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bond
10th June 2004, 15:44
as rjamorims latest test showed that the vorbis 1.0.1 encoder from xiph is not pushing the vorbis format to its limits by far, i think its maybe useful to present all currently existing vorbis encoders (yep there are much more than only the one from Xiph and aoTuV :) ):

1) Xiph 1.0.1 (http://www.rarewares.org/files/ogg/oggenc2.3CVSMinGW.zip) - reference encoder by Xiph

2) aoTuV beta 2 (http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/test.html) - tuning by Aoyumi
3) QKTune beta 3.2 (http://www.rarewares.org/quantumknot/oggencqk32.exe) - tuning by QuantumKnot
4) GT3b2 (http://www.rarewares.org/files/ogg/oggenc2.3GT3b2MinGW.zip) - tuning by Garf
5) Modest Tuning beta 3 (http://homepage3.nifty.com/nyaochi/soft/dist/oggencmtb3.zip) - tuning by nyaochi

6) aoTuV beta 2 + QKTune beta 3.2 (http://www.rarewares.org/quantumknot/oggencaqk2.exe)
7) GT3b2 with HF reduction (http://www.rarewares.org/quantumknot/oggenchfr.exe)

basically all tunings are still based on the reference encoder 1.0.1 from Xiph, but should already beat it qualitywise in many cases:

for finding the best vorbis encoder to use in rjamorims listening test at 128kbps some people (including me) did a listening test comparing the vorbis encoders 1/2/3/5/7 as discussed here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=20389&)
and my results where this:
http://8ung.at/bond/ergebnis_bond.gif
so also the other encoders are definitely worth to "listen to" :)

KpeX
12th June 2004, 05:57
Thanks bond! I haven't had much time to update the Vorbis FAQ lately, but due to recent developments it definitely needs new information, and this will definitely be a good source.

What is the current state of aoTuV development? Is Aoyumi still working on it, and is beta 2 fairly close to a stable release?

Cheers,

bond
12th June 2004, 11:00
Originally posted by KpeX
What is the current state of aoTuV development? Is Aoyumi still working on it, and is beta 2 fairly close to a stable release?hm its a compliant vorbis encoder, so it should be save to use
in rjamorims test aoTuV experiment [20040402] has been used, and proved to work very well, so i dont think that there are problems with the current version :)

Asmodeus
13th June 2004, 19:26
Which bitrate/quality you use: 128 as always :?:

EDIT:
Of course 128. Sorry, I must be blind eyes :rolleyes:

QuantumKnot
15th June 2004, 06:41
Originally posted by bond

for finding the best vorbis encoder to use in rjamorims listening test at 128kbps some people (including me) did a listening test comparing the vorbis encoders 1/2/3/5/7 as discussed here (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?showtopic=20389&)
and my results where this:
http://8ung.at/bond/ergebnis_bond.gif
so also the other encoders are definitely worth to "listen to" :)

I should point out, that version of aoTuV used in the vorbis listening test (seen up above) is an older version and the one used in rjamorim's test (beta 2) was found to sound better than the old one. :)

(yay to me. first post at doom9) :D

bond
15th June 2004, 11:33
Originally posted by QuantumKnot
(yay to me. first post at doom9)omg he found us!! someone plz help us! ;)

welcome to doom9 :)

Kurtnoise
5th November 2005, 13:48
New build from Aoyumi : aoTuv beta 4.5 (http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/index.html).

changelog:
# Reexamination of a low bit rate region, the addition of the code accompanying it, and tuning. Influence has this change below quality3. Probably, in the especially low bit rate, it will be effective.

:)

Kurtnoise
5th November 2005, 23:58
For those who want to try it with BeSweet, you can download libraries here (http://www.unite-video.com/phpbb/download.php?id=1954)...:)