Philips DVP720SA/2 MT1389EE

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by thop
I never noticed that. What's the error exactly like? Does it repeat the subtitles or the frame (or both)?

Sometimes it repeats a frame and causes a jump in the video, but not always. I cant figure out whats the reason, seems to be random. Someimes it happens very often, sometimes never. But it was there with all firmware versions.
If you dont see it dont search for it ;)

Originally posted by mezzanine
What tool is for that conversion (RGB->YUV) ?
Do i have to give a certain name to the .IFO ?
thanx

You can download it here: link (ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/yuv.exe)
But its VERY poor. It needs Microsoft .net, crashes if you do anything unexpected and wont give you really correct YUV values, but its enough for subtitles.
Just copy the palette line from the .idx file (but without the leading "palette:") into the RGB Farbwerte box, hit the "Umrechnen" button and you will get the YUV values.

For example it will convert this:
000000, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, ffffff, 828282, dcdcdc, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282
into this:
108080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, eb8080, 828080, dc8080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080

For playback you will need:
moviename.ifo
moviename.sub
moviename.idx
moviename.avi

You can also add additional .srt files to that.

[lordyu]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
For playback you will need:
moviename.ifo
moviename.sub
moviename.idx
moviename.avi

Could someone please provide a very short avi with all the subtitle files (especially the ifo) that work so that we can use as an example for creating our own or for testing when shopping for a player? Maybe off-site or hosted by doom9.org? Would be very useful for members. :)

Cheers.

[mezzanine]

I wonder if the original *.sup files work!:rolleyes:

[mezzanine]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Sometimes it repeats a frame and causes a jump in the video, but not always. I cant figure out whats the reason, seems to be random. Someimes it happens very often, sometimes never. But it was there with all firmware versions.
If you dont see it dont search for it ;)



You can download it here: link (ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/yuv.exe)
But its VERY poor. It needs Microsoft .net, crashes if you do anything unexpected and wont give you really correct YUV values, but its enough for subtitles.
Just copy the palette line from the .idx file (but without the leading "palette:") into the RGB Farbwerte box, hit the "Umrechnen" button and you will get the YUV values.

For example it will convert this:
000000, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, ffffff, 828282, dcdcdc, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282, 828282
into this:
108080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, eb8080, 828080, dc8080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080, 828080

For playback you will need:
moviename.ifo
moviename.sub
moviename.idx
moviename.avi

You can also add additional .srt files to that.

Can i find the sourcecode for yuv? i might be able to fix it..

[thop]

mezzanine, please see here: http://www.fourcc.org/fccyvrgb.php

with zhnujims tool i converted about 20 subtitles and only 2 gave wrong results/colors.

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by mezzanine
Can i find the sourcecode for yuv? i might be able to fix it..

Well, heres the source code: link (ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/yuv.zip)
But most likely its better you dont use it :D

Its a Sharpdevelop Project, dont know what you need so i zipped the whole project.

[mezzanine]

# The original palette of the DVD
palette: 0000e1, e83f07, 000000, fdfdfd, bebebe, d629e1, c46839, fcffc5, 11eb10, f3cdd9, 0fd80e, faff1a, 00006c, cc0ae9, d2ab0f, 730972

# Custom colors (transp idxs and the four colors)
custom colors: OFF, tridx: 0000, colors: 000000, 000000, 000000, 000000


Ok, now tell me do you want to change these color values in the .idx or in the .ifo file ?

[mezzanine]

Ok i fixed it..

http://mezzanine1.dyndns.org

Just open your *.idx file and press convert..

[thop]

It'd be nice if the tool supported drag&drop :) Also would you mind making the source, or at least the forumla that does the rgb2yuv, public? I'd like to make a python script that i can use with linux.

ps. and it actually appears all conversions were correct, just that i made a mistake and converted the subtitles twice by mistake.

[Zhnujm]

Nice program, mezzanine, much more comfortable this way.

Thanks :cool:

[mezzanine]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Nice program, mezzanine, much more comfortable this way.

Thanks :cool:

Thanks... It's gonna take part in my xvid gui (like autoGK):


http://mezzanine1.homeip.net/fusion.gif

[mezzanine]

Originally posted by thop
It'd be nice if the tool supported drag&drop :) Also would you mind making the source, or at least the forumla that does the rgb2yuv, public? I'd like to make a python script that i can use with linux.

ps. and it actually appears all conversions were correct, just that i made a mistake and converted the subtitles twice by mistake.


I haven't used drag&drop from explorer yet and i don't have much time now, as soon as i fix it i will let you know.

The formula is exactly the one used in yuv.exe (i just converted it to vb.net) and explained at http://www.fourcc.org/fccyvrgb.php

[new_age]

For DVP720 and LX3900 I made new firmware mods:

- DIVX subtitles: non transparent, white font with black outline
- DIVX subtitles: widened subtitle area (safe action area = 90% of full screen)
- DIVX subtitles: replaced both font (Standard /CP1250/, Cyrillic /CP1251/)
- Full width file browser
- No filename extension cut
- Separate file browser font (FONT 14-15)
- Replaced OSD font
- 21 different OSD Languages
- Press & Hold OK (or PLAY) button on remote to have GOTO functionality (1x SELECT chapter/file?, 2x GOTO time)
- Press & Hold >>| button for Fast Forward (undocumented feature of original firmware)
- Press & Hold |<< button for Fast Rewind (undocumented feature of original firmware)

Download:

DVP720 v33 New Age v10 (http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_DVP720_v33_NewAge_v10.rar)

LX3900 v36 New Age v11 (http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_LX3900_v36_NewAge_v11.rar)

[thop]

Originally posted by new_age
- Full width file browser
- No filename extension cut
Wow, I own the wrong player :(

[Sharro@Home]

Hi Philips and Mediatek,

You guys owe Cherry and OpenMtk a few thousands euros :)

All the guys in your (yes you... Philips and Mediatek) software dept. are sittin doing nothing or the wrong thing.

