DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+ [Archive]

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 16:31

DVD-RB Beta Testers,

The posts on this subject have gotten so big there have been so many changes that I thought it would be a good idea to kick off a new thread that only addresses bugs that have/will happen since version 0.30 -- mainly because a combination of 0.29 and 0.30 have made significant changes to the product. I will lock the previous Bug Report thread in the near future. Again I ask that you try to report in the following format:

1. DVD-R Version: x.xx
2. Encoder being used: CCE X.XX, ReJig X.XX, or QuEnc X.XX
3. Using eclCCE? Y or N
4. Bug encountered: Description of the bug, with any detail that might make it clearer and easier to fix.
5. If you think it might help, use the "Copy Status to Clipboard" feature of v0.19 and above -- and post it with the bug report.

I will also attempt to keep the link below up-to-date so you can always come to the first page of this thread to get the latest version of the beta.

The latest version can be found here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75452)

Note: Some browsers may need to "Refresh" to get the most current version.

You can find brief installation and usage instructions on this post/page. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051&postid=465822)

Again my thanks to all the beta testers. Your constructive inputs are really helpful in making this a useful product.

jdobbs

Smoking_Weed

4th April 2004, 16:55

DVD-RB version: 0.30
encoder used: cce 2.50 (trial)
using eclcce: no
---------------------------
DVD-RB ERROR
---------------------------
There is nothing to do!
DVD-RB couldn't locate appropriate files in working directory! You must PREPARE and ENCODE first.
Aborting.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------

i get that everytime after it copy the files to hdd before it start t o encode. i have that problem since version 0.25.
my settings are cce 2.50, and i set the
MPEG2Dec3dg.dll like it says in the helpfile.
i tried 1 click mode and also with the 3 steps same result.
i hope i that info is enough.

maybe my specs: amd athlon xp 2400+, 1024 ddr ram, gforce 4 ti 4200@4600 windows xp sp1

thanks in advanced

edit: i just tried to use eclcce finaly encoding started :)

Discoboy

4th April 2004, 18:34

DVD-R Version: 0.30
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
Using eclCCE? Y Ver. 1.8b

Stuttering probs update with the latest 030 beta when processing Matrix Revolutions PAL. History:-

028 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters

029 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- stuttering every 2 seconds on video

029b beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- Stuttering every 2 seconds on video
- Audio out of shink now at the 2 second stutter issue

030 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters same as in 028 beta

2COOL

4th April 2004, 18:48

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.29b/0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bugs encountered:

I had three audios bugs with 0.29b and looking at the 0.30's history, I don't think it's fixed with it too. :( Actually, I had a fourth bug, oversizing when stripping audio, but didn't experience it in this DVD project. That has been reported earlier. Anyways, here's what I had with Bring It On (R1).

1. Not all audios are detected. I had 2 out of 4 showing in pane. Total of four is confirmed in IfoEdit. Français option is not available for unchecking.

DVD-RB
Audio stream to keep:
Audio_1 6 Chan,DTS,Lang: English
Audio_2 6 Chan,AC3,Lang: English

IfoEdit (VTS_06_0.IFO)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: English (DTS ) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x89)
Audio 3: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x82)
Audio 4: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x83)

2. With the two audios showing, Audio_1 and Audio_2 were swapped as per description. Audio attributes confirmed in IfoEdit. See above in RED and BLUE.

3. Even with selected audio unchecked, it still was kept after successful processing. Confirmed in VobEdit.

Update: I had DTS (Audio_1)unchecked in DVD-RB for removal but got Audio_2 , Audio_2 6 Chan,AC3,Lang: English, stripped instead.:confused: Looks like it was following IfoEdit's correct order. Now at the end, I have 3 of 4 audios kept.

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 19:40

Originally posted by Discoboy
DVD-R Version: 0.30
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
Using eclCCE? Y Ver. 1.8b

Stuttering probs update with the latest 030 beta when processing Matrix Revolutions PAL. History:-

028 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters

029 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- stuttering every 2 seconds on video

029b beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- Stuttering every 2 seconds on video
- Audio out of shink now at the 2 second stutter issue

030 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters same as in 028 beta Can anyone else confirm this slight stutter/pixelation? I was convinced it had to be the fix I just made...

phseet

4th April 2004, 20:09

@jdobbs

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? N

Just tried to encode Just Married (PAL) with DVD-RB 0.30 and noticed that DVD-RB is tagging the both the main movie and extras as Progressive. The .avs files also confirm this, i.e. all without (interlaced=true).

However, only the main movie is progressive. This was confirmed by BitRate Viewer. The extras are interlaced. I like to encode the extras without decomb.dll, since I only watch DVDs on TV.
Now I manually edit the rebuilder.ecl to change the values for 'progressive' and 'alternate_scan' for the extras, and also the corresponding .avs files. The movie seems ok so far. Just wanted to know whether this was done on purpose.

Thanks for all the frequent updates! Had weird PAL problems with 0.29.

4th April 2004, 20:21

Originally posted by 2COOL
1. All Audios not detected. I had 2 out of 4 showing. 4 is confirmed in IfoEdit.

DVD-RB
Audio stream to keep:
Audio_1 6 Chan,DTS,Lang: English
Audio_2 6 Chan,AC3,Lang: English

IfoEdit
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: English (DTS ) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x89)
Audio 3: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x82)
Audio 4: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x83)

It looks like DVD-RB is still getting the audio streams info from the title map in VIDEO_TS.IFO (which is often incorrect) and not from the VTS IFO PGCITI table.

DDogg

4th April 2004, 20:23

Originally posted by jdobbs The AudioDub(BlankClip()) line is added to the script if checked (the default) under Options/AVS regardless of the encoder -- I shouldn't have added the confusing additional text to option... Hey, am I just not getting something? There is no AudioDub(BlankClip()) being added to any CCE scripts although the option is checked.

Here is a script created with the AudioDub(BlankClip())option checked -
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder .30 <=== maybe put this in?
# VOBID:03, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\WUTEMP\D2VAVS\V01B.D2V")
trim(0,14136)
ConvertToYUY2()

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 20:27

Originally posted by RB
It looks like DVD-RB is still getting the audio streams info from the title map in VIDEO_TS.IFO (which is often incorrect) and not from the VTS IFO PGCITI table. As I said before -- I don't get my audio information from the title map of VIDEO_TS. I get it from the IFO of the VTS I am processing. The only thing I ever do with VIDEO_TS is check the header to make sure it's valid, and copy it to the destination directory.

2COOL

4th April 2004, 20:27

Originally posted by RB
It looks like DVD-RB is still getting the audio streams info from the title map in VIDEO_TS.IFO (which is often incorrect) and not from the VTS IFO PGCITI table. I'm not at home to confirm if VIDEO_TS.IFO is the culprit but the IfoEdit info I have shown IS from the TitleSet IFO, VTS_06_0.IFO.

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 20:29

Abnormal1

4th April 2004, 20:30

I have just checked the AVS's that .30 created and I also dont get the audiodub line, So DDogg your not the only person that is getting this.
Looking at the other posts in the ReBuilder posts there seems to be problems with the creation of the AVS

Abnormal1

StifflerStealth

4th April 2004, 20:44

Originally posted by DDogg
Hey, am I just not getting something? There is no AudioDub(BlankClip()) being added to any CCE scripts although the option is checked.

Here is a script created with the AudioDub(BlankClip())option checked -
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder .30 <=== maybe put this in?
# VOBID:03, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\WUTEMP\D2VAVS\V01B.D2V")
trim(0,14136)
ConvertToYUY2()

I have the audio option unchecked because I have an Intel Processor, so I went back and checked that option so I can test your problem.
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVDRECODE\D2VAVS\V01B.D2V")
trim(0,13479)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())
As you can see, I have it. So uncheck the audio option and then re-check it to see if that adds that AudioDub line.

Stiff

chadp1a

4th April 2004, 20:49

@jdobbs

DVD-RB Version: .30
Encoder: CCE 2.67
eclCCE: Yes

DVD-RB is not adding the decomb line to any of my avs files that point to the VTS containing interlaced material.

I opened the VOB in question using DVD2AVI and it is reporting interlaced for most of the duration. It will pop up film here and there but for the most part it show interlaced.

Shouldn't the avs contain a reference to decomb, being that I have DVD-RB setup to use it if necessary?

chadp1a

4th April 2004, 20:53

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
I have the audio option unchecked because I have an Intel Processor, so I went back and checked that option so I can test your problem.
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVDRECODE\D2VAVS\V01B.D2V")
trim(0,13479)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())
As you can see, I have it. So uncheck the audio option and then re-check it to see if that adds that AudioDub line.

Stiff

Good post Stiff!

I tried doing what you just said and AudioDub was added for my setup.

I unchecked and checked decomb again hoping it would insert it into my avs because my setup is not detecting my interlaced source... but it doesn't :confused:

StifflerStealth

4th April 2004, 21:01

Originally posted by chadp1a
Good post Stiff!

I tried doing what you just said and AudioDub was added for my setup.

I unchecked and checked decomb again hoping it would insert it into my avs because my setup is not detecting my interlaced source... but it doesn't :confused:

Well, you're 50% there :P. At least it will be easier for jdobbs to find the bug since my suggestion worked. I think I'm 5 for 1 on working vs not. I lost count.

Edit: On second thought. Did you use the previous version's ini file to keep your settings? If so, I think I know what happened. Just a theory though.

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 21:04

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 21:05

Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs

DVD-RB Version: .30
Encoder: CCE 2.67
eclCCE: Yes

DVD-RB is not adding the decomb line to any of my avs files that point to the VTS containing interlaced material.

I opened the VOB in question using DVD2AVI and it is reporting interlaced for most of the duration. It will pop up film here and there but for the most part it show interlaced.

Shouldn't the avs contain a reference to decomb, being that I have DVD-RB setup to use it if necessary? That will be fixed in 0.31 too. I was using picture_structure to make the determination and that just isn't hacking it.

jdobbs

4th April 2004, 21:06

KungFuCow

5th April 2004, 07:50

Hi JDobbs.. another bug Ive noticed in .30. Sometimes the path to MPEG2Dec3dg.dll does not get set in the avisynth script. I did 16 Candles earlier and it added the line for the main movie but not the extra titleset. I had to go in and add it manually and reencode. Without it, I got the "No such function as mpeg2source" error and the red lines at the bottom.

5th April 2004, 11:19

I just backed up Bad Boys II (PAL, Reg 2) with:

DVD-RB 0.30
CCE 2.50
ECLCCE 1.7b

All went smooth and I burned the project. Tested it in my Pioneer DV343 (a pretty good reference player), and there was no stuttering or skipping at chapter points. Thumbs up from here :-)

-tf

JDay

5th April 2004, 11:25

DVD-RB Version: .30
Encoder: QuEnc .45

I reauthored the Hong Kong version of Battle Royale II(NTSC) with DVD Shrink (no compression, main movie, japanese ac3 6ch audio and english subs set to default). The reauthored version works fine but I noticed several problems after running it though rebuilder. When I tried to burn with nero 6 it said "File 'VIDEO_TS.VOB' is not referenced and should not be present", "DVD-Video files reallocation failed". I burned it anyway and tried it on a few players. It would play, but the video was a bit jerky, the subtitles didn't appear (it would allow me to turn them on and off but it didn't make a difference) and the audio would lose sync on skipping chapters (although it would sync back up while skipping chapters). The video was also significantly undersized but I think that's an issue with QuEnc, not DVD-RB.

An unrelated bug- When I click abort during the encoding process (on WinXP) it causes the tabs on the taskbar to dissapear and the start button soon after. While in this state, windows minimize and sit above the taskbar rathe than on it. Rebooting fixes this.

Oh, and thanks for the great work. I am too lazy and poor to use the "Big 3" method, this program is a godsend!

5th April 2004, 11:47

I did Battle Royale II (NTSC) with DVD-RB 0.30 too, but with CCE 2.50. The chapter skipping was gone, but it is true that you don't get any subtitles.

The reason for the missing subtitles is that DVD-RB doesn't support Closed Captions (yet), and that's all there is on that DVD. And that goes for many NTSC dvds (in particular asian ones). I guess that in time, jdobbs will incorporate this feature into DVD-RB.

-tf

najt

5th April 2004, 13:33

Originally posted by jdobbs
Can anyone else confirm this slight stutter/pixelation? I was convinced it had to be the fix I just made...

I just did Pirates of the Caribbean PAL and no stutter/pixelation.

kadilak

5th April 2004, 14:48

I am happy to report that I am no longer getting the audio/video stutter between chapters. Thanks for all the great work!

DDogg

5th April 2004, 15:58

The latest version is v0.31, 5 April 2004. The link to V0.31 seems to point to V0.30 dated 4/4/2004 10:03 AM file name: dvd-rbv030.zip

/add: now working

lab-one

5th April 2004, 16:02

@DDogg

This link (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=469702) points to .31.

5th April 2004, 16:21

jdobbs, are still frames still a known, yet unresolved problem? Just got "Runtime error 9 - subscript out of range" during the prepare step in 0.31 for a VTS that has still frames in various PGCs. Let me know whether you want details.

nooner6

5th April 2004, 16:30

I have the same error as Someone posted earlier when I try the One click mode:

DVD-RB version: 0.30 & 0.31
encoder used: cce 2.62
using eclcce: no
---------------------------
DVD-RB ERROR
---------------------------
There is nothing to do!
DVD-RB couldn't locate appropriate files in working directory! You must PREPARE and ENCODE first.
Aborting.

