GK current version - 0.32 beta

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UNINSTALL PRE 0.29 VERSIONS OF GK

Download links:
Full Pack 0.32 beta:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gordianknot/GordianKnot.RipPack.0.32.beta.Setup.exe?

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Change Log:
0.32.0 beta

[FIX] Ogg Boost was in Besweet parameters line even if not selected.
[FIX] Now ppl can select Language Comment for Vorbis stream.
[FIX] Chapters informations is now properly saved to registry for each slot.
[ADD] DVD sizes added (4.7 and 8.5)
[FIX] AdvSaveAVS: Trim RadioButtons grayed when disabled.
[FIX] AdvSaveAVS: Preview button disabled when "trim both".

0.31.0 alpha

[CHG] Max width resolution: 1920 (HDTV).
[FIX] No overhead for OGM if no stream.
[FIX] AdvSaveAVS: Cropping ALWAYS before deinterlacing.
[FIX] Little bugs with Audio Interleave combobox change.
[FIX] "Use Different Last Pass" CheckBox now visible.
[CHG] AdvSaveAVS: "No Comments" check box state saved.
[FIX] CD Number saved to registry.

0.30.0 alpha

[FIX/CHG] "Chapters info" was not saved correctly to .job file. So format has been changed.
You can add 50 chapters to movie, no more.
[FIX] On the first start overhead was ticked despite the fact that XviD was selected.
[FIX] "Index out of Bounds" error when muxing ChaptersInfo.
[CHG] Big changes on Filters window:
- Filters ListBoxes are now TreeViews to show ALL filters inside a Library.
- ParamList is now used (if set to "True" in .xml file)
[CHG] AdvSaveAVS: So, library name is now displayed in front of filter param in filters ListBox.
[FIX] VDMod crash when using extended chars in Movie filename.
[FIX] AdvSaveAVS: IDCT value is set to 0 if none.
[FIX] AdvSaveAVS: Unable to move first item in Filters Listbox.
[CHG] MainForm: Less CDSize values (no more duplicates).

0.29 alpha build 1822
[FIX] Added Kernel Deinterlace to New SaveAVS window.
[FIX] Many bugs in the "Filters" window (especially to add a new filter).
[CHG] New format for filters .xml files (same as AVSEdit)
[CHG] New paths to apps (new dirs): BeSweet, DGMPGDec, vStrip, chapterExtractor, DVDDecrypter
[FIX] Icon recreation when Explorer crashes on win2000/XP
[CHG] Hack to add more key frame interval when splitting .avi.
[FIX] New SaveAVS: Denoising comments in script.
[FIX] New SaveAVS: "-> RESIZE" was not Read Only when opening an ini file.
[ADD] New SaveAVS: Some hints in Memo to help users.
[FIX] Error message when closing application.
[FIX] Remove VDMod error message when srt file was empty.
[FIX] SrtFile was not updated in the registry if deleted in "Options" tab.
[FIX] When deleting Registry settings, dgdecode name was "lost"
[CHG] Since not used anymore "Use alternative MPEGDEC dll" check box was removed
[FIX] SaveAVS: IVTC warning doesn't appear anymore inadvertently.
[FIX] XVid zones settings not erased if settings file exists.
[CHG] New SaveAVS: More infos on IDCT choices.
[CHG] New SaveAVS: Window is now Desktop centered.
[CHG] Number of saved profiles increased to 16
[FIX] Splitting is no longer cuts off last few seconds of video
[FIX] Comp test results for XviD 1.0 without b-frames improved
[FIX] Double click on tray icon is no longer affects other icons
==================================================================

Here we go. As tHe gLouCh was able to migrate my XviD 1.0 changes into main development branch I'll be building 0.29 alphas from now on. Most of the changes for this version were done last summer and autumn, so I don't really remember what they are :) Anyway afair:

- queue system enhanced to allow persistent saving/loading and other manipulations
- support for OGM and MKV containers (although I don't really know what the state of overhead calculation for them is)
- new Save AVS window
- work with DGIndex (from DGMPGDec) now

There are may be more changes that I am unaware of and Therry can probably list them as well. At a very least it should work OK with AVI container (I was using this alpha until December last year myself) and XviD 1.0.

P.S. I'm not working on this version atm, just building it, so don't ask me for bugfixes. When Therry has time he will read this thread and fix them and I will build new version. This is how its gonna work. Also don't try to push new feature requests as we do not have much time for 0.29 anyway now.

Enjoy.

