XviD 1.0 FINAL - compatible with todays HARDWARE players ?

[tincek01]

Hello !

If i encode a movie with Xvid 1.0 FINAL ( without Qpel ) will my divx player play it correctly ? ==>> packet bitstream problem

Thank You

tincek

[communist]

Just do a small test clip burn it on CDRW and you'll know.

[tincek01]

I know... I meant the ALREADY made Xivid movies. I checked some encoded with RC3 and playback wasnt smooth. Haven't tried any new ones yet.

I need this beacuse i want to remove packed bitstream feature from Xvid before i burn it to CD/DVD if neccesary.

tincek

[bond]

:search:
it all depends on what player you have

[tincek01]

I have a Denver 438 ( Mediatek based player ). I know the playback is jerky on Along Came Polly ( BRUTUS Release ), which is encoded in 1.0 FINAL. I don't know if with QPEL and GMC. Will check today...

tincek

[Leak]

Originally posted by tincek01
( BRUTUS Release )

Ahem... here's some recommended reading (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm):

6) No warez, cracks, serials or illegally obtained copyrighted content! Links to content of a questionable nature, asking for, offering, or asking for help/helping to process such content in any way or form is not tolerated.

HTH. HAND.

np: Freeform - Plays Takeshi's Mud Dauber (House Of Distraction comp.)

[tincek01]

Sorry.... Won't happen again. OK , let's try again. It's that movie with Jeniffer Aniston and that other guy , who gets married to this girl, who has sex with this guy on their honeymoon... This movie

:)

[kilg0r3]

BTW does anybody know if the new KISS players will support 'extreme' custom matrices, e.g. didee's semi-insane?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by kilg0r3
BTW does anybody know if the new KISS players will support 'extreme' custom matrices, e.g. didee's semi-insane? I would like to think so.

So far I've been able to play every matrices I've slung at my Sigma Xcard and that chip's around two years old!

That said, if somebody here wants to make an clip availabe (without GMC and Qpel) for download I'll check it out....


Cheers

[kilg0r3]

If that's so and if it will support high enough max bitrates, I think i will have to look into the details of producing mp4 contained streams.

[crusty]

AFAIK, the matrix seems to be somehow 'embedded' in the file. I see no problem with using custom matrices with standalones if they can play XviD files with the normal H.263 and MPEG matrices.

The only way you might see problems if the standalone manufacturer did a cheap hack to hardcode the standard XviD matrices. But I don't think many will be THAT stupid.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by kilg0r3
If that's so and if it will support high enough max bitrates, I think i will have to look into the details of producing mp4 contained streams. I've done a few tests with XviD at the codecs maximum bitrate (ie: 10,000kbps). And when muxed into an MP4 container they work fine with the Xcard... Is that an high enough bitrate for you?


Cheers

[kilg0r3]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Is that an high enough bitrate for you? I might be lucky :D

[mbr76]

Yes it will play smoothly.

I have a Philips 737 Divx/Xvid player (based on the ESS Vibratto chipset) and it plays movies encoded with Xvid 1.0 Final without problems.

I encode with the default settings without Quarter Pixel and GMC (Two pass / Profile@Level: AS@L5 / Quantization type: MPEG).

[Arcon]

Originally posted by crusty
AFAIK, the matrix seems to be somehow 'embedded' in the file.
might be a stupid question, but does the decoder really need the quantizer matrix? i thought it is only used for the creation of the frames while playback is generic for all matrices and therefore possible without the knowledge of the matrix used for encoding?

[Alxemi]

tincek01:
If your player is mediatek based, you can encode with qpel but not with GMC, and if you use more than 1 consecutive bframe (the default is 2) you must turn Packed Bitstream OFF
You could have problems with custom matrices. As you can read in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72298) you should upgrade your firmware to have nearly-full Custom Matrices compatibility.

Also you can read more about XviD & Mediatek here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71554)