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Rebos
6th October 2004, 18:16
Curious if there is a way to convert .ogm files to some sort of format to play in a regular dvd player. I have these files for example are filename_divx5_3.ogm . I do not have a divx player and would like to know if there was an easy way to convert these to a different format and what would be a good program to burn these files to a dvd that would allow me to make a menu to select certain files.(Season disc of episodes)
I am new to this and I am sorry if this question is answered somewhere in a how to guide.
jggimi
6th October 2004, 20:54
Hello, and welcome to the forum.
I'm moving this thread to the Newbie forum, since your question doesn't have to do with DivX encoding, but rather, conversion of DivX to one of several other formats, and that's a fairly general place for this kind of question.
First, in my opinion, you'll be much better off returning to your source DVDs rather than attempting this: What you want to attempt may require significant manual effort, and perhaps, significant technical knowledge and know-how.
The output will be much poorer in quality than if you use the DVD as your source.Second, look up your standalond DVD player in the database at www.dvdrhelp.com/dvdplayers. Your choice of media (e.g.: DVD-R, DVD+R, CD-R, CD-RW...) will depend on what the player can cope with. Not all players can deal with all types of media, and some have brand specific limitations. Obviously, you'll need a CD or DVD burner to match the media requirements of your player.
Your choice of video format (VCD, SVCD, DVD) will also depend on the particular capabilities of your standalone DVD player.
If you still want to proceed: Your .ogm files are containers. They may contain varying types of video and audio. Depending on the software tool(s) you decide to use for this process, you may or may not need to extract (demux) your video track into an .avi file, and you may have to extract and convert your audio track into another format if its currently Ogg Audio. I recommend converting Ogg Audio to Linear PCM (.wav) format, since it is lossless. Then you'll need to mux together your extracted video and (likely) converted audio into an .avi container for continued processing. VirtualDubMod can be used for demuxing and remuxing of both .ogm and .avi containers, and BeSweetGUI can be used for audio format conversion. You'll find VirtualDubMod on Doom9's download page, and step-by-step processes for using it in this link: http://www.doom9.org/vdubmod-procedures.htm. BeSweet and BeSweetGUI are also available from the download page.
I recommend using the software suite DVD2SVCD, since it is fairly automated. And yes, you'll have to make the .ogm -> .avi conversion before you can use it, and the .avi container does not allow Ogg Audio tracks. You'll find DVD2SVCD on Doom9's download page. It's name belies what it can do, as it can create VCDs, SVCDs, and DVDs from a variety of sources, including .avi containers. You'll find step by step procedures for .avi to VCD/SVCD and DVD here: http://www.doom9.org/conversionguides.htm.
Rebos
7th October 2004, 01:21
I know I don't want to lose any quality. I was hoping for an easy way to convert these files to burn them to a DVD and then just setup a way to select certain episodes. I am sure that with enough support here and guides I will be able to find a way, but I want to keep the quality the same. If that can't be done I would really like to just take it to the next step and find a good dvd player that would play divx/xvid that would make this easy. I will keep reading the hardware section also for that information.
Thanks in advance
killingspree
7th October 2004, 16:04
Originally posted by Rebos
, but I want to keep the quality the same. If that can't be done I would really like to just take it to the next step and find a good dvd player that would play divx/xvid that would make this easy.
nope... not really possible... reencoding from a lossy codec to a lossy codec will always introduce a certain quality loss although it can be argued that in specific cases this loss might not be noticeable to the naked eye!
kr
steVe
Rebos
9th October 2004, 05:31
Ok, I have my avi file without sound now using vdubmod. I am not sure if I did something wrong here or not causing the no sound. I decided to just test it with Dvd2svd and see if it would work up to that point, but it says it gets an error saying no audio streams selected. The file I am attempting to do is 200mbs approx and I have 50ish files. Then after I get these files done I hope to use an authoring program to make the files go to multible discs. Sorta like season discs for example.
Rebos
9th October 2004, 09:26
Ok I have figured out how to get the .ogg file by using demux like you mentioned before using Vdubmod. Now I am at a loss at converting this .ogg file to a pcm/wave file. In the picture below there are 3 selections and when I go to comments I have noticed one is English, Japanese, and I believe the third being text is the subtitles. Seeing 2 of these have no use to me can I just leave them out?
streams (http://s94987322.onlinehome.us/images/streams.JPG)
Now using the BeSweet Gui I am trying to figure out how to take this .ogg file and convert it to the wave, but I get some sort of error saying “Error 75: Unable to get VOBinput.dll interfaces”. I went to the website downloaded the file and installed it in the folder which Besweet.exe was (the Gknot rippack is what I downloaded initially).
BeSweet (http://s94987322.onlinehome.us/images/BeSweet.JPG)
Thanks for the help so far guys. I feel as if I am starting to get somewhere.
Rebos
killingspree
9th October 2004, 12:06
you do not have to seperately use besweet to get your wav file... simply hit 'save wav' in the dialog where you can also demux and you'll get yourself a nice decompressed wav file of the ogg stream (see your first screenshot - it's the button above 'demux' !!)
kr
steVe
Rebos
9th October 2004, 18:15
I guess I should of mentioned that also. I did notice that and did try that and it says "VDubMod Error-The stream you selected appears to be Vorbis stream. You can only demux such a stream."
Now going further into this I have also played around with tmpg and converted the filename.avi to a .m2v + .wav file. But the .wav file appears to be the right amount of minutes just no sound since the orginal avi file it came from had no sound is what I figured. Also the .m2v file is 1.35gbs from 197mbs now. With no difference in quality but just seems its fairly large now, not sure if it was something I did or not. I am just using trial and error atm to learn as much as possible.