Be Public, be thankful... Christmas is coming.

To Cherry, OpenMtk and anybody else that contributed:

A Million :thanks: !!

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Yes, looks pretty cool :cool:
And with new_ages detailed docs about the remote codes im at least able to patch the Yamaha firmware to allow goto function.

Many thanks. :)

[mezzanine]

Is it possible to make all the changes (GOTO etc) to version 31 of the firmware ?
V33 stammers with subtitles on (DVD and DivX)

[new_age]

Originally posted by mezzanine
Is it possible to make all the changes (GOTO etc) to version 31 of the firmware ?
V33 stammers with subtitles on (DVD and DivX)

It is possible but I wont. No time no mood.

[thop]

Does the full width file browser actually mean that you can see more than 16 characters file names?

[new_age]

Originally posted by thop
Does the full width file browser actually mean that you can see more than 16 characters file names?

Check these images:

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_V36_NewAge_V9_FileBrowser.jpg

These are the upcoming next release:

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_NewAge_V12b11_1.jpg
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_NewAge_V12b11_2.jpg
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_NewAge_V12b11_3.jpg
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_NewAge_V12b11_4.jpg
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_NewAge_V12b11_5.jpg
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_NewAge_V12b11_6.jpg

[filledin]

Hiall,

I remember that it is possible to have multiple subtitle files per avi, and I also remember there is a naming trick to that. I tried:

movie.avi
movie.eng.srt
movie.gre.srt

But that didn't show any sub at all...

(ifo/idx/sub + second .srt works though)

I know I have seen this somewhere, I searched this thread but couldn't find anything. Help, please?

fi

[lordyu]

Originally posted by filledin
Hiall,

I remember that it is possible to have multiple subtitle files per avi, and I also remember there is a naming trick to that. I tried:

movie.avi
movie.eng.srt
movie.gre.srt

But that didn't show any sub at all...

(ifo/idx/sub + second .srt works though)

I know I have seen this somewhere, I searched this thread but couldn't find anything. Help, please?

fi
Maybe what you saw was for the Pioneer DV-470 and DV-575A? With the new official firmware both can now do what you're talking about plus no need for .ifo to play .idx/.sub subtitles. I'm not sure if any of the custom firmware for Philips DVP720SA here or at http://mtz.softpedia.com/ could do the same yet.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86990

[filledin]

ok, I see.

I forgot to say that I have MTZ latest firmware installed. It might be that the dots confuse the player. I will try _eng and _gre tonite.

BTW, Merry X-Mas everyone!

[LightningFire]

Originally posted by filledin
Hiall,

I remember that it is possible to have multiple subtitle files per avi, and I also remember there is a naming trick to that. I tried:

movie.avi
movie.eng.srt
movie.gre.srt

But that didn't show any sub at all...

(ifo/idx/sub + second .srt works though)

I know I have seen this somewhere, I searched this thread but couldn't find anything. Help, please?

fi

I have used multiple subtitles with the DVP720SA on firmware V24 I believe it is, by naming them
movie.avi
movie.01.srt
movie.02.srt

And that worked. Maybe it is the length of the code after movie. that bothers him or the fact that it is non-numerical code that you used.

An argument for the latter is that the player will show the selected subtitle file when switching as: 01/02 with the latter indicating the total number of subtitle files.

Greetings and
merry christmas to all.

[Zhnujm]

movie.eng.avi, movie.deu.avi also work for me.

[new_age]

New Age V12 firmwares for DVP720 and LX3900/3950 are out.

Download:

For DVP720:

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_DVP720_v33_NewAge_v12.rar

For LX3900/3950:

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_LX3900_v36_NewAge_v12.rar

Sample images:

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_v36_NewAge_v12_sample_1.png
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_v36_NewAge_v12_sample_2.png
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_v36_NewAge_v12_sample_3.png
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_v36_NewAge_v12_sample_4.png
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_v36_NewAge_v12_sample_5.png
http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/PhilipsLX3900_v36_NewAge_v12_sample_6.png

Feature list/history for both firmwares:

History:

V12:

- Exenteded current foldername length
- character codes 127..255 and space are shown in filenames
- MP3 TAG Info placed below file browser
- character codes 127..255 are shown in mp3 tag infos

V10/11:

- DIVX subtitles: widened subtitle area (safe action area = 90% of full screen)
- Full width file browser
- No filename extension cut
- Separate file browser font (FONT 14-15)
- 21 different OSD Languages
- Press & Hold OK (or PLAY) button on remote to have GOTO functionality (1x SELECT chapter/file?, 2x GOTO time)
- Press & Hold >>| button for Fast Forward (undocumented feature of original firmware)
- Press & Hold |<< button for Fast Rewind (undocumented feature of original firmware)

V1-V9:

- DIVX subtitles: non transparent, white font with black outline
- DIVX subtitles: replaced both font (Standard /CP1250/, Cyrillic /CP1251/)
- Replaced OSD font

[dpom86]

It seems the DVP720 is becomming quite a mature player now, thanks to New_Age and OpenMtk :D !

