DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[wmansir]

I'll continue this discussion in that thread. (with new screenshots!)

EDIT: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74333

since it's a new page, I put a link.

[DDogg]

V 0.40 - Well I knew I should not have said my Alcohol ISOs worked fine. Just got the "Run-time '75':Path/file access error" on rebuild using rejig.

/ADD: definitely something to do with dvd-rb and a mounted ISO. I used winrar to extract the ISO to a directory and changed the source path in DVD-RB to it. Rebuilding is proceeding well now.

/Add: Nah, didn't work. "buffer overflow 0003"

I've verified no other DVD software I have has any problem with this mounted ISO except dvd-rb.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by DDogg

/ADD: definitely something to do with dvd-rb and a mounted ISO. I used winrar to extract the ISO to a directory and changed the source path in DVD-RB to it. Rebuilding is proceeding well now.


Be careful while extracting isos with winrar!. I used it in the past to extract iso images and sometimes files get corrupted!
Bye

[idbirch2]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.40
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.00.23
3. Using eclCCE? Y - 1.8b
4. Bug encountered:

Backing up PAL (UK) version of Tomb Raider 2 - encoding went fine - lasted more than 400 mins but then got "DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort." followed by "Stop statement encountered". The same thing happened with 0.39.

This occurred at 96.1% of rebuilding. The top progress bar had just reached 100% for "Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID:1 CELLID:7".

If I look in the VIDEO_TS folder there's only the last VOB file missing - VTS_12_1.VOB so I assume this is causing the problem. Heres the main part of the VTS_12_0.IFO file:

PGC_1 (program chain) : [Title(TTN0 : 1] [00:03:35:00 / 25fps] (Programs:2) (Cells:2) (uses VOB-IDs:1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/1] :time: 00:03:34:14 / 25fps [Pos 00:03:34:14] [Frames:5364]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/2] :time: 00:00:00:11 / 25fps [Pos 00:03:35:00] [Frames:5375]

I don't know if this is the bit of the IFO you need so if not, let me know and I'll post the bit you need. Thanks for all your hard work so far jdobbs - this is the app the community has been waiting for.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DDogg
V 0.40 - Well I knew I should not have said my Alcohol ISOs worked fine. Just got the "Run-time '75':Path/file access error" on rebuild using rejig. I was getting this with daemon tools mounted ISO's (but lately I'm ripping in file mode so no errors).

@jdobbs: while you know you're not trying to write anything to the source directory, it sounds like you might have an open command that is wanting a write lock even though you use it for reading. There are a lot of options for that command. I'm pretty sure this doesn't happen every time so it must be code outside the usual loops.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by idbirch2
1. DVD-R Version: 0.40
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.00.23
3. Using eclCCE? Y - 1.8b
4. Bug encountered:

Backing up PAL (UK) version of Tomb Raider 2 - encoding went fine - lasted more than 400 mins but then got "DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort." followed by "Stop statement encountered". The same thing happened with 0.39.

This occurred at 96.1% of rebuilding. The top progress bar had just reached 100% for "Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID:1 CELLID:7".

If I look in the VIDEO_TS folder there's only the last VOB file missing - VTS_12_1.VOB so I assume this is causing the problem. Heres the main part of the VTS_12_0.IFO file:

PGC_1 (program chain) : [Title(TTN0 : 1] [00:03:35:00 / 25fps] (Programs:2) (Cells:2) (uses VOB-IDs:1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/1] :time: 00:03:34:14 / 25fps [Pos 00:03:34:14] [Frames:5364]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/2] :time: 00:00:00:11 / 25fps [Pos 00:03:35:00] [Frames:5375]

I don't know if this is the bit of the IFO you need so if not, let me know and I'll post the bit you need. Thanks for all your hard work so far jdobbs - this is the app the community has been waiting for. That couldn't be the right VTS -- it only has two cells: V/C 1/1 & 2 -- the error occurred on V/C 1/7.

You should be able to tell which VTS caused the problem by looking at the name in upper "Progress" bar. The first 3 letters of the name("Vnn") represent the VTS.

I found a bug that I've fixed for 0.41 related to this. It would be interesting to know if the offending VTS starts off with an SCR that is non-zero. Are you familiar with VOBEDIT?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
I was getting this with daemon tools mounted ISO's (but lately I'm ripping in file mode so no errors).

@jdobbs: while you know you're not trying to write anything to the source directory, it sounds like you might have an open command that is wanting a write lock even though you use it for reading. There are a lot of options for that command. I'm pretty sure this doesn't happen every time so it must be code outside the usual loops. I'll check. But I kinda' feel like I'm debugging someone else's software. If this were truly my code I tend to believe it would always fail.

[idbirch2]

You should be able to tell which VTS caused the problem by looking at the name in upper "Progress" bar. The first 3 letters of the name("Vnn") represent the VTS.

Ah OK sorry. I've deleted the folder now and I've got to go to work in a minute but I'll do it again tomorrow and post back with the 'Vnn' number.

I have used VOBedit before but only to see what it does! If you're after some specific info from it about the problem VTS I'm more than happy to get it for you but you'll need to give me a brief explanation of how to get the info.

[HarryM]

Originally posted by jdobbs
You can set the target size with "TargetSectors=" in the REBUILDER.INI file. Or you can enter it for individual encoders with "CCETargetSectors=", "ReJigTargetSectors=", and "QuEncTargetSectors=" the value represents the number of 2KB sectors to aim for and can be set up to 2297888. Be careful, though because encoding isn't 100% accurate and you can oversize easily.

But if you are within 50-60MB you are within 1.3% of the maximum size for the disc.

Thanks for information!
What is default value of "TargetSectors" (actually used by DVD-RB), please?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by HarryM
Thanks for information!
What is default value of "TargetSectors" (actually used by DVD-RB), please? 2236400 is the default value. Be careful to change it back (or just delete it from the INI) after you've done that disc or you may undersize on future ones.

[DDogg]

Originally posted by jdobbs -
I'll check. But I kinda' feel like I'm debugging someone else's software. If this were truly my code I tend to believe it would always fail.I realize this is a thorny issue and am more than willing to try and help you find what software is causing the problem as I have a replicatable. Honestly, I think it is dvd-rb because no other software seems to have any problems, but I do understand that there is no other software like yours :)

Supporting ISO is very important for several reasons, one is the obvious need to keep the DVD structure intact, but another one is for the technical support of dvd-rb down the road. People can't really mess around with the structure of an ISO created from the original DVD so you will know a standard source was given to dvd-rd. This should allow you to duplicate the scenario when chasing critters.

So my question is how can I help you pinpoint what is causing this issue? I have a replicatable that only errors when a mounted ISO is used as source. Filemode source works OK.

[jdobbs]

Let me see if there might be some circumstance where something strange happens... I just search through my code for every instance that accesses the source directory.

[DDogg]

I think I have a good replicatable. Last night I started fresh with filemode source. It finished ok. This morning I renamed the video_ts dir and changed source to my ISO and restarted the rebuild. Got the same error again. It errors right after:

Phase III, REBUILD started at 09:15:52
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...

Here is what is in the dir:

Volume in drive D is Data
Volume Serial Number is 14B3-B9AB

Directory of D:\WUTemp\VIDEO_TS

04/17/2004 09:18 AM <DIR> .
04/17/2004 09:18 AM <DIR> ..
04/17/2004 09:18 AM 0 dir.txt
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 12,288 VIDEO_TS.BUP
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 12,288 VIDEO_TS.IFO
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 102,400 VTS_01_0.BUP
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 102,400 VTS_01_0.IFO
04/17/2004 09:16 AM 576,479,232 VTS_01_0.VOB
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 18,432 VTS_02_0.BUP
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 18,432 VTS_02_0.IFO
04/17/2004 09:16 AM 0 VTS_02_0.VOB
9 File(s) 576,745,472 bytes
2 Dir(s) 22,388,232,192 bytes free

[Oldeman]

version .40
encoder ReJig
Error 9 in Rebuild at Seg 24 vts 17 cell id 1
dynamic bit rate
run minimized

I have remade several other DVDs sucessfully with DVD-RB.

But Tora Tora Tora always fails at the same place in rebuild. There are a couple of odd PGCs in the main movie multi-angle? or interleaving? I'm not sure what they do...

I think its failing at the INTERMISSION frame
or just before it.
I'm gonna use DvdReMake to reemove the inrtermission and run it again...

[item]
title=V07002400017001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07002400017001.vaf
aud_file=D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07002400017001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=3784
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=1
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=1
alternate_scan=0
intra_dc_prec=2
encode_mode=0
vmode=2
fast_mode=0
quality_prec=37
vid_file0=D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07002400017001.m2v
vid_file1=D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07002400017001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
video_type=4
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=10
vbr_pass=1
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

[file]
name=D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07002400017001.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=8304
encode_first=0
encode_last=8304

[e1miran]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.39
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: Full back-up of LOTR - Fullscreen (R1)Disc 1. The whole process was performed without a hitch. However, the resulting DVD files total 4.56 GB (4,903,780,352 bytes). Nero, of course, says it's too big. I used default settings and Dynamic Cell Bit-rate. One note, I paused/stopped it about 43% into encoding. It seemed to return to where it left off fine.

Is it possible to overburn w/Nero?