Movie: Family Man

DDogg

5th April 2004, 16:35

jdobbs, not a biggy, and sorry to even bring it up, but on my machine 0.31 requires you to uncheck, and then recheck, the AudioDub(BlankClip()) everytime you open it. If you don't do this then AudioDub(BlankClip()) is not added to the scripts. It is not only the first initial use. I did make sure and delete the INI, but the same thing happens. Each time dvd-rb is opened, you must uncheck and then recheck the AudioDub(BlankClip()) feature to get it to work.

5th April 2004, 16:37

Originally posted by nooner6
encoder used: cce 2.62
using eclcce: no

You must use EclCCE with CCE 2.62 because this CCE version has no command line support.

loosenut

5th April 2004, 17:07

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y

4a. Stargate SG1, Vol 33, PAL
On a JVC and a Sony standalones: everything OK. No stutter whatsoever on chapter points. All chapters involve dissolve and background music continuing to next chapter. Not a single glitch. Yes!!
On a Philips standalone: Picture freezes on start of each episode - chapter. Arghhh!
Same thing that happens on the &^$&^$$#@@ Philips since day 1. :(

4b. Babylon 5, Season 3, disc 1, PAL.
Run-time error '9'
Subscript out of range
7.7% into rebuilding.
I tried rebuilding with 0.31, same thing.
Retrying from the start with 0.31 now.
Will report back in a ...uhm, a few hours.

you're getting there :)

StifflerStealth

5th April 2004, 17:13

1. DVD-R Version: Encoded with v0.29b, Rebuilt with v0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Bug encountered: Towards the end of a cell the audio would become out-of-sync by a few miliseconds. It isn't by much but it is noticable. Then when the next cell starts, the audio would be in sync again. You need to listen very carefully to catch it sometimes, but other times it is obvious without even trying to look for it. Previous versions and the original DVD did not have this.

I tried to post this yesterday, but I clicked the "Submit Reply" button at the precise time the forum went down.

Stiff

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 17:16

Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, are still frames still a known, yet unresolved problem? Just got "Runtime error 9 - subscript out of range" during the prepare step in 0.31 for a VTS that has still frames in various PGCs. Let me know whether you want details. Yes stills are a continuing issue. I worked on them all night last night and have it pretty much working for CCE (needs testing, though) -- next I must modify my demuxing (ReJig) code. But... the normal error you should see associated with stills is the "0004" during rebuild. I'll have to look at how they might cause problems during PREPARE.

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 17:19

Originally posted by nooner6
I have the same error as Someone posted earlier when I try the One click mode:

DVD-RB version: 0.30 & 0.31
encoder used: cce 2.62
using eclcce: no
---------------------------
DVD-RB ERROR
---------------------------
There is nothing to do!
DVD-RB couldn't locate appropriate files in working directory! You must PREPARE and ENCODE first.
Aborting.

Movie: Family Man At some point I need to develop a FAQ for these recurring questions. This means you have no .M2V files in your working directory. Usually it means ENCODE didn't happen, and that is usually because of bad .AVS files, which in turn are caused by bad or non-existent paths...

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 17:22

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 17:25

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
You need to listen very carefully to catch it sometimes, but other times it is obvious without even trying to look for it. Previous versions and the original DVD did not have this.

I tried to post this yesterday, but I clicked the "Submit Reply" button at the precise time the forum went down.

Stiff Hmmm... I'll check this out. I can't think of anything I've done in the last couple versions that could affect audio sync -- but sometimes the slightest change will have unintended consequences...

StifflerStealth

5th April 2004, 17:28

Maybe I should clarify that previous versions would be v0.26 and below.

Stiff

nwg

5th April 2004, 17:44

jbobbs have you worked out what is causing the runtime error 5 message?

030 still suffers from it.

I only get it when using Quenc.

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 17:56

Originally posted by nwg
jbobbs have you worked out what is causing the runtime error 5 message?

030 still suffers from it.

I only get it when using Quenc. No. I'm starting with the big (lots of people affected) errors first and then working my way back down.

nwg

5th April 2004, 18:04

No. I'm starting with the big (lots of people affected) errors first and then working my way back down.

That's ok I was just wondering. :)

I like QuEnc and think it is a good alternative to CCE in 2 pass mode.

DMagic1

5th April 2004, 18:17

1. DVD-RB v0.30 and 0.29
2. ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Audio becomes out of sync near the end of the 1st chapter. At the start of the 2nd chapter it is corrected. I have done three movie and get the same thing. I'm not sure if it was there in 0.28 or not.

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 18:19

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. DVD-RB v0.30 and 0.29
2. ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Audio becomes out of sync near the end of the 1st chapter. At the start of the 2nd chapter it is corrected. I have done three movie and get the same thing. I'm not sure if it was there in 0.28 or not. You're the second post mentioning the sync issue. I'll look at that closely tonight.

HanSolo00

5th April 2004, 19:13

Outstanding work, jdobbs, thanks for all the hard work you are putting into this great tool.

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Chapter stutter--depends on which player I play the burned project in. It plays flawlessly on the DVD drive in my computer, but stutters at chapter breaks in my cheapo Norcent DVD player (though the Norcent has no trouble with other 1:1 or DVDShrink titles.) Also, of course, the original DVD does not stutter at chapters in the Norcent. Exact same thing happens in v0.29: plays fine on my computer, stutters at chapter breaks in my Norcent. All my testing has been with the same DVD title (The Last Starfighter.)

I had problems not encoding but playing back stills as well, but since they were all in one separate VTS, I just copied the VOB/IFO over instead of using the ones Rebuilder made and they work fine.

5th April 2004, 19:18

Originally posted by jdobbs
Yes stills are a continuing issue. I worked on them all night last night and have it pretty much working for CCE (needs testing, though) -- next I must modifying my demuxing (ReJig) code. But... the normal error you should see associated with stills is the "0004" during rebuild. I'll have to look at how they might cause problems during PREPARE.
Ok, some details. The DVD is Man on the Moon PAL R2, runtime error 9 subscript out of range when processing VobId 07, CellId 01 in VTS2 during Prepare step. Here's the VTS:
Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: Deutsch (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:55.09 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2,3)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:54.14 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:54.14] [Frames: 2864]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:54.24] [Frames: 2874]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:55.09] [Frames: 2884]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:01:59.16 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 4,5,6)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] : time: 00:01:58.21 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:58.21] [Frames: 2971]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 5/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:59.06] [Frames: 2981]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 6/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:59.16] [Frames: 2991]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:02:07.11 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 7)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 7/ 1] : time: 00:00:15.02 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:15.02] [Frames: 377]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 7/ 2] : time: 00:00:05.18 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:20.20] [Frames: 520]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 7/ 3] : time: 00:01:15.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:36.05] [Frames: 2405]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 7/ 4] : time: 00:00:30.21 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:07.01] [Frames: 3176]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 7/ 5] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:07.11] [Frames: 3186]

The 10-framer cells are still frames (1 still frame per cell). The last two AVS files it creates successfully are for VobId 05/CellId 01 and VobId 06/CellId 01 where the latter doesn't look right:

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:05, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MAN ON THE MOON\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(5837,5837)
ConvertToYUY2()

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:06, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MAN ON THE MOON\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(5838,5837)
ConvertToYUY2()

Note the frame number I marked in bold, I think this should be 5838 too. The last few lines of the D2V file it created:7 0 12866 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 128DF 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 1294F 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 12999 2

Oldeman

5th April 2004, 19:35

DVD-RB: Ver .30
Quenc .45
error : run time 5 during rebuild
Options:
one click
Convert to YuY2()
dyn bit rates
Audio Dub
no warnings

appears to be a still frame near the end of the disk
vob:3 cell:1
trim 229329,229329
Convrt to Yu()

This same source runs through with ReJig ok.
Really looks good. This is a very exciting program.

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 19:42

@RB

Excellent feedback. Thanks. No way I purposefully intended to create that trim() statement. That should point me in the right direction.

nwg

5th April 2004, 19:53

What does that trim bit do?

I have seen that as well. I find this AviSynth scripting stuff fascinating.

5th April 2004, 19:59

I'll answer for jdobbs :)

The Trim() statement is used in all DVD-RB AVS files. Without that line, the AVS would refer to the entire VTS. But DVD-RB reencodes at the cell level, so Trim() is used to cut a cell out of the large video stream. In my case however, the Trim() statement seems to be set up incorrectly.

VampHuntD

5th April 2004, 20:13

Hey Jdobbs
Just wanna say thanks for working so hard on this, I'll be trying it out later tonight I think, see if the issue I had got fixed.

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 20:44

Originally posted by HanSolo00
Outstanding work, jdobbs, thanks for all the hard work you are putting into this great tool.

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Chapter stutter--depends on which player I play the burned project in. It plays flawlessly on the DVD drive in my computer, but stutters at chapter breaks in my cheapo Norcent DVD player (though the Norcent has no trouble with other 1:1 or DVDShrink titles.) Also, of course, the original DVD does not stutter at chapters in the Norcent. Exact same thing happens in v0.29: plays fine on my computer, stutters at chapter breaks in my Norcent. All my testing has been with the same DVD title (The Last Starfighter.)

I had problems not encoding but playing back stills as well, but since they were all in one separate VTS, I just copied the VOB/IFO over instead of using the ones Rebuilder made and they work fine. When you say it stutters... does it do it for several frames, one frame... is it very noticable or do you have to look for it?

HanSolo00

5th April 2004, 21:04

The stutter is a single pause of about 0.2 seconds or so at each chapter break, so I'm guessing it is several frames but not sure. It definately is noticable when viewing the movie, I don't have to look for it. And it ONLY seems to happen on my Norcent DVD player; it plays fine on my computer's DVD drive. It can't be the media, because other 1:1 backups work fine.

Incidentally, I haven't noticed any of the audio sync problems others are having in the long chapters that I've checked so far.

Other than the chapter pauses, everything is perfect.

Joergen

5th April 2004, 21:17

jdobbs prolly has ideas for that pause thing but heres something to look at:

-The player jumping/freezing for the audio to come back and thus pausing the video till it does. (the audio gap problem reversed sort of)
-Too high bitrate causes pause
-Too low bitrate causes pause

btw what is the lowest bitrate allowed for a DVD?

nwg

5th April 2004, 21:18

The stutter is a single pause of about 0.2 seconds or so at each chapter break

I had the same thing with Matrix Revolutions PAL using 030. It only did it once while going from one chapter to another. It was chapter 3 to 4. This is where Sereph, Morpheus and Trinity open the door to the train and walk through. It stutters while the door begins to open and freezes for a fraction of a second and then plays normal to the end of the film.

It only did it on my cheap player but my decent player and computer played it fine. My Sony has played discs from every version of DVD-RB perfectly.

I am doing it again with 031 now.

HanSolo00

5th April 2004, 21:28

It pauses for a fraction of a second in my cheap DVD player on every single chapter of the title I converted with DVDRB 0.30. Other compressed titles done by release groups which I've tried on the same media in the same player have no such pauses... so it must be some minor little thing at chapter points that is causing some players hickups. Frustrating to debug though because it only seems to show up after you burn and test it in the player.

One other minor bug, which may have already been fixed by now, is in the settings dialog for CCE 2.50. I selected 6 pass VBR (and it's still there now as a default), but when I looked in the Rebuilder.ecl it has VBR_Pass=5 on every cell. No biggy, 5-pass is fine anyway, but just thought I'd point that out.

5th April 2004, 21:38

The number 5 is correct. It will actually do one pass more than the number in the ecl file.

-tf

loosenut

5th April 2004, 21:39

Originally posted by loosenut
1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y

4a. Stargate SG1, Vol 33, PAL
On a JVC and a Sony standalones: everything OK. No stutter whatsoever on chapter points. All chapters involve dissolve and background music continuing to next chapter. Not a single glitch. Yes!!
On a Philips standalone: Picture freezes on start of each episode - chapter. Arghhh!
Same thing that happens on the &^$&^$$#@@ Philips since day 1. :(

4b. Babylon 5, Season 3, disc 1, PAL.
Run-time error '9'
Subscript out of range
7.7% into rebuilding.
I tried rebuilding with 0.31, same thing.
Retrying from the start with 0.31 now.
Will report back in a ...uhm, a few hours.

you're getting there :)

I Re-did Babylon 5, Season 3, disc 1, PAL, with DVD-R 0.31 and same settings as before:
No chapter stutter
AND....
IT PLAYS PERFECTLY OK ON MY PHILIPS ALSO!!!!!!!
(This was a bug that only yours truly had reported a long time ago, was present in every otherwise perfect backup, and prevented me from actually keeping a backup.
From past experience, I am almost 99,999% sure that since it plays on the Philips, it can play anywhere.
Or at least, the structure is solid!
So you got rid of two bugs with one shot!!!!
Bravo!!
(Just to be absolutely sure, I'll re-do the Stargate DVD with 0.31, to confirm)

HanSolo00

5th April 2004, 21:50

Awesome, loosenut.

I'm redoing my project right now, with 0.31 instead of 0.30. I'll have an update on my chapter pause problem in about 4 hours (I didn't keep my project files.)

Crawl

5th April 2004, 22:33

Hello jdobbs....

Thanks for sharing your program with us.....

Just for feedback

Version = 0.31
Encoder = CCE 2.67.00.08 (but it nevers gets there)
Eclee = No

Roxette The Complete Collection.

DVD contains 4 VTS folders....
VTS02 contains 36 PGC...
When doing the preparing its stopped (in VTS02) at aprox. 75% saying

Runtime error 9
Subscript out of range.

Maybe this tiny little feedback will help you to get get your program to get even better.....