[tHe gLouCh]

List of changes since 0.28.8

** Build 1811 (06/07/2004)

[CHG] Dll name chosen by ppl in Options tab is now used ('dgdecode.dll' for example).
[FIX] Merge from 0.28.8 version (len0x).
[UPDT] DVD2AVIdg/MPEG2DEC3dg now DGIndex/DGDecode.
[ADD] Number of CD (from 1/4 to 3)

** Build 1806 (29/10/2003)

[FIX] Credits script was not saved correctly when choosing Save & Encode option in new SaveAVS window.

** Build 1805 ** 27/10/2003

[ADDED] New SaveAVS window: now , infos are saved in XML files.

** Build 1804 ** 10/01/2003

fixed bug "array index out of bounds" in the job control

fixed paths problems when suddenly applications could not be started
and moreover you couldn't change the path on the path tab.

added undot() filter which is used by default

SetWorkingDir is not working properly on some systems, so it was removed
from avisynth script

added option to save avi from each pass of divx5

job name contains name of the final avi now

** Previous Builds ** 09/03/2003

[FIX] Now Vorbis quality & Audio Language values cannot be added by users.
[FIX] If Encode window is shown & no job is added then no more error message.
[ADDED] Dialog Window to choose Language first time the program is loaded.
[ADDED] Position of Splitter in MainWindow saved in .ini file.
[FIX] Style of Queue window saved & restored properly.
[CHANGE] Options CheckBox.checked moved to .ini file.
[CHANGE] Audio panels updated + eliminated delay in -ota parameter
[CHANGE] Ogg renamed to Vorbis
[ADD] Splitter in Queue Window to resize Jobs List
[FIX] One Job always selected in Queue Window.
[FIX] Up & Down buttons on Queue Job window.
[FIX] Standard dialogs in English
[FIX] Duplicate JobQueue when Hiding MainForm.
[ADD] OGM & MKV support
[ADD] Vorbis audio
[ADD] OTA, Presets, Boost in Transcoding Audio Parameters.
[ADD] Encode: Azid & Lame personal settings saved.
[ADD] Chapters
[ADD] Tray Icon when minimized
[ADD] Load, save, delete, move Jobs in Queue Window

tHe gLouCh

[len0x]

Originally posted by tHe gLouCh
List of changes since 0.28.8


we should actually put this into info.txt and commit to CVS, so it never gets lost :)

[rotflol]

Thanks, guys! :)

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by len0x
we should actually put this into info.txt and commit to CVS, so it never gets lost :)

Done!

[Barsanuphe]

thank you, ive been using gordianknot for a long time now and only just discovering matroska... this release is most welcome!

[plazz2000]

Thanks!

[iradic]

hi...

is it possible to add new filter in New_Save_AVS window and how... i get "list out of bounds" and some other errors...

this is mainly cause kerneldeint isnt available under deinterlace... without possibility of adding new filters its pretty useless...

opening xvid avi file still causes problems - "not valid..."

bye

[jggimi]

...is it possible to add new filter in New_Save_AVS window...

I don't understand. There is an Edit button on the Save & Encode window. Perhaps you could explain more clearly what your trouble is?

this is mainly cause kerneldeint isnt available under deinterlace...

It is on my system, selectable via the Save&Encode window and in the scripts in the "Deinterlacing (2)" section. Are you sure you installed on top of 28.8 as described above?

opening xvid avi file still causes problems - "not valid..."

This I can duplicate. However, a one line .avs file containing an avisource() filter circumvents the problem.

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by iradic
is it possible to add new filter in New_Save_AVS window and how... i get "list out of bounds" and some other errors...
Probably the program is not well set.

First, to use the "new" SaveAVS you must put all your plugins/filters in the AvisynthPlugins directory (Program Files/Gordian Knot/AvisynthPlugins) and check that in the "Program Paths" tab this is the right path.

Once done, to add a new filter in the script is easy: just click on the "+" button and the "Filters" window appears.

For the time being, the "Filters" window is a little "buggy": adding a new XML file description may cause some problems.
BUT, you can use the SaveAVS otherwise.

[jggimi]

Oh, the "Use advanced SaveAVS window" box in the Options tab. :stupid: Yes, iradic, you're right about kerneldeint not being in the list on the Prepare (Options) tab.

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by iradic
this is mainly cause kerneldeint isnt available under deinterlace... without possibility of adding new filters its pretty useless... Yes. On the New SaveAVS I have forgot this one. Will repair that immediatly!
You can add it manually (in the "Script" tab).

