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bjorn toulouse
18th August 2004, 16:13
I don't know where this one should go so if its not here sorry in advance.

I got a new toy that captures analoge and converts in real time to MPEG 2. It works (quite well actualy). However I have grown to like using virtual dub to process my video using a bunch of filters I'm now quite familiar with. Are there any tools like virtual dub that can use MPEG 2s? Or would I have to convert the MPEG 2s to AVI then filter in vdub and re-encode to MPEG2?

thoughts

Kika
18th August 2004, 16:24
Just one Word:

VirtualDubMOD

bjorn toulouse
18th August 2004, 16:40
Thanks

bb
19th August 2004, 21:50
Another word: AviSynth.

Why would anyone want to create an AVI just to filter an MPEG-2 source to be reencoded to MPEG-2 again?

bb

Selur
19th August 2004, 23:07
[irony on]
and I thought it should go this way:
vhs=>DVD (dvd recorder) => mpeg (demuxing on hdd) => avisynth(deinterlacing) => rm (inloop filtering) => avisynth (sharpening) => mp4 (xvid&aac, since both are allways good) => mpeg => vob (broke input dvd, so need a new one for SAP).
[/irony off]

*scnr*

I think avisynth should be the way to go. :)
(try to stay in one colorspace)

Cu Selur

wingnut
20th August 2004, 10:44
I'm currently transferring a very large mountain of old VHS to DVD. Some of them require more processing than my Panasonic EMR55 can give them and in these cases I'm using the following method.

VHS -> Panasonic EMR55 XP/SP mode (depending on length) onto DVDRAM
DVDRAM onto PC using Panasonic DVD Moviealbum copytool
Edit with MPEG2VCR to remove obvious ads/rubbish
Finished mpeg2 into virtualdubmod, filter/avisynth/frameserve to-->
TMPGENC re-encode at 352x576 CQ bitrate max 4000

mpeg2 -> dvd lab pro beta -> dvd decryptor -> dvd-r

Very nice results with around 3-4 hours on one disc. Of course for pristine VHS (yes, there are a few) its just VHS-> recorder -> PC -> mpeg2vcr -> dvdlab pro with no re-encoding.

Cheers

Edz

bjorn toulouse
20th August 2004, 12:27
Ok mabee I should be a bit more clear,
@bb - I have just got my head round virtualdub - avisynth next month, walk before I attempt running!

@Selur - The only methodes I have avaliable to me at preasent to get VHS into the PC are
a. VCR --> Camcorder --> DV AVI, My camcorder is a JVC and the results are not too pretty.
b. VCR --> ADS USB2 Capture --> MPEG2

@wingnut - MPEG2VCR is it any good? just now I use pinacle but it requires re- rendering and encoding every time you edit and the results are quite poor.

@Selur - Stupid Question, Why go to MPEG4 to go back to MPEG2? Or did I just miss the irony?

wingnut
20th August 2004, 12:37
Originally posted by bjorn toulouse


@wingnut - MPEG2VCR is it any good? just now I use pinacle but it requires re- rendering and encoding every time you edit and the results are quite poor.


Yes, it's very good. Frame accurate cutting and, providing you dont render in any fades / blends on the clips, it doesn't re-render either. They've also just reduced their prices. Good stuff all round.

Cheers

Edz

bjorn toulouse
20th August 2004, 13:11
Downloaded the demo's will give it a test run tomorrow.

lark
20th August 2004, 16:13
well, hopefully this isn't much off topic,
but i'm using a VERY cheap hauppauge wintv card to capture into huffyuv and probably you guess the rest (avisynth, vdm)...

but obviously that would require some more hw and also a lot of hd.

regards
t :)