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007craft
26th July 2004, 07:13
I realize that vts_1 seems to be the set containing my fullscreen. WIthout it my DVD is small enough to fit on a dvdr. How Do I remove VTS_1, or do i need a different program for this?

AnGaeL
26th July 2004, 21:54
Originally posted by 007craft
I realize that vts_1 seems to be the set containing my fullscreen. WIthout it my DVD is small enough to fit on a dvdr. How Do I remove VTS_1, or do i need a different program for this?

in my opinion you need to demux the whole thing and then reauthor without the fullscreen...this one's probably containing multiple PGC's (at least 2, 1 for FS, 1 for WS)...you'll need to take that into consideration, i recommend you use for that Scenarist for reauthoring, dvd decrypter and VobEdit for demuxing. you can use some of the guides around this site for the re-authoring

r0lZ
26th July 2004, 22:41
I don't think so.

Normally, the widescreen and pan&scan videos must be in different titlesets, because all videos from the same titleset must share the same video properties.

So, the solution is to use VobBlanker, TitleSetBlanker or PgcEdit ;) to replace the whole titleset by a black frame. Simple!

007craft
26th July 2004, 23:27
ok so if i use a program to replace the whole thing with a blank... then will its be like 0MB?

also.. what do people use to rip the extras from a DVD but keep the menus?

r0lZ
27th July 2004, 01:12
You may do this kind of stuff with PgcEdit...

007craft
27th July 2004, 04:47
I downloaded PGCedit... how do I remove VTS_1 parts? I cant seem to figure it out.

007craft
27th July 2004, 05:53
ok nvm about pgc. I have now used vobblanker to blank vts_01_X and it worked very well. Only problem is now when I push start on the DVD it does not play anything unless I first goto setup.. select widescreen.. then click play or scene selection (fullscreen is chosen first by default i assume).

how do I make it so when you click play it will start playing vts_02_x first which is widescreen.

2COOL
27th July 2004, 06:39
@007craft

how do I make it so when you click play it will start playing vts_02_x first which is widescreen.
Free: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67564
Non-free: http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremake/ug_ht_bypass_menu.php

007craft
29th July 2004, 23:50
thanks for the guide but MY DVD is not like this. The DVD im trying to do is Eye see you. This DVD has a setup menu.. and on this menu you simply select what audio language you want, subtitles and widescreen or fullscreen. ITs not like those other movies were u hit play then choose. I also don't want to remove any menus at all. simply redirect what VTS plays when I hit the play button on the DVD. So what should i do now?

2COOL
30th July 2004, 00:16
Originally posted by 007craft
DVD has a setup menu.. and on this menu you simply select what audio language you want, subtitles and widescreen or fullscreen. ITs not like those other movies were u hit play then choose. Looks familiar to another DVD that I had worked on in preview posts in this thread. I came up with a custom cheat sheet (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72396) for that. Maybe you can look it over and adapt it your DVD.

007craft
30th July 2004, 01:59
hmm I followed that guide but it seems to not of worked properly. The movie plays upto 6 mins and 54 seconds and then all of a sudden it switchs back to the main menu. Also any chapters I select past 3 will just take me to chapter 3... and of course the movie hits main menu again after the 6 min and 54 second mark.

I think this maybe something to do with each film version having a different chapter select menu. you see even tho each chapter select menu looks the same. Vts_01_0.vob and VTS_02_0.vob are each chapter select menus. I think using the full screen chapter select menus to open up parts in the widescreen version might be the cause of something. any suggestions?

2COOL
31st July 2004, 05:28
@007craft

Here's another proposed solution. You mentioned in your PM about your Play button's command, as shown below. You also stated that if you don't select widescreen, your fullscreen plays by default.

(JumpSS VMGM) Jump to VMGM PGC: 6 [ 30 06 00 06 00 c0 00 00 ]

Now, looking at your VIDEO_TS.IFO's VMG Overview, VTS_01's got your fullscreen movie and VTS_02 has widescreen.
_______________________________________________
VMG Overview:

Number of Title Play Maps: 24 (VMG_PTT_SRPT)
Title 1: VTS_01_*, TTN_1 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 24) (Start Sector 9)
Title 2: VTS_02_*, TTN_1 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 24) (Start Sector 41)

Title Set 1:
VTS_1 Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
VTS_1 Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC
VTS_1 Audio 2: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC
VTS_1 Audio 3: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC
VTS_1 SubPicture 1: Español (2-bit rle )

Title Set 2:
VTS_2 Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
VTS_2 Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC
VTS_2 Audio 2: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC
VTS_2 Audio 3: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC
VTS_2 SubPicture 1: Español (2-bit rle )
_______________________________________________
Here's what I want you to do. I used PgcEdit for this.
Go to VMGM / LU 1 (en)/6. Since your play button executes this command, let's see what commands are in VMGM PGC 6. You should see only 2 Pre commands as below.