[thoralf]

Originally posted by len0x
- support for OGM and MKV containers (although I don't really know what the state of overhead calculation for them is)


yay! Thank you very much for this. I'll run a test later this evening ...

with kind regards,
Thoralf.

[iradic]

thanks all

but i didnt get it... until now... you should really add some basic instructions for managing filters with new_save_avs window...

i didnt realise that xml files and filters needs to be in the same dir...

gknot is back...

EDITED HEAVILLY

[len0x]

Originally posted by iradic
i needed to move xml files to gknot dir and then everything worked fine... no errors and such...


well no one said its gonna be easy :)
I didn't pack actual filters only xml files into separate dir, so its probably my bad, but in my defence I haven't used new SaveAVS window yet :D

We're planning to release a full alpha pack which will consists of new more structured directories, coz its a mess now...

[jggimi]

Well, I had a few problems ... particulary when playing with DGIndex and with the new SaveAVS structure, so I perfomed a registry cleaning uninstall then reinstalled 28.8 and 29a.8211. Those problems all went away.

All I've noticed since is that all of the AviSynth plugins are in the main folder rather than the AviSynth plugin directory. But then, I believe I had the same simple issue when I last did a clean install a long while ago.

[tHe gLouCh]

The best for NewSaveAVS is to put ALL .dll (dgdecode, decomb, undot, etc...) and .xml files to AvisynthPlugins dir (next installer will do that eventually) and to tell program in "Programs Paths" where to look.

[jggimi]

The .xmls were all in the AvisythPlugin directory when I did my clean install, just the .dlls needed to be copied/moved.

[iradic]

created xml for KernelDeint...
copy, paste, save as .xml

EDIT: removed

[stax76]

@iradic

KernelDeint is already in the AviSynth repository, you can fetch them with a anonymous cvs checkout

http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=57023

the files should be created and edited with AVSEdit to ensure they have a proper format, Wilbert is maintaining the files so possible contributions could be sent to him

@tHe gLouCh

you mean you want to copy all filter definitions to the AviSynth plugin dir? I'm sure there will be people bothered by this. DVX still does this but the situation has changed a lot so it will be changed

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by Dolemite
KernelDeint is already in the AviSynth repository...
the files should be created and edited with AVSEdit to ensure they have a proper format...It seems that the xml format has changed since DVX, and that files on Avisynth CVS are not compatibles with "mines". Is this an "official" format now ?
you mean you want to copy all filter definitions to the AviSynth plugin dir? I'm sure there will be people bothered by this. DVX still does this but the situation has changed a lot so it will be changed [/B]I am not sure I understand what you mean ? xml files are installed in AvisynthPlugins directory, and users can add any filter (.dll) they want in the same directory. Why is this bothering ?

[stax76]

It seems that the xml format has changed since DVX, and that files on Avisynth CVS are not compatibles with "mines".


the format was expanded, recent AVSEdit and DVX versions use the same format, I try to keep both code bases in sync where it makes sense


Is this an "official" format now ?


it's the official format for AVSEdit, the official AviSynth script editor which is part of the AviSynth project


I am not sure I understand what you mean ? xml files are installed in AvisynthPlugins directory, and users can add any filter (.dll) they want in the same directory. Why is this bothering ?


in AVSEdit both the help for the filters and the filter definitions are in the same directory or subdirectories as AVSEdit since there is no real benefit in copying it to the plugin directory which would irritate advanced users that would like to manage their global plugin dir by hand. I think I've misunderstood AvisynthPlugins as global plugin dir (the thing with the reg key), if its within the GK dir then everything is OK

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by Dolemite
it's the official format for AVSEdit, the official AviSynth script editor which is part of the AviSynth project I have done the necessary changes. Next GK build will include this "new" format to maintain compatibility.:)

[niamh]

Well, THANK YOU, can't tell you how eagerly awaited this was :)

since you said the advanced avs window was buggy, please disregard this if you know it happens already:
i open a d2v project, hit save, select ''no noise''(i'm used to editing that myself manually), anyway this is what i get in the script:
............
# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 3) heavy noise

# RESIZING
BicubicResize(704,272,0,0.75)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 3) heavy noise
............

if i pick ''little noise''in the prepare options box this is what i get in the script:

............
# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 3) heavy noise

# RESIZING
BicubicResize(704,272,0,0.75)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 3) heavy noise
Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
mergechroma(blur(1.3))
FluxSmooth(5,7)
..........
the values are correct, (same for medium and heavy noise) but i still get a ''heavy noise'' header (or 2:))
i tried another d2v, and this time i got ''medium noise'' instead

.................
# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 2) medium noise

# RESIZING
BicubicResize(704,288,0,0.5)

# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 2) medium noise
.....................
plus the 3 filters in the group are active by default (no # in front of either of them)(probably a new default, i'm just pointing out in case :))

The preview button , and the add/configure filters is just great , thank you very much!!!