But it wont play 1024x576 Xvids, right?
It seems that that leaves me with a sigma-chipset player?
If it can play 1024x576 I think I'll buy it, else... I'll keep looking :( .

PS. Realy like the firmware now ;) , it's the reason I wont to buy it :D !

[Sharro]

New Age,

Thanks for this valuable Christmas gift :)

Now, my question, you've seen what mozarella has been doing with the PHI and PIO fw's, and looks like he got around subtitle stuttering (I haven't tried...but I will).

Is there any chance to implement it on you'r FW? Just dreaming...

All the best,


Sharro

[new_age]

Originally posted by Sharro
New Age,

Thanks for this valuable Christmas gift :)

Now, my question, you've seen what mozarella has been doing with the PHI and PIO fw's, and looks like he got around subtitle stuttering (I haven't tried...but I will).

Is there any chance to implement it on you'r FW? Just dreaming...

All the best,


Sharro

I didn't see any solution for shuttering yet.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by new_age
I didn't see any solution for shuttering yet.

The solution came from the merged fw between Pioneer and Philips.

Just my dream to see it all together in a close to perfection firware.

All the best,

Thanks

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by Sharro
The solution came from the merged fw between Pioneer and Philips.

Just my dream to see it all together in a close to perfection firware.

All the best,

Thanks

Sharro

Theres no proof that it really works until theres a merged firmware that allows avi playback.
Lets hope they get it to work.

[mezzanine]

Only solution to switch back to V31. I don't know if it's only my 720SA but with V33 and every modified firmware so far i get seriously lots of stammering (DVD).

[filledin]

Hiall,

back to my earlier post. Now I think I tried everything I can think of:

movie.avi movie.01.srt movie.02.srt
movie.avi movie01.srt movie02.srt
movie.avi movie.el.srt movie.en.srt
movie.avi movie_el.srt movie_en.srt
movie.avi movie.gre.srt movie.eng.srt


nothing works. Pressing subtitles I only get the not available sign in the upper left corner. idx/sub + one srt does work though (and also multiple languages in idx/sub).

This is with the mtz firmware (which is based on new age's v10, which in turn is based on philips' v33).

I remember it did work though. Just can't remember if it was with the original (probably v24), or the Philips update (v33). (I had for a week or two the philips update).

a bit unnerving...

[Sharro]

Does anybody has a recent experience with V31 ?

What problems did it had ?

Could the changes done to V33 be done to V31?

Sorry but I've never tested it.

All the best,


Sharro

[mezzanine]

V31 DVD Subtitles are perfect, no stammering or anything.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by mezzanine
V31 DVD Subtitles are perfect, no stammering or anything.

Thx for the info.

New_Age could you try some of your subtitle patches in this fw (center + white font + black outline)? If the differences are not too big compared to V33.

An Excellent 2005 for everybody... may it be the year of the perfect fw for MT1389.

All the best,


Sharro

[Sharro@Home]

Originally posted by mezzanine
V31 DVD Subtitles are perfect, no stammering or anything.

How about Xvid subtitles ?

All the best,

Sharro

[mezzanine]

I think xvid subtitles are smooth too.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by mezzanine
I think xvid subtitles are smooth too.

Could you check carefully ? Before we can even think of trying anything with this fw ...

All the best,

Sharro

[new_age]

Please try it Sharro because you're the best checking shuttering. ;)
If no shuttering I'll do some basic modifications.

[Sharro@Home]

It is much less evident, almost unoticeable (shorter stutter duration), more random BUT... lines are cut in the end and not fully displayed. Also there are no trayling blocks on my Star Wars intro (present since V33 official).

Another disappointment...

Subtitles are centered white non transparent but not outlined.

Will we ever get non stuttering divx subtitles now that we've come so far ?

All the best,

Sharro

PS: upgrading to C/NA V12... stutters (blaim Philips everyday)...but looks so damn well!! :-)

[Zhnujm]

For me V31 and V33 looks the same (AVI subtitles).
Its always one duplicated frame.

btw, does anbody know if the subtitle centering is in the 8032 code or in the ARM code ?

[thop]

i've never seen stuttering, only subtitle flickering.

[new_age]

Can anyone test V24 firmware regarding shuttering?

[Zhnujm]

Seems to be the same.
I have absolutely no idea why its visible for some people and for some not, i already thought about muxing/codec/audio/resolution and tried so many combinations. But then, its sometimes even visible with dvd subtitles...

Im really out of ideas.

Only thing i can say is that it seems that it happens with players that have centered subtitles. Seen this with the Xoro 311pro (beta firmware), Philips 720, Yamaha550 and now with a modified firmware for my elta 8883 that has centered subtitles. Before, without centered subs it was not visible.
Maybe the code for centering uses to much time ?

But that would not explain why it also happens with DVD subs and sub/idx files.

[new_age]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Seems to be the same.
I have absolutely no idea why its visible for some people and for some not, i already thought about muxing/codec/audio/resolution and tried so many combinations. But then, its sometimes even visible with dvd subtitles...

Im really out of ideas.

Only thing i can say is that it seems that it happens with players that have centered subtitles. Seen this with the Xoro 311pro (beta firmware), Philips 720, Yamaha550 and now with a modified firmware for my elta 8883 that has centered subtitles. Before, without centered subs it was not visible.
Maybe the code for centering uses to much time ?