Crawl

jdobbs

5th April 2004, 23:11

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. DVD-RB v0.30 and 0.29
2. ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Audio becomes out of sync near the end of the 1st chapter. At the start of the 2nd chapter it is corrected. I have done three movie and get the same thing. I'm not sure if it was there in 0.28 or not. I think this is only happening on ReJig... I just did a same DVD in ReJig and CCE -- I noticed audio drift on the ReJig version but not on CCE... gotta be related to some difference in the way I process them.

HanSolo00

6th April 2004, 00:57

More detail on the 'chapter pause' issue:

I checked both 0.29a and 0.30 DVDs in my Norcent player. The audio continues to play through the chapter end with no glitch at all, but it's at the end of each chapter that the video pauses for a fraction of a second. If I seek to the chapter starts they play fine. If I rewind slightly and let it play through, the video pauses for a fraction of a second before the next chapter starts. The audio stream plays uninterrupted however.

I'm about halfway completed redoing the project with DVD-RB v0.31 so I'll report my findings after I've finished and burned that one. Maybe it's just my cheap DVD player, but then I'd expect other compressed titles to have similar problems, which they don't.

winny

6th April 2004, 01:07

Oldeman, I'm getting the exact same problem with runtime 5.

DVD-RB : 0.31
Quenc : 0.45
Dynamic bit rate
DVD mounted with Daemon Tools

Prepare and encode work fine, then the rebuild phase copies the unmodified content to video_ts folder.

Processing vts_02
- Processing segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

"Run-time error 5 - Invalid procedure call or argument"

Apologies in advance if ths anything to do with the stills issue, but I read elsewhere that RB would flag problematic content and give a warning, so not sure if this is worthy of a bug report.

Keep up the good work jdobbs, I'm amazed at your progress this far.

Joergen

6th April 2004, 01:10

1. DVD-RB v0.31
2. CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. no bugs, absolutely perfect! :D

I redid the backup on [irrelevant] bonus disc R2 (7.2GB 180+ min) using 0.31 with 3pass CCE (on my romping AMD 64 3200+ rig) and the results are now flawless on a V7 sony PS2, panasonic dvd, sony dvd and a fourth cheapo dvd player (standalones of course).

Thank you jdobbs for making the impossible possible! Finally a reason to register a paypal account!

StifflerStealth

6th April 2004, 01:50

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think this is only happening on ReJig... I just did a same DVD in ReJig and CCE -- I noticed audio drift on the ReJig version but not on CCE... gotta be related to some difference in the way I process them.

I used CCE version 2.67.00.23 and I have the audio out-of-sync thing (Best word I can use when I'm tired :D).

Stiff

sreemv

6th April 2004, 04:58

DVD-RB: 0.31B
EclCCE: Yes
CCE: 2.67

Popup error:
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

Followed by another popup error:
"Stop statement encountered"

The source DVD ripped to HD using DVD decryptor - File mode - ALL files.
The error popped up during the "Rebuild" step.
Trying to backup "Harry Potter Sorcerers Stone".

I must be missing something(?) because this appears to happen with Jurassic Park and I have a feeling will happen with any movie. Please help!

ELT

6th April 2004, 08:41

Hello,

I'm trying to encode Minority Report the pal version. The prepare and encode phase go well but then at rebuilding phase at 95% i get the "Run-time error 5 - Invalid procedure call or argument". I'm using:

DVD-RB : 0.31
Quenc : 0.45
Dynamic bit rate
DVD mounted with Daemon Tools

Keep up the good work!

Sir Didymus

6th April 2004, 10:10

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Chapter stutter. It shows the problem at all chapter breaks in my cheap Medion DVD player. It is a pause of few frames (it is more or less noticeable, but it depend on the chapter).

I also noticed that in the display of the player, if you play the title normally, both the chapter number and the time elapsed is correct; on the other hand, if you play backward through the chapter breaks, the chapter number is not updated and the time elapsed shows a value that is affected by an offset which is exactly the twice of the right value... I hope it is more clear with an example...

Title: Donnie Brasco, PAL, R2

In the following table columns are:
- Chapter number;
- Chapter Start time;
- Time showed in normal play through the following chapter;
- Time showed in backward play through the previous chapter...

1 ... 0:00 .... 5:30 .... n.d.
2 ... 5:30 .... 12:39 ... 10:59 = (5:30 - 0:00) * 2 + 0:00
3 ... 12:39 ... 14:14 ... 19:48 = (12:39 - 5:30) * 2 + 5:30
4 ... 14:14 ... 17:45 ... 15:49 = (14:14 - 12:39) * 2 + 12:39
5 ... 17:45 ... 23:25 ... 21:16 = (17:45 - 14:14) * 2 + 14:14
6 ... 23:25 ... 28:57 ... 29:05 = (23:25 - 17:45) * 2 + 17:45

Tironic

6th April 2004, 10:30

I've tried to decrypt a DVD to M2V and AC3 with vobedit and rebuild from scratch with ifoedit. Sometimes the playlenght of my M2V file is just half the original length, maybe due to layerbreaks. The AC3 length is fine

Originally posted by Sir Didymus
I also noticed that in the display of the player, if you play the title normally, both the chapter number and the time elapsed is correct; on the other hand, if you play backward through the chapter breaks, the chapter number is not updated and the time elapsed shows a value that is affected by an offset which is exactly the twice of the right value... I hope it is more clear with an example...

Could this be a same sort of problem here? I'm not sure if this helps you anything. I hope it does.

Tironic

Marcelw

6th April 2004, 11:09

Hello,

I am watching already for a long time this topic. The tool is fantastic.
But still I want to mention a problem which exist since the start of this tool.
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bugs encountered:

Untill sofar I have every time the same problem with the DVD of Queen live at wembley.(R2). In the phase of prepare I get the famous 9 error. I get annoyed about this error. However, on some other DVD's I don't get these error and on some other I do. I noticed that it should have something to do with stills. But still it is annoying. I would like to contineu with this DVD of Queen

wmansir

6th April 2004, 11:17

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: Runtime Error '9': Subscript out of range.

I was using 1-click mode, testing overnight. For testing purposes I checked Half-D1 and Decomb, in addition to the normal settings I use AudioDub, and ConvertTOYUY2. Checking out the .avs files, everything appears to be setup according to my settings.

It appears that RB Generated this error near the very end of "Rebuilding Segment 19 VOBID:1 CELL:20". Before getting to the NAVPACKS update. Heres the .inf around VOBID:1 Cell:20, as you can see Cell 21 is a still at the end of the VOBID, if that matters.

[V01001900001020]
SCR=583760677.500
PTS=583787436.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=5397
Last_Sector=2769861
Reduction=48.6
[V01002000001021]
SCR=604020417.000
PTS=604045674.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=9365
Last_Sector=2885220
Reduction=48.6
[V01002100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=29707.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=2885224
Reduction=48.6
[V02000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=13520
Last_Sector=144933
Reduction=48.6

trebor

6th April 2004, 12:01

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

End result is way to small. Actually even the *.m2v-files i get during encoding are also to small. Las time i tried this they were all around 100mb somewhere but now they are only around 20mb...
And the end result is around 1.5gb.
Not really shure if this is a bug or if i have missed something :)

nwg

6th April 2004, 12:08

Las time i tried this they were all around 100mb somewhere but now they are only around 20mb.

I also just noticed that.

During a encode, a M2V that was done with 026 was 6MB is now 2MB 030/031. It is like that for all M2V files.

Does that number of CCE passes affect this?

lab-one

6th April 2004, 14:22

@bobwillis

The link appears to be working fine. (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=469702)

Sir Didymus

6th April 2004, 15:17

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Error #0004.

DVD Title: TERMINATOR_2A, PAL, R2

DVD_RB terminates in the first VTS of the title, (containing title menus and extras) during the rebuilding of segment 7, Vob ID 8 Cell ID 1, nearby at the beginning of the rebuild step.

Please note it is the first still picture in the VTS and it is flagged as progressive (by Dvd2Avi), while all of the previous cells are flagged as interlaced. Also Dvd2Avi is not showing the frame rate for this still.

For all of the cells, the AVS scripts are including both of the statements FieldDeinterlace() and ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true).

Vob id . Cell id . Frames . Frame type .. Frame Rate . Trimming
1 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(0,724)
2 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(725,1449)
3 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(1450,2174)
4 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(2175,2899)
5 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(2900,3624)
6 ........ 1 ...... 225 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(3625,3849)
7 ........ 1 ...... 100 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(3850,3949)
8 ........ 1 ...... 1 ..... Progressive . Not showed . trim(3950,3950)

KinhKha

6th April 2004, 16:17

did Matrix revolution disk1 around 79%, 1 pass ~ 2hr (and also Blade2)
1. DVD-RB v0.31
2. CCE SP 2.67.0.10
3. Using eclCCE? Y 1.8b
4. no serious bugs
5. result's size: always get around 4.32 GB

checking:
Import result to Shrink: ok
Import to CloneDVD2 and slide the movie to the end, no Navigation Pack error
But I have to use IfoEdit to do "Get VTS sector" (with v 0.26 I did not have to do this)
PS: Play back ok on PC and standalone DVD player( before and after "get VTS sectors")

jikchung

6th April 2004, 16:56

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

I get the same errors on playback as Sir Didymus, namely some chapter stutter, chapters not updated in display if rewind/FF is used, and wrong display of elapsed times.

DVD is Highlander Season 2 Disc 2. Otherwise the results are fantastic (except for that pesky ooo4 error on stills, hope that's worked out soon.)

My stand alone player is an Apex 5131 if that helps any.

t1955feb

6th April 2004, 17:58

DVD-RB: 0.31B
rejig

Popup error:
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

DVD ripped to hd using DVD decryptor - File mode - ALL files.
The error popped up during the Rebuild step.

Toranaga

6th April 2004, 18:02

Originally posted by jdobbs
Can anyone else confirm this slight stutter/pixelation? I was convinced it had to be the fix I just made...

I just ran Blade II using 0.28 and the audio stutters quite often :(

jdobbs

6th April 2004, 18:07

Originally posted by sreemv
DVD-RB: 0.31B
EclCCE: Yes
CCE: 2.67

Popup error:
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

Followed by another popup error:
"Stop statement encountered"

The source DVD ripped to HD using DVD decryptor - File mode - ALL files.
The error popped up during the "Rebuild" step.
Trying to backup "Harry Potter Sorcerers Stone".

I must be missing something(?) because this appears to happen with Jurassic Park and I have a feeling will happen with any movie. Please help! This is the known "stills" issue.

lab-one

6th April 2004, 18:08

@toranaga

I just ran Blade II using 0.28 and the audio stutters quite often

I think you need to run it through .31 to get a valid finished back-up. Many changes have been made since .28. Read about the changes/updates here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?postid=469702)

brikin

6th April 2004, 18:15

JDobbs

I am getting this error

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

with .31 The m2v file this happens on is not a still though so there might be another problem out there causing this.

Toranaga

6th April 2004, 18:28

Originally posted by lab-one
@toranaga

I think you need to run it through .31 to get a valid finished back-up. Many changes have been made since .28. Read about the changes/updates here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?postid=469702)

Trying it now. This is an awesome product non-the-less.

jdobbs

6th April 2004, 18:37

Originally posted by Toranaga
I just ran Blade II using 0.28 and the audio stutters quite often :( You need to update to .31 -- there was a major bugfix related to this done between .29 and .30

Note added later: Whoops, I guess I answered this one too late...

lab-one

6th April 2004, 18:45

@jdobbs

Note added later: Whoops, I guess I answered this one too late...

Yeah, I can't seem to get motivated to do WORK so I'm avoiding the inevitable here...

CeanD

6th April 2004, 18:49

Still getting the buffer error.

Always happens at the same point, when it's rebuilding the compressed m2v's.

sreemv

6th April 2004, 19:13

Originally posted by jdobbs
This is the known "stills" issue.

And, this occurs with 90% of the movies? In my case its 100% so far
:( and I have just found this tool.

Is there a way to avoid it? Much appreciated.

6th April 2004, 19:21

It's hardly 90%. I've done 15 movies now, and not one of them have had still-issues.

-tf

jdobbs

6th April 2004, 19:21

Originally posted by sreemv
And, this occurs with 90% of the movies? In my case its 100% so far
:( and I have just found this tool.

Is there a way to avoid it? Much appreciated. It's been at about 5% for me -- so I think there is something else wrong...

nwg

6th April 2004, 19:36

Originally posted by sreemv

And, this occurs with 90% of the movies? In my case its 100% so far
and I have just found this tool.

Is there a way to avoid it? Much appreciated.

For me about the 50% off the DVD's I wanted to try have still frames. The weird thing is Back to the Future (which has photo galleries in the menu) worked with CCE and Rejig but not QuEnc.

I have managed to get round it on some DVD's by using DVD Stripper and manually deleting the photos one by one.

robw

6th April 2004, 19:45

I hope this is a clue to the buffer problem. The movie Doctor Zhivago (DVD#1) has a long introduction (1 frame) with several minutes of music. During Rebuild, DVD-RB failed here. If I first run the DVD through DVDReMake 1.4.1 whithout removing the still, DVD-RB successfully processes the DVDReMake output.

HanSolo00

6th April 2004, 20:26

DVD-Decrypter = v3.2.1.0
DVD-RB = v0.31
CCE = v2.50
EclCCE = nope
Recorder = Nero 6.3.1.6

I redid my last project, burned and tested, & still get chapter break video stutter in my Norcent DVD player. To eliminate the possibility of an error introduced from my menu editing program (DVD Remake), I started a different project and did the whole thing in DVD-RB. After burning, I still get chapter stutter in my Norcent.