I'm very possibly blind, but i don't see an ivtc option in the deinterlace box,and the + button is greyed out.The comment does say to enable it here, though (it's of course in the script all right)

just another thing, i can't seem to be able to click on ''trim:movie only''. Not that i ever use it, but GK doesn't respond there

And call me old, i'm delighted to be able to have my encoder window back in black :D

thanks again for all the great work :)

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by niamh
...since you said the advanced avs window was buggyNot so much I hope :), its mainly the "Filters" window. But in the next build things will get better.
...# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 3) heavy noise
...the values are correct, (same for medium and heavy noise) but i still get a ''heavy noise'' header (or 2:))
i tried another d2v, and this time i got ''medium noise'' insteadLittle bug. Will look...
I'm very possibly blind, but i don't see an ivtc option in the deinterlace box,and the + button is greyed out... I am french. I work mainly in PAL. I will try tonight with a NTSC source.
...i can't seem to be able to click on ''trim:movie only''. Just set "Credits Start" to work: no credits, no Movie Only.

[len0x]

Originally posted by tHe gLouCh
Just set "Credits Start" to work: no credits, no Movie Only.

assuming XviD is not used...

[niamh]

Just set "Credits Start" to work: no credits, no Movie Only.
hehehe, that explains it ;)

I am french. I work mainly in PAL.

me too :) i just happened to see it was missing because i'm having fun with a telecined ntsc vob this week .And because i like to click on things to see what happens :)

[tHe gLouCh]

i don't see an ivtc option in the deinterlace box,and the + button is greyed outI have run a test, and with NTSC source it's working perfectly here: InverseTelecine is visible.

[niamh]

let me check again, because i know that two of us couldn't see it....

<re-checking>....yep , it's there now, i'm sorry :)

[JohnV]

OGM and MKV support is nice, but how about adding some industry standard container creation like MP4? :)

[jggimi]

Heh. Apparently, that may happen. From the way I read this thread, that day is "Someday." The VdubMod team merely need to resolve licensing issues, and then obtain development resources.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=403948

[stax76]

the 3ivx DShow muxer could be used or maybe another muxer, my implementation took only 30 minutes (available already in the forum btw.). Actually it took sligtly longer than 30 because I made a wrapper around DShow because I can't stand COM+ semantics but learning about DShow is probably not a bad idea because I see a big trend towards DShow

[len0x]

Originally posted by jggimi
The VdubMod team merely need to resolve licensing issues, and then obtain development resources.


VDubMod team doesn't look to be active at all. Last posts on this board by Belgabor and Cyrius were made back in March...

[Caoineadh]

thanks for your precious work

[thoralf]

Just ran a quick test ... When GKnot was supposed to mux the finished video into a matroska container, AviSynth popped up a Sylia Script Error ("expected ')'"). The avs looked like this:

// $job "DivX5 Append"
// $input "C:\DVD\Projects\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1_Movie.mkv"
// $output "C:\DVD\Projects\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1.mkv"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\DVD\\Projects\\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1\\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1_Movie.mkv",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("C:\\DVD\\Projects\\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1\\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1 Track 1 Deutsch DELAY 0ms.ogg",0x00000204);
VirtualDub.stream[0].AddComment(0x00010000,"","English");
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetSource("gs FR X \xE2\x80\x9D\xC2\xA8\xC3\xA9",0x00000301);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.stream[1].EnableFilterGraph(0);
VirtualDub.stream[1].filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.SaveMKV("C:\\DVD\\Projects\\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1\\STALKER_VTS_02_PGC1.mkv");
VirtualDub.Close();


The VirtualDub.stream[1].SetSource line looks a bit odd to me ...

Also, I occasionally get error messages about something being unresolved when quitting GKnot - I cannot reproduce this right now, but I'll post more details if it happens the next time.

BTW, i really like the advanced save-avs window. Great work!

With kind regards,
Thoralf.

[LordIntruder]

Hi,


Have tried the latest build up-to-date and what I wonder is about the compressibility test. When I make a compressibility test using Divx 5.1.1, I got something clear and usable but not with Xvid 1.0.

With the exact same movie I got this:

- Divx 56%
- Xvid 148% !!!