[Sir Didymus]

Originally posted by DDogg
I think I have a good replicatable. Last night I started fresh with filemode source. It finished ok. This morning I renamed the video_ts dir and changed source to my ISO and restarted the rebuild. Got the same error again. It errors right after:

Phase III, REBUILD started at 09:15:52
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...

Here is what is in the dir:

Volume in drive D is Data
Volume Serial Number is 14B3-B9AB

Directory of D:\WUTemp\VIDEO_TS

04/17/2004 09:18 AM <DIR> .
04/17/2004 09:18 AM <DIR> ..
04/17/2004 09:18 AM 0 dir.txt
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 12,288 VIDEO_TS.BUP
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 12,288 VIDEO_TS.IFO
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 102,400 VTS_01_0.BUP
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 102,400 VTS_01_0.IFO
04/17/2004 09:16 AM 576,479,232 VTS_01_0.VOB
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 18,432 VTS_02_0.BUP
04/17/2004 09:15 AM 18,432 VTS_02_0.IFO
04/17/2004 09:16 AM 0 VTS_02_0.VOB
9 File(s) 576,745,472 bytes
2 Dir(s) 22,388,232,192 bytes free


Could the trouble be related to the 0 sized files ?
I know it's a different situation, and please, take it as an example, but also Nero Burning complains a lot if you try to compile a DVD session with 0 sized files...

[DDogg]

Like you said, it is a different situation. The dir.txt is where I created a directory listing via CMDline: dir > dir.txt and would never be in a normal directory. The reason the other file is 0 is because rebuilder failed at that point.

[Joergen]

jdobbs: I noticed with 0.41 that if you stop/pause .. close dvd-rb and restart it, hit encode, the audio streams you removed in the original process are again ticked. But I guess that doesnt matter since the process files are not changed.. but it can confuse people. :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
jdobbs: I noticed with 0.41 that if you stop/pause .. close dvd-rb and restart it, hit encode, the audio streams you removed in the original process are again ticked. But I guess that doesnt matter since the process files are not changed.. but it can confuse people. :) Actually it will make a difference -- I'm glad you brought it up. If you resumed and finished the encodes followed by a REBUILD (without re-checking the ones you had originally) you will probably go over size. I'll have to look at that and save the selected audio in the rebuilder.inf file for the project.

Thanks.

[VampHuntD]

Hey Jdobbs!
I have some good news and some bad news, however the bad news is more likely my error now. Perhaps the other xbox user can confirm that. So using These:

DVD-RB .41
CCE 2.67.03
ECL 1.7

The xbox stutter after chapter points has lessened significantly. Before it use to freeze frame and stay for about a minute, now it's pretty much only noticible if I am actually watching the movie. Bad news is, it's still there. Once again I am playing this on an xbox and on the PS2 it works fine as does PC drive. I don't have a "real" player to test these on just yet.

Next question that I hope someone can answer. First part, how essential is the decomb.dll? I noticed that I don't have one set in RB and it doesn't seem like I have that file in avisyth's folder. Next, if it is essential, could that be causing the minor stutter I have going? And lastly, where can I get this file if it is essential (or better) to have and especially if it could be causing the stutter. Thanks Jdobbs for your hard work and the kick ass app!

[wmansir]

Originally posted by VampHuntD
Next question that I hope someone can answer. First part, how essential is the decomb.dll? I noticed that I don't have one set in RB and it doesn't seem like I have that file in avisyth's folder. Next, if it is essential, could that be causing the minor stutter I have going? And lastly, where can I get this file if it is essential (or better) to have and especially if it could be causing the stutter. Thanks Jdobbs for your hard work and the kick ass app!
It is only needed if you activate Deinterlacing in the AVS options menu. This should not be needed unless you plan on watching your backups on a PC or other progressive display (not at TV). If you need it there is a link in the Install, Setup and Usage stickie.

[RB]

Originally posted by RB
DVD-RB Version: v0.38
Encoder: CCE-SP 2.67.00.23
EclCCE: yes
Bug: No subtitles in standalone player
Movie: Donnie Darko R2 PAL

...

The only problem is, the player won't display any subtitles. I can turn them all on (there are 6 total), but they never show up. The funny thing is the subtitles work fine in a software player (WinDVD 5).
Hmm, am I the only one having problems with subs in a standalone? Just trying again with v0.41.

[Fr4nz]

Subs in Matrix Revolutions here worked on standalone players.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by VampHuntD
Hey Jdobbs!
I have some good news and some bad news, however the bad news is more likely my error now. Perhaps the other xbox user can confirm that. So using These:

DVD-RB .41
CCE 2.67.03
ECL 1.7

The xbox stutter after chapter points has lessened significantly. Before it use to freeze frame and stay for about a minute, now it's pretty much only noticible if I am actually watching the movie. Bad news is, it's still there. Once again I am playing this on an xbox and on the PS2 it works fine as does PC drive. I don't have a "real" player to test these on just yet.

Next question that I hope someone can answer. First part, how essential is the decomb.dll? I noticed that I don't have one set in RB and it doesn't seem like I have that file in avisyth's folder. Next, if it is essential, could that be causing the minor stutter I have going? And lastly, where can I get this file if it is essential (or better) to have and especially if it could be causing the stutter. Thanks Jdobbs for your hard work and the kick ass app! Are you NTSC or PAL?

[CeanD]

0.40
CCE 2.67.00.11
ECL 1.8

Movie I'm trying is : Any movie whatsoever, the error always comes up. (Swat currently)

Runtime 9, happens as DVD-RB attempts to rebuild the main movie file.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by CeanD
0.40
CCE 2.67.00.11
ECL 1.8

Movie I'm trying is : Any movie whatsoever, the error always comes up. (Swat currently)

Runtime 9, happens as DVD-RB attempts to rebuild the main movie file. Go to three step mode and do only the PREPARE. Then go into the D2VAVS directory and try to play some of the AVS files with Microsoft Media Player. If you are getting this error on every disc you try, you probably are misconfigured.

[VampHuntD]

Jdobbs, yeah that's kimda important eh? I'm NTSC. Thanks for the clue in as well wmansir, could that possibly be what's going in? I'm testing with the movie My Best Friends Wedding Special Edition. (If anyone has a smaller dvd, let me know, I run this at a 2 pass CCE just to test out so less dvd, faster test.)

[CeanD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Go to three step mode and do only the PREPARE. Then go into the D2VAVS directory and try to play some of the AVS files with Microsoft Media Player. If you are getting this error on every disc you try, you probably are misconfigured.

Doing that now. Now, if they don't play, what configurations should I look at?

Otherwise, what if they do play?

EDIT: They play just fine.

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by CeanD
Doing that now. Now, if they don't play, what configurations should I look at?

Otherwise, what if they do play?

The common errors are related to the avisynth plugins, copy your plugins in the avisynth plugins directory then just update the following registry entries :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\AviSynth]
"plugindir"="C:\\Program Files\\AviSynth 2.5\\plugins"
"plugindir2_5"="C:\\Program Files\\AviSynth 2.5\\plugins"

If they play it's something else ;)

(Did you check that for every avs file there is a m2v file after the encode phase ?)

[CeanD]

Moved on to encodeing, I'll let you know the results.

[joaoccc]

Hello,

i'm trying to make a copy of terminator 2, pal and in the rebuild it give me error 0003, buffer overflow.

DVD-RB - 0.41

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by VampHuntD
Jdobbs, yeah that's kimda important eh? I'm NTSC. Thanks for the clue in as well wmansir, could that possibly be what's going in? I'm testing with the movie My Best Friends Wedding Special Edition. (If anyone has a smaller dvd, let me know, I run this at a 2 pass CCE just to test out so less dvd, faster test.) Try version 0.42, just posted. I found another "stutter" error that could happen randomly throughout any disc.

[lab-one]

did you mean .42?

edit uno: I also noticed that under AVS Options>Advanced (expert) Options>the disable, resize and convert say apply to all rather than giving the options of selecting a specific VTS.

edit dos: I don't have a source selected, so maybe the above is me being dense....

edit tres: maybe I am really dense but the advanced cce settings are still vbr_bias: 10, and quality_prec: 24....

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by lab-one
did you mean .42?

edit uno: I also noticed that under AVS Options>Advanced (expert) Options>the disable, resize and convert say apply to all rather than giving the options of selecting a specific VTS.

edit dos: I don't have a source selected, so maybe the above is me being dense....

edit tres: maybe I am really dense but the advanced cce settings are still vbr_bias: 10, and quality_prec: 24.... Yep... typo... I just fixed it.

second question: Yep. Only the applicable sets are included in the menu... so if you haven't selected one there are none.

third: If you have ever changed the values then they are stored in your INI files at your latest settings. I've changed only the default... not your individual settings.

[lab-one]

ok. ignore everything i said :D

[Joergen]

RB34 and RB42 ... hmm reminds me of some kickass machineguns of old. ;)

[wgw]

Originally posted by CeanD
0.40
CCE 2.67.00.11
ECL 1.8

Movie I'm trying is : Any movie whatsoever, the error always comes up. (Swat currently)

Runtime 9, happens as DVD-RB attempts to rebuild the main movie file.

