Testing Dual Layer Projects ???

[DVDan]

Ayup,

I have just completed a DVD-9 project and want to test it before mastering to DLT. I can test it using winDVD-6 on my pc but I would prefere to burn a disk to test in a standalone DVD player.
Is replacing the main video file with a placeholder and re-building so it will fit on a DVD-5 disk the best way or has anyone any other sujestions?

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[dgoodbourn]

You can do that, or you could compress the whole thing to fit onto a DVD-5. I use CloneDVD2, but I'm sure there are a lot of other apps to do the trick. Obviously you can't check the quality of the video as it re-compresess it, but the functionality should work fine. :)

D.

[Sherlock_2]

And I think u can test it on a DVD+R DL
But I don't know that stand alone players support it or not.
any body knows ?

[cona812]

And I think u can test it on a DVD+R DL
That will not work, you will have problems with layerbreak.

I for usuall use DVD-Shrink to fit on DVD5 and burn to DVDR.

Cona

[dgoodbourn]

Slightly off topic, but still relevant. Does anyone know of a way to check the layer split of a DVD-9, without having to use the Panasonic emulator, or wait for the check disc?

D.

[Sherlock_2]

Hi there
Do you have any idea to burn a DVD-9 on a DVD+R DL ?

[DVDan]

Back again,
I ended up just cutting my main movie - 114min to 40min - and was then able to fit on DVD-5 for testing. Not great for checking all the chapters. Also I found that WinDVD-6 would not emulate some GPRM commands which worked in the simulation window - changing Audio streams - however when I burnt a test disk it worked fine on stand alone players. Is this common with software emulators? Is the Panasonic emulator mentioned by the standard?dgoodbourn the one to use??
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[dgoodbourn]

The Panasonic emulator is an extremely powerful tool, but it's reflected in the price. At about £15,000 (that's about $26,000us). It's therfore only used by the major studios.

Where I work at the moment, we don't have it, and use other emulators. It's just a pitty we can't check the layer split before the check discs return.

D.

[hendrix]

Originally posted by Sherlock_2
And I think u can test it on a DVD+R DL
But I don't know that stand alone players support it or not.
any body knows ?
ya it works

...create a .dvd image from Scenarist and burn with DVDDecrypter - it's that easy and it works fine on my system. The layer break is where it's supposed to be.

I use a Pioneer DVR-A08XL w/Mitsubishi DVD+R DL media.

I tested on a hollywood+ card, a Sony DVP-S501D settop player and the X-Box - all played flawlessly.

I've read somewhere that Nero doesn't burn as well as it should, but DVDDecrypter burns Double Layered media just fine so Im not going to take that chance.

I havent tried a 1:1 back-up yet

[hendrix]

Originally posted by cona812
That will not work, you will have problems with layerbreak.

I for usuall use DVD-Shrink to fit on DVD5 and burn to DVDR.

Cona
im not being sarcastic but what layer break problems are you talking about? what programs are involved...i too heard some problems with Nero thats why I burn with DVDDecrypter and the disks come out fine...and yes im talking about the Double Layer media :)

[cona812]

I tried Nero -> not working

Never ried DVD-Decrypter, if it's working I'll give a try next time.

Cona

[hendrix]

Originally posted by cona812
I tried Nero -> not working

Never ried DVD-Decrypter, if it's working I'll give a try next time.

Cona
ya all i did was import the .dvd image file that Scenarist created into DVDDecrypter and burnt it...decrypter even got the layer point down.

[rasna]

Originally posted by hendrix
ya it works

...create a .dvd image from Scenarist and burn with DVDDecrypter - it's that easy and it works fine on my system. The layer break is where it's supposed to be.

I use a Pioneer DVR-A08XL w/Mitsubishi DVD+R DL media.

I tested on a hollywood+ card, a Sony DVP-S501D settop player and the X-Box - all played flawlessly.



I've tried with my Pioneer DVR-108 (firmware ver. 1.14) with Verbatim DL media........ all played perfectly on Sony DVP-NS405 settop player and PS2........

Thanx for the infos about DVD Decrypter

cheers

[hendrix]

groovy..glad to help

[Berghutze]

I am a bit late but what the....

I am beginning to learn about double layer Dvds. Problem is:

I created an image with dvddecrypter from a double layer disc. Ifoedit shows the image got a layer break and its where it is on the original dvd.
When I burn it with Isowrite I found the following settings; see attached file.
That I dont understand. I don't want dvddecrypter to calculate nor do I want to define something. I want the layer break to be where it is in the image.
What to do?

Thanx in advance
Berghutze

[Cheesus]

Can you not just right click on the image and use the "Burn With DVDDecrypter" option? As I recall it just uses the original dual layer sector position for the layer break.

I've tried to play verbatim DVD+R DL's in several LG models & they don't work. Two different Sony models did play them though. Does anyone know how compatible DVD +R DL's in general are? Is there a playback compatability percentage table out there like there is for other DVD media? i.e. what players will & what players will not play DVD +R DL's

Thanks in advance

[easy2Bcheesy]

DVD+R DL is a bit of a minefield to be honest and in its native form is barely compatible at all. However, as the poster earlier stated, it is excellent for testing dual layer projects 'in the real world'.

You can make DVD+R DL media much more compatible by changing the booktype. In DVD Decrypter, near the bottom right, you should see a little book icon. Press it, select the brand of DVD burner you have, then adjust the DVD+R DL setting to read 'DVD-ROM'.

Essentially, now DVD players will see the DL media as a DVD-ROM in 90% of cases, should run it with no problems. Without adjusting the booktype, I couldn't get DL media to run on any of my standalone players.

I would recommend Verbatim media. It's twice as expensive as the cheapest Ritek DL media, but I've not had much luck on playback with the cheaper stuff.

[Cheesus]

Great tip, that's something that I hadn't been doing.

Cheers

[seebold]

There is a new dvd-emulator for QC. You can test menue-structure, video/audio-streams and subpicture-streams and region-codes for different customizable player-presets. Also the emulator gives detailed information on general params, layerbreak and prohibited buttons.

I know that some GDMX-affiliates use this new emulator named dvd.emu for short. It works good and is not too expensive. Have a look at www.dvdemu.com (http://www.dvdemu.com).

Ciao
Seebold

[BennyS]

You can use TViX for testing dvd on tv
check www.tvix.co.kr

it will read DVD in FILE mode and ISO

B.