Scenaid chap problem or ReAuthorist sub problem

[thwam]

Hey guys! I've patiently been waiting my 5 days from becoming a new member to post and have been searching like crazy trying to figure out the answer to my problem, so here it is:

I'm trying to back up Tears of the Sun. First I used dvdremake to strip what I wanted, then used DVD Shrink to compress the menus and extras (no compression on the movie). I then use DoItFast4U and BatchCCE to demux/reencode. When I use ScenAid to reauthor, my subs are perfectly synced with the movie, but the chapters are off. So I thought I'd try ReAuthorist, but then my chapters and my subs slowly get out of sync with the movie. What do I need to do to fix this? Thanks!

thwam

BTW I get this error when building with the reauthroist scp Warning The duration of MPEG video file "C:\_VFtpdRoot\Temp\VTS08\VTS__08_P01.P.16~9_1.MPV.M2V" has changed.

[influenza]

Hi and welcome to the forum.

what do you mean by off? Are the chapter points so much different from the original? D3s7 has done some things on chapter precision in the latest build, but that would require starting batchcce from scenaid, which you probably didn't do?

[thwam]

I mean that it takes me to a different part of the movie than the original. It's close, but the frame is different (like in the middle of someone talking).

No I didn't start batchcce from scenaid, I did it thru doitfast4u...I think I'll try it thru scenaid and see if that helps. *fingers crossed*

[D3s7]

Scene/Chapter locations are very dependant on I-frame locations which are set during the re-encoding stage..

If it's "Close" (ie within like 12 frames) then your problem is that. I'd recommend trying to re-encode with the ScenAid scenaid-ccedata.txt file and see if that makes a difference..

Also, sounds like your using Scnearist 3.0 if everything "floats" in RA. Scenaid adjusts for this but RA doesn't so if you'd prefer, try Scenarist 2.7 and RA

[thwam]

Yea, I was using Scenarist 3.0, so I switched to 2.7 and that has messed things up even more for me lol. I reencoded using ScenAid and the chapters came out closer, so I figured I'd just set them manually by watching the movie and then switching to Scenarist to set them. Problem is the icon colors suck. So I reinstalled 3.0 and set all my chapters and came out fine. Now the problem is my sub's colors are off when I use IfoUpdate. I never had this problem before I installed 2.7...? Back to searching the forums hehe.

BTW I'm not to knowledgeable about I-Frames and all that stuff, but why is it so hard to have the correct chapters after the reencode? While the size of the movie changes, the time does not...?

[D3s7]

a "chapter" or Scene in scenarist can only land on an I-Frame (by default there is 1 I-frame for each GOP which defaults to 12 frames)

so for example you had a scene that's suppose to be at frame 20, without forcing the iframe location in scenarist it'll land on frame 24.

as far as ScenAid and Scenarist 1) did you compile the project to find the location or are you looking from the simulation window? From what I've found the simulation window is not always accurate especially when it comes to drop-frame 2) make sure you set the proper scenarist version in Scenaid. The scripts for 2.6 / 2.7 are different then 3.0 (which is why RA has a problem with 3.0)

by icon colors I'm guessing your referring to the sub palette? Key with that is after authoring, when doing the ifoupdate state, don't copy the palette information.. that way it'll use the original palette not the one from Scenarist

[thwam]

Alright, good info to know. I didn't even know about the simulation window, so that isn't an issue. What I meant by the icon colors is the tiny icon that Scenarists creates for each new scene in the track editor. In 2.7 they are like 16 color, while in 3.0 they're 24bit (Just an example). BTW Is there anyway to make these bigger in size? It's hard to see them at my resolution. =)

The problem I'm having with my subs is that even when I do that trick in IfoUpdate, the face is transparent. It will have the outlines though. How can I fix this?

[D3s7]

Ah.. ok I see what you mean about the icons

Those may not be a true representation of where exactly that picture starts.. (they don't always use the first frame)

As far as the sub colors:
There was a bug in the current public release of ScenAid.. I have a new build that resolves that issue and should be releasing it either tonight or tomorrow....

[thwam]

Alright sounds good and thanks for the help! =)

[thwam]

Ok, the new ScenAid solved the transparent subs problem, but my sub's colors are all reversed. Like the face color is now the outline 1 color, outline 2 color is now the face color (just an example), etc. I've opened up the ifo in SupRemap, figured out what value did what and manually remaped the colors. How do I fix this problem?

[D3s7]

hmm.. almost sounds like in this case the conversion colors are wrong in the .sst

the easist way to fix this would be to modify the .sst, set the correct color id and then regenerate the script..

couple other questions would be:
your looking at these POST ifoupdate correct?
if yes, did you copy the palette info in ifoupdate?

[thwam]

Yes, I'm looking at the outcome post ifoupdate. I've tried copying the color and not. My problem arises when I dont' copy the color palette and try to use the original ifo's that the color's swap around. When I copy the the color palette from the authored ifo, it displays using the default palette in scenarist, but I don't want to have to change it with every new project.

[D3s7]

if you can, send me the original and authored (pre ifoupdate) ifos

[thwam]

Sure thing, how do you want me to send them?

[thwam]

D3s7 have you gotten a chance to look over the IFO's I sent you? :D