I also received the run-time error 9 about 50% through the rebuild. I am using RB v0.41, CCE 2.67.00.11, AVS 2.5, and ECL 1.81. My source is a DVD-Decrypter ISO of NTSC Fawlty Towers episode disc 1 mounted in Daemon Tools. I extracted the VOBs with DVD-Decrypter in file mode and used this as the source for DVD-RB. Process and Encode worked fine. Then the error occured halfway through Rebuild.

On my second attempt, I loaded the ISO into DVDShrink, set custom output size to 9.4GB, and created a backup at an automatic setting of 100% (no compression). Then I used the output from DVDShrink as the source for DVD-RB. This worked perfectly. There were no errors during rebuild.

Sounds like DVDShrink may have corrected a small error in the original DVD structure. Also, the output from DVDShrink was 4096 bytes smaller than the file mode rip with DVD-Decrypter. The size difference is in VTS_01_0.VOB. DVDShrink also completly removed VTS_02_0.VOB which is 0KB and apparently not needed. VTS_02 is the trailers and they play fine in PowerDVD and IFOEdit. The entire disc plays fine on the computer. I have not burned it yet, but it also passed the file check in RecordNow Max.

[SkoalWintergreen]

I also got the #0004 error, this is the first time I have gotten it. I am backing up Chapplle's Show: Season 1, Disc 1; Using CCE 2.50 (w/ eclcce). I've tried both RB .41 and .42 and I get the same #0004 error on the same cell with both of them.

And as always, even though we all know, great program, it's a pleasure to use.

[RB]

Originally posted by RB
Hmm, am I the only one having problems with subs in a standalone? Just trying again with v0.41.
OK, now processed two other (PAL) DVDs with 0.41 and again, subtitles work only in a software player, not in my standalone (JVC XV-S300BK).

Could some others (maybe it just happens with PAL?) please try to verify this?

Also, v0.41 didn't remove the layer break from the IFO. jdobbs, what algorithm do you use to identify the true dual-layer break?

[nwg]

I am only doing PAL DVD's (last one was Master and Commander). Subtitles have been working on all of them.

[RB]

Hmm, OK, I'll do some research.

[Alex_Rowe]

Hi,

I´d like to report an error:

DVD-RB Version: v0.42
Encoder: CCE-SP 2.67.00.23
EclCCE: yes
Bug: Rebuild Phase 3 Error: Subcript Out Of Range
Movie: Robotech Remasters Vol.1

This Tittle has 6 chapters of Robotech, each one using 1 VTS.
I used Half D, APPLY TO ALL.

what could it be?

Thanks.

[Oldeman]

version: .42
encoder: ReJig
Error 63 bad record number? in prepare

movie: Schindlers List R1 side B

Side B encodes sucessfully in QuEnc with DVD-RB ver .41... works marginal(some audio dropouts) in Apex 1500, but B/W sections stutters/freezes in Toshiba 4900. Have no tried ver.42 in QuEnc yet due to processing time required.

[CeanD]

Originally posted by wgw
I also received the run-time error 9 about 50% through the rebuild. I am using RB v0.41, CCE 2.67.00.11, AVS 2.5, and ECL 1.81. My source is a DVD-Decrypter ISO of NTSC Fawlty Towers episode disc 1 mounted in Daemon Tools. I extracted the VOBs with DVD-Decrypter in file mode and used this as the source for DVD-RB. Process and Encode worked fine. Then the error occured halfway through Rebuild.

On my second attempt, I loaded the ISO into DVDShrink, set custom output size to 9.4GB, and created a backup at an automatic setting of 100% (no compression). Then I used the output from DVDShrink as the source for DVD-RB. This worked perfectly. There were no errors during rebuild.

Sounds like DVDShrink may have corrected a small error in the original DVD structure. Also, the output from DVDShrink was 4096 bytes smaller than the file mode rip with DVD-Decrypter. The size difference is in VTS_01_0.VOB. DVDShrink also completly removed VTS_02_0.VOB which is 0KB and apparently not needed. VTS_02 is the trailers and they play fine in PowerDVD and IFOEdit. The entire disc plays fine on the computer. I have not burned it yet, but it also passed the file check in RecordNow Max.

Excellent news! Trying this now.

[CeanD]

:( Still got it. Same point, on the rebuild.

EDIT: Downloaded .42, and switched to 3 click, just to do the rebuild, it gets this far:

http://www.ceand.com/images/dvdrb.jpg

And then the "Runtime 9, Subscript out of Range" error pops up. Always at the exact same moment.

EDIT2: This is what the corresponding section in Rebuilder.inf has to say about the above m2v

[V04000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=3735.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=9630
Last_Sector=92594
Reduction=48.6
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0

[VampHuntD]

To the god known as Jdobbs......... :o (Smiley singing praise)
OK so I just made a perfect backup of My Best Friend's Wedding Special Edition with the following:

DVD-RB .42
CCE 2.67
ECL 1.7

So far, no errors, everything running perfectly. For others, I didn't use decomb so yeah I dunno in what situation I should, but this wasn't one of them. Jdobbs, you freaking rule. That's about all I got right now. I'm looking forward to the "complex" version of RB. I'll be sure to keep testing with other films and see what I get!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by VampHuntD
To the god known as Jdobbs......... :o (Smiley singing praise)
OK so I just made a perfect backup of My Best Friend's Wedding Special Edition with the following:

DVD-RB .42
CCE 2.67
ECL 1.7

So far, no errors, everything running perfectly. For others, I didn't use decomb so yeah I dunno in what situation I should, but this wasn't one of them. Jdobbs, you freaking rule. That's about all I got right now. I'm looking forward to the "complex" version of RB. I'll be sure to keep testing with other films and see what I get! Cool.

[Joergen]

On DVD-RB 0.42 I got my first #0004 error doing Kill Bill vol1 R2. Luckily it happens at 97.5% on VTS_3 (while rebuilding) which is the last to be processed and was so small I could copy the original to the rebuilt project and the size comes to 4.34GB.

Did Get VTS Sectors and tried in both software players no probs. The movie looked so damn fine (even with the 800MB extras) that I'd hate to waste it, so I'll "risk" a dvd-r (it will work though).

jdobbs: If you dont mind revealing it, what are these 0004 errors related to?

edit: burnt, tested on 3 standalones: no problemos.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
On DVD-RB 0.42 I got my first #0004 error doing Kill Bill vol1 R2. Luckily it happens at 97.5% on VTS_3 (while rebuilding) which is the last to be processed and was so small I could copy the original to the rebuilt project and the size comes to 4.34GB.

Did Get VTS Sectors and tried in both software players no probs. The movie looked so damn fine (even with the 800MB extras) that I'd hate to waste it, so I'll "risk" a dvd-r (it will work though).

jdobbs: If you dont mind revealing it, what are these 0004 errors related to? It means there is a lot of audio and/or subpicture data at the end of a cell that has no accompanying video. I have some code that can create a buffer overflow as it is flushing these cells out to the end-of-cell. I just have to make sure the fix doesn't cause more problems than it corrects.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It means there is a lot of audio and/or subpicture data at the end of a cell that has no accompanying video.

I was thinking it might have to do with audio processing since the vob that bombed out didnt have audio when you drag it into a player.

In any case, my first real error with a non-multiangle-weirdness disc ;) Not bad so far after about 10 discs.

A fix for it will surely be appreciated. Then again the occational error makes one appreciate a flawless backup even more :cool:

[candsh]

AMD 1400GHz
1 Gig RAM
RAID 0

CCE 2.67 (Basic)
RB .42
Master and Commander NTSC 7.54 Gig
Final Size 4.27Gig

Process froze 3 times during CCE encode but resumed after restart without problem. Picture excellent, no stutter on Pioneer DV-C36 in progressive playback. Did have definite "layer break" pause. Used all default settings and default installation procedures according to your instructions. I really think the freezing is my computer's problem. Shut down the network, antivirus and all other apps that I could and finished the encode with no other problems. Rebuild was smooth as silk and Nero had no complaints upoon loading for burn. Playback is through a Sony HD Video Projector (component/ RGB inputs) and projecting an 8' image.

Don't really know anything else to tell you but would kind of like to see the final size up in the 4.3's but no complaints at all about the end results.

Might add that I did not remove DTS and kept all English Audio

[Tobytl]

DVDRB .41 & .42
CCE 2.67
eclCCE 1.8b

Two out of the four dvds I have made with these versions have a strange problem right when the disc comes to the layer break on two of my dvd players. The problem is, right the point where the layer break used to be (well, ifoedit says it still is there) the video becomes very jerky, starts stops speeds up slows down, and sometimes the audio cuts out intermittenly (I know I spelled that wrong...). It will keep on doing this right through till the end of the movie, unless I somehow stop the playback and start it again (puase/play, stop/resume, hell even ffw/play). But if I rewind right to the point of the 'break' and play over it again, the playback gets jerky again.

I only know the model number from one of the glitching players, GE 5803P. I have two of these, both have this problem, neither has hacked firmware. The other player is an old phillips, model number is not displayed and it was a hand me down so no manual.

So far:
Matrix Revolutions - DVD-RB .41 all defualts (except bias and such), layer break stuttering
Kill Bill Vol1 - DVD-RB .41 all defualts (same cce settings changes), no layer break stuttering
Die Hard 2 - DVD-RB .42 all defualts, no layer break stuttering
Die Hard With a Vengance - DVD-RB .42 converted VTS2 to 16:9, has layer break stuttering

Both of the movies when completely redone with .40 have absolutely no problem on any of my players. Methinks this is related to the new code to handle layer breaks that was added in .41, but honestly it could be anything for all I know...