Although I don't get any such stutter in DVD-Shrink/Nero Recode 2/Nero Vision projects, I'm beginning to suspect my cheap DVD player, because the discs play fine on my computer.

Anyone else getting the slight video pauses on chapter breaks? If so, what make/model DVD player? Seems to only happen on the cheaper DVD players.

Otherwise, 0.31 works great for me.

jdobbs

6th April 2004, 20:30

Originally posted by HanSolo00
DVD-Decrypter = v3.2.1.0
DVD-RB = v0.31
CCE = v2.50
EclCCE = nope
Recorder = Nero 6.3.1.6

I redid my last project, burned and tested, & still get chapter break video stutter in my Norcent DVD player. To eliminate the possibility of an error introduced from my menu editing program (DVD Remake), I started a different project and did the whole thing in DVD-RB. After burning, I still get chapter stutter in my Norcent.

Although I don't get any such stutter in DVD-Shrink/Nero Recode 2/Nero Vision projects, I'm beginning to suspect my cheap DVD player, because the discs play fine on my computer.

Anyone else getting the slight video pauses on chapter breaks? If so, what make/model DVD player? Seems to only happen on the cheaper DVD players.

Otherwise, 0.31 works great for me. I have no doubt that some of the stuttering problems are related to cheap players -- but that still means that DVD-RB is doing something incorrectly, but better players seem to be able to get around it. My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.;)

robw

6th April 2004, 20:37

Originally posted by jdobbs
My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.

I tried it out. Put the DVD in my toaster and got a lot of stuttering and pixelation when I grabbed the damn thing while it was still hot. Otherwise DVD-RB 0.31 is working great for me.

Back to the standalone player for now. Let me know if you get the toaster thing working!

sreemv

6th April 2004, 20:53

Originally posted by jdobbs
It's been at about 5% for me -- so I think there is something else wrong...

Umm...well I tried 2 movies so far [HP Sorcerer's stone and Jurassicpark] and both had issues - I guess I will try more to find out my %.

But is it posisble to save the first 2 stages [prepare and encode] and possibly use it later when the "still" bug is fixed perhaps?

Thanks for your help!

chadp1a

6th April 2004, 21:07

HanSolo00

6th April 2004, 21:13

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have no doubt that some of the stuttering problems are related to cheap players -- but that still means that DVD-RB is doing something incorrectly, but better players seem to be able to get around it. My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.;)

My kind of programmer;)

If I had to guess, I'd suspect something happening at the end of the CCE M2V's... because other people have told me they've had similar problems on discs redone with CCE. Also, the audio is fine--only the video pauses for a fractional second, as if trying to resync to next chapter's start.

I was pondering deleting the chapter points in the IFO and then converting the main VTS in a single continuous CCE M2V, but adjusting the chapter pointers etc in the IFO and getting it all to work again afterwards would be a headache. Might be worth a try though.

nwg

6th April 2004, 21:25

Anyone else getting the slight video pauses on chapter breaks? If so, what make/model DVD player? Seems to only happen on the cheaper DVD players.

My Sony which cost me £380 plays perfectly. My Cyberhome which cost me £50 does not. However only Matrix Revolutions so far is affected.

I have just done it with Rejig rather than CCE to see if there is any difference.

robw

6th April 2004, 21:40

I did a small google search on stuttering/pixelation at chapter points. It looks like stuttering and pixelation could fill quite a volume. The following reference may be helpful:

http://www.puremotion.com/cgi-local/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=3&topic=152

Many reported cases using a wide range of hardware/software. There can be many causes especially the recording media, the DVD player or the DVD burning software; but special emphasis seems to go to the player in many cases. That is not to say that the encoding software does not play a crucial role. If you vary from the official DVD standard, problems may occur. In this case, players are not equal in terms of their error correction capabilities and stutter can occur during such times.

Toranaga

6th April 2004, 22:44

6th April 2004, 23:05

Odd, mine is a Pioneer DV343 - an earlier model - and it does not suffer from the stuttering on the backups I've done with 0.30 and 0.31.

-tf

jdobbs

6th April 2004, 23:10

Originally posted by Toranaga
My player is a Pioneer DV-545. I would not call that a cheap player. That's why I said "some".

hypo20

6th April 2004, 23:20

@jdobbs

Ok. I just tested DVD woth version 31. Everything is OK while making DVD, BUT:

1) DVD, that has still frames is doing BIG problems to standalones I have tested (about 9) (tested on Pearl Harbor)

2) video and audio stopps fot about one second and then continuing sometimes in the movie (not when changing chapters - tested on Pearl Harbor)

Actually, these are the only problems I have. Prob No.1 is the BIGGEST prob of this baby, I think. STILLS, grrrrrrrrr. I think, it is poisoning your mind every night, jdobbs. :D Only this problem, and I'll start use DVD-RB as regular backup tool for my DVD's. :)

Sayitpunk

6th April 2004, 23:22

DVD-RB 0.31
CCE 2.67.00.23
ECL-CCE Yes

Not sure if I can give you enough information, but here goes.

Attempting to do R2 PAL "Wizard of Oz"
This DVD has buckets of extras all contained in VTS 02 along with the movie, audio is as follows:-

Audio 01 6 Chan AC3 English
Audio 02 1 Chan AC3 French
Audio 03 1 Chan AC3 Italian
Audio 04 2 Chan AC3 English
Audio 05 1 Chan AC3 English
Audio 06 1 Chan AC3 English

I am discarding the two foreign language tracks, and keeping all the English tracks. All appears well with RB, but when playing back, the audio has gone from all the extras.

Power DVD reports the affected soundtrack to be English 4 (Which I suppose means Audio 06)

I hope this helps.

Congratulations on what already is a fantastic achievement.

brikin

7th April 2004, 00:12

Using .31
CCE 2.66

The video played back perfectly on my stand alone. The weird thing is when I rewind the time on the DVD player gets messed up. If I am on 8 minutes then rewind the time will change to some higher number (greater then 8 minutes) Fast forwarding has no ill effects. If I change the chapter the time corrects itself. I don't know if this is a navigation problem or what.

Like I said though video contiued to play fine. No stuttering what so ever.

Thanks
Brik

quantum

7th April 2004, 00:18

I noticed this too but it wasn't consistent. It only happened at certain points and didn't seem to happen every time. But it does suggest there may still be some things that need fixing.

sreemv

7th April 2004, 00:18

I moved DVD-RB into its own folder and checked the box "with AVS" (?) under the MPEg2DEC3dg.dll(?) option in setup(?)- I dont recall reading about the check box anywhere - but anyway that seems to have made a difference? - I do not get the buffer overflow, 0004 error anymore - atleast not with Harry Potter and Sorcerer's stone one.

And the quality on my first glance looks amazing after the 6 pass CCE.

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 00:47

Originally posted by sreemv
I moved DVD-RB into its own folder and checked the box "with AVS" (?) under the MPEg2DEC3dg.dll(?) option in setup(?)- I dont recall reading about the check box anywhere - but anyway that seems to have made a difference? - I do not get the buffer overflow, 0004 error anymore - atleast not with Harry Potter and Sorcerer's stone one.

And the quality on my first glance looks amazing after the 6 pass CCE. Interesting. That means that you probably have an different version of MPEG2DEC.DLL resident on your computer somewhere that was previously doing the decoding. By clicking that box you've told DVD-RB to make AVISYNTH specifically use the version that is in the path. Is the MPEG2DEC3DG.dll path you selected located in the "plugins" directory of the AVISYNTH folder? My guess would be "no" -- another answer might be that the AVISYNTH registry entry points elsewhere.

Joergen

7th April 2004, 00:55

jdobbs, I dont know if its possible but wouldnt it help us all if you incorporated all the third party stuff into the dvd-rb.exe itself? Or make it an installer package that CANT go wrong. There seems to be too many variables with the extra stuff needing to be installed properly.

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 00:57

This is definitely a lesson learned from the beta test. When I release this I am going to remove the path choice for MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL and just put the file into the DVD-RB directory. I will then add the LoadPlugin() line to every AVS.

This is one of the reasons for a beta... is shows a procedural weakness that has caused a lot of problems -- that weren't really "programming" problems.

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 01:01

jdobbs, I dont know if its possible but wouldnt it help us all if you incorporated all the third party stuff into the dvd-rb.exe itself? One of the problems with incorporating third-party software into the program itself is that if it is open-source, I am obligated to make my code open-source as well.

I might do that eventually anyway, but if you look at all the versions of DVD2AVI or other software and try to figure out which one is the "right" one -- you can see why I want to (at least for now) keep some configuration control over the program.

robw

7th April 2004, 01:05

Originally posted by jdobbs
One of the problems with incorporating third-party software into the program itself is that if it is open-source, I am obligated to make my code open-source as well.

wouldn't an installation program that asks for the location of third party software, followed by verification, take care of this issue? You could store the information in an ini file.

Joergen

7th April 2004, 01:07

Oh yes, a CRC check for the 3rd party stuff would do the trick!

EDIT: On the other hand, the less easy it is to install the less likely sombeody will sell it on ebay for 10 bucks a pop.

robw

7th April 2004, 01:13

right now you can put in locations for some of the .dll files or not as you wish. If they're not given the program defaults to locating them in the registry. Rather than this, I'm suggesting that the program not run if these file locations are not specified.

When I started using DVD-RB, the program could not locate MPEG2DEC3. I reinstalled AVISYNTH. That still didn't work. Finally, I went to the registry and figured out (thanks quantum) that it was pointing to somewhere other than the avisynth directory. Actually, it was pointing to a subdirectory created by Chatwalker the creator of DVD2DVD-R. I suspect more than a few people using DVD-RB have fallen into the same "gotcha."

loosenut

7th April 2004, 01:46

@ Jdobbs:
Although Pal encodings work OK, I just did "Something's Gotta Give" R1. (0.31, CCE 2.50, 3pass)
Sound is OK, BUT, to my surprise, apparently THERE IS a picture "jump".
It's unnoticable to all chapter (and cell)transitions, except between 1&2. One has to be blind not to see it. And it's visible even on PowerDVD. It's a convertible going fast from the bottom to the top of the screen. Checking the m2v's, it seems to me that a couple of frames from the second chapter (cell 3)are left in the first (cell 2), so the jump is quite obvious. Maybe they are overlapping, but I can't be sure.
Checking the original cells, the cut between chapters is clear (different scenes)
IMHO, this could be a good testing DVD :)

loosenut

7th April 2004, 01:49

Originally posted by robw
I suspect more than a few people using DVD-RB have fallen into the same "gotcha."
LOL!!! Yes they have!!!:D

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 01:52

Originally posted by loosenut
@ Jdobbs:
Although Pal encodings work OK, I just did "Something's Gotta Give" R1. (0.31, CCE 2.50, 3pass)
Sound is OK, BUT, to my surprise, apparently THERE IS a picture "jump".
It's unnoticable to all chapter (and cell)transitions, except between 1&2. One has to be blind not to see it. And it's visible even on PowerDVD. It's a convertible going fast from the bottom to the top of the screen. Checking the m2v's, it seems to me that a couple of frames from the second chapter (cell 3)are left in the first (cell 2), so the jump is quite obvious. Maybe they are overlapping, but I can't be sure.
Checking the original cells, the cut between chapters is clear (different scenes)
IMHO, this could be a good testing DVD :) Sigh... I did that one with CCE -- no jump on any of my three DVD players. When I did it with ReJig, though that scene had a huge sound dropout.

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 01:57

Just so you know -- I'm going over every line of code looking for this. I'm even rewriting the way in which I'm keeping frames (don't worry I've saved all the original code) so I can see if I have tunnel vision... This is the most important bug to me. I can correct for stills, I can incorporate button-over-video, and I can get interleaving working -- but none of it means anything if I can't deliver consistent quality on these "simple" DVDs... don't look for another version until I fix this.

loosenut

7th April 2004, 02:06

Originally posted by jdobbs
Sigh... I did that one with CCE -- no jump on any of my three DVD players. When I did it with ReJig, though that scene had a huge sound dropout.
On my 3 neither :). Maybe I could not see it, maybe they have some error correction. But since this is the first time I could actually see a jump on PowerDVD, plus the misplaced frames in the m2vs, I'd thought I'd mention it. Keep up the good work :)

Joergen

7th April 2004, 03:24

Neo.. erm JDobbs.. we believe! ;)

dave88

7th April 2004, 03:59

I tried again with DVDRB .31 and I still got the stutter, what I get seems like the video speeds up for about 1/2 second and is very noticable in powerdvd or on standalone otherwise quality is superb.

Hopefully you can get it worked out, because otherwise it's the most awesome tool to come around in a long, long time.

Thank you for your efforts

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 04:03

Originally posted by Joergen
Neo.. erm JDobbs.. we believe! ;) I also just had an epiphany as to how I could ensure 100% frame-to-frame matching between mixed-mode interlaced/progressive as well as mixed telecined/straight-mode streams. I've already replaced the code and am testing overnight... if this works, never again will we NTSC'ers have to settle for one or the other when doing a CCE run. And for those who are concerned -- no, it isn't using CCE's reverse telecining...

If it turns out not to work (but I think it will), I'll go back in and delete this post so everyone will think I'm smarter. I have no pride.:D

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 04:09

Originally posted by dave88
I tried again with DVDRB .31 and I still got the stutter, what I get seems like the video speeds up for about 1/2 second and is very noticable in powerdvd or on standalone otherwise quality is superb.

Hopefully you can get it worked out, because otherwise it's the most awesome tool to come around in a long, long time.

