Gknot 0.28.8 - every single conversion is out of sync

[daldrum]

Since I installed the latest Gknot version, every created avi (with latest xvid) is out of sync. I also tried to uninstall the previous version of Gknot (deleted registry settings) and all associated apps, but the problem did not dissappear. I have never had this problem, until I installed th 0.28.8 version. I know it can be easily repaired by manually muxing the transcoded mp3 track into xxx_movie.avi using nandub, but still does anybody have an idea?

I create xvids as usual, I rip a movie with DVDdecrypter (stream processing), then prepare the vobs with DVD2AVI, load it in Gknot, set crop, adjust bitrate, set Xvid 1 and 2 pass (no qpel, no gmc, no packed bitstream, just bidirectional, motion search precision 6, vhq 4 and chroma motion) and hit go.

[manono]

Hi-

Make sure you're using DVD Decrypter in IFO Mode, and not in File Mode. Don't use Stream Processing in DVD Decrypter. Get the Audio when creating a project file in DVD2AVI.

[daldrum]

Thanks for the reply. I have always used IFO mode for Gknot encoding, also I have always used stream processing (never run into any trouble).

OK, I will try to encode without stream and see what happens.

[manono]

Hi-

Since GKnot is using DVD2AVIdg now, by getting the audio in DVD Decrypter, you're liable to get an audio asynch, although not much of one. Q17 of the DVD2AVI FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59272) explains more about the issue. DVD Decrypter does the same thing as the DVD2AVI versions v1.76/1.77.3. So, if you use DVD2AVIdg to create your project file (as I'm assuming), it's important that you also get the audio from it at the same time. But if your delay is larger than 100 ms or so, something else is going on. Are you also making sure to set the delay in GKnot before starting the encoding?

If everything else checks out, there's always the chance that it's a playback issue. So make sure you're not playing from the CD-ROM, but from the hard drive. And maybe test one of these out-of-synch avis on a different computer, if possible.

[daldrum]

Thanks again, I will give it a try according to the suggestions, will let you know tomorrow.

[PapaBobDole]

I am having the same issue, however with Divx 5.1.1 encodes instead of Xvid. Sometimes the the video will skip at the beggining of the file, and the audio is pretty far async. I am running WinXP sp2b on the encoding machine, however it provided no problems for .27.

[daldrum]

Ok, I did not have much time last night to try various suggested remedies, but I ripped Memento DVD without Stream processing and the resulted avi was perfectly in sync. Happy now. Thanks, guys

[wr975]

I am having the same issue, however with Divx 5.1.1 encodes instead of Xvid. Sometimes the the video will skip at the beggining of the file, and the audio is pretty far async. Exactly the same problem since installing the newest GKnot (v0.28.8). I made two movies and both were out of sync + slightly jerky playback. I'm setting up the rip using Robot4Rip. Audio files are VBR MP3.

My guess: v0.28.8 is doing something wrong muxing the audio. If I save the video file Gknot generates without audio and mux it manually using VdubMod (Adjust headers: no) everything's just fine.

[len0x]

nothing was changed in GK since 0.28.7.2 apart from XviD 1.0 support (which is only codec settings related), so please use fixed version of BeSweet and you should not have any problems (or al least none of the programs in GK pack should be direct responsible for out of synch).

[wr975]

All I did was installing v0.28.8 (upgrading from 0.28.7). I'm using applications GK installs only.

I don't think there's anything wrong with ripping/encoding. The audio files (vbr MP3) Robot4Rip created and the video file (DivX 5.1.1) GKnot created are fine... if I manually mux them.

Anyway, I don't need Gknot to encode in Xvid so I'll just go back to 0.28.7. Thank you for the response and your time. :-)

[PapaBobDole]

Is an updated version of nandub or vdub causing the asynch problem perhaps? I'm going to revert to .27 as well if I cannot get this issue resolved. I did make sure that stream processing was disabled in robot4rip as well.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found in another thread that this issue appears to be the fault of the version of Besweet coupled with the .28.8 package. I will try the updated version and report back.

EDIT #2: Confirmed, the latest build of Besweet takes care of this problem.

[lolek74]

Yep same here. Every single movie out of syn but when I join sound with video manually everything is ok.

[KyleK]

Originally posted by PapaBobDole
Is an updated version of nandub or vdub causing the asynch problem perhaps? I'm going to revert to .27 as well if I cannot get this issue resolved. I did make sure that stream processing was disabled in robot4rip as well.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found in another thread that this issue appears to be the fault of the version of Besweet coupled with the .28.8 package. I will try the updated version and report back.