Im running several tests now, rerunning them through with rejig, with disable interlace checked/unchecked for main movie vts, different versions of cce, etc. I'll get back with results.

EDIT: Well, no luck. Rejig and CCE 2.5, with combinations of various options, still stuttering right at the layer break. Also confirmed that Die Hard 3 when run through .40 works great.

Anyway, im setting it up to run another movie through overnight. Even with this slight problem, this is still the best tool I have seen come out in a long time.

[RB]

Originally posted by RB
Hmm, am I the only one having problems with subs in a standalone? Just trying again with v0.41.
As a reminder, so far with every DVD-RB backup I had the problem that subtitles worked only in a software player, not in my standalone.

What I did in an attempt to track down the problem was extracting the raw subtitles from both original and rebuilt VOBs (v0.42) with VsRip. VsRip creates a *.SUB file which is basically a VOB containing only subpicture packets plus headers. Since in theory DVD-RB doesn't touch the subs, the .SUB files should be identical, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, they are not. File size is the same but there are differences in every PACK_HEADER. For example:

Original DVD-RB
-------- ------

Offset Value Offset Value
00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 64 00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 8F
00000008 5D AF 01 89 C3 F8 00 00 00000008 4C 5D 01 89 C3 F8 00 00

So the differences are in the lower 12 bits of SCR and possibly SCR_Ext. jdobbs, is this normal?

[tf]

RB: Every title had non-working subs? That seems odd, I've done 20-odd rips with DVD-RB, and subtitles have worked fine on: My Pioneer DV343, my Euroline 6588 (or smt), my friends Sony and a buddy's Scott player. Only those movies with Closed Captions had problems with subtitles, but that's natural, since it's not supported yet.

Out of curiousity, what player do you have?

-tf

[RB]

Yes, really odd, I tried 5 or 6 different DVDs so far. Player is a JVC XV-S300BK. I can switch through all the subtitle streams with the remote, they are all there and the OSD shows the selected stream as active, it's just that the subs are never displayed. The original discs work just fine, of course.

[Fr4nz]

RB try other players and see what happens. Maybe it's just a JVC issue.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
As a reminder, so far with every DVD-RB backup I had the problem that subtitles worked only in a software player, not in my standalone.

What I did in an attempt to track down the problem was extracting the raw subtitles from both original and rebuilt VOBs (v0.42) with VsRip. VsRip creates a *.SUB file which is basically a VOB containing only subpicture packets plus headers. Since in theory DVD-RB doesn't touch the subs, the .SUB files should be identical, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, they are not. File size is the same but there are differences in every PACK_HEADER. For example:

Original DVD-RB
-------- ------

Offset Value Offset Value
00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 64 00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 8F
00000008 5D AF 01 89 C3 F8 00 00 00000008 4C 5D 01 89 C3 F8 00 00

So the differences are in the lower 12 bits of SCR and possibly SCR_Ext. jdobbs, is this normal? Yes, the SCR (System Clock Reference) has to be changed when authoring so you can keep sync. The PTS may also change.

[walkistalki]

RB,

have had a similar issue (last version I tried was .36 though, so will try again)

movie: the mission, pal r2

this movie has default subtitles on.

when playing in my standalone, when i select the subtitles to be off, they continue to be shown.

on pc it works fine

[digitlman]

ive been trying the Eagles Hell freezes over dvd and with the last several versions CCE crashes after finishing segment 6. i can hit close on the error window it it will start on the next segment and finish the dvd. but the rebuild stage will crash rebuilder when it gets to that point.

im running dual p4 xeons with xp sp1
cce sp 2.67.0.23

i made a pic of the windows i will try to ul it, i thought i could but i dont have a http website to put the image on. i will try to find one and edit this i guess.

[RB]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
RB try other players and see what happens. Maybe it's just a JVC issue.
Well, since with the original disc subs work fine, I'd rather call it a DVD-RB issue :). jdobbs, anything I can do to help identifying the problem?

[quantum]

Originally posted by RB
Well, since with the original disc subs work fine, I'd rather call it a DVD-RB issue :). jdobbs, anything I can do to help identifying the problem? You never know what might give some clues till you try it. I'd suggest trying both the original and dvdrb copies in a different player. Then a Shrink version in the JVC.

It would be helpful to know if your output does not display subs on anything, or just your JVC.

[jikchung]

@jdobbs,
I can also confirm that the stuttering is gone for me as of v0.42. Still gettig the elapsed time/no chapter # update with FF/RW. That's not an issue for me though, just for your info.
Thanks for a great product.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Well, since with the original disc subs work fine, I'd rather call it a DVD-RB issue :). jdobbs, anything I can do to help identifying the problem? I know I had a wierdness associated with subs that was on my "when I get to it list"... it is associated with the NAVPACK's subpicture sync table. It appeared to be working ok -- so it stayed down the list...

[Centurione]

Hi all,
from some RB posts, now I see that he has my same identical problem, I signalled several posts ago.
Also for me in all my backups the subs are only visible in SW players not in standalone players ( I have a budget AMstrad 2320 player, so I do not think it is only related to JVC).
On a couple of title I solved the problem extracting the subtitles from the original with VsRip, converting to sup, and remixing everything with ifoedit (very tedious job), but at the end everything worked, so also for me there seems to be something in the way DVD RB mixes the subtitles, something that appears only on certain players (seems very few), unfortunately mine, and the RB on that list.
For all the other aspects I got no particular problem in doing backups.

[Paced]

I just tried 0.43a with Apocalypse Now (Redux) mainly to see how the new "1/2 D1 1/2 Space for Extras" worked. After preparation, I checked my AVS files, and the main movie was also being resized down to 1/2 D1.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Paced
I just tried 0.43a with Apocalypse Now (Redux) mainly to see how the new "1/2 D1 1/2 Space for Extras" worked. After preparation, I checked my AVS files, and the main movie was also being resized down to 1/2 D1.

AFAIK It only works if the extras are in a separate VTS (like on about 80% of DVDs from my experience)

[Paced]

Originally posted by Joergen
AFAIK It only works if the extras are in a separate VTS (like on about 80% of DVDs from my experience)

The extras are in a separate VTS.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Paced
I just tried 0.43a with Apocalypse Now (Redux) mainly to see how the new "1/2 D1 1/2 Space for Extras" worked. After preparation, I checked my AVS files, and the main movie was also being resized down to 1/2 D1. I'm looking at it. I'll try to get a fix up.

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm looking at it. I'll try to get a fix up.

Great, and thanks again for all the work you've done.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Paced
Great, and thanks again for all the work you've done. I just posted the fix as 0.43b... dumb-ass mistake.

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just posted the fix as 0.43b... dumb-ass mistake.

I can confirm 0.43b works as it should now, thanks again jdobbs.

----------------------

I've also got another question for you, and sorry if it's been asked before - I don't know much about this subject, but:

When you resize (down to 1/2 D1) an extra that is interlaced, is the use of BilinearResize(352x480/576) correct? I was always under the impression that it should look something like this when processing interlaced video

SeparateFields()
BilinearResize(352x240/288)
Weave()

? Or am I being paranoid, and it works out the same either way?

[Joergen]

Half-D1 only removes from the horizontal rez so you can still have 50/60 fields per second just like the original. You just squeeze the picture sideways, and then stretch it back again on playback.

DVB (digital TV, terrestial or satellite) uses this to help streams work with lower bandwidth.

[Paced]

Originally posted by Joergen
Half-D1 only removes from the horizontal rez so you can still have 50/60 fields per second just like the original. You just squeeze the picture sideways, and then stretch it back again on playback.

DVB (digital TV, terrestial or satellite) uses this to help streams work with lower bandwidth.

Thanks :)

[dave88]

Dang, I had another 0004 buffer overflow error, this one happened after encoding during the rebuild process, the disk is the chappelle show season 1 (funny stuff)

dvdrb 042
eclcce 181
cce sp 2.67.00.23

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I know I had a wierdness associated with subs that was on my "when I get to it list"... it is associated with the NAVPACK's subpicture sync table. It appeared to be working ok -- so it stayed down the list...
OK, thanks. Is it a little up the list now? :)

[RobertR]

Hi!
DVD-RB 0.43b
CCE SP Trial 2.67.00.9
Finding Nemo extras disc R2 Polish edition

Some avs'es have only one frame in them and CCE crashes on those avs'es. DVD-RB goes on encoding rest of avs but than it bombs out at rebuild stage (most probably due to missing mpv)
This is still frame problem, right? I was under impression that it's gone (lately i had no time to follow those huge threads on DVD-RB)

Big sorry if this is known problem at this stage of developement (once again: i thought that still frame issue was fixed not-so-long-ago)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RobertR
Hi!
DVD-RB 0.43b
CCE SP Trial 2.67.00.9
Finding Nemo extras disc R2 Polish edition

Some avs'es have only one frame in them and CCE crashes on those avs'es. DVD-RB goes on encoding rest of avs but than it bombs out at rebuild stage (most probably due to missing mpv)
This is still frame problem, right? I was under impression that it's gone (lately i had no time to follow those huge threads on DVD-RB)

Big sorry if this is known problem at this stage of developement (once again: i thought that still frame issue was fixed not-so-long-ago) I am aware of a possible problem with QuEnc and single frame encodes, and there is a (fairly) well known issue with CCE 2.50 (that I've inserted code to bypass). But I wasn't aware of any single frame issues with 2.67. I'm becoming more-and-more convinced that I should probably just roll stll frames over into the output unmodified. I looked at it quickly the other day, however, and it would require some considerable recoding.