Thanks for replying once again Steve.
killingspree
9th October 2004, 19:48
oops sorry... should have known that :)
about your filesizes 'problem' - the quality won't ever be _better_ than before... since you are dealing with lossy compression ghere (both in your avi - most likely divx and the m2v), artefacts and loss of detail due to encoding is lost forever... no matter how high you set the bitrate for later encodings (from the already encoded source) - you won't be able to recreate the lost information!
the reason why you got the much bigger filesize is (most likely at least)
a) mpeg2 is much less efficient than mpeg4 it uses much higher bitrates in order to make the video look good. also it is tweaked for higher bitrates than mpeg4. (compare movie on DVD (4-8 gigs) to mpeg4 movie on 1 or 2 cds (700- 1400 mb)
b) most likely, tmpegenc has automatically converted the resolution of the video to comply with the dvd standard - my guess is that it now is either 720x576 (for PAL) or 720x480 (for NTSC)
to your audio problem: i usually use winamp (2.8) for decoding purposes... simply activate the filewriter plugin (should be installed by standard) and 'playback' the file... it runs much faster, and decompresses it to a predefined folder!
hth
steVe
Rebos
10th October 2004, 07:39
Ok now using the .avi file and the blank .wav file I loaded up vdubmod and added the .wav file to it. Then made another avi file and loaded up Dvd2svcd using TMPG as my encoder It lets me do the whole conversion. But when it finishes it made 2 files a Encoded_Video_TMPGEnc_NTSC.mpv and a TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr. Then viewing my log it showed one error "DVDAuthor failed for unknown reasons!". Then I viewed the log file and it says this
"STAT: Processing C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg...
ERR: Error opening C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg: No such file or directory"
Im not really sure what the DVDAuthor was for or if I need to install something else to make this all work right. But I thought I was getting some sort of bin/cue/iso file to burn to a dvd. I am assuming this DvdAuthoring program was suppose to make the .mpv file to a file I could burn using Nero for example.
Anyhow thanks again for helping and sorry for being so needy.
killingspree
10th October 2004, 10:14
obviously the muxing process failed! check your hd space :)
Rebos
10th October 2004, 22:05
15gbs of hard drive space left. Could this be cause due to where I directed the file to be saved possibly? It appears it is looking for something that is or was not created. I did a search for the MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg and found no results.
killingspree
10th October 2004, 22:33
:logfile: the whole one...
Rebos
10th October 2004, 22:43
Here we go =)
WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 10/9/2021 8:05:23 PM
- AVI to SVCD Conversion
- AVI2DVD ver. 1.2.2 build 3
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Initializing
- C:\New Folder\filenamewithblankwavefileinit.avi
Initializing finished.
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- 10/9/2021 8:05:26 PM
- Free on drive C: 16694.38 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Audio extraction finished.
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- 10/9/2021 8:06:32 PM
- Free on drive C: 16694.38 mb
- AUDIO conversion
--------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/9/2021 8:06:35 PM
- Free on drive C: 16694.38 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.wav" -payload -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav finished.
Audio conversion finished.
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- 10/9/2021 8:08:09 PM
- Free on drive C: 16694.38 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 4546875788
AudioSectors: 2324
VideoPAPO: 70433496
ScanOffsetBytes: 31413
SeqAligningBytes: 1996452
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 4474412099.70
Seconds: 1457.74
CalcMPEGStream: 4474412099.70
Frames: 34903
CDSize: 4350.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 4346.00
Max. Bitrate: 8000
Avg. Bitrate: 7200.00
Min. Bitrate: 800
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Documents and Settings\rkolic\My Documents\Media Software\TMPGEnc-2.521.58.169-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\New Folder\movies1test\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.
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- 10/10/2021 12:00:50 AM
- Free on drive C: 15363.55 mb
- Multiplexing Audio and Video
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Executing MPlex. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\mplex.exe" -f 8 -o "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg" "C:\New Folder\movies1test\Encoded_Video_TMPGEnc_NTSC.mpv" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.wav"
--------------------------------------------------------
- 10/10/2021 12:00:53 AM
- Free on drive C: 15363.55 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing finished.
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- 10/10/2021 12:00:58 AM
- Free on drive C: 15363.55 mb
- Authoring DVD
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Executing DVDAuthor. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\dvdauthor.exe" -x "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVDAuthor.xml"
DVDAuthor failed for unknown reasons!
For details open: "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\DVDAuthor_log.txt"
"DvdAuthor_log.txt details"
DVDAuthor::dvdauthor, version 0.6.10.
Build options: gnugetopt iconv freetype
Send bugs to <dvdauthor-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
INFO: Locale=C
INFO: Converting filenames to US-ASCII
INFO: dvdauthor creating VTS
STAT: Picking VTS 01
STAT: Processing C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg...
ERR: Error opening C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg: No such file or directory
Rebos
11th October 2004, 07:32
to your audio problem: i usually use winamp (2.8) for decoding purposes... simply activate the filewriter plugin (should be installed by standard) and 'playback' the file... it runs much faster, and decompresses it to a predefined folder!
Thanks again I now have audio in my avi file. Now just to experiment with the DVD2SVCD program and find out the error I got. Then get familiar with a dvd authoring program.
Rebos
12th October 2004, 22:35
Tried converting avi to dvd again and at the end I got the same error. From the logs I posted above. Any clue what could be causing this?
killingspree
13th October 2004, 08:18
not really... perhaps you could try to reinstall dvd2svcd (first completely uninstall it, then reinstall from scratch...)
steVe
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