New Nerovision/Recode version

[ajp]

I just downloaded the latest Nerovision Express (v2.1.218) and Recode lets you import .mpg's now, haven't tried .avs yet. Just installed it so I haven't actually tried encoding anything yet, I'll leave the real testing to the more experienced users... :)

[LostMP4]

Nero Recode:
+ can open media files other than DVD
+ 2 audio tracks
+ 2 subtitle tracks
+ chapter creation/deletion
+ resize with square pixel (optional, of course)
+ interface changes (option to recode a full dvd or main movie only, audio settings button moved)
- no parametric audio encoding or H.264

Nero Vision Express & Useless:
- can't use Nero Digital codecs
-- can't use Nero Digital codecs
--- can't use Nero Digital codecs

From www.nero.com:

Transcoding to Nero Digital:

New improved Nero Digital profiles for improved CE compatibility
Support for transcoding video files to Nero Digital has been added (AVI, AVS, MPEG1, MPEG2, MPEG4, MOV, VOB, WMV)
Support for Nero Digital chapter marks - a Nero Digital file can now have chapters; chapters from DVD titles are automatically taken over. For all other files, the user can specify the chapter marks himself.
Copy the main movie of a DVD to Nero Digital project type
Encoding of 2 audio tracks and 2 subtitle tracks into one .mp4 file is now possible
Data files can also be added to a Nero Digital project
Support splitting of Nero Digital files to several discs or to one custom size file
High speed first pass for 2 pass encoding has been added
Support for "square pixels" in mp4 files has been added to allow downwards compatibility with certain devices

[SeeMoreDigital]

Just downloaded it myself...

Every time I launch Recode2 the DVD drive tray opens and closes. Same thing happens when going into the 'Burn/Options Settings'.

Also, AAC-HE audio has gone for me, as has GMC, Qpel and a few other settings!

Anybody have any ideas?


Cheers

[LostMP4]

Try uninstalling and reinstalling, maybe some files were in use and weren't updated

[iwod]

It also allow AVi and other format input........

What's new (http://www.nero.com/en/Recode_Info.html)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by LostMP4
Try uninstalling and reinstalling, maybe some files were in use and weren't updated OK.. just tried doing that...

Now when I install the latest version of NVE I get this: -

http://img62.exs.cx/img62/8144/SMD_NVE_01.gif

and this: -

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/3898/SMD_NVE_02.gif

I wonder if this is down to me running a clean install of WinXP Pro with SP2 :( ..... I hope not!


Cheers

[Jvdhorst]

Retry your download. If you keep getting the same error you may have hardware problems. About not being able to select certain features, if you select certain nero digital profiles in the first screen (right bottom) features will be disabled or enabled.

[LostMP4]

Redownload the package (update or demo?) and clean your TEMP folder, too (Start, Run, %TEMP%, select all and delete)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks for that info guys,

I downloaded the 'update package' and prior to install made a visit to my 'Temp' folder (to which I have a desktop shortcut). I also used RegCleaner (an oldie but reliable application) to delete all the old Ahead registry entries!

Although I'm happy to report that I was able to install the software I'm still having exactly the same problems as before, eg: the drive tray opens and closes. No AAC-HE audio, GMC, Qpel plus other settings!

What a bummer!

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Thanks for that info guys,

I downloaded the 'update package' and prior to install made a visit to my 'Temp' folder (to which I have a desktop shortcut). I also used RegCleaner (an oldie but reliable application) to delete all the old Ahead registry entries!

Although I'm happy to report that I was able to install the software I'm still having exactly the same problems as before, eg: the drive tray opens and closes. No AAC-HE audio, GMC, Qpel plus other settings!

What a bummer!

Try changing your username in SeeNeroDigital, it may work ;)

For the drive issue check the settings (there should be a new option related to to that) and for the codec options... are you sure you haven't selected a "limited" profile? Try switching between them and see if something (good) happens

[JohnV]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Thanks for that info guys,

I downloaded the 'update package' and prior to install made a visit to my 'Temp' folder (to which I have a desktop shortcut). I also used RegCleaner (an oldie but reliable application) to delete all the old Ahead registry entries!

Although I'm happy to report that I was able to install the software I'm still having exactly the same problems as before, eg: the drive tray opens and closes. No AAC-HE audio, GMC, Qpel plus other settings!

What a bummer!
Select other than Nero Digital "standard" -profile. "Maximum Definition" -profile gives those features.