[RobertR]

Good to know i've been helpfull in some way.
I'm still impressed by speed of developement of this awsome app.
As soon as Poland will be covered by PayPal (I hope this will happen soon after May, 1st when we will join EU) i'll make donations to You and some other authors of great little tools i use :D

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I am aware of a possible problem with QuEnc and single frame encodes, and there is a (fairly) well known issue with CCE 2.50 (that I've inserted code to bypass). But I wasn't aware of any single frame issues with 2.67.
I have no issues with single frame encodes and CCE-SP 2.67.00.23 and 2.67.00.27.

RobertR, make sure your AVS scripts actually use Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll, not some other Mpeg2Dec3 plugin. Can you play the AVS in MediaPlayer without crashing?

[DDogg]

Jdobbs, I have a replicatable "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on title "Italian Job". Please let me know if I can provide any further information. Also, are there any methods to work around this?

[RB]

DDogg, do you get this during prepare or rebuild?

[cptshamrock]

Since I've switched to .43b I got a buffer overflow error #0003. It happens during rebuild. Ive never had this problem with earlier versions and i tried the interlaced disabling as suggested in another post and that did not work.
CCE 2.67.00.23
ecl 1.8b
the dvd im re-building is full metal jacket

[CeanD]

Trying .43b now :D

Also, upgraded to CCESP 2.67.00.23 from .11, just to see if that'd do it.

/me crosses fingers.

[RobertR]

Originally posted by RB
I have no issues with single frame encodes and CCE-SP 2.67.00.23 and 2.67.00.27.
hmm maybe they fixed something in between?

RobertR, make sure your AVS scripts actually use Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll, not some other Mpeg2Dec3 plugin. Can you play the AVS in MediaPlayer without crashing?

This almost fresh W2K install. I've put Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll into plugin subdir of Avisynth 2.54 and am sure that i've pointed DVD-RB to right Mpeg2Dec3 plugin (there's either no other or eventually one that comes with DIF4U -- can't check atm as i'm away from that computer). I didn't try to play it in MPC or Media Player -- didn't thought of it. Will try in the morning.

BTW QuEnc looks like it's not having any probs with this particular dvd. Will see how it comes when i press ReBuild

One more info about my bug report: i get a habit of making ISO image of dvd i'm working on. May this cause crashes of CCE ? (i've seen some posts about some difference when using mounted ISO image and files ripped to hdd when using DVD-RB). Due to space limits i can't realy test this aspect at this moment.

[elmokiddo]

I'm also getting error "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on Kill Bill, I did this sucessfully with .39 (or mabye .40) in the past

DVD-RB .43b
CCE 2.67.00.23 trial with EclCCE

This is during the rebuild stage on VTS2
1/2 Space Extras are enabled

[nwg]

This is during the rebuild stage on VTS2

I am rebuilding it right now and about to get to VTS 2 with Kill Bill R2. It worked.

DVD-RB 043b
CCE 2.50 (3 passes)
eclCCE 1.81
Extras set to Half D1.

I reduced the extras a bit more with DVD Shrink prior to DVD-RB.

[DDogg]

Originally posted by RB -
DDogg, do you get this during prepare or rebuild?Sorry, RB, just noticed your message. Yes, it happens on rebuild.

[elmokiddo]

How do I check what revision it is? Kill bill r1? or r2?

[nwg]

How do I check what revision it is? Kill bill r1? or r2?

As in regions - R1 (USA/Canada) or R2 (Europe/Japan).

[elmokiddo]

Ohh!, thanks, I've always thought that meant revisions!

My Kill Bill is R1 btw :)

Elmo.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by DDogg
Jdobbs, I have a replicatable "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on title "Italian Job". Please let me know if I can provide any further information. Also, are there any methods to work around this?

I just got that error. I tried re-encoding the problem segment with CCE (just cut out the job from the .ecl and created a temp .ecl to load into CCE) and re-ran the rebuild and it worked. It could be a problem with the originally encoded segement (I encountered an error in the segment after the one that caused the error 9, CCE init() failed see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74901), and did that one it manually), or it could be because I restarted DVD-RB, or something else. Just something to try.

I wish I had saved the original .mpv file so I could compare them, but I didn't know if it would work and was just trying it out.

[wgw]

FYI @JDOBBS

Version 0.42 fixed the run-time error 9 I got with the Fawlty Towers disc and v0.41. V0.43b also worked. I'm suprised to see that others are getting the same error now.

[dinobike]

i think i found something when dvd-rb make a 4:3 --> 16:9 conversion.
The title i tried is Armagedon, region 4, and came 4:3 letterboxed so i try the conversion to 16:9 and worked great but the subtitle were gone. Th eversion i use were 0.37 to 0.40. I don't know if the new ones correct the ifo files for the subtitles ( that i supossed its the problem). With nothing else to say but, Jdobbs keep the good job!!, cause this is the best software out there!! ( and anywhere)

i´m using cce 2.5 with eclcce

[RB]

Originally posted by RobertR
This almost fresh W2K install. I've put Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll into plugin subdir of Avisynth 2.54 and am sure that i've pointed DVD-RB to right Mpeg2Dec3 plugin (there's either no other or eventually one that comes with DIF4U -- can't check atm as i'm away from that computer).
That is, you also set "Path to MPEG2DEC3DG" in Rebuilder and ticked the "Add to AVS file" option? You shouldn't do this then because this actually loads Mpeg2Dec3Dg.dll twice which could cause problems. The first time it's auto-loaded because it's in the AVISynth plugins directory, the second time because of the LoadPlugin() in the AVS. I'm not sure how AVISynth reacts in this situation.

[RobertR]

Originally posted by RB
That is, you also set "Path to MPEG2DEC3DG" in Rebuilder and ticked the "Add to AVS file" option? You shouldn't do this then because this actually loads Mpeg2Dec3Dg.dll twice which could cause problems. The first time it's auto-loaded because it's in the AVISynth plugins directory, the second time because of the LoadPlugin() in the AVS. I'm not sure how AVISynth reacts in this situation.
I've put path to Mpeg2Dec3dg but i did not tick "Add to AVS file". I've just searched my disk and found three instances of Mpeg2Dec3dg (one in plugin dir, DIF4U one and NuMenu4U one). I do have also Mpeg2Dec3.dll but they are outside plugin dir (DIF4U and NuMenu4U ships them) and thus should not be found by AviSynth.
I checked also if those 1 frame avs file play in Windows Media Player and they do open up without any problems. However this avs where created for QuEnc not for CCE, i'm almost sure that they look exactly the same in both cases. I'll regenerate avs'es in a few minutes and see if i'm not mistaken.
All in all it looks like either bug in CCE or in my instalation of CCE (this was first CCE encode on this machine) (the latter is not likely cause on avs that have more than 1 frame CCE is doing great)

[RobertR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I am aware of a possible problem with QuEnc and single frame encodes, and there is a (fairly) well known issue with CCE 2.50 (that I've inserted code to bypass). But I wasn't aware of any single frame issues with 2.67. I'm becoming more-and-more convinced that I should probably just roll stll frames over into the output unmodified. I looked at it quickly the other day, however, and it would require some considerable recoding.
To cheer You up a bit i'll say that
DVD-RB 0.43b
QuEnc 0.45
Finding Nemo Extras Disc R2 Polish Edition
rebuilded without any probs. No crashing, no errors, no problems with single frame encodes. Superb!
Disc doesn't work tho but it's my fault.. I didn't check it earlier.. this dvd has menu in VTS_01_1.VOB! :( It uses BOV i suppose (is there any other way of doing menu in _1.VOB ?) so it won't work with DVD-RB.
Stupid me :)

[RB]

Originally posted by RobertR
It uses BOV i suppose (is there any other way of doing menu in _1.VOB ?)
A menu is BOV is a menu :)

[RobertR]

Originally posted by RB
A menu is BOV is a menu :)
ermm.. i meant _1.VOB not _0.VOB :D well yeah BoV is a menu is a BoV ;)
anyway at this stage DVD-RB just stripped subpic and/or navpacks that where needed. I've never looked into backuping BoV dvds so i'm just that little bit scared...

[dancis]

Hi

I am still getting error buffer overflow error 0003 with v0.44 and ecc 2.5 with eclcce 1.81
I can watch it in windows mediaplayer , and this file is the DTS intro with the piano this is giving the rebuild problem.

[V03012200002001]
SCR=,000
PTS=5400,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=450
Last_Sector=19824
Reduction=39,1
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0

I hope this helps or do you need other info?

[samuraijack]

Originally posted by elmokiddo
I'm also getting error "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on Kill Bill, I did this sucessfully with .39 (or mabye .40) in the past

DVD-RB .43b
CCE 2.67.00.23 trial with EclCCE

This is during the rebuild stage on VTS2
1/2 Space Extras are enabled \

Same thing exactly except for Im using 2.50 with EclCCE 1.8
Did Master and Commander with .42 the previous night with no problems. Used a copy of the ini from .42 for .43b

A thing that makes you go Hmmmmmmmm...