But that would not explain why it also happens with DVD subs and sub/idx files.

It has nothing to do with alignment I think.

I tried subs with top+left align on philips and still shuttering. And my Yamada6600 with top+center doesn't shutter. (Philips originally have bottom+center)

My opinion is that the movie plackback is stopped for a moment while the subtitle is drawn. If your movie is full with movement than it will be noticable very much. But if the movie have a lot of static scenes you won't notice it.

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by new_age
My opinion is that the movie plackback is stopped for a moment while the subtitle is drawn. If your movie is full with movement than it will be noticable very much. But if the movie have a lot of static scenes you won't notice it.

But its not that its always stopped. You can even rewind a scene and sometimes its smooth, sometimes not. I captured the players output so its easy to spot.

Or maybe this stopping is only visible (duplicated frame) when its in the near of a screen refresh ?
Thats would maybe explain the randomness.

[Sharro@Home]

Try:

http://members.netmadeira.com/carlos.santos/teste/Star.Wars.Intro.rar

Try to find randomness... I never did, I always saw stuttering at the same time/frame.

Please confirm if you see trailing block on the image letters (not on the subtitles (these blocks are present from V33 official beyond)

For me it has something to do with buffers ...

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Nice, now we have a test file.
I will check if the stuttering is always at the same time.

And yes there are some color blocks, looks like a not working xvid custom matrice for me. I thought this was solved some time ago.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
... a not working xvid custom matrice for me. I thought this was solved some time ago.

Good old HVS-Best quant matrix.

Blocks not present in V31.

Blocks are present in the encodes of the three episodes intros.

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

I captured the file 5 times with V33.
I can only find one subtitle that is sometimes smooth: "O IMPERIO CONTRA-ATACA", thats all.
Its also the first time i seen that there is more than 1 frame duplicated.
So its a very good test file...

I also checked with my Yamaha V34. Around half of the subtitles are smooth with this player.

[Sharro@Home]

Zhnujm could it be that the duplicate frame captured is in fact a stop in the original (if there is a stop wouldn't be captured as a repeated frame)?

Cause looking carefully on TV I only see stops/stutters.

I think we should exclude the custom quant matrix as a source for this problem, otherwise it would also occur without subtitles being displayed.

All the best.

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Yes, of course. The movie stops and the actual frame is repeated during capturing.
Sometimes with your file even more than one frame so the movie must stop for more than 40ms.

[new_age]

I have a Philips DVP762 with V27 software. Only for 2 days... :(

It doesn't shutter, stammer whatever...
:confused:

I'll try this SW intro.

[new_age]

I tried V36 for DVP762.
I don't see any shuttering/stammering that were obvious with LX3900 V36.
I even tried this SW intro. There is no shuttering but the blocking is there until next keyframe.
If I'm right this fw is worth to be checked regarding subtitle/frame shuttering.

[Zhnujm]

I can check this weekend only with my Yamaha (works with this firmware) but i agree its much much better than the 720 v33.
But not perfect.

Seems it is much faster at displaying subtitles.
For example, the "O diabolico Darth Vader, obcecado em encontrar o jovem Skywalker..." needs 4 frames in the 720 firmware to appear on the screen and only 2 frames with the 762 firmware.

[new_age]

So there is a hope for a good firmware...

[Sharro@Home]

As I understand very well the difference between the 2 and 4 frames stop, I can say that along this movie the majority of the stops is a 2 frame one so... my family, myself and ALL users beg for the good attention to this FW :D

Will 762 work on 720?

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro@Home]

--- In mt13x9@yahoogroups.com, mosarella <no_reply@y...> wrote:

Still in search for a better DVD-Video firmware for the DVP720, I have
tried some new firmware merging.

I was reading at the doom9 forum that the firmware for DVP762 v36 was
much better performing than DVP720 v33, so I tried this on my player.

Well, the DVP762 firmware goes perfect into the DVP720, with the
following exceptions:

1.
Upgrade filename will be DVP762.BIN after upgrade (this is easy to change)

2.
SACD is not there anymore

3.
Analog multichannel is not enabled. This is also good for the people
that are anoyed by the blue surround LED comming on all the time.

The good thing is that DivX with subtitling and MP3 is working fine.


OK, my next try was to exchange the 8032 block with the block from DVP720.

The result is now:
1.
DivX is working, but no subtitles.

2.
SACD is now working

3.
Multichannel is switched on, but I have not tested if it is realy working.


So...
What neads to be fixed is the DivX subtitling, and we will have a
better firmware for DVP720. With no DVD-Video stuttering when
subtitles are switched on.

Does anyone know how the ARM call is done for diplaying subtitles
within the DVP720? Is it any recommended doc I should read?

I think that by changing the subtitle call to ARM routine, maybe will
bring back the subtitles for DivX.


BR
lee



My reasons for trying to get a new firmware you find in the following
link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9/message/2728
--- End forwarded message ---

IT WORKS!!

New_Age yhuhhuuu :D

[Sharro]

Does anybody know where I can find it ?

All the best,

Sharro

[new_age]

Originally posted by Sharro
Does anybody know where I can find it ?

All the best,

Sharro

P4C site... :)

[new_age]

Do anyone can try it to put DVP762 V35 ARM section into DVP720?