Btw. There seems to be h.264 decoding included in this release.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by LostMP4
Try changing your username in SeeNeroDigital, it may work ;)

For the drive issue check the settings (there should be a new option related to to that) and for the codec options... are you sure you haven't selected a "limited" profile? Try switching between them and see if something (good) happens Okay, I'm getting a little nearer to perfection!

In the NeroDigital Profile I had it set to 'Standard'. However when you alter it to 'Cinema' or 'High Definition TV', all the AAC-HE audio and higher ASP video settings re-appear :D

http://img70.exs.cx/img70/2904/SMD_NVE_Profile.gif

By-the-way, have you guys noticed that AAC-HE audio bit-rates max-out at 128kbps now instead of 96kbps? This is a welcome improvement!

The damn drive tray still opens up though... it's a real pisser because it means I can't burn directly onto blank media or 'back-up' from disc based media :(


Cheers

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
The damn drive tray still opens up though... it's a real pisser because it means I can't burn directly onto blank media or 'back-up' from disc based media :(


Have you tried checking the second option in the general tab of Recode settings?
I guess Recode shares the same burning engine as nero, so try to configure Nero Burning Rom to not open the drive when burning is complete

[chilledoutuk]

i have updated and all the usual features including he-aac and gmc and qpel are still there.

the first pass is now much faster than the second like xvids.

Am running some tests but sofar all seams ok i have encoded mpeg ts files i recoreded with my tv card without any problems.

[chilledoutuk]

I have encoded a couple of HDTV samples and the quality is impressive as is the speed at which it encodes the video.

I have been using recode to convert a TV series to anamorphic .mp4s with great results for a while now but this new version does the first pass at over 100fps.
The second pass seems the same speed as before averaging about 20fps in extra quality mode on full anamorphic 720x576 frames.

A long story cut short the application used to take 110 mins per episode now it only takes 65 mins whilst the quality appears to be as good as if not better than the previous version of recode.

Also the directshow splitter now works in windows media player which for me it did not but I still use mpc as I can skip chapters with that more easily.

SeeMoreDigital you will be pleased to know that now you can disable crop and resize and the correct aspect is maintained.

This is an excellent release by the Nero team with more features than before with the existing ones efficiency improved this is a definite thumb’s up.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by LostMP4
Have you tried checking the second option in the general tab of Recode settings?
I guess Recode shares the same burning engine as nero, so try to configure Nero Burning Rom to not open the drive when burning is complete Nice thought, but sadly it did not work!

http://img68.exs.cx/img68/8656/SMD_Recode2_Config.gif

I've also tried installing NVE completely on it's own (ie: without installing Nero6 Burning ROM) and this did not work either...

I've just had a thought. I wonder if it's because I have a DVD ROM drive that's connected via USB2.0 and a DVD burner that's connected via IDE...

I'll disconnect the USB2.0 DVD drive, delete and re-install Nero to see what happens!

Originally posted by chilledoutuk
SeeMoreDigital you will be pleased to know that now you can disable crop and resize and the correct aspect is maintained. This is excellent news :D

I generated a quick PAL anamorphic 720x576 encode using the highest quality setting and when played back in software and hardware the encodes performed perfectly (I even created some additional chapters).

Also when I extracted the video stream to AVI and ran it thru' MPEG4 Modifier the PAR was reported as being 64:45. This is spot on and represents 16:9 PAL perfectly.

Spooky... it's almost like somebody actually read one of my posts about this very subject ;)

Plus and this is a big plus. Although my encode test was only very short, it's clear that there is a significant image quality improvement...

...look out XviD, Ahead are nipping at your 'image quality' heals!

And as for DivX... Man, have you guys got some catching up work to do now. If Nero ever get round to adding MP3 audio and AVI container support you would be in real trouble... And don't say you were not warned!


Cheers

[LostMP4]

Has anyone tested it Recode can import subtitles (and which format) or dual audio track from avi? (Or from a separate file)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by LostMP4
Has anyone tested it Recode can import subtitles (and which format) or dual audio track from avi? (Or from a separate file) I imported an .MP4 encode with 2 track audio and 2 sub-title sets with multiple chapters and Recode2 re-encoded it perfectly.

The importing of DV.avi (digi cam) material works perfectly too. And so does the importing of those little .avi's you can create from 'stills' cameras.... Recode2 really is the dogs nads!