********** pre commands:
[30 56 00 01 02 84 01 02] 1 if ( gprm(1) > gprm(2) ) then { (JumpSS) Jump to (VTSM 2, Sub-picture menu (TTN 1) }
[30 66 00 01 01 84 01 02] 2 if ( gprm(1) <= gprm(2) ) then { (JumpSS) Jump to (VTSM 1, Sub-picture menu (TTN 1) }

Analyzing the commands, depending on the comparison is between gprm 1 and gprm 2, it determines whether to navigate to your Titleset Menus (fullscreen/widescreen). Let's just set it up so that it doesn't matter on the logical comparisons and let it just navigate to only VTS_02's menu, which is of course for widescreen.

Double-click on Pre Command 2 to bring up Command Edit window. In "Jump to VTS", change value from 1 to 2 and then click on OK to set. You should see this new Pre command #2.

[30 66 00 01 02 84 01 02] 2 if ( gprm(1) <= gprm(2) ) then { (JumpSS) Jump to (VTSM 2, Sub-picture menu (TTN 1) }

Repeat with VMGM / LU 1 (en) / 2.

Save your DVD and play to test.

Let me know how this turns out.

r0lZ
31st July 2004, 09:49
Save your DVD if you don't have your option to save at exit checked. He, 2COOL, the option Save at Exit saves the PgcEdit setups, not the DVD!

2COOL
1st August 2004, 06:51
Originally posted by r0lZ
He, 2COOL, the option Save at Exit saves the PgcEdit setups, not the DVD! Sorry. I was posting on the fly so I made a assumption. I still wish there was a English guide to cover some grey areas of mine. There was a time I thought saving was done without confirmation upon exit but I guess I had confused myself from another tool I had used before. Correction done.

007craft
14th August 2004, 05:33
sorry for the late response...


thanks 2cool.. It worked. I now succesfully backed up Eye see You with leaving everything 100% intact except taking out fullscreen and the French 5.1 audio track. Maybe you could add that part to your tutorials for anymore movie like this.. or for the eye see you movie specifically?

thanks

elwoodps
29th August 2004, 18:29
Originally posted by 007craft
I realize that vts_1 seems to be the set containing my fullscreen. WIthout it my DVD is small enough to fit on a dvdr.

On a disk like you describe, any recent version (1.00 or higher) of DVDFab will do exactly what you want, with just a few clicks. The method is as follows:

1) Put your original DVD in your reader or burner.

2) Start DVDFab and select the "Wizard" from the main menu.

3) On the next screen, select "DVD Drive" as your source and click "Next"

4) On the next menu choose "Copy season disk fully"

5) Click "Next"

6) Select "DVD Folder" as your output method, and specify the directoy you want to use.

7) Click "Go"

DVDFab then rips the disk removing all restrictions and splits it creating two folders called "Disk 1" and "Disk 2". In each of these folders you'll find AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders containing one version of the movie(widescreen in one and fullscreen in the other) and all extras with fully functional menus.

Try them with your software DVD player to see which one contains the widescreen version and then burn the AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders onto a blank disk using your favorite burning software and you're done! :cool:

BTW, this even works with the latest demo version, which is fully functional for 30 days. You can download the demo at:
http://www.dvdidle.com/download.htm

Sorry I'm so late posting this, but I just noticed your thread on Friday and didn't have time to reply until today. :o

Elwood

2COOL
29th August 2004, 20:38
Originally posted by elwoodps
On a disk like you describe, any recent version (1.00 or higher) of DVDFab will do exactly what you want, with just a few clicks. Exactly? I disagree. Here's what 007craft really wanted in the first place. The thread's title was really question 2.

Originally posted by 007craft
Only problem is now when I push start on the DVD it does not play anything unless I first goto setup.. select widescreen.. then click play or scene selection (fullscreen is chosen first by default i assume).

how do I make it so when you click play it will start playing vts_02_x first which is widescreen. Though 007craft's DVD had fullscreen and widescreen, there really never was a normal aspect ratio menu popping up. Widescreen had to be manually selected in the DVD Set Up menu. 007craft wanted widescreen to play by default instead if no selection was made in the Set Up menu.

Still, I can be proven wrong on this matter since I don't use DVDFab. How would DVDFab automatically configure for Widescreen after pressing play?

elwoodps
30th August 2004, 14:22
@2COOL:

Sorry! I Didn't pick up on that. :o

Still, it appears to me after re-reading the thread that what I replied to was question 1: 007craft didn't mention the selection problem didn't until after he used r0lZ's method for stripping the fullscreen version to reduce the disk to DVD-5 size. But that said, I'd not have replied like I did if I had read the whole thread more carefully.

I'm curious now. I wish I had a a disk like that to tinker with. All the DVD-9s I have that hold both formats of the same movie use the normal aspect ratio menu that pops up when you select PLAY. Do you know of any other titles with this particular quirk?

Elwood

2COOL
30th August 2004, 18:16
Originally posted by elwoodps
Do you know of any other titles with this particular quirk?Since I'm in NTSC land (region 1), I do. Look into Barbie as Rapunzel. I even came out with two cheat sheets (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72396). ;)