[Sharro@Home]

--- In mt13x9@yahoogroups.com, mosarella <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to only change the ARM code withing the DVP720
> code, and you are right. Only the ARM code shall be copied from DVP762 v36
>
> I have done some testing with this test fw, and it is looking very good.
>
> I have tested following:
>
> 1. DVD-Video:
> No more stuttering when subtitle turns on, and audio/video sync is
> perfect. DTS and AC3 surround decoding is working fine. Stereo downmix
> works fine.
>
> 2. miniDVD.
> Works fine
>
> 3. VCD 2.0
> Works fine
>
> 4. SVCD
> Works fine.
> Also audio with with MPEG2 5.1 surround is working!
>
> 5. CD-Audio
> Works fine
>
> 6. DTS-CD
> Works fine
>
> 7. Kodak Picture CD / JPEG CD
> Works fine
>
> 8. MP3
> Works fine
>
> 9. DivX / MPEG4
> Works fine
> Also subtitling. Much less stuttering then subtitles turns on!
>
> 10. SACD
> Works fine
> Both stereo and multichannel
>
>
> ... so my conclusion so far is that this DVP762 v36 ARM code is
> compatible with the DVP720, and it makes the player better than with
> the v33 fw.
>
> BR
> lee
>
>

@New Age when can I dream of your own merged 720V33/762V36 ?

All the best,

Sharro

[new_age]

Hello!

I'll make V13 firmwares for DVP720 and LX3900 because this patch works for LX3900 also! (I risked again my player ;))

I even top aligned my subtitles (currently all philips clones have bottom-center aligned) to "increase" the display speed of subtitles. ;)

NOW we have a perfect player. I can finally sit back and enjoy.

[mezzanine]

Originally posted by new_age
Hello!

I'll make V13 firmwares for DVP720 and LX3900 because this patch works for LX3900 also! (I risked again my player ;))

I even top aligned my subtitles (currently all philips clones have bottom-center aligned) to "increase" the display speed of subtitles. ;)

NOW we have a perfect player. I can finally sit back and enjoy.

Are the firmwares ready ? (I can't wait)

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by new_age
I even top aligned my subtitles (currently all philips clones have bottom-center aligned) to "increase" the display speed of subtitles. ;)


Could you explain how you done this ? Or the position in the firmware so i can compare to the original Philips ?
I want to do the same thing with my Yamaha.

Unfortunatly i cannot use the ARM section of the 762 with my player. (funny as i can use the ARM section of the 720 and can also use the complete 762 firmware...) so i need every little improvement.

[new_age]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Could you explain how you done this ? Or the position in the firmware so i can compare to the original Philips ?
I want to do the same thing with my Yamaha.

Unfortunatly i cannot use the ARM section of the 762 with my player. (funny as i can use the ARM section of the 720 and can also use the complete 762 firmware...) so i need every little improvement.

The latest MtkWindows is in the finish... It will do.

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by new_age
The latest MtkWindows is in the finish... It will do.

Thats good news :)

[m99]

Is the V13 firmware ready? Where?

[Alexander Maxim]

Hold your horses, fellas! :D
The v13 is in tests now.

[Alexander Maxim]

To: "mt13x9" <mt13x9@yahoogroups.com>
From: "New Age"
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:00:37 +0100
Subject: [mt13x9] DVP720SA NA v13


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mt13x9_firmware_7/files/Philips_DVP720_v33_NewAge_v13.rar

or

http://jatekosok.speier.hu/pub/Philips_DVP720_v33_NewAge_v13.rar

NA

[thop]

Is there a way to scroll faster with the player, like scrolling per page and not per item? With lots of files scrolling takes a while all the way down.

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by thop
Is there a way to scroll faster with the player, like scrolling per page and not per item? With lots of files scrolling takes a while all the way down.
Keep the up or down arrows pressed. It will scroll faster.

[thop]

Yeah i noticed, but it's still kinda slow if you got a few hundred files in one directory.

[Zhnujm]

Btw, AVI subtitles are perfectly smooth if you use this new DivX fusion AVI file format with integrated subtitles.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Btw, AVI subtitles are perfectly smooth if you use this new DivX fusion AVI file format with integrated subtitles.

Can we know more about it ?

So in the end could this be a muxing problem ?

Does Divx Fusion support xvid ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Dont think its a muxing problem, divx fusion integrates the subtitles as bitmaps in the avi file, thats a bit different as the current external text files. I think xvid is supported but the muxing program does not support qpel.

theres more info about that in this thread: link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88988)

[mosarella]

If you like to give this firmware a try, it is a bit closer to Philips original, but with the DVP762V36 ARM code.

http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&st=0&p=2399&#entry2399

(I was planning to post this info a bit earlier, but the 5 days quarantine of doom9 site for new members, made it impossible)

BR
lee



Originally posted by Sharro@Home
--- In mt13x9@yahoogroups.com, mosarella <no_reply@y...> wrote:
>
> I have been trying to only change the ARM code withing the DVP720
> code, and you are right. Only the ARM code shall be copied from DVP762 v36
>
> I have done some testing with this test fw, and it is looking very good.
>
> I have tested following:
>
> 1. DVD-Video:
> No more stuttering when subtitle turns on, and audio/video sync is
> perfect. DTS and AC3 surround decoding is working fine. Stereo downmix
> works fine.
>
> 2. miniDVD.
> Works fine
>
...
> 10. SACD
> Works fine
> Both stereo and multichannel
>
> ... so my conclusion so far is that this DVP762 v36 ARM code is
> compatible with the DVP720, and it makes the player better than with
> the v33 fw.
>
> BR
> lee
>
>

@New Age when can I dream of your own merged 720V33/762V36 ?