Shame it doesn't like WMV9.avi, WMV9.wmv, VP6.avi, the MKV or any of the Real containers... But you never know what the next few months might bring :D


Cheers

[JohnV]

Try the h264 decoding. I have some avc streams in .avi, .264 and .mp4 containers and the new NeVideo.ax&NdParser.ax handles all of these. :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by JohnV
Try the h264 decoding. I have some avc streams in .avi, .264 and .mp4 containers and the new NeVideo.ax&NdParser.ax handles all of these. :) No shit.... amazing!

[LostMP4]

Now we can wait for the new audio & video encoders ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

What I would not mind with newer versions of Recode2 is to be able to: -

* Import 'DVD and Video' streams and create full Mpeg2/DVD's (in much the same way we now when creating Mpeg4/mp4 streams)

* Import multiple video stream types and merge them into say one VOB file with manually created chapter points.


Cheers

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
What I would not mind with newer versions of Recode2 is to be able to: -

* Import 'DVD and Video' streams and create full Mpeg2/DVD's (in much the same way we now when creating Mpeg4/mp4 streams)

* Import multiple video stream types and merge them into say one VOB file with manually created chapter points.


Cheers

You can use Nero Vision Vision for that :p which can't output .MP4 files... maybe in the next Nero Vision 3 (with Nero 7 :cool: ) the two programs will be merged into one

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by LostMP4
You can use Nero Vision Vision for that :p which can't output .MP4 files... maybe in the next Nero Vision 3 (with Nero 7 :cool: ) the two programs will be merged into one Hopefully this will be the case!

Much as I like creating MP4 files, it can't be all that difficult to create an application which offers selectable 'container' output, such as: .MP4, .AVI, .MPG, .VOB etc

With regard to merging software/applications. I can't see the point of having Nero Media Player!!!! I mean, surely the ShowTime player and Nero Media player can be merged somehow!


Cheers

[lexor]

umm... you guys may know how in WMEncoder you can set "non-square pixels" option On, then set Aspect Ration to 16:9 and then resize in only horizontal domain (i.e. 1280x720 becomes 1024x720 for 20% area reduction) on play back it will be correct aspect ration (aka back to 1280x720).

When I try doing it with NeroDigital I'm getting the 1024x720 on playback on some players and others reduce 720 to a smaller number (576 I think) to make it 16x9 (adding the accursed black bars to top/bottom).

Anyway I can make ND behave like WME in this regard? I found it that I am much less sensitive to horizontal only resize artifacts than horizontal+vertical when they both reduce Area (not each dimension, but the total area) by same percentage (in case above 20%). There also was a study on this but I forgot where I've seen it, I didn't pay much attention at the time since I wasn't into video encoding back then.

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
With regard to merging software/applications. I can't see the point of having Nero Media Player!!!! I mean, surely the ShowTime player and Nero Media player can be merged somehow!
Yes, and they should make it freeware to push NeroDigital (of couse, DVD decoding activated only by Nero plug-in)

Ideally NeroVision 3 should have 3 modules:
- capture
- movie editor
- recode (output as MPEG 1, 2 or 4)

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by lexor
umm... you guys may know how in WMEncoder you can set "non-square pixels" option On, then set Aspect Ration to 16:9 and then resize in only horizontal domain (i.e. 1280x720 becomes 1024x720 for 20% area reduction) on play back it will be correct aspect ration (aka back to 1280x720).

When I try doing it with NeroDigital I'm getting the 1024x720 on playback on some players and others reduce 720 to a smaller number (576 I think) to make it 16x9 (adding the accursed black bars to top/bottom).

Anyway I can make ND behave like WME in this regard? I found it that I am much less sensitive to horizontal only resize artifacts than horizontal+vertical when they both reduce Area (not each dimension, but the total area) by same percentage (in case above 20%). There also was a study on this but I forgot where I've seen it, I didn't pay much attention at the time since I wasn't into video encoding back then.
MP4 PAR should lead to horizontal resize only (usually increasing the width)
Using MediaPlayer Classic and 3ivX filters i get a reduced heigth, but that must be a bug
Check the resize settings you used to recode your NeroDigital file, maybe you have accidentally left the auto-resize on (you must disable it to have a full resolution file with the right PAR)

[iwod]

Originally posted by LostMP4
Yes, and they should make it freeware to push NeroDigital (of couse, DVD decoding activated only by Nero plug-in)

Ideally NeroVision 3 should have 3 modules:
- capture
- movie editor
- recode (output as MPEG 1, 2 or 4)

Slightly off topic. But i would much rather Nero Burning ROM is offer as a seperate product.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by iwod
Slightly off topic. But i would much rather Nero Burning ROM is offer as a seperate product. From what LostMP4 is proposing it would be a totally separate product.