Thank you for your efforts Oh, I'll get it fixed. No doubt. It's almost assuredly just a timing error. There's always a way to fix it -- it just sometimes requires that I bang my head against the wall for a few hours before it is finally beaten into submission.

After this project I'm going to have a noticably flattened head.

djan

7th April 2004, 04:26

Originally posted by DDogg
jdobbs, not a biggy, and sorry to even bring it up, but on my machine 0.31 requires you to uncheck, and then recheck, the AudioDub(BlankClip()) everytime you open it. If you don't do this then AudioDub(BlankClip()) is not added to the scripts. It is not only the first initial use. I did make sure and delete the INI, but the same thing happens. Each time dvd-rb is opened, you must uncheck and then recheck the AudioDub(BlankClip()) feature to get it to work. Wow, I didn't read this post and did a movie with AudioDub(BlankClip()) checked but not used in the AVS file. Is it a big problem ? Do I have to remake the backup ?

There is one of my AVS files :

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb510.dll")
mpeg2source("S:\- DVD -\GAD2_1_SCN\RB\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(0,1437)
FieldDeinterlace()
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

Also, I would like to know. Like you see the script, does it use DECOMB to deinterlace ?

I'm using DVDRB 0.31 with CCE 2.50 SP. Thx.

brikin

7th April 2004, 05:16

Originally posted by brikin
Using .31
CCE 2.66

The video played back perfectly on my stand alone. The weird thing is when I rewind the time on the DVD player gets messed up. If I am on 8 minutes then rewind the time will change to some higher number (greater then 8 minutes) Fast forwarding has no ill effects. If I change the chapter the time corrects itself. I don't know if this is a navigation problem or what.

Like I said though video contiued to play fine. No stuttering what so ever.

Thanks
Brik

I just realized that I was using .30 instead of .31. .30 had the dvd as progressive instead of interlaced. So I re-encoded all my interlaced material as progressive. I will redo this tonight and see if this fixes the problem above.

Thanks

nwg

7th April 2004, 05:35

Is this stutter being introduced during rebuilding? So, I can take a project done with 031 and rebuild with the version that works and the backup will be perfect?

DDogg wrote,
jdobbs, not a biggy, and sorry to even bring it up, but on my machine 0.31 requires you to uncheck, and then recheck, the AudioDub(BlankClip()) everytime you open it. If you don't do this then AudioDub(BlankClip()) is not added to the scripts. It is not only the first initial use. I did make sure and delete the INI, but the same thing happens. Each time dvd-rb is opened, you must uncheck and then recheck the AudioDub(BlankClip()) feature to get it to work.

I only just noticed this. Audio seems fine on the ones I have done. What is the command for?

Toranaga

7th April 2004, 07:41

Like I said I did it with 0.28.

KinhKha

7th April 2004, 09:53

Movie: Bicentennial Man /Pal/region4
1. DVD-RB 0.31
2. CCESP 2.67.0.10 (1 pass)
3. EclCCE 1.8b
4. Remove Extra / keep 1 audio stream before doing DVD-RB . Compression 79%
Phase I and II worked ok
Phase III Rebuild : Error #0004 buffer overflow. at segment 6 VOBID:1 CellID:7

(This is the first time I have this error, the other tests just fine)

jed

7th April 2004, 10:36

1. DVD-RB 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Yes
4. Bug encountered: run-time error '9' when rebuilding Alias season 1 disk 6.

Is this a comon problem ay the rebuilding stage, do you need any more info?

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 11:25

Originally posted by nwg
Is this stutter being introduced during rebuilding? So, I can take a project done with 031 and rebuild with the version that works and the backup will be perfect?

I only just noticed this. Audio seems fine on the ones I have done. What is the command for? First question: No. Second question: It is there to circumvent two bugs in CCE, one related to AMD processors and another associated with memory leaks. If you got through your encodes ok you have nothing to worry about.

Wilbert

7th April 2004, 12:12

Sorry for being ot:

FieldDeinterlace()
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
If you deinterlace before converting to YUY2, you should use

FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) # probably better to use KernelDeint
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=false)

or what is the same

FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) # probably better to use KernelDeint
ConvertToYUY2()

However, since your are encoding to dvd I guess, you shouldn't deinterlace at all. In that case, just use

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb510.dll")
mpeg2source("S:\- DVD -\GAD2_1_SCN\RB\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(0,1437)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

Btw, about AudioDub(BlankClip()). I don't use CCE (so I'm sure someone will correct me), but with older versions as 2.67 you need that line so that CCE works correctly (reason is not important). 2.67 doesn't need that.

But I see it's working fine for you, without adding that line :confused:

KinhKha

7th April 2004, 13:40

Originally posted by KinhKha
Movie: Bicentennial Man /Pal/region4
1. DVD-RB 0.31
2. CCESP 2.67.0.10 (1 pass)
3. EclCCE 1.8b
4. Remove Extra / keep 1 audio stream before doing DVD-RB . Compression 79%
Phase I and II worked ok
Phase III Rebuild : Error #0004 buffer overflow. at segment 6 VOBID:1 CellID:7

(This is the first time I have this error, the other tests just fine)

continue testing on the same movie Bicentennial Man
I switch back to v0.26 and test it again . Infact I just put DVDRebuilder026.exe in the same DVD-RB 0.31 folder , press Transcode to do it again.
This time I have no error at all, everything came out just perfect.
(sorry to post a testing of old build v0.26 in the 0.30+ thread. )

Ps: I have no error at all with 0.26 (around 7 tests) . From 0.27 to 0.30: all runtime error 6. v0.31: 2 good , 2 error #0004

nwg

7th April 2004, 14:14

jdobbs wrote
First question: No. Second question: It is there to circumvent two bugs in CCE, one related to AMD processors and another associated with memory leaks. If you got through your encodes ok you have nothing to worry about.

Thanks for the reply.

1

It is a good thing that it won't as I put both DTS and DD and it ended up as 5.10GB. It would have fit if I just used DD. Therefore, I have decided to not use DVD-RB until the stutter is fixed. Although, it isn't a big problem for me as my main player plays the discs fine. I may try 026 again and look for the stutter I know in Matrix Revolutions. I have had no problems with that version.

2

So it is the same as the addaudio command. I have a AMD chip (Athlon XP 2000) and even though the command isn't put into the AVS scipts, it still works fine.

bodhead

7th April 2004, 14:28

hi all.
ok here heres my prob,i tried to do red dwarf series 4 disc 1 PAL.now its interlaced,everything goes fine encoding all of it,but if i play it back in my sony dvd player its like its not keeping the interlace.
its all jerky,same on power dvd.the original is smooth as silk,i have tried all setting in dvdrb 0.31.encoded it about 4 times now.i even tried decomb but it came out very soft.i want to keep the interlace if poss,maybe its a field problem but i cant select one or the other.

ps.
great program
i am using CCE 2.67.00.23 trial with eclCCE

Sir Didymus

7th April 2004, 15:07

Originally posted by bodhead
hi all.
ok here heres my prob,i tried to do red dwarf series 4 disc 1 PAL.now its interlaced,everything goes fine encoding all of it,but if i play it back in my sony dvd player its like its not keeping the interlace.
its all jerky,same on power dvd.the original is smooth as silk,i have tried all setting in dvdrb 0.31.encoded it about 4 times now.i even tried decomb but it came out very soft.i want to keep the interlace if poss,maybe its a field problem but i cant select one or the other.

ps.
great program
i am using CCE 2.67.00.23 trial with eclCCE

This is very intersting, in my opinion, since it is pointing to errors different from the ones related to still frames and image stutters...

I also have some troubles related to jerky encoding (but they are not related to the interlace), please see:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051&perpage=20&pagenumber=11

In my opinion, for the implications with DVD-RB, it is better to wait until the actual 2 majour type of bugs of DVD-RB are corrected, since their impact on the % of the DVD title backups is very high...

Just for my couriosity, could you please check what is the size [I mean 720 x 576 or 704 x 576] which is reported by Dvd2Avi when you open each one of the VOBS of your title ?

Cheers,
SD

wmansir

7th April 2004, 15:16

Movie: This is Spinaltap / R1
1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: FieldDeinterlace() added to SOME progressive clips, but Decomb was not loaded, so an avisynth error was generated.

This was another 1-click test I did overnight last night. I woke up and found it about 1 gig undersized. Examining the files I found that some of the progressive material had FieldDeinterlace() in the script, but decomb was not loaded in these scripts, which caused an error.

djan

7th April 2004, 16:40

Originally posted by Wilbert
Sorry for being ot:

If you deinterlace before converting to YUY2, you should use

FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) # probably better to use KernelDeint
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=false)

or what is the same

FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) # probably better to use KernelDeint
ConvertToYUY2()

However, since your are encoding to dvd I guess, you shouldn't deinterlace at all. In that case, just use

LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb510.dll")
mpeg2source("S:\- DVD -\GAD2_1_SCN\RB\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(0,1437)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

Btw, about AudioDub(BlankClip()). I don't use CCE (so I'm sure someone will correct me), but with older versions as 2.67 you need that line so that CCE works correctly (reason is not important). 2.67 doesn't need that.

But I see it's working fine for you, without adding that line :confused: Hi, the script is auto-generated by DVDRB so it's to jdobb to talk about. :)

I tried the same movie without FieldDeinterlace() and the movie looked very bad on WinDVD, I don't know if it's the same on my standAlone. Isn't the deinterlace function used to make compression easier and better ? If not, as I would use the DVD only on standalones, I prefer to not deinterlace.

I don't think DECOMB is needed when using ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true). Is it ?

jikchung

7th April 2004, 16:58

@jdobbs

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Still getting chapter stutter, chapters not updated in display if rewind/FF is used, and wrong display of elapsed times.

On the other hand, this disc was giving me the 0004 error previously in rebuild. Saw the post by sreemv about specifying the path to MPEG2DEC3DG.dll. So I specified the path and got no error on rebuild.

Wilbert

7th April 2004, 17:08

I tried the same movie without FieldDeinterlace() and the movie looked very bad on WinDVD, I don't know if it's the same on my standAlone. Isn't the deinterlace function used to make compression easier and better ?
No. (Although it makes compression easier and better.) It is used it you encode to XviD/DivX (VCD, sometimes SVCD), for playback on your pc. When playing back with WinDVD you have to select one of those deinterlace options (somewhere in the menu :)). It should be fine on your standalone though.

Deinterlacing degrades the quality of the video.

I don't think DECOMB is needed when using ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true). Is it ?
True, not needed.

Hi, the script is auto-generated by DVDRB so it's to jdobb to talk about. :)
jdobb, where are you?

bodhead

7th April 2004, 17:27

to Sir Didymus

my VOBS show 720 x 576
if thats any help

jdobbs

7th April 2004, 17:28

If your source is interlaced -- ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) will be used. DECOMB will only be used if you have checked it under options and the source is interlaced. You don't always need to use deinterlacing -- in fact it is probably best not to use it in most scenarios.

Hi, the script is auto-generated by DVDRB so it's to jdobb to talk about Only if you select it.

trebor

7th April 2004, 19:38

Originally posted by robw
Finally, I went to the registry and figured out (thanks quantum) that it was pointing to somewhere other than the avisynth directory. Actually, it was pointing to a subdirectory created by Chatwalker the creator of DVD2DVD-R. I suspect more than a few people using DVD-RB have fallen into the same "gotcha."

That's exactly what happened to me to. Dvdrebuilder used the avisynth plugin located in c:\program\dvd2dvdr\avisynth\plugins instead of the one i just installed in c:\program\avisynth2.5\plugins. I have no idea why but editing avisynth path in registry did the trick :p
In my case it didn't result in any errormessage but instead the final outcome was way to small (around 1.5gb) but not any longer :D

sreemv

7th April 2004, 20:53

Does anyone else have problems burning the result from DVD-RB 0.31 to disk using Nero 6.3.1.6?

It complains "video files relocation failed"?

7th April 2004, 20:58

I've done 4 movies with 0.31, neither have had Nero complain about the vobs. A few of the ones I did with 0.30 had.

-tf

robw

7th April 2004, 21:04

gearpro professional 6.03 also complains. I don't have the exact message right now but will post later. So far, I have ignored the warning and DVDs have played ok

Toranaga

7th April 2004, 21:15

I just tried Blade II NTSC again with 0.31 and playback is still choppy allthough less than with 0.28. However as long as the there are dopouts in the audio and video it is unusable. I am trying my luck with Finding Nemo PAL as I am typing this. I will let you now how it goes. I am using CCE 4-pass.

Joergen

7th April 2004, 22:32

Dont waste computing time with über-19-pass encoding if youre just testing.

I've done four burns from different movies with dvdrb 27 and 31 and nero hasnt complained.

robot1

7th April 2004, 22:56

@Toranaga
Isn't Finding Nemo multi-angle?
These features aren't supported yet.

Toranaga

7th April 2004, 23:07

It says nothing on the package about multi-angle.

wmansir

7th April 2004, 23:11

Originally posted by Toranaga
It says nothing on the package about multi-angle.

It's not multi-angle, it has seamless branching, which also isn't supported. It is what is used to do the 'visual commentary'.

cleo510

7th April 2004, 23:17

Hello jdobbs,

I've posted a bug report but unfortunaly I've created a new tread instead to post it in this one.
It's called DVDRB bug report and created yesterday by me (cleo510).
Have you a idea about this bug, Msc_Alex have the same bug!

Cleo510

djan

8th April 2004, 01:34

Originally posted by jdobbs
If your source is interlaced -- ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) will be used. DECOMB will only be used if you have checked it under options and the source is interlaced. You don't always need to use deinterlacing -- in fact it is probably best not to use it in most scenarios.