All the best,

Sharro

[m99]

Does some of the new modified firmwares have digital out for SACD?

[mosarella]

Sorry, none of my versions do this.

There is some kind of copy protection sceme with SACD, and I don't know how to get around that.

I would also like to have SACD digital out. What is even more stupid is that for hybrid SACD/CD-DA, it is not possible to have digital out for the CD-DA (CD-audio) part.

If you like to disable SACD and surround decoding on the analog outputs, you can try this firmware:

DVP762_v36_for_DVP720.zip (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=562)

See also here for some of my experimental firmwares (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259)

It will make your DVP720SA behave like a DVP762, and I think you will get CD-DA digital out for hybrid disc's.

If there is requests for it, maybe I will upgrade this with the features of DVP720_LEE_V007.zip (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=615)



BR
lee

Originally posted by m99
Does some of the new modified firmwares have digital out for SACD?

[Sharro@Home]

Everybody happy with (Thanks God) much better FW (Cherry V13, LEE_007) for which many good people contributed (yep...some much more...other much less...but I'm nobody :D .

IMHO Packet bitstream should be the next bug to kill FW 007's of this world.

All the best,

Sharro

[SeeMoreDigital]

I'm sorry to say, I've not kept up to date with your thread Sharro :(

Can you confirm whether this player can detect Mpeg4 PAR/DAR signalling in .AVI?


Cheers

[Omron]

Hi,

is it possible to implement a function into one of the modified firmwares for the DVP720SA to playback the stereo sound on S-VCDs via the player's digital output ?
If so, one would be able to connect the player to the a/v-receiver with just one cable instead of using a digital cable for AC3 and DTS sound on DVDs AND a simple analog cable for the stereo sound on S-VCDs.

Just my two cents...

Regards,

Omron

[Sharro]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I'm sorry to say, I've not kept up to date with your thread Sharro :(

Can you confirm whether this player can detect Mpeg4 PAR/DAR signalling in .AVI?


Cheers

SeeMoreDigital when I tried Mpeg4 PAR/DAR in avi last time it was definetly not working (first Firmware) but I never tried it again.

Unfortunately, I burned my graphic card (9700PRO AIW) and I'm waiting for a replacement, when I get it I will burn a CD with test files that I kindly ask you for your help in where I could download them.

All the best,

Sharro

[SeeMoreDigital]

No problem ;)


Cheers

[m99]

Is there someone who have a link to the different "hacked" firmwares? My harddisk died, luckily I recovered allmost all, but not these files.

[Sharro]

Originally posted by m99
Is there someone who have a link to the different "hacked" firmwares? My harddisk died, luckily I recovered allmost all, but not these files.

You should try at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/mt13x9/
http://lazadezign.freeweb.hu

I also have like 10 different fw's on my hd, if you don't find of the ones you need, tell me which, and I'll check.

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro@Home]

Hi Ppl,

Just got an email from MadPalace regarding his new fw's.

Check them at http://www.madpalace.nl/mad720sa/

All the best,

Sharro

[m99]

re: Sharro
Thx
Have downloaded the latest firmware from MadPalace now.

[shemet]

mosarella wrote:

Hi,

I am looking for the DVD-S657 because it can do DVD-AUDIO, and the player is most likely a Philips DVP720 type of player sold as OEM to Yamaha.

I would like to see if parts of this fw can be used to enable DVD-AUDIO in players like DVP720, DVP762, DVD-S550, ...

Hope somebody can extract this fw from a player.

BR
Lee



let's help him!

[m99]

http://www.ateme.com/press/pr_ATEME_NeroDigital_MediaTek_2005_03.htm

Waiting, waiting... :-(

[m99]

Did my poor language-skills trick me here, or is there going to be a new firmware?

[Sharro@Home]

From: "MAD Palace" <jan@...>
Date: Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:42 am
Subject: MAD720SA version 05 and 06 available for the summer damadman2002
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Hello DVP720SA user,

Finally I finished my final firmware for download!
The firmware is available for both old and new servo units (shipped
with respectively v33 and v35).

What is new?
- STEREO output when multichannel is enabled
- Some people also report better CD audio quality
- Selectable standard or big font for DivX Subtitling
- Fixed DivX subtitle centering
- Heavy status icons
- Screensaver icon

And all the previous stuff:
- GOTO functionality by pressing and holding DISPLAY
- Modern file icons in the file overview
- Cool icons in the setup menu
- Standard or large font for DivX subtitles
- DivX subtitle position is lower for PAL television
- Widened DivX subtitle window for more characters
- More characters in MP3 information window
- Removed "ALBUM:" from MP3 information window
- Improved video stability during DivX subtitle

But watch your hardware!

[Note 1]
The firmware is available in two flavours:
Product types DVP720SA/00, DVP720SA/02 and DVP720SA/05 can handle
some special software and is compatible with MAD v06.
Product types DVP720SA/69, DVP720SA/75 and some DVP720SA/p00 cannot
handle this special software and need to be upgraded with MAD v05.

[Note 2]
When your player is pre-installed with v35 the player will not
automatically restart. This is because of an upgrade bug in v35 which
could also KILL your player. If upgrading succeeds the problem will
no longer occur.