[quantum]

Originally posted by RB
That is, you also set "Path to MPEG2DEC3DG" in Rebuilder and ticked the "Add to AVS file" option? You shouldn't do this then because this actually loads Mpeg2Dec3Dg.dll twice which could cause problems. The first time it's auto-loaded because it's in the AVISynth plugins directory, the second time because of the LoadPlugin() in the AVS. I'm not sure how AVISynth reacts in this situation. What sort of problems do you think this could cause? Mine is auto loaded, so I don't check the "Add to AVS file" option, but I can see others could easily have done this thinking it was the right thing to do.

[mosher2k]

Hi,

tested v0.44 with LOTR 2 PAL-Version Disc 3 and 4
and both finished with buffer overflows error 0004
while rebuilding.

Disc 4 aborted while rebuilding segment 136 VOBID
137 CELLID 1.

I used cce-mode,one click mode without removing
anything.

Regards,
Mosher2k

[lab-one]

@quantum

What sort of problems do you think this could cause? Mine is auto loaded, so I don't check the "Add to AVS file" option, but I can see others could easily have done this thinking it was the right thing to do.

I have it in the AVISynth plug-ins directory and have it setup in DVD-RB to add to avs file. I...don't have any problems?

Maybe I should uncheck the add to avs option?

[CeanD]

Originally posted by CeanD
Trying .43b now :D

Also, upgraded to CCESP 2.67.00.23 from .11, just to see if that'd do it.

/me crosses fingers.

Still got it(Runtime 9), although on a different VTS during rebuild.

[imd_man]

Hey jdobbs! I've successfully used DVD-RB for about 6 of my DVDs now. It's worked just great! However, they've all been quite simple DVDs (simple structures, no forced subs). So I was just curious, does DVD-RB work with forced subs?

Thanks!

Best

[DDogg]

imd_man, that's not a bug report. There is a comments and suggestions thread. :)

[imd_man]

crap! I'm so sorry! Totally fogot which thread I was in! Too many about this program :) But hey, when it's this cool :)

[wmansir]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: cce_encode_init() failed
5. Extra info:

I found a setting, at least in one case, which fixes the problem. It had to do with using non_linear=1 on very short, Half-D1 cells.

There is already a thread on this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74901).

This problem seems to only occur with mutli-pass encoding of Half-D1 clips that are only a few dozen frames long, the longest I encountered it on was 33 frames. I tracked down the problem in the item.ecl and found that by switching non_linear=1 to non_linear=0 the error went away. It also doesn't occur with CBR encodes and it doesn't seem to be a problem for Full-D1 clips.

[jdobbs]

I've found the cause of the previous "Runtime error '9'" and more recent "...no I-Frame for 51 frames" errors. It is related to a DVD Decrypter bug that only occurs when using ISO mode. Which explains whey I had such a hard time repeating it -- I've always used "file" mode until recently. MAKE SURE YOU ARE USING DVD DECRYPTER VERSION 3.2.1.0 or above...

BTW, while I'm on the subject... DVD Decrypter is a GREAT piece of software and deserves donations...

I found this in the DVD Decrypter update log for 3.2.1.0:

Fixed: Big bug in ISO Read mode where files following 0 bytes files weren't decrypted

I went back and checked, and indeed, the problem I encountered was due to the fact that it followed a zero length file. If anyone gets this error UPGRADE YOUR VERSION OF DVD DECRYPTER TO V3.2.1.0.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
OK, now processed two other (PAL) DVDs with 0.41 and again, subtitles work only in a software player, not in my standalone (JVC XV-S300BK).

Could some others (maybe it just happens with PAL?) please try to verify this?

Also, v0.41 didn't remove the layer break from the IFO. jdobbs, what algorithm do you use to identify the true dual-layer break? I looked at a couple of DVDs and it appeared that "Layer Break" seemed to be indicated by the first byte of the cell playback information table being set to "0" indicating a lack of seamless playback but without SCR discontinuity. So I looked for those and set them to 0x8 (seamless playback) -- it fixed it on the test discs. I've since seen that there are also mid-disc "Layer Breaks" that are set to "2" indicating a lack of seamless playback accompanied by SCR discontinuity. I'm not catching these, and am wondering how I can... as there may be many of these that are "legitimate" (it should be set like this every time the SCR goes back to 0 -- which happens all the time...)

Do you have an algorithm you use?

Thanks.

[nwg]

I have also seen many PAL R2 DVD's set to "2".

In the past, I have been usng ifoedit to take these out. I add 8 to the 2 and put in 10. Ones set to 0 then becomes 8.

The ifoedit procedure is -

1. Open the movie's IFO, usually VTS_01_0.IFO, with IFOEdit
2. Note the cell number where the layer break occurs.
3. Note the PGC number, usually PGC_1
4. Expand VTS_PGCITI and select the PGC noted at (3)
5. Scroll down until you find the cell number noted at (2)
6. The very first entry for that cell - cell type - will have some value other than 8.
7. Double click this line and change the value by adding 8 to whatever's there now. Thus, if it's 2 make it 10, if it's 0 make it 8.
8. Save the file.

Every DVD has worked 100% using this method.

Is there anyway to look for this 0 or 2 and just add 8 to it. I hope I have explained it ok, I am not very technical in these aspects compared to other people.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by nwg
I have also seen many PAL R2 DVD's set to "2".

In the past, I have been usng ifoedit to take these out. I add 8 to the 2 and put in 10. Ones set to 0 then becomes 8.

The ifoedit procedure is -

1. Open the movie's IFO, usually VTS_01_0.IFO, with IFOEdit
2. Note the cell number where the layer break occurs.
3. Note the PGC number, usually PGC_1
4. Expand VTS_PGCITI and select the PGC noted at (3)
5. Scroll down until you find the cell number noted at (2)
6. The very first entry for that cell - cell type - will have some value other than 8.
7. Double click this line and change the value by adding 8 to whatever's there now. Thus, if it's 2 make it 10, if it's 0 make it 8.
8. Save the file.

Every DVD has worked 100% using this method.

Is there anyway to look for this 0 or 2 and just add 8 to it. I hope I have explained it ok, I am not very technical in these aspects compared to other people. That works great if you can intuitively look at it and decide which one is the "Layer Break" that needs to be removed. But making a program intuitive is very difficult. Are there any signs, settings, etc. that you look for that show it is the correct cell... The reason I ask is to prevent problems associated with removing true STC discontinuities.

[nwg]

I just look for the layer break that appears through the film's VTS then remember the cell number. There are often lots of other layer breaks shown in the other VTS files, I ignore these. I haven't seen more than one in Ifoedit in the film VTS.

I can see why it is more diffcult for program to do it.

[bobrap]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE basic
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Bug encountered: cce encoding failed: MPVA VBV ovf frame# 0 (00:00:00:00) I 3956(1.$) rel 3956.00 1.#J qsv 112.00->112.00

After pressing OK:

vinfi_open() failed: Bad data frames=0<C:\KILLBILL_VOL1\D2VAVS\V03000300004001.vaf

Image file is mounted with Daemon tools. One click mode. Dynamically assign cell bitrates and Half D-1/Half Space for extras checked.

Rebuild phase ok. Final size 4.23GB with CCETargetSectors=2286000.

To be honest, I haven't a clue what this means. Just thought I would post in case it is something that someone might need to see.

:thanks:

[daxab]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. EclCCE: 1.7b
4. Bug encountered: Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range
5. Extra info:

Appears during rebuild phase. Would like to post log here, but the program bailed out, and the log was lost.

Source = Kill Bill v1 ISO.

[wmansir]

@bobrap
That's a VBV (video Buffer Verifier) error message. It's usually the result of CCE trying to encode a very complex scene with too small a bitrate. By very complex I'm talking about video "snow" or "static" most of the time, like HBO's opening logo, although I have encountered it with other complex material if I'm using a particularly low bitrate.

Search the CCE forum for VBV error and you'll get a dozen threads on this. Unfortunately there is no quick fix. You can try a newer version of CCE, or try to "tame" the offending section with filters. As a last resort you can cut out the problem section.

[dancis]

I have made my first working copy YES !!!! but subs doesn't work on all stand alone players. Had this problem from the begining i think i have to live with this or i will buy a new dvd player.

[quantum]

You're not the first to have problems with subs. It looks like there may be a problem with subs that does not appear on every player.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I looked at a couple of DVDs and it appeared that "Layer Break" seemed to be indicated by the first byte of the cell playback information table being set to "0" indicating a lack of seamless playback but without SCR discontinuity. So I looked for those and set them to 0x8 (seamless playback) -- it fixed it on the test discs. I've since seen that there are also mid-disc "Layer Breaks" that are set to "2" indicating a lack of seamless playback accompanied by SCR discontinuity. I'm not catching these, and am wondering how I can... as there may be many of these that are "legitimate" (it should be set like this every time the SCR goes back to 0 -- which happens all the time...)

Do you have an algorithm you use?
I have written a batch file that I use to demux DVDs, and the algorithm I use to identify the layer break is more like an educated guess :) If there's a "layer break", I check whether it's in the largest VTS and therein in the largest PGC. Then if it's the only "layer break" in the PGC (ignoring "layer break" at first or last cell), I decide that this is the dual-layer break :) Not bullet proof, but has worked so far.