I like the idea of his Nero Vision proposal. It has a logical functionality to it. Unlike the present set of Nero tools, many of which are able to perform the same functions to a more or lesser degree!

That said I don't do much burning. And when backing up .AVI or .MP4 movie or data files, I use WinXP's built in burner...

...but I'm just sad.


Cheers

[bobololo]

Has anyone tried a real life DVD to ND conversion ? Since there are no much comments about the mpeg-4 encoding (which at last comes with all its features), I was really wondering if someone did some tests with this very new version :)

Maybe people are completely bored by all the versions we done ! Next time we won't release so many intermediate versions ;)

-- bobololo

[bond]

does this version already include the fast first analysis pass?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by bobololo
Has anyone tried a real life DVD to ND conversion ? Since there are no much comments about the mpeg-4 encoding (which at last comes with all its features), I was really wondering if someone did some tests with this very new version :)

Maybe people are completely bored by all the versions we done ! Next time we won't release so many intermediate versions ;) Hi bobololo,

Don't panic, I've only just getting round to fully testing the new version.

But I'm still having problems with the CD drive tray popping out every time I launch Recode2 etc :confused:

I'm currently trying to work out what caused my SP2 boot partition to fail. I suppose there will be many other people fiddling about with SP2 as well...

That said, I really like this version...

And as my mate bond has hinted... something seems to have changed with the first pass... as it's very quick now!


Cheers

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by bond
does this version already include the fast first analysis pass?
Yes :)

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by bobololo
Has anyone tried a real life DVD to ND conversion ? Since there are no much comments about the mpeg-4 encoding (which at last comes with all its features), I was really wondering if someone did some tests with this very new version :)

Maybe people are completely bored by all the versions we done ! Next time we won't release so many intermediate versions ;)

-- bobololo

Testing :) No problems, very nice quality and speed
My eyes aren't good enought to make detailed comments on the quality
:rolleyes:
The GUI makes me think more...
Updates are always good, we know that the product is still in active development and we aren't forced too try them all (but I like to do that)
I'd like to see an alpha/beta H.264 codec include, too ;)

OT: Microsoft should learn how to release their updates (ehm... patches)

[Jvdhorst]

I like it also. The only issue so far I'm having is that I can not properly recode mpeg2 interlaced TV recordings (from hauppage pvr250) to an interlaced mp4. I seem to get an interlaced mp4, but the field order is wrong. An extra detection algorithm or manual override would be nice. Also 1 warp point GMC instead of 3 wp would be cool to support CE players (with sigma chips) even better :sly:

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Jvdhorst
... Also 1 warp point GMC instead of 3 wp would be cool to support CE players (with sigma chips) even better :sly: I like it too!

I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that generating encodes with 1WP GMC is next to useless! Apparently, 3WP GMC is a much better implementation... but obviously does not suit the Xcard.

It might make more sense for us Xcard owners to ask Sigma to change the GMC implementation - if its possible!


Cheers

[moonman]

Originally posted by bobololo
Has anyone tried a real life DVD to ND conversion ?
-- bobololo

I think it's the best solution to make MPEG4 files yet.
Finally i can stop use so many small programs´, like VDub, GKnot, Dvd2Avi, AviSynth and all the other stuff...
This is a "One Click" solution for MPEG4.
Why bother with the "old" way with Xvid, when you can make it so easy with Nero Digital.
I don't care if someone say that you can get a little better quality with Xvid or DivX.
That is only with CD media. Now when DVD burners and DVD media is so cheap, you don't need to get under 1,5 Gig in fielsize, so With that bitrate, you can not see that much of difference.

You are stars!
;)

http://www.svartling.tk

[SeeMoreDigital]

I meant to ask bobololo... What do you mean by "real life DVD"?


Cheers

[Latexxx]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I'm sure I remember reading somewhere that generating encodes with 1WP GMC is next to useless! Apparently, 3WP GMC is a much better implementation... but obviously does not suit the Xcard.

IMHO
Xvid turns GMC completely off when it can only find one suitable warp point.

