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cleo510
6th April 2004, 22:18
Very fine job!

I have tested this tool successfuly with 2 targets.
The third is more hard to convert.
(Runtime error ‘9’ subscript out of range)
It's a PAL R2 one .
It works fine with big 3 method.

Here is my configuration:
CCE 2.67.00.23
DVD RB any version from 0.18 to 0.31
Correct installation of avisynth etc..

The film configuration:

(BitrateViewer info)

Num. of picture read: 13400
Stream type: MPEG-2 MP@ML CBR
Resolution: 720*576
Aspect ratio: 16:9 Generic
Framerate: 25.00
Nom. bitrate: 6500000 Bit/Sec
VBV buffer size: 112
Constrained param. flag: No
Chroma format: 4:2:0
DCT precision: 10
Pic. structure: Field
Field topfirst: No
DCT type: Field
Quantscale: Nonlinear
Scan type: Alternate
Frame type: Interlaced
Scene change detection: FOUND
Variable GOP pattern: NOT FOUND

Gop:26 !! very special!!

So to do the job, i have a look in the forum.
On page 37 in the section bug report, there is a exelent article from Msc_Alex dated from April 3 18h24.
Effectively, only this film has for I picture:
[0036] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 249 28 0 0 [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ]
So I modified the value F9 to F7 with Vobedit and DVDRB works for all the movie without runtime error 9!
BUT the first converted gop is altered of course.

So this is my contribution to perform this great tool!
Have you an idea?

Cleo510

Msc_Alex
7th April 2004, 13:40
Thanks cleo510

You probably should have post this in the Bug Reports -v0.30+ :p

Fun to see that this movie is also tagged as Interlaced an bottom field first,
I stared to play with this after this tread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=468312&highlight=silent#post468312) .

Can't be a "still" problem because I demuxed the movie en trimmed the fist
20 minutes and last hour of the movie in Maestro -> a dvd of +/- 15 minutes.
no audio no chapters no subs, just the m2v trimmed to 15 minutes in the middle
of the movie.

Started up DVD-RB (now 0.31 ) -> Runtime 9 error right at the start.

Also this part of the GOP's in this movie troubles me, haven't seen it before in other movies :

[0016] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[001a] Sequence_Display_Extension 35 5 5 5 8 114 [23 05 05 05 08 72 ]
Extension ID-bits: 2
video format: 1
video format: PAL
color description flag: 1
[001b] color primaries 5 [05]
[001c] transfer characteristics 5 [05]
[001d] matrix coefficients 5 [05]
display horizontal size: 540
display vertical size: 576

Well then again it's the fist time I ever look in a GOP this far.

Maybe someone can put the pieces of the puzzle together ?

Could other people post there Picture Coding Extension who have the "runtime 9 error during
the prepare phase ? "when it hasn't anything to do with still pictures ?
thx
:)

cleo510
7th April 2004, 23:05
Originally posted by Msc_Alex
Thanks cleo510

You probably should have post this in the Bug Reports -v0.30+ :p

Fun to see that this movie is also tagged as Interlaced an bottom field first,
I stared to play with this after this tread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=468312&highlight=silent#post468312) .

Can't be a "still" problem because I demuxed the movie en trimmed the fist
20 minutes and last hour of the movie in Maestro -> a dvd of +/- 15 minutes.
no audio no chapters no subs, just the m2v trimmed to 15 minutes in the middle
of the movie.

Started up DVD-RB (now 0.31 ) -> Runtime 9 error right at the start.

Also this part of the GOP's in this movie troubles me, haven't seen it before in other movies :

[0016] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[001a] Sequence_Display_Extension 35 5 5 5 8 114 [23 05 05 05 08 72 ]
Extension ID-bits: 2
video format: 1
video format: PAL
color description flag: 1
[001b] color primaries 5 [05]
[001c] transfer characteristics 5 [05]
[001d] matrix coefficients 5 [05]
display horizontal size: 540
display vertical size: 576

Well then again it's the fist time I ever look in a GOP this far.

Maybe someone can put the pieces of the puzzle together ?