Only if you select it. jdobbs, I was refering to what Wilbert told about.

If you deinterlace before converting to YUY2, you should use

FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) # probably better to use KernelDeint
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=false)

or what is the same

FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) # probably better to use KernelDeint
ConvertToYUY2()

WndrBr3d

8th April 2004, 03:34

I get a 'Runtime Error 52: Bad File Name or Nuber' when I start DVD-RB.

I've trouble shooted the problem and it's because the source folder no longer exists. I unmounted the ISO and the re-started DVD-RB. When I comment out the 'SOURCE=' line in the INI file, the error stops.

Aside from that, EXCELLENT software. I'm pleased I finally have a 1-Click solution that supports CCE.

Keep up the good work!

Also, quick question. You say you want people to buy CCE Basic for $59, but from what i've seen, couldn't I just use the CCE Trial with eclCCE and it'll allow my to do multi-pass? Is there an advantage to the full version of CCE Basic compared to the trial of CCE SP with eclCCE?

Again, great software. I cant sing enough praise! :D

Paced

8th April 2004, 03:56

@djan - and others whom are interested

In my experience, Telecide() is a better choice over FieldDeinterlace() - at least for PAL users anyway. FieldDeinterlace (even with 'blend=false') generates unacceptable "artifacts." Check out this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72648

You'll see what I mean after reading through it :cool:

jdobbs

8th April 2004, 04:40

Originally posted by WndrBr3d
I get a 'Runtime Error 52: Bad File Name or Nuber' when I start DVD-RB.

I've trouble shooted the problem and it's because the source folder no longer exists. I unmounted the ISO and the re-started DVD-RB. When I comment out the 'SOURCE=' line in the INI file, the error stops.

Aside from that, EXCELLENT software. I'm pleased I finally have a 1-Click solution that supports CCE.

Keep up the good work!

Also, quick question. You say you want people to buy CCE Basic for $59, but from what i've seen, couldn't I just use the CCE Trial with eclCCE and it'll allow my to do multi-pass? Is there an advantage to the full version of CCE Basic compared to the trial of CCE SP with eclCCE?

Again, great software. I cant sing enough praise! :D I'm not sure what limitations are placed on the trial version. I have no connection to Cinema Craft and don't want to appear to "want" anyone to do anything -- but I do believe that their encoder is the best on the market and as such is deserving of purchase. I personally bought it for that reason.

KungFuCow

8th April 2004, 04:43

If youre using the trial version in it's true form, there will be a watermark on your encoding project, if you aren't, well, shame on you.

I bought CCE Basic since this is what JDobbs is developing with. Had everyone done this, it would have saved him a lot of headaches Ill bet.

WndrBr3d

8th April 2004, 04:45

Originally posted by KungFuCow
If youre using the trial version in it's true form, there will be a watermark on your encoding project, if you aren't, well, shame on you.

I bought CCE Basic since this is what JDobbs is developing with. Had everyone done this, it would have saved him a lot of headaches Ill bet.

oooh yeah, watermark. *cough* uhmm... i dont mind it much. *cough*

:rolleyes:

cyb0rg

8th April 2004, 12:39

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:
runtime error '9':
Subscript out of range.
Movie: Pulp Fiction PAL

Right after pressing the prepare button, RB stops and give me the runtime error 9.

8th April 2004, 13:37

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.7b)
4. Bug encountered:

Movie (The Eye, PAL R2) stops showing subtitles after chapter 10 (about an hour into the movie). Rewinding to previous chapter, enables the subtitles again. Before rewinding, I tried changing subtitles, but to no effect. It was as if it needed to "resync".

This occurs on both my Pioneer DV343 and my Euroline standalones, as well as in PowerDVD.

The output had been burned with Nero and Nero reported no errors whatsoever.

-tf

djan

8th April 2004, 14:34

Originally posted by Paced
@djan - and others whom are interested

In my experience, Telecide() is a better choice over FieldDeinterlace() - at least for PAL users anyway. FieldDeinterlace (even with 'blend=false') generates unacceptable "artifacts." Check out this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72648

You'll see what I mean after reading through it :cool: Thx for your advice but I decided to no more deinterlace as I intend to only use my DVD's on my standalone. Also, like said Wilbert, deinterlacing is more for Divx and all.

DrVenkman

8th April 2004, 14:51

I was told to post this here and not the other thread so here goes...

A little problem I got is that I tried backing up 'Black Hawk Down' R2 Pal. Now the disc itself is around 6.5 Gigs, with about 6 gigs being just the movie. I ran the 'Prepare' stage and got this;

-----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started - Time: 12:20:21
- VTS_02: 2,878,832 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 207,650/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 41.4%
- Overall Bitrate : 1,889Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION complete - Time: 12:25:34

Surely 1.8kbs is a bit low for a movie like BHD? So I started encoding with CCE and worked out roughly (By the file size it was so far compared to the percentage completed) that I would get about a 3-3.5gb output file. Bear in mind this has no DTS track either, just 5.1 and 3 commentaries.

I tried it with Re-jig and to be honest it came out pretty bad with quite a bit of Pixelation, and this wasn't even on any of the battle scenes.

Any suggestions?

Oldeman

8th April 2004, 16:11

version .31
QuEnc .45
Run time 5 on Vob 3 cellid 1

movie Predator R1
hid extras and menu buttons with DVDReMake

options: one click, minimize, dynamic bit rate, supress warnings

Run Rebuilder with ReJig.. worked fine.
Run Rebuilder with QuEnc.. error 5 on VOB 3 cell ID 1

QuEnc has failed on three dffent movies the same way, It always seems to fail on VOD 3 Cell id 1..???? In two cases, I've ended up with about half of the chapters of the main feature.
It could be QuEnc :confused: ReJig :)

rui

8th April 2004, 17:05

Hi there:

I have been using your software for a few days, and must say that it’s a GREAT program.

I already made movies using CCE, QuEnc and Rejig, all with great success.

But… I am trying to compress some DVD episodes of the 2nd world war, and in all of them I get the Run-time error ‘9’ Subscript out of range.

But this only happens at this DVD episodes. When doing full movies, all goes very well.

I ripped the full DVD episode to the hard disk with DVD Decrypter. I am using DVD-RB 0.31, with CCE trial 2.67.00.23 in conjunction with eclCCE 1.8b, and the latest Rejig and QuEnc.
All was installed following the readme to the letter.

The error appears in the Prepare stage, and happens with CCE, QuEnc and Rejig.

dvdRENEGADE

8th April 2004, 19:50

jdobbs,
Would it possible for DVD-RB to check for button commands within vob sets (button over video) and then to pop up a notice that DVD-RB doesn't support this feature yet as it does with seamless branching, etc.?
dvdRENEGADE

sreemv

8th April 2004, 20:01

Just when I thought I found perfection - it hits me with a video stutter/jumpyness when I played the DVD-R on the standalone player. The same DVD-R (encoded from DVD-RB 0.31) works perfectly on the computer but not on the standalone. But I wonder why!?

So I guess I join all those eager users waiting and hoping to see this fixed.

NanoBot

8th April 2004, 20:22

Hi jdobbs, hi folks

first off all a big thanks to you, jdobbs, your program is great !

Second a hint to all users of CCE 2.50: If you use the task manager to set the priority of DVDRebuilder at "low" before starting the encoding process, all resulting daughter processes, thats EclCCE und CCE itself, will also run at low priority. That will allow you to do something else with your pc when CCE is running.

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered:

I just did Matrix Revolutions PAL RC2 ( german version ) und the following bug occured:

DVDRebuilder worked through all steps normally, but Nero 5.5.10.35 complained that it cannot reallocate the files because the size of one of the files is not a multiple of 2048 byte.

After that I loaded the resulting files into IfoEdit 0.96 and by using "correct VTS_Sectors" IfoEdit reports that the start block of the second VTS had to be corrected from 0 to 7.

Nevertheless, even after correcting this Nero again gave the error message that it cannot reallocate the files.

I ignored that error message and the burned result works 100% in my CH402 DVD player.

I checked the size of the resulting files, and all but one had a size which is a multiple of 2048 bytes. But both the original VTS_02_0.VOB and the resulting VTS_02_0.VOB had a size of 0 bytes. Could that be the reason why Nero and Ifoedit are complaining ?

BTW.: Maybe somebody else asked before, but are there any chances that future releases of DVDRebuilder will be able also to compress the menu videos ? For example, on this DVD the VTS_01_0.VOB is 445MB, so compressing the menus could save some bitrate for the main movie.

C.U. NanoBot

nwg

8th April 2004, 21:03

I checked the size of the resulting files, and all but one had a size which is a multiple of 2048 bytes. But both the original VTS_02_0.VOB and the resulting VTS_02_0.VOB had a size of 0 bytes. Could that be the reason why Nero and Ifoedit are complaining ?

I have got the same thing with my Matrix Revolutions (UK). I got round it by deleting 2_0.VOB. Nero complained it was no referenced. Nero then burned it sucessfully and it plays fine.

I thought DVD-RB had mucked it up but it was like that on the source DVD.

micro9mm

8th April 2004, 21:46

Note: sory if this was covered already in the other thread...I read all the posts in this thread but didnt see anything.

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE sp 2.50.01.00
3. Using eclCCE? Yes
4. Bug encountered:

im tryin to make a backup of jurasic park and every time I try using DVD-RB the output is WAY to big. 8.91 gigs actualy, even though the original is only 7.47 gigs. I tryed both the "one click" and "three click" methods. I also tryed checking the "resize to half D1" option, but its still 8.91 gigs. Any help would be great! thanks.

Msc_Alex

8th April 2004, 23:20

@rui

have you tried this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=469288&highlight=master+bottom#post469288)

worked for me
:D

VampHuntD

9th April 2004, 01:47

Hey Jdobbs, got an issue using these

DVD-RB .31
CCE 2.67.03
ECL 1.7b

After I burn the burn to disc, I experiance some small stutters after a new chapter starts on the disc. It always happens a litle after the chapter starts. It seems this only happens on my xbox however. This was the same issue I had in .26 The Xbox has never stuttered on a backup other than a dvd-rb backup.

And as for the suggestion I made earlier, wouldn't it be possible for DVD-RB to use the same Bitrate calc that apps like RA and DIF4U use? I think having that ability (To select bitrates and have them calculted) would make this app absolutly unstoppable, not that it isn't already! Thanks for all your work!

Joergen

9th April 2004, 02:07

Now there's a common denominator! If jdobbs can find an xbox to test with and replicate the stutter, he can finally see it in action.

SAPSTAR

9th April 2004, 04:54

Here is a bug report encountered on PITCH BLACK :

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.66 Trial
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: During the Rebuild phase, I have the following message "DVD rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort", I check the m2v where it ended it's not a still frame movie. It's the movie generated for the VOBID:01, CELLID:16.

I'll try to regenerate the movie file with another encoder and rerun the merge part.

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 05:40

Originally posted by NanoBot
Hi jdobbs, hi folks

first off all a big thanks to you, jdobbs, your program is great !

Second a hint to all users of CCE 2.50: If you use the task manager to set the priority of DVDRebuilder at "low" before starting the encoding process, all resulting daughter processes, thats EclCCE und CCE itself, will also run at low priority. That will allow you to do something else with your pc when CCE is running.

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered:

I just did Matrix Revolutions PAL RC2 ( german version ) und the following bug occured:

DVDRebuilder worked through all steps normally, but Nero 5.5.10.35 complained that it cannot reallocate the files because the size of one of the files is not a multiple of 2048 byte.

After that I loaded the resulting files into IfoEdit 0.96 and by using "correct VTS_Sectors" IfoEdit reports that the start block of the second VTS had to be corrected from 0 to 7.

Nevertheless, even after correcting this Nero again gave the error message that it cannot reallocate the files.

I ignored that error message and the burned result works 100% in my CH402 DVD player.

I checked the size of the resulting files, and all but one had a size which is a multiple of 2048 bytes. But both the original VTS_02_0.VOB and the resulting VTS_02_0.VOB had a size of 0 bytes. Could that be the reason why Nero and Ifoedit are complaining ?

BTW.: Maybe somebody else asked before, but are there any chances that future releases of DVDRebuilder will be able also to compress the menu videos ? For example, on this DVD the VTS_01_0.VOB is 445MB, so compressing the menus could save some bitrate for the main movie.

C.U. NanoBot After I get the BOV portions working it should be fairly easy to compress menus as well. I wasn't planning to do this -- but it appears to be a popular request. I personally like to keep menus intact... but I bow to the will of the masses.

SAPSTAR

9th April 2004, 07:50

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
Here is a bug report encountered on PITCH BLACK :

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.66 Trial
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: During the Rebuild phase, I have the following message "DVD rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort", I check the m2v where it ended it's not a still frame movie. It's the movie generated for the VOBID:01, CELLID:16.

I'll try to regenerate the movie file with another encoder and rerun the merge part.

It worked !!! I reencoded the movie from VOBID:01, CELLID:16 with TMPGEnc, applying the pulldown directly with it...and it worked the error in DVD-R appeared the next movie cell....

@jdobbs : My conclusion of this experiment is => the buffer overflow Error #0003 is an error coming from the pulldown part in the merge operation.....

HarryM

9th April 2004, 07:59

Where can I set the size of finalize reencoded DVD? I get still a relatively big undersize (cca 50-60 MB!).