[JohnV]

Originally posted by moonman

I don't care if someone say that you can get a little better quality with Xvid or DivX.
Well, highest quality is still important for many people. Which is why it's a good thing that ND competes quality wise now head-to-head with XviD, rather than with DivX which hasn't been improving recently...

[moonman]

Originally posted by JohnV
Well, highest quality is still important for many people. Which is why it's a good thing that ND competes quality wise now head-to-head with XviD, rather than with DivX which hasn't been improving recently...
Yes I agree.
But i didn't say that I think that Xvid or DivX was better...
For me Nero Digital is the best solution, even with the quality, because as I said, with filesizes around 1,5 - 2 gig, I think Nero Digital is outstanding.
And so much easier than Xvid.
I have made many Xvid encoding until now, but from now on, not any more.

http://www.svartling.tk

[wunschkind]

hi,

is it possible to show nero digital subtitles in zoom player? can somebody help me?


thank you very much


wunschkind

[InsulinJunkie]

I'm having a heck of a time with NTSC DVDs....Recode doesn't seem to want to IVTC, even on DVDs it indicates are progressive.

For example, under the info tab, it reads:
FRAME RATE 29.97 fps (Telecine)
PICTURE Progressive

As a result, all my test encodes are coming out at 30 fps, rather than 24 - which seems rather wasteful.


I *AM* able to feed Recode an AVS to get the desired 23.976 fps output, but I've had no luck just using Recode.

I've uninstalled/reinstalled, but to no avail; I've also tried a bunch of different profiles, but that doesn't seem to matter, either.


I'm just curious if I'm doing something terribly wrong, or that's just the way it is - you give it a NTSC DVD, and you're going to get a 30 fps encode regardless.

[bobololo]

Originally posted by InsulinJunkie
I'm having a heck of a time with NTSC DVDs....Recode doesn't seem to want to IVTC, even on DVDs it indicates are progressive.

For example, under the info tab, it reads:
FRAME RATE 29.97 fps (Telecine)
PICTURE Progressive

As a result, all my test encodes are coming out at 30 fps, rather than 24 - which seems rather wasteful.

I *AM* able to feed Recode an AVS to get the desired 23.976 fps output, but I've had no luck just using Recode.

I've uninstalled/reinstalled, but to no avail; I've also tried a bunch of different profiles, but that doesn't seem to matter, either.

I'm just curious if I'm doing something terribly wrong, or that's just the way it is - you give it a NTSC DVD, and you're going to get a 30 fps encode regardless.

Recode is supposed to perform the inverse telecine before encoding NTSC material. However I guess there are special cases where it couldn't perform the process correctly.

A work around would be to use dvd2avi/avisynth and then feed recode with an avs file.

-- bobololo

[chilledoutuk]

i have had this problem with recode not always recognising some telecined music videos. what would be useful is the ability to force the ivtc to be used maybe on the same pane as the deinterlacing option.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Although the anamorphic cropping and resizing issues have been resolved with PAL Mpeg2/DVD source material (ie: when you press the 'disable' radio buttons for crop and resize, everything resets to '0' and 720 x 576). It would appear that cropping and resizing from NTSC Mpeg2/DVD source material is not responding correctly.

Also I still can't stop my DVD-ROM drive tray from popping out every time I launch Recode2!

I've tried installing NVE three times now on a clean WinXP Pro install... and the result is always the same :(

Could it be something to do with IDE priorities I wonder?

EDIT: I forgot to ask... Is there any particular reason why when playing .MP4 encodes using software players such as Media Player Classic, ZoomPlayer or even Micro$oft's original 6.4 player, Nero's audio DSdec filter cannot be located and connect?

Currently only WMP9 can find the filter!


Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by Latexxx
Xvid turns GMC completely off when it can only find one suitable warp point.exactly

[calinb]

Originally posted by bobololo
Recode is supposed to perform the inverse telecine before encoding NTSC material. However I guess there are special cases where it couldn't perform the process correctly. No, I think InsulinJunkie is correct :( --IVTC to 23.976 fps film broke a few releases back.

I did some regression testing and I don't think it's worked since nve21212.exe.

[SeeMoreDigital]

bobololo,

I just thought you would like to know... When playing Mpeg2 files with 'mono' MPEG-1 Layer 2 audio, your filter plays the audio at half speed :(


Cheers

[Jvdhorst]

No, I think InsulinJunkie is correct --IVTC to 23.976 fps film broke a few releases back.