Enjoy my hard work!

Greetings,
MAD Palace
http://www.madpalace.nl/dvp720sa.html

[Sharro]

From: "mosarella" <mosarella@...>
Date: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:42 pm
Subject: DVP720SA LEE V010 firmware update (based on V37) mosarella
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Hi,

I have updated the DPV720 firmware with the following features:

release 22.june.2005, V010-5x by LEE
------------------------------------
- Changed to codebase DVP720 V37, all ARM and DSP is original V37
- All features in previous versions are supported
- Blue front panel LED's are switched off when selecting Display DIM = 40%
- Subtitle window increased to 640 pixcel's wide



http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&view=findpost&p=7876


BR
Lee

[m99]

When was the latest officially firmware released? Isn't a very long time since?

[mezzanine]

When was the latest officially firmware released? Isn't a very long time since?

Is this player capable of MP4 playback (not avi container, mp4) and if yes, does it support subtitles ?(ttxt)

[m99]

Nope, but I think the chipset is, anyone?

[SeeMoreDigital]

The clue to the players chip-set is in the threads title :eek:

[Alexander Maxim]

Hello everybody,
This firmware's RISC will add xvid packed bitstream playing capability to dvp720 and all compatible players.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/h/hts3500s_12/hts3500s_12_fus_eng.zip

[Sharro]

Hello everybody,
This firmware's RISC will add xvid packed bitstream playing capability to dvp720 and all compatible players.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/h/hts3500s_12/hts3500s_12_fus_eng.zip

Alexander are you working on a merged DVP720 V37 with HTS3500 risc ?

I see on the pdf that there is also support for DIVX6 (Not that I use them) chapters and subtitles. Will that come with the risc also ?

I'm pretty happy with V37 modded fw's around, but Packed Bitstream would definetly save on the hassle of unpacking many movies...

Any changes regarding the bug of 4:3 movies on 16:9 displays ? Soon I'll buy a 16:9 LCD ....

Alexander will you share this info on MT13x9 yahoo group ?

Thanks for the info.

All the best,


Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Alexander are you working on a merged DVP720 V37 with HTS3500 risc ?

I see on the pdf that there is also support for DIVX6 (Not that I use them) chapters and subtitles. Will that come with the risc also ?

I'm pretty happy with V37 modded fw's around, but Packed Bitstream would definetly save on the hassle of unpacking many movies...

Any changes regarding the bug of 4:3 movies on 16:9 displays ? Soon I'll buy a 16:9 LCD ....

Alexander will you share this info on MT13x9 yahoo group ?

Thanks for the info.

All the best,


Sharro

Tomorrow I'll share the firmware and the info. I have no idea how to test the bug you are mentioning, cause I don't have a 16:9...
It's nice to hear from you again, Sharro :)

Alexander

Edit: I think you didn't read quite carefully that pdf... It doesn't say anything about supporting divx6 chapters, only multi-subtitles and multi-audio tracks are supported, but this feature has been present all along in the DVP720...

[Sharro]

...Edit: I think you didn't read quite carefully that pdf... It doesn't say anything about supporting divx6 chapters, only multi-subtitles and multi-audio tracks are supported, but this feature has been present all along in the DVP720...

I guess my eyes read .... my dreams :stupid:

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

.....

Alexander will you share this info on MT13x9 yahoo group ?
.....
Sharro
It's done.

[Sharro]

Hello everybody,
This firmware's RISC will add xvid packed bitstream playing capability to dvp720 and all compatible players.
http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/h/hts3500s_12/hts3500s_12_fus_eng.zip

But it takes us a few steps back in terms of stummering/stuttering with subtitle display on divx... unfortunately. If I well remember to a pre V.34 state.

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

With peli's fw + the HTS3500S RISC, I have no stammering AT ALL. Maybe the v34 is not that compatible with that firmware, but when I tried the v34 (MadMan's mod) with this RISC, I had no stammering. Weird. I'll try it too tonight one more time.

[Sharro]

With peli's fw + the HTS3500S RISC, I have no stammering AT ALL. Maybe the v34 is not that compatible with that firmware, but when I tried the v34 (MadMan's mod) with this RISC, I had no stammering. Weird. I'll try it too tonight one more time.

Alexander if you have any star wars movie with subtitles, the prelude is great to check for stuttering, don't even look at the subtitles just look at the prelude's letter going into the deep space, it's quite easy to spot the stutters.

All the best,

Sharro

PS: If possible email me Peli+HTS35000S and I'll test it (I'm using Peli V37 at this moment)

[Alexander Maxim]

Done.

[Sharro]

... any star wars movie with subtitles, the prelude is great to check for stuttering, don't even look at the subtitles just look at the prelude's letter going into the deep space, it's quite easy to spot the stutters.


I've reuploaded the Star.Wars.Intro.rar here:

http://members.netmadeira.com/carlos.santos/teste/Star.Wars.Intro.rar

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Tested peli's fw + hts3500s RISC with Star Wars intro. Very small stammering and only with very long subtitles. It stammers less than with DVP762's ARM, in my opinion.

[Sharro]

Tested peli's fw + hts3500s RISC with Star Wars intro. Very small stammering and only with very long subtitles. It stammers less than with DVP762's ARM, in my opinion.

I had not tested against DVP762 for a while, did you test PELI V37 ?

In fact after reseting to default with Peli+hts3500s risc the stammering came down to a level very close to V37.

