm afraid I don't understand...

Diego2002
23rd February 2006, 09:43
I simply would like to know, that Alex's Guide can work with a motion picture, so not only with a still picture menu, but with an mpv, which is a video track? Can it work?

I begin to be afraid, that my original (of course the original is DVD-9 to DVD-5 backup too) dvd is wrong. It is in ISO, but I wasn't burning it yet. I try it, and if the player doesn't plays the disc, then its all the same.

muci
10th April 2006, 11:33
Hy!
If you look at first page, you can see that on two first pictures Msc_Alex pasted are difrent. He changed all subtitles with Dutch. I'm wondering if there is a guide for that, because I don't know how to do it.
Bye!

manono
10th April 2006, 12:03
Hi muci, and welcome to the forum-

There's not much to it, editing the menu BMP, and maybe that's why Msc_Alex didn't explain it. First you have to capture the menu screen. There are lots of ways to do that. I open the Menu Vob in DGIndex, scroll to the menu I want and then go File->Save BMP. You can do the same thing using MenuEdit with its Save Frame feature, and many other apps. At that point I have the original subtitle menu screen with the original subs listed. You want to change it the way that Msc_Alex did using a photo editing program. You can use something as simple as Microsoft Paint, or something more complex. I use Microsoft Digital Image Suite Pro. You want to wipe out one or more of the original subs by replacing them with something similar to the surrounding background (if it has a clone tool, that will do it), and then write in the name of your subtitle language, using a font with size, thickness, color, position etc. similar to the original. Save it again, and follow the guide from there.

manono
10th April 2006, 12:06
Diego2002-

I simply would like to know, that Alex's Guide can work with a motion picture, so not only with a still picture menu, but with an mpv, which is a video track? Can it work?

Yes, I've used his guide to replace reencoded motion menus several times. It works well. Now, these were reencoded from the original motion menus. I don't know if you are planning on replacing the original with something completely different. I don't know for sure if that will work. You can try and then let us know. :)

Diego2002
10th April 2006, 13:08
Diego2002-

I simply would like to know, that Alex's Guide can work with a motion picture, so not only with a still picture menu, but with an mpv, which is a video track? Can it work?

Yes, I've used his guide to replace reencoded motion menus several times. It works well. Now, these were reencoded from the original motion menus. I don't know if you are planning on replacing the original with something completely different. I don't know for sure if that will work. You can try and then let us know. :)

No, I was replacing the original, for save some space (some MBs) to fit on a DVD+R (4483 MB). But unfortunately, one of the DVDs Cell was corrupt (not in the menu, in another VTS), and the DVD cannot be played in a player. And I thought that I made something wrong. Now, I know that this Guide, and the process is very useful, and can work ;)

manono
10th April 2006, 13:17
Yes, I did it for the same reason. I came out a little bit oversized, and rather than reencode the entire movie, I decided to reencode one of the menu screens. It worked well with no problems.

JConnor
3rd May 2006, 09:19
Choose the original cell? how do i know which one it is??

Msc_Alex
3rd May 2006, 15:18
You can use DGindex (the old version of "dvd2avi" will also work) to open these vobs one by one to fined your menu.

But you can also use the registered version of menuedit (http://www.dimadsoft.com/menuedit/index.php?PHPSESSID=983d0ba6eb3dcdf121a3d9dfc55a6ffa), or the free VobBlanker (http://www.posunplugged.com/jsoto), click on your VTS_* click Menu, language units and the cell -> preview.

Funny how this old guide keeps coming up, still no all in one tool :rolleyes:

/edit/ Vobblanker seems to do it too link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=750575#post750575) nowadays . Cool that should save time. quick guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=788896#post788896)

skybl8zr
2nd September 2006, 22:09
Coming from goonix's excellent guide PART 2: HOW TO EDIT A 16:9 MENU (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99306) I have some comments to borrys (slightly outdated?) guide on how to create a new motion menu with Adobe Premiere (Pro 2.0):

Creating a new motion menu with adobe premiere
Delete the backgroundlayer in photoshop.
(only keep the new layer and the new button)
And save this project in photoshop format (.psd)

Now you have a transparent page with a new button at the right place.

Been there done that...


STEP 2

Extract the menu with vobedit (.M2V file)
Import the .m2v in adobe premiere pro.
And drag the .m2v file to the first videoline (video1)

Import the .psd file and drag it to videoline 2 (video2)
(Adobe premiere pro will ask you which layer to use......layer 1 is the layer with the button).

@1 is the new button
@2 is the menu .m2v

move the new button (psd file) over the time line to the right start position and adjust the duration (right mouse button -->duration)

Also no problem... (an understatement as I'm a total n00b concerning VobEdit and APP but after fiddling around I finally figured things out eventually ;))


File --> export --> adobe media encoder ,creates a new .m2v file.

This doesn't work for me in Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0. First of all when I try to import my menu VTS_02_0006.m2v (demuxed in VobEdit) APP2.0 says "File format not supported". Weird thing is that Adobe's Support Knowledgebase for APP2.0 (http://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/332612.html) shows that .m2v files is supported. But I have to rename into .avi before it will import the file...

Then when I'm done and I want to export...

Export > Adobe Media Encoder... > Output > Format:

Windows Media
Macromedia Flash Video
Realmedia
QuickTime

I can only choose from those formats.

Do someone know why I can't import .m2v files or export to this format and what I need to do it? (maybe a plugin??)

goonix
3rd September 2006, 00:55
@skybl8zr

Coming from goonix's excellent guide...Thanks!

I use PgcDemux to extract the video file, but I don't think that's the reason.
Maybe your installation of Premiere 2.0 is broken?
I have no additional plug-ins installed and can import a m2v-file directly.

For export with Adobe Media Encoder I can select:
MPEG1
MPEG1-VCD
MPEG2
MPEG2-DVD
MPEG2-SVCD

You should deinstall and reinstall Premiere 2.0.
Hope it helps...

goonix

muci
8th October 2008, 09:09
Hy! This is great guide, worked for me many times, but is there a guide to show you how to change/edit menu picture with photoshop or any other program for that? :confused:

petervanpan
4th September 2010, 19:22
Hello

Dear Msc_Alex, blutach, goonix and Manono.

If you can help me.

I have the DVD of the movie Foul Play. Originally the DVD is complete including Menu. Ripped the DVD to HD.
Extracts the subtitle in English and did the translation for the Portuguese. Then I added the subtitle in Portuguese to the DVD, tutorial by following this link: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic275603.html.
I did Demux, Reauthor and Remux the entire DVD without changing its structure.
The new DVD is perfect. The new subtitle in Portuguese is properly synchronized with the audio.
I can access the new subtitle by remote control from a standalone DVD player, but the menu does not have the corresponding button to the subtitle added.
The menu has only two buttons to the caption: English and None.
Now the request for assistance:
1) How to create a button to add the menu with the same design of existing ones?
2) How to insert this new button - so the menu has 3 buttons for subtitles: English, Portuguese and None - and how to call this button the appropriate caption in Portuguese?
3) What software should I use and a step by step tutorial of the whole procedure, if possible with pictures, since I do not know to perform this part.

I am grateful for the attention and help.

petervanpan