Well after some testing with nero recode I found that (after some crashing with +4gb mpegs) the ideal solution for me is the use of Avisynth scripts to deinterlace or reverse field orders for interlaced or deinterlaced encoding. I use Gknot to make an initial script and edit that a bit with some help of faq's. This is now 100% working for me.

Hope this helps and good luck.

[calinb]

Originally posted by Jvdhorst
the ideal solution for me is the use of Avisynth scripts to deinterlace or reverse field orders for interlaced or deinterlaced encoding. I use avisynth for a variety of tasks too, but it's not terribly convenient when compared to the earlier versions of Recode2 that did this properly.

[Wedgedkc]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
EDIT: I forgot to ask... Is there any particular reason why when playing .MP4 encodes using software players such as Media Player Classic, ZoomPlayer or even Micro$oft's original 6.4 player, Nero's audio DSdec filter cannot be located and connect?

Currently only WMP9 can find the filter!


apparently the NeAudio.ax does a number of check to make sure that only the _right_ players can use it. to get it to work with for instance mplayerc you need;
1. to keep the C:\Program Files\ahead\NeroVision\NeroVision.exe file in place.
2. the following registry keys (i'm not 100% certain that they are both needed):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\NeroVision\Info]
"Company"="Dover"
"User"="Ben"
and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\NeroVision.EXE]
@="C:\\Program Files\\Ahead\\NeroVision\\NeroVision.exe"
"Path"="C:\\Program Files\\Ahead"
3. rename your mplayerc.exe file to either showtime.exe or nerovision.exe

enjoy! and please remove these checks ahead... what good is it for? are you afraid of alot of support issues regarding your filters from mplayerc users?
oh. btw. i can't enable dxva accelleration in the video decoder. ahead, can you please help me with this? ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Wedgedkc
"Company"="Dover"
"User"="Ben" "BEN DOVER"... This has got to be a wind-up!


Cheers

[PlazzTT]

Another new version of Recode (version: 2.1.2.21)...

http://www.nero.com/us/631943775235296.php

No changelog yet.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well spotted...

I checked a only couple of hours ago and it wasn't there!


Cheers

[SeeMoreDigital]

Damn!

I was hoping that Mpeg4/Mp3 in MP4 encodes would work in ShowTime.

I was also hoping that Nero's DSdec filters would work in other media players (apart from WMP9/10)... but they don't!

Seeking with Mpeg4 AVC files seems to work now, but the video is not as fluid as before!

Also, the AAC audio bitrate is still not correctly displayed in the player :(


Cheers

[InsulinJunkie]

I just did one quick test run, but it appears IVTC on NTSC DVDs is still hosed :(

I just did an upgrade install over the existing Recode; I'll try a more complete uninstall/reinstall later to see if it makes a difference.
It shouldn't, but you never know....

[Sharktooth]

I will never be able to use recode:(
Last time i checked it still asked for "plugins"...
I tried several fixes with the help of ahead guys but none of them worked.
So... refund.

[JohnV]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I will never be able to use recode:(
Last time i checked it still asked for "plugins"...
I tried several fixes with the help of ahead guys but none of them worked.
So... refund. You went "straight to refund" already in July. :D
Anyway, seriously I don't know what else it could be except that you haven't registered Nerovision Express/Recode properly. Check the Nerovision registration/serial.
Or maybe your serial is faulty..

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I will never be able to use recode:(
Last time i checked it still asked for "plugins"...
I tried several fixes with the help of ahead guys but none of them worked.
So... refund. What sort of "plugins" is Recode2/NVE asking for?

Currently I don't have the "Multichannel Plug-In" installed, but as my Xcard can't decode 6Ch AAC audio, It's not bothered me!


Cheers

[Sharktooth]

I know, infact i asked for a refund in july and it never happened... :confused:
After a gazillion of tests now the damn thing (Recode) asks for DVD video plugin (i know it's already there and should work...) whenever i click one of the 2 nero-digital options.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Now be honest.... before you purchased Nero6, was your previous installation running with an "hookie" code number?

If so, this might be why you're now seeing all these warnings!