Could other people post there Picture Coding Extension who have the "runtime 9 error during
the prepare phase ? "when it hasn't anything to do with still pictures ?
thx

:)

Hello Msc_Alex

Here is The configuration of my movie:


[0016] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[001a] Sequence_Display_Extension 35 5 5 5 8 114 [23 05 05 05 08 72 ]
Extension ID-bits: 2
video format: 1
video format: PAL
color description flag: 1
[001b] color primaries 5 [05]
[001c] transfer characteristics 5 [05]
[001d] matrix coefficients 5 [05]
display horizontal size: 540
display vertical size: 576

[0022] GOP start code 440 [000001b8]
[0026] GOP bit flags / time stamp 666856320 [27bf6b80]
TimeStamp: 09:59:59.23

Drop-Frame flag: 0
Hour: 9
Minute: 59
Marker bit=1: 1
Seconds: 59
Frames: 23
closed GOP: 0
broken GOP: 0

[002a] Picture start code 256 [00000100]
[002e] Picture header 727504 [000b19d0]
temperal sequence number: 0
frame type: 1
-> I frame
VBV delay: 25402

[0032] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[0036] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 249 28 0 0 [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ]
Extension ID-bits: 8
f_code[0][0] (forward horizontal): 143
f_code[0][1] (forward vertical): 15
f_code[1][0] (backward horizontal): 255
f_code[1][1] (backward vertical): 15
intra_DC_precision: 2
picture_structure: 1
picture_structure: Top Field
Top_Field_First: 0
TOP_FIELD_FIRST: 0
frame_pred_frame_dct: 0
concealment_motion_vectors: 0
q_scale_type: 1
intra_vlc_format: 1
alternate_scan: 1
Repeat_First_Field: 0
REPEAT_FIRST_FIELD: 0
chroma_420_type: 0
progressive_frame: 0
composite_display flag: 0

After modifying F9 to F7 in [0036] it works for all the movie but the first converted gop is buggy.

Cleo510

Msc_Alex
8th April 2004, 15:08
Originally posted by Msc_Alex

Also this part of the GOP's in this movie troubles me, haven't seen it before in other movies :

[0016] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[001a] Sequence_Display_Extension 35 5 5 5 8 114 [23 05 05 05 08 72 ]
Extension ID-bits: 2
video format: 1
video format: PAL
color description flag: 1
[001b] color primaries 5 [05]
[001c] transfer characteristics 5 [05]
[001d] matrix coefficients 5 [05]
display horizontal size: 540
display vertical size: 576

Well then again it's the fist time I ever look in a GOP this far.

M) [/B]

Ok use the big search button :o
So it appears that this is also a Pan&Scan movie.
Well found a other short Interlaced Bottom field first intro and made a dvd.
And DVD-RB Hit the runtime 9 error again.

But you must have a true Interlaced Bottom field first m2v, tried making one
from a Top field first using restream en vobedit, but DVD-RB work fine on them ?
:confused:

cleo510
14th April 2004, 22:21
Yes Mc_Alex, I have demux the target with dvddecrypter and analysed it with Restream 0.9.
It's probably A BFF movie, no flag for TFF and no flag for BFF!
But interlaced PAL movie.
Why using a other tool to force it to TFF?
The target is one click software, no?
So I tested unsuccesful all vesion to 0.37 included.
I'm gona to test 0.38, in the history file, somthing is improved for BFF movies

cleo510
14th April 2004, 22:47
0.38 is buggy to

Here is restream conf:
c:\cleo.bmp

wmansir
14th April 2004, 22:59
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Msc_Alex
14th April 2004, 23:02
i know i did the test version it was just for encoding settings in cce, jdobbs has my mini dvd now.
I hope it will give him the runtime 9 error

cleo510
15th April 2004, 22:41
Thanks Msc_Alex.

Here (perhaps) for other beta testers the Restream conf:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7493/Cleo.jpg

jdobbs
16th April 2004, 00:20
Originally posted by Msc_Alex
i know i did the test version it was just for encoding settings in cce, jdobbs has my mini dvd now.
I hope it will give him the runtime 9 error It's fixed in v0.39 -- thanks for the help!

cleo510
17th April 2004, 23:03
I tested my target with V0.40 beta.
It works!

Thank you Jdobbs and Msc_Alex for your help.

I'm going now testing other targets in Pal because I'm in R2 Country.

Often stranges interlaced movies.

Cleo510

Joergen
17th April 2004, 23:26
Great to see DVD-RB squashing another bug.

Though R2 is lucky compared to R1 I'd think, since a 24fps movie can be converted to 25fps pal compliance merely by adding one frame per second (plus resolution is higher) and most R2 DVDs are "progressive" either fully or progressive frames encoded as interlaced. So I'd imagine the most problems with encoding are with R1.