I do believe that the stammers are directly related to subtitle size.

I'm preparing a .srt for that intro with subtitles of increasing sizes to see if I can get to a conclusion regarding the number of characters that won't cause stammering.

Another thing, did you notice the blocks that remain on the image between subtitle displays ? As if a buffer was not cleared or something?

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

So far peli has made only one version for dvp720, so...
And no, I didn't notice any remaining blocks on the image between subtitles... Geez, it's like we're talking about 2 different machines here. What player do you have?(servo and ECO board) Mine is old servo (03.15) and ECO 13

[Sharro]

So far peli has made only one version for dvp720, so...
And no, I didn't notice any remaining blocks on the image between subtitles... Geez, it's like we're talking about 2 different machines here. What player do you have?(servo and ECO board) Mine is old servo (03.15) and ECO 13

Here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=518872#post518872

DPV 720SA/02 the first one someone ever bought in Portugal, it's even older servo than yours. How can I check ECO board ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

I think by pressing DISPLAY with the tray open. It should display something like:

SD6.1 V37 720 - 00 2 13
SERVO: 03150000 REG:0

13 is the ECO board version

[Sharro]

I think by pressing DISPLAY with the tray open. It should display something like:

SD6.1 V37 720 - 00 2 13
SERVO: 03150000 REG:0

13 is the ECO board version

Hmmpppfff I'm depressed ... if you are right my ECO Board is 09...

All the best,

Sharro

[Alexander Maxim]

Why are you depressed? That doesn't mean it's worse than mine; it means that the firmware is not "Made by New Age", for to be perfect ;)

[Sharro]

I bought a few Verbatims DVD-R DL, my writer doesn't support them :stupid: so... I'm gonna change the writer but the doubt came to my mind.

Anybody can confirm if it supports DVD-R DL ?

All the best,


Sharro

Happy New Year

[mezzanine]

I burnt a verbatim dual layer with my nec 3540A yesterday and it works flawlesly.

Happy new year

[Sharro]

I burnt a verbatim dual layer ...

-R or +R ?????

I only have experience with +R DL.

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro]

Guys...

Try it!!!

http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&view=findpost&p=15416

Stuttering/Stammering went to an unoticeable level.

Packed Bitstream is no longer a problem.

DVD playback has improved.

We're getting closer and closer to a great fw.

All the best.

Sharro

[m99]

Have also used it for a few days, it's really great.

[m99]

re: Sharro
Any news about your enquiry at Softpedia?

[Sharro]

Hi Ppl,

Just announcing that new fw has been released by Peli (v 02) at:

http://videopeli.szm.sk/subory/dvd_en.htm

I've tried his V01 with the HTS3500S risc (for packed bitstream and improved dvd playback) and in my opinion is the one with most user configurations available regarding subtitles, also has multiple divx subtitle selection.

All the best,

Sharro

[m99]

What is the maximum resolution this player handle? Is 960x544 to big, or is it something else that limit it?

[m99]

Isn't there anyone else who download "Prison Break", "Commander in Chief", "West Wing", "Lost" etc. ?

[m99]

Final release of v2.10 FW for DVP720.
http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&st=480

[m99]

Peli's FW v. 03 is out, but there are reports that it may freeze your player, so be careful. See the softpedia-link for more info.

[ultra69]

I've tried PeLi's fw v.2 and v.3 in Yamaha S550, for me it's the best fw of all philips/yamaha modified fws available. However, there's a problem - usually after several days of trouble-free usage the player switches itself off a few seconds after you turn it on. This error has been reported by other yamaha dvd550 users who tried dvp720 based fws but as far as I know there's no philips user who has the same problem using a fw from yamaha...

Any help how to solve this annoying bug will be appreciated.

BTW I noticed occasional freezes in v.3 too; there weren't any with v.2 fw.

[Alexander Maxim]

forget about v03 from peli; it causes random freezes and turn-offs of the player. This peli guy might know a thing or two about customizing firmwares, but he doesn't know basic things, for example the replacing of the whole RISC instead of the replacing of the ARM Codes only, because ARM+DSP are related and work together.

[m99]

Is there any difference in image-quality (mpeg2, divx, xvid etc.?) between these two firmwares?

[ultra69]

No difference in image quality at all

[Alexander Maxim]

Everyone is invited to try out Peli's latest version from here (http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=259&st=560&gopid=24341&#entry24341) , it works flawlessly on my machine for several weeks now.

[Sharro]

Alexander :-) You're still kicking!

My Dvp720 is still kicking but now I also got a 5960/12 to play with.

I've been searching for information about Aspect Ratio flags on any of the two as I'm considering to move to anamorphic encoding, have you tested recently these with avi files ?

Any help appreciated.

All the best,

Sharro

[Sharro]

Just an alert here!

A 2 pass encode with didee's 6of9 to test in my standalones together with Heini's (with inter-matrix 15's replaced by 16's), results:

Philips DVP720SA/02
===Heini's Intermatrix Min 16 -> perfect play
===Didee's SixOfNive hvs -> artifacts on video (blocks)

Philips DVP5960/12
===Heini's Intermatrix Min 16 -> perfect play
===Didee's SixOfNive hvs -> perfect play

Video was 704x288 pixels Xvid 2BF, QP, PB, Chroma Optimizer, Trellis with 1593Kbps set for the second pass.

A pitty my good old DVP720SA/02 is beginning to age.

All the best,

Sharro