Cheers

[Sharktooth]

no. the problem is there even if i reformat...
with a clean OS and Nero installs i launch recode and the problem pops up.
Sure i even tried keygens to make it work (after i bought it and got my serial) coz ppl was telling me it was a serial number problem ... but i formatted my hard drive at least 10 times...
Oh... my Nero Burning Rom is an OEM version.
Never bought Nero... i had it always bundled with my burners.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Oh... my Nero Burning Rom is an OEM version.
Never bought Nero... i had it always bundled with my burners. So is mine... I got it with my BTC DRW1008IM DVD~R/RW burner.

My DVD burner connects to the PC via USB2.0. I don't have any "disc" drives connected via IDE.

My big problem with NVE and Recode2, is that my DVD's drive tray opens and closes every time I launch the software and then again prior to creating an encode :(


Cheers

[chilledoutuk]

If you have paid for a full ultra edtion version of nero and are still having problems with the plugins i dont see the legal issue with using a enterprise or ultra edition serial easily found on the net which both fully unlock the plugins.

[Sharktooth]

"DVD VIDEO plugin installed correctly" ...
but recode still asks for the plugin... :D

EDIT: The miracle just happened! It was my Nero OEM version that just didnt like the DVD and multichannel plugin serials.
I just provided Nero a "Nero Burning ROM - Ultra Edition serial" and the other serials just worked and activated the plugins flawlessly.
So at least i know my OEM version is not good and i should buy the ultra edition to use recode...

[McoreD]

Question:
Can we join to ND-MPEG4 files to together without re-encoding the files all over again?

Background:
This version of Recode can now split the movie to 2 or more CDs which is a great feature.

However something like this happened during today's test: Imported 3 Titles and configured to split to 2 CDs. Encoding using 2-pass.

Title 1.mp4 ========= 691.00 MB
Title 1_cut(1).mp4 == 003.27 MB
Title 2.mp4 ========= 296.00 MB
Title 3.mp4 ========= 377.00 MB

Total file size of Title 1.mp4 + Title 1_cut(1).mp4 is 694.27 MB which is less than 700 MB. But Nero Recode 2.1 split the file for no reason.

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by McoreD
Question:
Can we join to ND-MPEG4 files to together without re-encoding the files all over again?

Background:
This version of Recode can now split the movie to 2 or more CDs which is a great feature.

However something like this happened during today's test: Imported 3 Titles and configured to split to 2 CDs. Encoding using 2-pass.

Title 1.mp4 ========= 691.00 MB
Title 1_cut(1).mp4 == 003.27 MB
Title 2.mp4 ========= 296.00 MB
Title 3.mp4 ========= 377.00 MB

Total file size of Title 1.mp4 + Title 1_cut(1).mp4 is 694.27 MB which is less than 700 MB. But Nero Recode 2.1 split the file for no reason.

Maybe to find a proper keyframe or scene change... where's located the cut?

[calinb]

Originally posted by McoreD
Question:
Can we join to ND-MPEG4 files to together without re-encoding the files all over again?
Try this:

I've done this using the 3ivx splitter, ogm multiplexer, and virtualdubmod.

1. Use graphedit to build a filter graph to demux the Nero mp4 files and remux them to ogm files, ie., mp4 filesource >> 3ivx splitter >> ogg multiplexer >> file writer (ogm file)

2. Open the 1st ogm file in Vdubmod and append the others, in order.

3. Save as a mkv file with direct stream copy for audio and video.

4. (Optional) Build a filter graph with graphedit to demux the mkv file and remux to mp4.

You can even use vdubmod to trim the clip--just be sure to mark in on a keyframe.

In my experience, the AAC stream will be preserved. If the mp4 file contains HE-AAC, you may have to remux the mkv file with mkvmerge and activate the "AAC is SBR" setting, to get the correct audio sampling rate. (Otherwise, it will be sampled at 1/2x.) Use the coreaac filter to playback and check.

[McoreD]

@LostMP4, it is cut somewhere during the cast. Title 1.mp4 finishes in the middle of cast and it is continued from Title 1_cut(1).mp4.

@calinb, thanks for sharing your method. I will try that out.

[calinb]

Originally posted by McoreD
@calinb, thanks for sharing your method. I will try that out. I tried it again just now. Works okay with VdubMod 1.5.4 (the version that ships with AutoGK). VdubMod 1.5.10 doesn't append properly.

Also, remember to check "Allow Unsupported Decoders" in the 3ivx splitter properties or the splitter won't connect to the ogg muxer.

[McoreD]

Appreciate your time calinb. :)

ahead should really make some useful utilities to facilitate these needs. Just like these free utilities that comes with Windows Media Encoder 9 for free: Windows Media File Editor and Windows Media Stream Editor.