The bullet proof method would require access to the original DVD or a mounted ISO. You would send the DVD drive a IOCTL_DVD_READ_STRUCTURE command via DeviceIoControl() API and request return of a DVD_LAYER_DESCRIPTOR structure. The structure has a EndLayerZeroSector member that can be matched against the sector numbers in the IFO. Not sure this call is valid for Win9x.

I'd recommend contacting DVDShrink and Lightning UK! about this.

[RB]

Originally posted by quantum
You're not the first to have problems with subs. It looks like there may be a problem with subs that does not appear on every player. jdobbs is aware of the problem, see http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=479320#post479320 . I'm sure it will be fixed along the way.

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I looked at a couple of DVDs and it appeared that "Layer Break" seemed to be indicated by the first byte of the cell playback Or just forget about it. So what if you have a slight pause at the layer break? I never noticed it on my players anyway. I'd rather have that than some work-around that could introduce intermittent side effects.

[Sir Didymus]

Originally posted by TheGame7
I "CCE'd" a DVD and just got round to checking it today and found that it stutters a fair bit - during camera flashes in particular.

The original DVD does not suffer from this problem, nor does the DVD Rip (done via DVDDecrypter).

Any ideas to what could be causing this?

I am using a Bias of 20 and a QP of 16.

Everything else looks like a great encode except for these stutters.

Can I remind you that its happening ON the PC, not been burned to DVD yet nor put in a player..

May I suggest to burn it in any case on a good quality rewritable media, in order to check what happen with a standalone player ?

Lot of factors in a PC may lead to have a poor play of a good DVD...

I know it is time consuming, but if you want to be sure the problem is really there, I would recommend to verify the presence of the problem on a standalone...

[robot1]

DVD-RB 0.44
Encoder: Rejig
Using EclCCE: N
Bug: I've got an error 9 during rebuild phase. It happens at the end of the "rebuilding segment" phase, (before the updating nav-packs one).
I think it could be related to the gop structure of the source: if I encode that segment with Qenc or the demo of CCE the rebuilding finishes without problems.
Every version of DVD-RB I've tried with that DVD (using Rejig) shows this error in the same place.
Let me know if I can give you further informations.
Sorry for my English...

[wmansir]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: TargetSectors= is ignored in .ini

Even though the Readme states that TargetSectors= will still work, it is ignored. I ran a few tests and TargetSectors= did not affect the bitrates used. I also tried CCETargetSectors= and it worked.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: TargetSectors= is ignored in .ini

Even though the Readme states that TargetSectors= will still work, it is ignored. I ran a few tests and TargetSectors= did not affect the bitrates used. I also tried CCETargetSectors= and it worked. Are there any conflicting entries in the INI? If there is a "TargetSectors=" and (e.g.) "CCETargetSectors=" both in the INI, the "TargetSectors=" is overridden by the specific one if you are using that encoder.

[jurij]

jdobbs:
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.023
3. Using eclCCE? Y

Hi, i would like to report a bug win dvd-rb 0.44:
i backuped "the blues brothers" and the bonus material was 1.8 GB.
i decided to do resize bonus to "half D1".
now when i watch the bonus with subtitles, the subtitles are twice as width and the don't fit on screen. i can see only 50% of the subs.
Is there a workaround?

Is there a way to give less bitrate to the extras (trailers...) compared to the default bitrate dvd-rb calculates to use?
Thanx for the good job

edit:
I just noticed the option: "half D1 and half bitrate 4 extras".
Does that mean i still have to choose which VTS to use half D1 and for each of the VTSs i select DVD-RB also halfs the bitrate?

[Paced]

Originally posted by jurij
jdobbs:
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.023
3. Using eclCCE? Y

Hi, i would like to report a bug win dvd-rb 0.44:
i backuped "the blues brothers" and the bonus material was 1.8 GB.
i decided to do resize bonus to "half D1".
now when i watch the bonus with subtitles, the subtitles are twice as width and the don't fit on screen. i can see only 50% of the subs.
Is there a workaround?

Is there a way to give less bitrate to the extras (trailers...) compared to the default bitrate dvd-rb calculates to use?
Thanx for the good job

Have you tried playing it in your standalone? My subtitles look way off when I use a software player to play back the DVD (when using half D1), but when I put it in my standalones, the subtitles look just like they did on the original.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
jdobbs:
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.023
3. Using eclCCE? Y

Hi, i would like to report a bug win dvd-rb 0.44:
i backuped "the blues brothers" and the bonus material was 1.8 GB.
i decided to do resize bonus to "half D1".
now when i watch the bonus with subtitles, the subtitles are twice as width and the don't fit on screen. i can see only 50% of the subs.
Is there a workaround?

Is there a way to give less bitrate to the extras (trailers...) compared to the default bitrate dvd-rb calculates to use?
Thanx for the good job I have no current plans to resize Half-D1 subtitles. I do plan to, however, provide a method of reducing bitrates of full sized extras.

[jurij]

of course:
Subs are messed up only in that "backup" i made using the "resize half D1" option in the Extras......
subs in the movie are ok and also in the 30 other "backups" i made so far

[jurij]

jdobbs:
so you mean "large subs in half D1" it's a known issue and there is no workaound right?

you already made possible to reduce (half) the bitrate of extras, haven't you?

[Joergen]

Why would a hardware player that uses 720x576/480 at all times need to toy around with the subtitle resolution? I mean, a hardware player has all sorts of GRAPHICS displayed over the video when you press buttons (subs info, angle info, audio etc displays) that are NOT resized to fit any special resolutions (VCD, SVCD etc). Which means the rez on playback is always full and the video itself is scaled, which in turn means subtitles of 720x576/480 should work just fine.

And if they dont, the dvd consortium sure did a sloppy job implementint half-d1 in the first place. :angry:

But it doesnt surprise me if software players (especially PowerDVD) poop themselves with anything but 720 width video.

Has anybody had problems with half-d1 extras and their subs on a STANDALONE? And if so, what make?

[fusion007]

dvd-rb v0.44 cce v2.6 first attempt went ok till near the end where i got an error on kill-bill r2,so i went and got the new version of ecl and avsyinth etc..i started it all again and now as soon as cce opens i get a 1088x56 not supported only 720x576 message any ideas?

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by fusion007
dvd-rb v0.44 cce v2.6 first attempt went ok till near the end where i got an error on kill-bill r2,so i went and got the new version of ecl and avsyinth etc..i started it all again and now as soon as cce opens i get a 1088x56 not supported only 720x576 message any ideas?

That's an avisynth problem. Just download mpeg2dec3dg.dll. Then in RB->Options->Setup set mpeg2dec3dg.dll path and check the add to avs file option.

That should solve your problem.
Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
jdobbs:
so you mean "large subs in half D1" it's a known issue and there is no workaound right?

you already made possible to reduce (half) the bitrate of extras, haven't you? Yes, but only when they have been reduced to Half-D1

[fusion007]

@P3gasus,thanks for your reply u solved my problem what i did wrong was use the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll installed under dvd2vcd presuming it would work which it didnt so i just d/l it and installed sorted!

[dancis]

i made a backup of tomraider2 R2 and got an buffer overflow error 0004 , when i watch the file causing the error , it is a telecine version of deleted scenes

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by fusion007
@P3gasus,thanks for your reply u solved my problem what i did wrong was use the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll installed under dvd2vcd presuming it would work which it didnt so i just d/l it and installed sorted! Now that makes you wonder... does dvd2vcd have a modified version of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL? It really shouldn't matter.

[alanuk]

DVD Rebuilder v0.44 Beta
CCE Basic Ver.2.67.01.19
eclCCE: No

Bug: At the end of the "rebuilding segment" phase I'm regularly getting an error 9.

[DirtyAbdul]

here are 2 minor "cosmetic" bugs:

1. when you click on the menu "help > readme," the lower part of the readme is cut off. of course, you could just open the rebuilder.txt file directly, but that's why i call it a "cosmetic" bug -- no big deal, just want to report it.

2. CCE basic was minimized at the beginning while encoding, but since i opened it to read the progress report, even the "minimize" option keeps the CCE window open all the time!?! :confused: any suggestion? and again, not a big deal, just wondering.

progs used:
1. DVD-RB v0.44
2. CCE Basic v2.67.01.19

yeah, we'll keep ya busy with all the bug reports, but you're doin' a hell of a job! another $10 is already on the way! :D

DA

[CeanD]

Changed it to 4 passes on a tip. And it fails still, but, at a different point during the rebuild....

Originally posted by CeanD
Still got it(Runtime 9), although on a different VTS during rebuild.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
here are 2 minor "cosmetic" bugs:

1. when you click on the menu "help > readme," the lower part of the readme is cut off. of course, you could just open the rebuilder.txt file directly, but that's why i call it a "cosmetic" bug -- no big deal, just want to report it.

2. CCE basic was minimized at the beginning while encoding, but since i opened it to read the progress report, even the "minimize" option keeps the CCE window open all the time!?! :confused: any suggestion? and again, not a big deal, just wondering.

progs used:
1. DVD-RB v0.44
2. CCE Basic v2.67.01.19

yeah, we'll keep ya busy with all the bug reports, but you're doin' a hell of a job! another $10 is already on the way! :D

DA 1. I purposely cut the bottom off the internal readme so it only goes back a certain period. After beta I will probably start the timeline over again.