EDIT #2: Confirmed, the latest build of Besweet takes care of this problem.

So, which build of BeSweet should be used? I checked the program's website, the latest beta build is 1.5b26, the same that's bundled with GKnot .28. Latest stable seems to be v1.4.

[len0x]

Originally posted by KyleK
So, which build of BeSweet should be used? I checked the program's website, the latest beta build is 1.5b26, the same that's bundled with GKnot .28

Well DSPGuru has a habit of doing silent updates of BeSweet package, so there were two b26 versions. Latest one is on the website and now in 0.28.8 package (which was silently updated as well). So if you got 0.28.8 package when it was released (first 5 days say), you have to re-download it again or just get b26 of BeSweet.

[KyleK]

Well, that was quick. Thanks a lot, len0x ;)

[redpaul]

len0x, same problem here. Last version of BeSweet checked verified. BTW how can BeSweet be involved if remuxing with Nundub instead of VDubMod solves the problem?
I made (more then once again) the last script in GK'job (append credits and muxing audio) in VDubMod and the result is always out of sync. Same job done manually with nundub lead to a perfect result.
I do really not know why. Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance.

[redpaul]

Update

I looked at the job script automatically provided by GK.
At the last job there is the following line:

VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("C:\\LaDolceVita Track 1 Italiano DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,0)

Look at the last 0 before the parentesis: the Nundub compatibility of VDubMod is not set.

The line should look in this way in order to work properly:

VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("C:\\LaDolceVita Track 1 Italiano DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1)

Now, how can I have GK setting the Nundub compatibility of VDubMod?

Thks in advance.

[len0x]

Originally posted by redpaul
Now, how can I have GK setting the Nundub compatibility of VDubMod?


are you using VBR MP3?
And was it encoded inside the job or just muxed with GK ?

[redpaul]

Yes, len0x, VBR MP3 128. I tried with a version encoded inside Robot4rip and also inside the job. The files were identical.

Maybe I've already said that remuxing the AVI with the same MP3 solve the problem, either with nundub or vdubmod (using the script with the flag for nundub mode - see previous posts)

Hope this could help.

Thanks a lot for your prompt reply, len0x

[len0x]

Originally posted by redpaul
Yes, len0x, VBR MP3 128. I tried with a version encoded inside Robot4rip and also inside the job. The files were identical.


I had a look and it turned out that I have a code to detect whether MP3 is CRB or VBR - it parses the header for that. May be new BeSweet doesn't produce valid VBR header (and it gets detected as CBR). I suggest you experimeting with ealier versions of BeSweet as it has nothing to do with GK.

[len0x]

OK, wrong b26 of besweet produces NO VBR header! (check the file in winamp for instance)
right b26 does have it!
So please update BeSweet - problems should be fixed.

[redpaul]

Len0x, I read some days ago your post concerning two versions of BeSweet v1.5b26 so I downloaded yesterday the very last version from its web site before asking for help.

I take the liberty to remind that I have no problem muxing the file manually. Maybe something wrong with VDubMod or in the registry.

I'll check and let you know.

[redpaul]

Oppps I read your post after mine last one. Sorry. I'm going to download besweet (http://dspguru.notrace.dk/BeSweetv1.5b26.zip) right now!

[len0x]

for the record - correct timestamp for besweet.exe is:
15/04/04 16:26

make sure GK/R4R are using indeed the right version

p.s. this problem was admitted to be fixed by everyone, except you - so it must be the setup problem.

[redpaul]

Thanks a lot len0x you are for sure. I'll rip a DVD tonight (here in Italy is 4.15 pm) and I'll post a message if something is still wrong.

Thank you once again.

[redpaul]

len0x, everything worked fine after having installed the correct version BeSweet.
Thank your very much for you help!

[MrNoogies]

Exact same issue here. Doing a 2CD rip with AC3, and I got out of sync files with DivX and Xvid. The XviD encode not only was out of sync, but produced a 3rd part (!) which was like 40 megs. :confused:
Since I had done great encodes with 28.7, I was getting a little leery of 28.8 and suspected it was perhaps another VdubMod bug... I'll try downloading BeSweet b26, and I'll let you know.

Edit: By the way, a VERY interesting thing I should note is that when I play the unsplit avi of the movie (i.e. the 1400mb XXXX_movie file) THE SOUND IS IN SYNC. Maybe there's a bug in the splitting...? The plot thickens...

[jggimi]

The ..._movie files from Gknot will contain video only, unless your original source was not a .d2v file.