In fact the Xvid compressibility test is always high, whatever the movie, so high that I can't use the results to determine the best resolution. So I use Divx 5.1.1 compressibility test to determine it but it is slow, even for a short test. ;)

But maybe this is still in alpha stage for Xvid? In this case forget what I say.

Anyway thanks for your work on Gknot :)

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by thoralf
VirtualDub.stream[1].SetSource("gs (....) FR X \xE2\x80\x9D\xC2\xA8\xC3\xA9",0x00000301);

The VirtualDub.stream[1].SetSource line looks a bit odd to me ...Yes. Stream1 is second audio ? Could you tell me the real file name ? We had some issues with "foreign" chars: é,à, etc... some time ago.
Also, I occasionally get error messages about something being unresolved when quitting GKnot - I cannot reproduce this right now, but I'll post more details if it happens the next time.Could you verify if this problem occurs ONLY when you're using Advanced SaveAVS ?

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by LordIntruder
When I make a compressibility test using Divx 5.1.1, I got something clear and usable but not with Xvid 1.0.
... But maybe this is still in alpha stage for Xvid? I don't understand what's happening. Code for XVid 1.0 was taken from lenOx changes from 0.28.8. So it is not in alpha stage. Did you check codec settings before running the comp. test ?

[Barsanuphe]

i also experienced the "expected'('" error while muxing 2 audio tracks in an mkv, without any foreign characters.
i also get the exit error message once in a while.
my last xvid encode was also 399mb while gordianknot expected more than 800mb, im gonna have to try and find out why.

[JohnV]

Originally posted by jggimi
Heh. Apparently, that may happen. From the way I read this thread, that day is "Someday." The VdubMod team merely need to resolve licensing issues, and then obtain development resources.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=403948 Well, according to that thread it seemed there still was a missunderstanding for the vdubmod dev that MP4 container is not license free. It is license free, there's no license issues with MP4..

[Barsanuphe]

the exit error message goes something like "read access error at address 0000000". i cant really figure out whats triggering it.

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by Barsanuphe
i also experienced the "expected'('" error while muxing 2 audio tracks in an mkv, without any foreign characters. Just tell me the files names please. I have done a test with 2 audios (ogg+mp3) in mkv and all is fine for me.

[Brother John]

It's a fine day today. Great weather, no more lessons for the rest of the week and a new version of my favorite encoding tool. What else could I want! :)
Originally posted by len0x
- support for OGM and MKV containers (although I don't really know what the state of overhead calculation for them is)
I've been using an earlier build of 0.29 for some time now. Size prediction for matroska is near perfect. Numbers are similar for all kinds of audio setups and number of CDs. Also deviation stays the same for different encodings.
Codec deviation from calculated file size
DivX 5 < 1 MB
XviD 1.0
("calc overhead" off) ~ 2 MB less than calculated
XviD 1.0
("calc overhead" on) ~ 4 MB less than calculated
I didn't do tests but XviD deviation seems not to be GKnot's fault but XviD's tendency to produce slightly undersized files.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Brother John
I've been using an earlier build of 0.29 for some time now. Size prediction for matroska is near perfect. Numbers are similar for all kinds of audio setups and number of CDs. Also deviation stays the same for different encodings.


good to know !

Originally posted by Brother John
I didn't do tests but XviD deviation seems not to be GKnot's fault but XviD's tendency to produce slightly undersized files.

Never happened to me in AVI container...

[len0x]

Does anyone here have the same size statistics for OGM container?
I've just got a new estimation formula from one guy and now wonder if I should try it or current one is ok ?

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by Barsanuphe
the exit error message goes something like "read access error at address 0000000". i cant really figure out whats triggering it. OK. It happens when you open and close a video at least 2 times using AdvancedSaveAVS. This bug is fixed now!! :)

[Barsanuphe]

theglouch -> it was les reines du pouvoir.mkv, nothing fancy.

edit: lenox, sorry about rule #13 -- but i couldnt remember fancy -thanks niamh - and for some reason i happen to like the word folichon.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Barsanuphe
theglouch -> c'etait les reines du pouvoir.mkv, rien de folichon.

Can you please speak english - its an english forum (Rule 13).

[niamh]

theglouch -> c'etait les reines du pouvoir.mkv, rien de folichon.

>>>>>> it was "les reines du pouvoir.mkv", nothing fancy.

Is there any plan at all to include AAC audio? :) (just inquiring :) )

[tHe gLouCh]

Originally posted by Barsanuphe
theglouch -> it was les reines du pouvoir.mkv,Good, but I mean audio1 and audio2 filenames (ex: NTSC AC3 T01 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY -16ms2.mp3)...