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jimboe
14th September 2004, 07:02
Title says it all.


After spending several hours researching, I've come up completely empty.

One would think this should be a given in any program that burns images, but for cue/bin, this very simple, simple feature, is simply not to be found.

Not in Nero, Alcohol, Recordnow, Blindwrite, UltraIso, ISOBuster, VCDEasy, (WinOnCD/DVD and InstantCopy don't do cue/bin at all), even damn CDRwin itself-- Is it just me or is that not insane? What's wrong with these authors?

I know I can scan for read errors with many prgs (Nero CD Speed, etc), but that requires additional steps. BIG PIA when you have many cue/bins to burn.. And just because it's "readable", doesn't necessarily mean the data is correct. AFAIK, since the block size of VCD is larger than that for a data CD, you loose some error correcting info in exchange for more "space" on the CD (thereby 800MB on a 700MB CD), so you could have bit-errors which could lead to blocky or jumpy playback at times.

There still is no program which will simply:
Open a cue/bin file, burn it and automatically verify the burned CD versus the cue/bin image on the hard drive, the way many many programs (Nero, Recordnow, etc.) will burn an ISO (or img, etc.), then, if the option is selected, verify the CD. No user intervention required.

Recordnow even goes one step further, and allows one to verify any CD/DVD to an existing image on the HD, which is great, since my NEC ND-2500a is a horrible reader, and reports read errors often on many discs (DVDs at least) it burns. Because of that, I don't even bother to verify images on the NEC (when burning DVD's). I burn them there, but place the disc into the DVD-Rom and choose "Only Verify", to verify them manually as a second step. I know this is not really what I said I wanted, but the 2500a is really a POS reader (at least for DVD's. Not sure w/CD's).

(Actually, this all applies to mds/mdf files as well, since Alcohol has no verify option at all).

If I can ever find a program which will conquer this obviously Herculean task, it will certainly be an instant hall of famer for me.

sheesh.


Why do I want this? So I can burn cue/bin's (and maybe mds/mdf's too) unattended.

In my experience with various CD/DVD-ReWriters (Lite-On, NEC's, etc) and CD media, if burn-proof (etc) is activated for any reason at any time during an (S)VCD burn, that disc will invariably exhibit playback problems (as stated above). So, to be 100% sure the CD burned 100% correctly, I am forced to sit there and stare at the light to be sure burn-proof never was activated throughout the burn, since of course, no burning prg I'm aware of will tell you if burn-proof was activated during a burning session.

Surely others must be experiencing this as well.

TIA

twist3d
14th September 2004, 19:36
There still is no program which will simply:
Open a cue/bin file, burn it and automatically verify the burned CD versus the cue/bin image on the hard drive, the way many many programs (Nero, Recordnow, etc.) will burn an ISO (or img, etc.), then, if the option is selected, verify the CD. No user intervention required.


next time, take a good look in nero burning roms recording window, it has an "verify written data" checkbox which indeed, verifies the data in your cd/dvd comparing it to the files in your hd after burning :D

jimboe
14th September 2004, 20:09
Originally posted by twist3d
next time, take a good look in nero burning roms recording window, it has an "verify written data" checkbox which indeed, verifies the data in your cd/dvd comparing it to the files in your hd after burning :D Yeah, I know about that one.

Unfortunately, it's not available when burning cue/bins.

Have a look for yourself, the checkbox is absent.

therealjoeblow
7th October 2004, 18:55
Use Alcohol 120% to burn bin/cues instead. It includes the ability to mount any cd-image as a virtual drive (same as daemon tools, but all in one program). So, after your burn the image, from the same program, you can mount the image, and then use CDCheck from http://www.elpros.si/CDCheck/ to do a binary bit-by-bit compare of the burned disc to the original image.

My physical CD drive is H:, the virtual drive mounts as I:, with just a couple of mouse clicks you can fire up CDCheck and compare H:\ to I:\

I know it's not 100% automatic, but it's a pretty simple second step, and it's 100% accurate, the best way I've found so far.

jimboe
10th October 2004, 04:23
Originally posted by therealjoeblow
Use Alcohol 120% to burn bin/cues instead. It includes the ability to mount any cd-image as a virtual drive (same as daemon tools, but all in one program). So, after your burn the image, from the same program, you can mount the image, and then use CDCheck from http://www.elpros.si/CDCheck/ to do a binary bit-by-bit compare of the burned disc to the original image.

My physical CD drive is H:, the virtual drive mounts as I:, with just a couple of mouse clicks you can fire up CDCheck and compare H:\ to I:\

I know it's not 100% automatic, but it's a pretty simple second step, and it's 100% accurate, the best way I've found so far. Good one.

I've been mounting using alcohol and using Recordnow DX "record and verify" on a disc-disc copy.

Seems to be OK so far.