Copy protection?? chapters in random order in vobs

[doomed@ripping]

Hey,

I am trying to backup to avi and have a problem. The DVD plays fine in my standalone DVD player or while using PowerDVD but if I open the vobs individually i find that the movie is completely jumbled up. The first vob contains chapters from the middle of the movie and the starting of the dvd is somewhere in the 3rd vob. I tried ripping it with AutoGK but it ripped it the same way in the incorrect order. Tried RobotRip and GK but no use. Decryting it also did not solve the problem.

The DVD in question contains only one Title and no angles, one audio stream and one subtitle stream. I never looked into this before and have come across this the first time because the disc was scratched by a friend when he borrowed it. I want to make a copy pronto as it's a pretty expensive DVD and i can't buy it again.

Is this some weird form of copy protection because it plays just fine in hardware or software players but copying doesn't work. The company that made this DVD experimented with copy protection in audio cd's as well and those discs don't run too well. (Sure pressing shift while popping in the disc on my pc works fine but the disc doesnt run on the car cd changer or my portable mp3 player)

I'd be happy to post any info about the vobs etc if you guided me in the direction and told me what info to provide.

Thanks.

Anshu

[jggimi]

Have you tried ripping using DVD Decrypter in IFO mode? That should give you the PGC in proper sequence. (You mentioned R4R, and that should have produced an IFO-parsed rip.)

[killingspree]

hi doomed!

could you send me a copy of your ifo files! especially the one vts_01_0.ifo (or whatever is the ifo for the main vts set!)

i dropped you a PM with my email addy!

thanks in advance
steVe

[doomed@ripping]

Hey jggimi,

I did decrypt it. I used R4R and the parsed vobs still gave random chapters. I encoded the whole thing twice
1. with the vobs copied from dvd and using GK
2. Using AutoGK after parsing the vobs (I know according to the rules of the forum I can't complain about free software but... nevertheless life was so much better before having to decrypt each and every dvd for use with AutoGK :)

DvD2AvI takes over 20 minutes for this DVD when others require rarely more than 4-5.

I even tried Dr.DivX in some strange hope that it might work but it didn't.

Edited per Rule 6

[doomed@ripping]

Just tried smartripper... didn't work, sequence of chapters still jumbled. Length of resulting avi's is the same as length of movie. just the order of chapters is jumbled.

So far I have tried vStrip, DVD decrypter and now smartripper.

Do I need to look into using something else for this dvd. I have no idea what to do. is re-authoring a solution? what are the chances that the order of chapters will be ok once re-authored? i've never done it so have no clue.

[killingspree]

Originally posted by doomed@ripping

Do I need to look into using something else for this dvd. I have no idea what to do. is re-authoring a solution? what are the chances that the order of chapters will be ok once re-authored? i've never done it so have no clue.

now i haven't seen the ifo yet, so i can't say for sure, but maybe ripping each chapter (cell) seperately and then appending them in an avisynth script might be your way to go! it wouldn't be too much of a hassle! just a longer line of mpeg2source("..") + mpeg2source(...) + ...

kr
steVe

[jggimi]

The audio would be a problem using that method, killingspree. One would need to convert it to .wav, then add wavsource() and an audiodub() for each one as well. Such a solution would be beyond the average Newbie, I would think.

[killingspree]

true ;)

[doomed@ripping]

It's way above and beyond me :)

Jggimi u got a pvt msg bro :)