Tironic

9th April 2004, 10:34

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: ReJig
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Bug encountered: Major stuttering in WiNDVD Platinum with Underworld R1.
It's kind of strange. Only the second 'half' of the dvd stutters if you seek with the timeshifter. The video can't keep up with the audio.
The dvd pays fine in Media Player Classic 6.4.7.8.
I haven't played it on a standalone dvd-player, cause i don't want to wast any dvds

I'm still convinced that the stuutering might have some thing to do with layer breaks and with the demuxing proces of the vobs to mpv/m2v in the prepare-fase (but i might be horribly wrong).

The rebuilding is mighty fine.
I used vobedit the demux the original vobs to ac3/m2v/sup. I replaced the original sups with dutch sups i made with srt2sup. I then authored with ifoedit to vobs.
I replaced the original vobs with the newly authored vobs. These vobs were then the template for ONLY the rebuild fase.
After rebuilding i got a perfect DVDr copy with dutch subs. :D
So i think it won't be hard to implement sup-replacement support.

I hope this helps you all a bit. Keep up the good work jdobbs. I really appreciate what you're doing.

Tironic

walkistalki

9th April 2004, 10:58

@HarryM

50 MB, isn't that only 1%?

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 11:48

Originally posted by HarryM
Where can I set the size of finalize reencoded DVD? I get still a relatively big undersize (cca 50-60 MB!). You can set the target size with "TargetSectors=" in the REBUILDER.INI file. Or you can enter it for individual encoders with "CCETargetSectors=", "ReJigTargetSectors=", and "QuEncTargetSectors=" the value represents the number of 2KB sectors to aim for and can be set up to 2297888. Be careful, though because encoding isn't 100% accurate and you can oversize easily.

But if you are within 50-60MB you are within 1.3% of the maximum size for the disc.

rui

9th April 2004, 11:59

Originally posted by Msc_Alex
@rui

have you tried this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=469288&highlight=master+bottom#post469288)

worked for me
:D

IT WORKED.:) Many thanks. I still need to test if the movie will come out ok, but it didn't show the error anymore.

Thanks again :)

P.S. I didn't used my brain (at least for searching the solution), like you so wisely have in your sig :D

EDIT1:But... What are we doing by changing that code? It seems that this problem appears in interlaced sources (that's what Top or Bottom Field means, right?) Are we changing the code so it seems as a non interlaced source?

I wonder what the video will look like..

But, again, thanks for your tip :)

EDIT2: Hum.. crashed again. So i went to look were it crashed (VTS_03), opened it with VobEdit and found out that it has LOTS (and i mean LOTS) of GOP I, with that code :(

I think i will wait until jdobbs fixs this one.

Msc_Alex

9th April 2004, 13:29

@rui
I wise I knew why , we chanced the fist header of the fist Group Of Pictures to be tagged as
Frame Pictures where it was Interlaced. But this problem only happens when the source is
Interlaced and bottom field first, I had the ConvertToYUY2(Interlaced=true) (dvdRB V0.27) set and everything went ok came out pretty good to. It looks like the dvd2avi part of DVD-RB has a problem
with tag (IBFF)

ps I only edited the fist IGop of every VTS, so you only need to set the first IGop in your VTS_0*

good luck

joaoccc

9th April 2004, 14:16

Hello

Run time error 9
Subscript out of sync.

I'm trying to use Rebuilder in Tears of the Sun, but it always give me the runtime error 9 when is trying to scanning and writing the d2v.

Regards

SAPSTAR

9th April 2004, 15:21

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
It worked !!! I reencoded the movie from VOBID:01, CELLID:16 with TMPGEnc, applying the pulldown directly with it...and it worked the error in DVD-R appeared the next movie cell....

@jdobbs : My conclusion of this experiment is => the buffer overflow Error #0003 is an error coming from the pulldown part in the merge operation.....

I'm wrong...I tried again with the next movie cell and the error was still there.....

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 15:55

rui

9th April 2004, 16:21

Originally posted by Msc_Alex
@rui
I wise I knew why , we chanced the fist header of the fist Group Of Pictures to be tagged as
Frame Pictures where it was Interlaced. But this problem only happens when the source is
Interlaced and bottom field first, I had the ConvertToYUY2(Interlaced=true) (dvdRB V0.27) set and everything went ok came out pretty good to. It looks like the dvd2avi part of DVD-RB has a problem
with tag (IBFF)

ps I only edited the fist IGop of every VTS, so you only need to set the first IGop in your VTS_0*

good luck

Humm. So, that option is no longer available, right? At leats, i can't find it. One could edit the AVS scripts, but would take too long, they are to many.

Could that option be enabled again?

By the way, my crash was in VTS_03, and i changed the value in the 1st GOP, but it still crashed. That's why i went to look fore more GOP's and found many. Just by changing the first one wouldn't be enough, at least in my case.

EDIT: Forget about it, i was missing some GOP's in some VTS that seemed not have any. Sorry about that :o

NanoBot

9th April 2004, 16:28

Hi jdobbs,

Originally posted by jdobbs
After I get the BOV portions working it should be fairly easy to compress menus as well. I wasn't planning to do this -- but it appears to be a popular request. I personally like to keep menus intact... but I bow to the will of the masses.

thanks in advance for that, jdobbs.

C.U. NanoBot

DrVenkman

9th April 2004, 16:49

Just to answer my own problem, and something for people who are having trouble with Low bitrates. It seems that the Menu alone for 'Black Hawk Down' was nearly a gig! I ran the disc through DVDShrink and compressed the Menu right down, then when I ran the prepare stage I got an average Bitrate of 2.5, which makes much more of a difference than 1.8kbs believe me.

So I think re-encoding the menu/extras would be a good thing to include on a forthcoming release, not that the program isn't perfect enough as it is!

StifflerStealth

9th April 2004, 16:54

Originally posted by DrVenkman
Just to answer my own problem, and something for people who are having trouble with Low bitrates. It seems that the Menu alone for 'Black Hawk Down' was nearly a gig! I ran the disc through DVDShrink and compressed the Menu right down, then when I ran the prepare stage I got an average Bitrate of 2.5, which makes much more of a difference than 1.8kbs believe me.

So I think re-encoding the menu/extras would be a good thing to include on a forthcoming release, not that the program isn't perfect enough as it is!

For those of you with CCE, why don't you use NuMenu4U. It uses CCE, so the menus will look great. It's also free :D

Stiff

Joergen

9th April 2004, 18:14

There sure are alot of tools out there! Never heard of numenu4u but I'll give it a try.

The only prob with using several tools is that you dont know if they all work or not.. so you end up with several multipliers for creating a coaster.

EDIT; BatchCCEWS doesnt support neither of the CCE versions I have installed so nice tool but no go :(

nwg

9th April 2004, 18:38

Texas Chainsaw Massacre

031
CCE 2.50
eclCCE 1.8

I got dvd compliance failed when trying to burn in Nero. I ended up deleting the BUP's and copying the IFO's to new BUP's.

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 18:41

Originally posted by nwg
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

031
CCE 2.50
eclCCE 1.8

I got dvd compliance failed when trying to burn in Nero. I ended up deleting the BUP's and copying the IFO's to new BUP's. Did you preprocess with some other package? I've gone over this several times and I can't find a way that this could be caused by DVD-RB.

nwg

9th April 2004, 18:46

Did you preprocess with some other package? I've gone over this several times and I can't find a way that this could be caused by DVD-RB.

No.

I just decrypted with DVD Decrypter in file mode (all files).

It is the first time I have had this for a while and the other DVD's I have done went through DVD-RB just fine.

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 18:50

Originally posted by nwg
No.

I just decrypted with DVD Decrypter in file mode (all files).

It is the first time I have had this for a while and the other DVD's I have done went through DVD-RB just fine. Have you tried comparing the IFO/BUP files before DVD-RB runs against them? You never know sometimes...

nwg

9th April 2004, 19:00

Have you tried comparing the IFO/BUP files before DVD-RB runs against them? You never know sometimes...

Good idea, I never thought of that.

I put the files through Nero and tried to record a NRG image. I got the same compliance error.

So that means the original is like that?

VampHuntD

9th April 2004, 20:20

Nero sucks at burning dvd, I used to have coasters with it all the time on things that workinf in other burners. Use something else.

Msc_Alex

9th April 2004, 20:34

Jdobbs

I made a super mini dvd of 1 MB which will cause the runtime 9 error.

Almost spend a hour to figure out why I got a Runtime 11 “division by zero”
error every time I tried to run it with Rebuilder, finally figured it out.
55 MB, if the size of the dvd was smaller then 55 MB I would get the Runtime 11 error
if bigger then it would give the runtime 9 error.

The trick with this Super Mini DVD is to just add any (real) VOB file to this 1MB dir to make the total size larger then 55 MB. And then you will get the runtime 9 error. I would like to send this SMDVD to you, please just send a PM were to send it to.

Feels like brain surgery on the enigma machine :p

nwg

9th April 2004, 20:59

Nero sucks at burning dvd, I used to have coasters with it all the time on things that workinf in other burners. Use something else.

I never had any problems with Nero for the many years I have used it. I have had not one coaster (CD or DVD).

Anyway, I also use copytodvd and DVD Decrypter.

Joergen

9th April 2004, 21:46

Ok I tried numenu4u with robshot 3pass on an indyjones 500MB menu (it didnt see the italian menus out of the english so language selecting was useless) and the process was extremely slow and created a pixelated ugly menu as a result. But as I said before, menus often cant be compressed too much, and partial stripping is a better option.

By using menuedit or dvd2avi to pick the italian cells to remove I can get 200MB menu with no compression in 5 minutes.

jdobbs: In DVD-RB's case it would be preferrable (in the future) that it NEVER would compress menus unless specifically requested.. or could somehow analyse the menu items to see if they can take a decent amount of compressing. It would be quite a disappointment if 15 hours later you get a great looking movie but a terrible menu :)

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 21:55

Originally posted by nwg
Good idea, I never thought of that.

I put the files through Nero and tried to record a NRG image. I got the same compliance error.

So that means the original is like that? Probably. I've seen some pretty strange things on commercial DVDs.

jdobbs

9th April 2004, 21:57

Originally posted by Joergen
Ok I tried numenu4u with robshot 3pass on an indyjones 500MB menu (it didnt see the italian menus out of the english so language selecting was useless) and the process was extremely slow and created a pixelated ugly menu as a result. But as I said before, menus often cant be compressed too much, and partial stripping is a better option.

By using menuedit or dvd2avi to pick the italian cells to remove I can get 200MB menu with no compression in 5 minutes.

jdobbs: In DVD-RB's case it would be preferrable (in the future) that it NEVER would compress menus unless specifically requested.. or could somehow analyse the menu items to see if they can take a decent amount of compressing. It would be quite a disappointment if 15 hours later you get a great looking movie but a terrible menu :) I couldn't agree more. I hate putting in a DVD only to be confronted with a block pixelated selection list...

YaoMing11

9th April 2004, 22:11

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

I got this error during the rebuilding phase of a CCE project.:(

Also I've had this problem with 2 movies already. I choose the audio to keep in DVD-RB, and use Rejig. When it is finished I test the movie out in Power DVD, and it doesnt have audio. It says audio not available.

quantum

9th April 2004, 22:52

Originally posted by jdobbs
I couldn't agree more. I hate putting in a DVD only to be confronted with a block pixelated selection list... Sometimes trailers or other extras are put in with the menu's. It's nice to be able to reduce these assuming you still want them. Also some menus have videos which make them very large. The Soprano's disks come to mind. With these packed episode disks you might have to encode at 2200 to retain the full menu's which can be 700megs. Crunching the menu's in half can get you up closer to the point where blocks disappear in your main title.

Agreed that for most disks this type of thing is not necessary.

Axlemar

10th April 2004, 00:01

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

In my personal experiences errors like 000x are sometimes caused if you try to use the newest beta of avisynth instead of 2.54. If you get a similiar message try switching version of avisynth.

m3taPT

10th April 2004, 01:11

Originally posted by Axlemar
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

In my personal experiences errors like 000x are sometimes caused if you try to use the newest beta of avisynth instead of 2.54. If you get a similiar message try switching version of avisynth.

Not really. 3 backups tested, this error popped on 2 of them. Dvd-rb .31+(CCE/QuEnc)+Avisynth 2.54.

YaoMing11

10th April 2004, 04:49

Has anybody had trouble with the audio using Rejig with DVD-RB? 2 times already I tested the movie on my pc and it didnt have an audio source in Power DVD. I didnt test it in the player cause i dont want to waste a DVD.

YaoMing11

10th April 2004, 09:48

Originally posted by Axlemar
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

In my personal experiences errors like 000x are sometimes caused if you try to use the newest beta of avisynth instead of 2.54. If you get a similiar message try switching version of avisynth.

I reinstalled avisynth 2.54 and Im still etting this error. I made a successful backup 2 days ago with Panic Room and rejig. Im trying Scent of a Woman and keep getting this same error always halfway through the rebuilding phase. :confused:

SAPSTAR

10th April 2004, 16:12

Originally posted by Axlemar
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

In my personal experiences errors like 000x are sometimes caused if you try to use the newest beta of avisynth instead of 2.54. If you get a similiar message try switching version of avisynth.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Avisynth is NOT used during the Rebuild part...but only during the encoding part...so it can't be Avisynth !!!!

CiViC

10th April 2004, 17:20

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
Correct me if I'm wrong but Avisynth is NOT used during the Rebuild part...but only during the encoding part...so it can't be Avisynth !!!!

Actually I had the same error, and I found it was because decomb.dll in the avisynth\plugins folder got corrupt during a previous "random reboot" .. what happened as a result was my deinterlaced m2v's weren't getting deinterlaced, they only had an avisynth error message imbedded in them; after putting a good version of decomb.dll in that folder, i reprocessed the dvd and voila, that problem was squashed.