Using Microsoft® Windows Media® Stream Editor, you can split or combine streams in existing Windows Media files to create one or more audiences in new output files. An audience refers to the stream or set of streams in a file that represent the content that is played simultaneously. Typically, an audio stream and a video stream comprise an audience. The following are examples of tasks you can accomplish by using Windows Media Stream Editor:

Combine streams from multiple source files
Split streams in a file into separate files
Add language support to a file

Microsoft® Windows Media® File Editor is a tool that enables you to open and edit a Windows Media file with a .wmv, .wma, or .asf file name extension. For example, you can trim the start and end points of a file, and add attributes, markers, and script commands. You can also import and export header files if you want to save your edits or reuse edits you previously made.

[Sharktooth]

Oh... and M$ should add b-frames option in WMV9 VCM...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yep, for sure we need more Mpeg4 in MP4 (and AVI) tools.

Come on all you freeware developers!

[pogo stick]

Is it possible to switch between video or at least audio streams using Nero DS stuff? Switching video is not necessary, but it must work for audio! I tried every DS player I have, but it doesn't work.
Here is what I see in MPC (I combined 2 pictures):

http://pogo-stick.nm.ru/nero.jpg

And it's not switchable. :(

[bond]

huh where does this "GPAC audio handler" come from? is that a screenshot from MPC?

with the 3ivx filter switching audio should perfectly work (i tried it in bsplayer and mpc if i remember it right), dunno whether the morgan stream switcher works, but i assume so (altough its really crap)

[pogo stick]

Yes, it's MPC and this is how it handles mp4 using Nero DS stuff.
mp4 was made with mp4box using script based on your MP4Menu-P2. That's why it shows "GPAC ISO Video/Audio Handlers".
But the problem is that Nero parser can not output more than 1 audio. So switchers are not helping. :(

http://pogo-stick.nm.ru/ge.jpg

[bond]

Originally posted by pogo stick
mp4 was made with mp4box using script based on your MP4Menu-P2. That's why it shows "GPAC ISO Video/Audio Handlers".hm, do you have osmo4 installed? if yes, does it also show the gpac stuff after you uninstalled it?

But the problem is that Nero parser can not output more than 1 audio. So switchers are not helping.wow thats crap

[pogo stick]

Originally posted by bond
hm, do you have osmo4 installed? if yes, does it also show the gpac stuff after you uninstalled it?
It's the same with or without Osmo4.

[calinb]

@McoreD: A few more hints--it appears, due to the way VDubMod 1.5.4.1 does audio preload on appended segments, that you first have to remux and delay the video in the clips to be appended by 500ms (using "Audio Skew Correction -500ms"). So here's an example of how I join "n" number of mp4 clips and avoid sync problems:

1. Use graphedit to remux all the clips to be joined to ogm.

file source >> 3ivx splitter >> ogm muxer >> file writer

(It saves time to edit graphedit xml files, if you have a bunch of clips to remux).

2. Use VdubMod 1.5.4.1 to remux clips 2 through n to new ogm files with -500 ms of audio delay.

3. Open clip #1 and use VdubMod 1.5.4.1 to append clips 2 through n. Save as an mkv file.

4. (Optional) Remux final video to mp4. (Still trying to get smooth playback here.)

file source >> mkv splitter >> 3ivx muxer >> file writer

Sure would be nice to have a tool that could just do this natively. :)

[hubereevez]

any news for merging avc/h264 mp4 files ?

thanks

hubert

[FXsan]

Maybe I'm off topic, but I dont find anything about hinting files (for streaming with Darwin, Real, etc...) except with Vdub.
As I want to store my files on a centralized PC server, and distribute it on demand to several (2 !) DVD players with ethernet input, in this "mediagateway" I'd like to use streaming.
But I didn't find an option in Nero to directly hint MP4 files ?
even for MPEG-4ASP (as I understood the hinting won't be the same for MPE4 H264 , and not yet finalized).
Maybe I missed it ?
Thanks for advise

[babayaga]

Originally posted by FXsan
But I didn't find an option in Nero to directly hint MP4 files ?
even for MPEG-4ASP (as I understood the hinting won't be the same for MPE4 H264 , and not yet finalized).
Maybe I missed it ?

This feature is not included in the current version of Recode, maybe in a next release ...