YaoMing11

10th April 2004, 21:28

I put a fresh copy of decomb.dll in the plugins folder. Im still getting the error.

Now its "DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. stop statement encountered."

I was getting a error #0004 now it changed to #0003.

Oldeman

11th April 2004, 03:39

DVD-RB .33
Rejig
Options:
Supress warning
One click
Dynamic bit rate

Movie: Tora Tora Tora NTSC R1
Hid extras with DvdReMake.
Removed 2-channel audio tracks with DVD-RB

Run time 9 during rebuild-> Seg 24 Vob 17 Cellid 1
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:17, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07.D2V")
trim(117237,125540)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Do I need AVS options with ReJig???

I have done other movies with DVD-RB sucessfully.

System AMD 750, 256Mb, Win98SE

Joergen

11th April 2004, 03:47

Oldeman: could you try without touching anything in the original? It would be most interesting to see if the error is cause of the butchering.

jdobbs

11th April 2004, 03:59

Originally posted by Oldeman
DVD-RB .33
Rejig
Options:
Supress warning
One click
Dynamic bit rate

Movie: Tora Tora Tora NTSC R1
Hid extras with DvdReMake.
Removed 2-channel audio tracks with DVD-RB

Run time 9 during rebuild-> Seg 24 Vob 17 Cellid 1
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:17, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07.D2V")
trim(117237,125540)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Do I need AVS options with ReJig???

I have done other movies with DVD-RB sucessfully.

System AMD 750, 256Mb, Win98SE I wish I could make these damn Runtime '9' errors go away. I think I may have "Tora Tora Tora" -- I'll run downstairs and check... isn't it pitiful when you buy so many DVDs that you can't even remember which ones you own?

Joergen

11th April 2004, 04:03

If it were up to the MPAA, they'd include De-Neuralizer(tm) protection that zaps you when the movie ends so you dont remember anything of it, and as you leave the theater a guy hands out fliers for the same movie and you go "hey I'd like to see this one!".

wmansir

11th April 2004, 04:04

Originally posted by jdobbs
isn't it pitiful when you buy so many DVDs that you can't even remember which ones you own?

Yes, but it's fun when you find one you forgot you bought. It's like a present you give yourself. :) I hope that's what Alzheimer's is like.

chadp1a

11th April 2004, 05:05

DVDRB .33
EclCCE 1.7
CCE 2.67

Matrix 3

All three phases completed with no errors. I attempted to burn with Nero and got reallocation failed error. I then ran the files through IfoEdit get vts sectors and it made corrections. Tried again to burn with Nero but still got the reallocation error.

Next I ran the dvdrb output thru DvdShrink with no compression set. I ran Ifoedit on the resulting output from DvdShrink and it corrected a couple of sectors. I tried Nero again and did not receive the reallocation error. The burn went fine and the movie seems to play perfect.

@jdobbs

I have the ifo's from the dvdrb/ifoedit output and the dvdrb/dvdshrink/ifoedit output in case you want to look at them.

Joergen

11th April 2004, 05:09

chadp1a: didnt matrix revolutions have a 0Byte VOB in it? All that trickery you did just removed that .vob thats all.

KungFuCow

11th April 2004, 05:11

Kind of uneventful.. just finished Alias Season 1 (Disk 2) and it rebuilt no problems. Looks good in PowerDVD, all navigation, etc seems to be working fine. Doing Disc 3 now then Ill test in my standalones.

Great job JDobbs :)

Axlemar

11th April 2004, 05:12

With the new version DVDRB .33 does anyone have problems selecting the paths to things like quenc and MPEG2Dec3dg.dll under setup? The first time I selected either path the program froze, and when I went back into it the path that it froze on was filled in with what I selected. I can still get it the run but this is the first time it has froze when making selections in setup. Thanks for your hard work everyone!

chadp1a

11th April 2004, 05:13

Originally posted by Joergen
chadp1a: didnt matrix revolutions have a 0Byte VOB in it? All that trickery you did just removed that .vob thats all.

So should I have just removed the 0byte VOB that dvdrb created too, or would I have been ok just to ignore the reallocation error? I'm a little lost now:confused:

Joergen

11th April 2004, 05:16

I think you can just delete the 0byte file in nero in the VIDEO_TS (inside nero itself in the dvd video template) dir, and apparently DVDShrink also removes such files when you run stuff through it.

dvd-rb copies small files over as-is and so copies a 0byte file too (perhaps something for jdobbs could fix if it doesnt hurt the allocation).

jdobbs

11th April 2004, 05:19

Originally posted by Joergen
I think you can just delete the 0byte file in nero in the VIDEO_TS dir, and apparently DVDShrink also removes such files when you run stuff through it. Do you think I should dump any 0byte files also? I hesitate to do it -- but can't for the life of me figure why it would make a difference...

Joergen

11th April 2004, 05:21

Originally posted by jdobbs
Do you think I should dump any 0byte files also? I hesitate to do it -- but can't for the life of me figure why it would make a difference...

I'm no expert but I deleted it in the nero template and it didnt hurt me on two diff players. Allocation might go beyond the file size, as the file table still has bytes reserved for the file even though it's 0 bytes.

jdobbs

11th April 2004, 05:24

Originally posted by Joergen
I'm no expert but I deleted it in the nero template and it didnt hurt me on two diff players. Allocation might go beyond the file size, as the file table still has bytes reserved for the file even though it's 0 bytes. Yeah, but it doesn't figure in any of the offset calculations that are in the IFOs... I don't think it makes any difference, the question is: Why are they there on the original? Authoring requirements?

Joergen

11th April 2004, 05:27

More likely an authoring error. I think it was the video_ts.vob on the R2 version and there's no need for it is there in the standard?

Well 0 isnt a multiple of (insertrequirementhere) so its breaking the standard in itself.

quantum

11th April 2004, 06:12

Originally posted by jdobbs
I wish I could make these damn Runtime '9' errors go away. I think I may have "Tora Tora Tora" -- I'll run downstairs and check... isn't it pitiful when you buy so many DVDs that you can't even remember which ones you own? FYI, I did Tora Tora Tora a week or two ago (with an earlier dvdrb version obviously) and had no errors. In fact I haven't had a runtime 9 error yet but I haven't done that many disks.

Oldeman

11th April 2004, 06:22

DVD-RB .33
Rejig
etc etc etc

no extras removed..
removed 2 channel audio with DVD-RB unchecking...

still get run time 9 (subscript range) Seq 24 Vob 17 Cellid 1
during rebuild.
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:17, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07.D2V")
trim(117237,125540)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

DSP8000

11th April 2004, 09:29

First of all thaks for the tool jdobbs.I've been using DVD2DVD-R for all my movies that require heavy compression,but not re-encoding them with CCE but MainConcept Encoder 1.4.2 & Canopus ProCoder Express.Your tool made me to download the demo version of CCE.
Now the question:
Is it just me or everyone has to edit the ecl file created from DVD-RB.Even if I set it to 3 VBR passes the ecl says 2.I'm using DVD-RB v0.33 on movie Titanic.I believe the DVD-RB sets the correct bitrate in the ecl file so the movie can fit on DVD-R no undersizing, right?
Also I'm using EclCCE v1.8 as suggested in the read me file.
Please can you support MainConcept Encoder & Canopus ProCoder in your tool?

THX. again
Keep up the good work
DSP8000

nwg

11th April 2004, 09:43

I deleted the 0 bytes files and it worked fine in Nero. The Nero error is that the 2_0.VOB is not referenced in the ifo's.

It does seem to be bad authoring for a commercial DVD.

DSP8000 wrote,
Is it just me or everyone has to edit the ecl file created from DVD-RB.Even if I set it to 3 VBR passes the ecl says 2.I'm using DVD-RB v0.33 on movie Titanic.

This has been covered many times. DVD-RB uses the VAF encode as the first pass.

philos31

11th April 2004, 12:00

Is it normal for 0.33 to take 20 - 25% processor time?

I am doing a 4:3 -> 16:9 Conversion.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~krasteva/rbtm.jpg

jdobbs

11th April 2004, 12:07

Originally posted by philos31
Is it normal for 0.33 to take 20 - 25% processor time?

I am doing a 4:3 -> 16:9 Conversion. No. On my system when running CCE, DVD-RB uses 1-2% of the processor. My guess would be that CCE is set to run at a lower priority. I don't think I've looked at it specifically while doing a 16:9 conversion, though -- but any processing associated with that really should show as part of the CCE conversion.

jurij

11th April 2004, 13:45

I Used dvd rebuilder 0.33
1. DVD-R Version: Pal
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. The DVD has 5 audio channels:
-English
-German
-French
-Spanish
-Italian
I chosed to keep only English and Italian audios
After encoding everything the result was a DVD with only English and Spanish Audio.
If i select Italian audio on dvd playback i hear nothing.
Can you do anything? Thanx for the nice job anyway
5. -----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 10.32.12
- VTS_02: 3.483.252 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 169.451 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 62.413 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 3.525 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 63,3%
- Overall Bitrate : 4.416Kbs
- HIGH/LOW Cell Bitrates: 0/9.999 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 3 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 10.36.03
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Phase III, REBUILD started at 13.09.19
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_02
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- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
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- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
Phase III, REBUILD completed in 10 minutes.

Done.

jurij

11th April 2004, 14:31

i decided to rebuild the dvd a second time:
i have selected spanish audio instead of Italian and the output was a dvd with english and italian.
i managed to solve the problem this time, but what if the next movie won't have spanish audio LOL?

nwg

11th April 2004, 14:38

DVD-RB 0.33
eclCCE 1.8
CCE 2.50

I still have a stutter on Matrix Revolutions PAL. It is the beginning of the Trainman scene at chapter 4.

BTW, the original also sufferes on that scene. It doesn't stutter but chapter 3 and 4 looks badly edited together.

wmansir: sorry hit the wrong button, nothing changed

wmansir

11th April 2004, 15:18

1. DVD-R Version: 0.33
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: When using Half-D1 on SOME VTS sets, ALL cells in the Rebuilder.ecl get a Half-D1 setting (width=352). The .avs files are setup correctly, but this causes a data read error in CCE and an encoding failure.

Exact error message from CCE 2.5, in case others encounter it:

cce encoding failured: AVIStreamRead() failed() (0x80044074) Buffer is too small.

And then, this second one is due to the first part create a corrupt .vaf file:

vinfo_open() failed: Bad Data <C:\mypath\V01000000001001.vaf>

EDIT: added error messages

kadilak

11th April 2004, 17:22

A lot of my DVDs seem to be coming out under size. I am using CCE 2.66, with ELCCE. I just did Once Upon A Time In Mexico and it came out to 4.32 GB. Isn't the capacity for DVD-+R 4.38 GB? DVD-R is slightly larger than +R, isn't it? I know that much space is negligible, but I'd still like it to max out the disc.

I know there is an option to specify size, but I'm not sure how to convert GB to sectors. Any help would be appreciated.

nwg

11th April 2004, 17:26

A lot of my DVDs seem to be coming out under size. I am using CCE 2.66, with ELCCE. I just did Once Upon A Time In Mexico and it came out to 4.32 GB

That is normal and to be expected. My ones are between 4.31 and 4.32GB. The max size is 4.36GB and is only 50MB more. That won't make any difference regarding video quality. It is better in the long run as the data won't be going to the edge. This can cause problems with some players/discs. I usually do 4.34GB.

Joergen

11th April 2004, 17:47

Yeah that doesnt count for undersizing in my book.. and I'd rather be a few MB short than long (which is the other option)

jdobbs

11th April 2004, 17:55

Originally posted by wmansir
1. DVD-R Version: 0.33
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: When using Half-D1 on SOME VTS sets, ALL cells in the Rebuilder.ecl get a Half-D1 setting (width=352). The .avs files are setup correctly, but this causes a data read error in CCE and an encoding failure.

Exact error message from CCE 2.5, in case others encounter it:

cce encoding failured: AVIStreamRead() failed() (0x80044074) Buffer is too small.

And then, this second one is due to the first part create a corrupt .vaf file:

vinfo_open() failed: Bad Data <C:\mypath\V01000000001001.vaf>

EDIT: added error messages Hmmm... I guess there's no way I could make that sound like a feature instead of a bug?

Oldeman

11th April 2004, 17:58

DVD-RB .34
Rejig .5e
loop in calling ReJig on second entry VTS 05 seg 1

Status]
mode=0
Progress=1
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=2

[V05000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=16642.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=5324
Last_Sector=87956
Reduction=56.7
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0

[V05000100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=45045.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=87960
Reduction=56.7
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0

[V06000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=16918.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=4050
Last_Sector=50633
Reduction=56.7
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0

jdobbs

11th April 2004, 17:58

Originally posted by kadilak
A lot of my DVDs seem to be coming out under size. I am using CCE 2.66, with ELCCE. I just did Once Upon A Time In Mexico and it came out to 4.32 GB. Isn't the capacity for DVD-+R 4.38 GB? DVD-R is slightly larger than +R, isn't it? I know that much space is negligible, but I'd still like it to max out the disc.

I know there is an option to specify size, but I'm not sure how to convert GB to sectors. Any help would be appreciated. I'd rather keep the default where it is, but look in the README file and you'll see there is a parameter you can put in your REBUILDER.INI file that will change the target output size.

ADDED: If you want to see how many sectors your blank has available. Put it in a drive and open up DVD-DECRYPTER in ISO/Write mode. It should tell you "Free sectors" -- be careful, though -- it's easy to go over.