2. I'll check that out, not sure why...

3. Thanks for the support!

[EddieTH]

DVD-RB 0.44

I was looking at AVS files for my first project with any resizing (LB 4:3 to 16:9) and I noticed that interlaced video is being resized without separating fields first.

[Mr Magic]

Originally posted by Joergen

But it doesnt surprise me if software players (especially PowerDVD) poop themselves with anything but 720 width video.

I just tried it with the R2 version of Oceans's 11. The subs on the extras look a bit 'crushed' when in PowerDVD, but still very well readable. In WinDVD however, the subs are all screwed.


Has anybody had problems with half-d1 extras and their subs on a STANDALONE? And if so, what make?

On my standalone (cheapo Hiteker HE-1800) they work perfectly. In my Xbox the subs look similarly 'crushed' as in PowerDVD, but again very well readable.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by EddieTH
DVD-RB 0.44

I was looking at AVS files for my first project with any resizing (LB 4:3 to 16:9) and I noticed that interlaced video is being resized without separating fields first.

Yep its covered in another thread. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74646&perpage=20&pagenumber=2

[EddieTH]

Originally posted by Joergen
Yep its covered in another thread. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74646&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
Okay, never mind then.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Mr Magic
[B]

On my standalone (cheapo Hiteker HE-1800) they work perfectly. In my Xbox the subs look similarly 'crushed' as in PowerDVD, but again very well readable.

Good that they work in the cheapo player like they should. The Xbox should be taken as a software player as I believe the video decoding is done by the CPU and video adapter, not a dedicated MPEG2 chip built to handle the standard.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by EddieTH
DVD-RB 0.44

I was looking at AVS files for my first project with any resizing (LB 4:3 to 16:9) and I noticed that interlaced video is being resized without separating fields first. It's been fixed and will be included in v0.45

[jhmac]

Has anyone else had a problem with audio going out of sync when using "Convert LB 4:3 to 16:9"? I posted this before but but got no reply. I did "The Hunt For Red October" and the audio was fine at first but would slowly go out of sync, it would re-sync up at chapter points only to go out of sync again. Any Ideas?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jhmac
Has anyone else had a problem with audio going out of sync when using "Convert LB 4:3 to 16:9"? I posted this before but but got no reply. I did "The Hunt For Red October" and the audio was fine at first but would slowly go out of sync, it would re-sync up at chapter points only to go out of sync again. Any Ideas? That's an ongoing problem that seems to happen with only certain movies. I am making some changes in 0.45 that may have an affect on that.

[borgraf]

Hiya,

I might've run into a small bug here. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, maybe it's a "feature"..

When using the "Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9" option on my latest project "John Carpenter's The Thing" (PAL), only the first subtitle on the list worked. Selecting any of the following subtitles would still display the first one, in this case English. Deactivating worked, and activating any sub worked.. it just displayed english on all of them.

I ran the project again from the same source and with the same settings except for the 4:3 to 16:9 conversion, and then the subtitles worked fine.

Just for the heck of it I ran the project once more with the conversion, and again it would display english no matter what sub was selected.

oops, almost forgot..

0.44
2.67
1.81

Added: DVD-RB is usually very close to target size, except when using the half D1/half bitrate for extras option. I've been getting a steady 4.32-4.35 GB with CCETargetSectors=2251760 (thank you quantum), but when using the mentioned option I get as low as 4.03 GB

Added #2: where are my manners :confused: I love making backups with this prog, thanks for working so hard on it jdobbs!

[rui]

Originally posted by borgraf

Added: DVD-RB is usually very close to target size, except when using the half D1/half bitrate for extras option. I've been getting a steady 4.32-4.35 GB with CCETargetSectors=2251760 (thank you quantum), but when using the mentioned option I get as low as 4.03 GB



I noticed the same. I was doing a backup of "The Battle of Midway", and selected option mentioned above. The final size was 4,04 GB

I used:

DVD-RB 0.43b, with all settings at default values
ECLCCE 1.81
CCE 2.67.00.23

Not complaining, the final quality of the movie was still GREAT!
Thanks again for the great software :)

[nwg]

I don't know if this can be considered a bug. It looks like the Half D1 for extras doesn't work very well with episodic DVD's. I did CSI Season 2 disc 1. It has a few small extras as well as four episodes. The result was just 3.25GB.

Without the option selected the final size is 4.31GB.

DVD-RB 0.43b/0.45
CCE 2.50
eclCCE 1.81


I also got an error with Quenc 0.47 and 0.45 DVD-RB. I was doing the smae DVD with 2 pass. It got encoding done to 94% and then got a video codec cannot be opened error message? The program hen stopped encoding.

Edit.

I forgot about the manual setting of Half-D1 (the old way). I will try it again, I just wished I remembered this 12 hours ago. :D It's all part of the fun.

[jdobbs]

A note to everyone. You cannot continue jobs started with a previous version (e.g. just do a REBUILD) on ANY job with 0.45 -- there is an additional INF entry that is now inserted during PREPARE that is essential. I'm going to modify the notice for 0.45 to clarify that fact.

[DDogg]

I still got the '9' on rebuild of 'ItalianJob'. Hopefully you can try that title sometime. There are a lot of stills and they seem to be distorted. I've attached one of them.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
I still got the '9' on rebuild of 'ItalianJob'. Hopefully you can try that title sometime. There are a lot of stills and they seem to be distorted. I've attached one of them. It looks like possibly one of the two fields is distorted.

[thedeath]

DVD-R Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.09
Using eclCCE? YES

Bug encountered:
When i try to rebuild the DVD DVD-RB says always to me: "Error in IFOupdate, please inform the author".
Befor that everything works fine, and there were no probs with a few other DVD's. It just this one.

If you need to know more about this prob, let me know!

Greetings, TheDeath

[RB]

Originally posted by thedeath
When i try to rebuild the DVD DVD-RB says always to me: "Error in IFOupdate, please inform the author".
Did you do use any "stripping" utility before running DVD-RB, anything else except Decrypter got it's hands on the DVD files?

[nwg]

I redid CSI season 2 Disc 1 (PAL) with Quenc. I got a runtime error 9 at 96%.

This is actually the first time I got the error.

[Oldeman]

DVD-RB .45
QuEnc .47
Error 6 source inconsistancy between prepare and rebuild...
during rebuild

Tried as 1 click bombed. Tried are three step bombed at same place
end of segment 1 vob 2 cellid 1.

movie Elizabeth R1.
Works ok using same source with Rejig. :confused:

[Status]
mode=2
Progress=2
CCEType=0
Encode_Progress=36

[V03000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=17817.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=292
Last_Sector=5122
Reduction=75.9
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=1113912.000

[V03000100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=17404.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1164
Last_Sector=18216
Reduction=75.9
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=4386769.000

[V03000200003001]
SCR=.000
PTS=17404.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=841
Last_Sector=33217
Reduction=75.9
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=3173557.000

[Patdumpsite]

Originally posted by nwg
I also got an error with Quenc 0.47 and 0.45 DVD-RB. I was doing the smae DVD with 2 pass. It got encoding done to 94% and then got a video codec cannot be opened error message? The program hen stopped encoding.



I received this same error message for the second time when backing up Alien 3 [NTSC].

Using:
DVD-RB .45
QuEnc .47

I also got it the other day when trying to back up Kill Bill vol. 1 [NTSC] using:

DVD-RB .43
QuEnc .45

With Kill Bill I clicked on the error and it continued to encode and after getting the error 3-4 times it finally finished. The final result would play on VLC, I couldn't seem to find anything wrong with it, but the file size was small. 3.5 to 3.7GB

I am afraid I erased it :rolleyes: so I don't have anything more to offer.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Oldeman
DVD-RB .45
QuEnc .47
Error 6 source inconsistancy between prepare and rebuild...
during rebuild
That's interesting. I got this error (0006) for the first time yesterday. It happens only on a ReJig source and won't happen in QuEnc or CCE. I'm investigating. This error is only supposed to occur when the frame count is different between the original source and the newly encoded one.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Patdumpsite
I received this same error message for the second time when backing up Alien 3 [NTSC].

Using:
DVD-RB .45
QuEnc .47

I also got it the other day when trying to back up Kill Bill vol. 1 [NTSC] using:

DVD-RB .43
QuEnc .45

With Kill Bill I clicked on the error and it continued to encode and after getting the error 3-4 times it finally finished. The final result would play on VLC, I couldn't seem to find anything wrong with it, but the file size was small. 3.5 to 3.7GB

I am afraid I erased it :rolleyes: so I don't have anything more to offer. Look in the Encoders section under the QuEnc thread. This was reported as a bug under QuEnc and Nic is working it.

[jhmac]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That's an ongoing problem that seems to happen with only certain movies. I am making some changes in 0.45 that may have an affect on that.

I will do "The Hunt For Red October" again tonight and see if there any improvements...

Thanks!

[thedeath]

Originally posted by RB
Did you do use any "stripping" utility before running DVD-RB, anything else except Decrypter got it's hands on the DVD files?

No, the only thing i used was DVD Decrypter to rip, nothing else!

Greetings, TheDeath

[acido]

Just a little thing that may be adjusted with removed audio streams : unselected audio streams in DVD-RB can still be selected when playing the final backup leading to mute playback. This is good because some menus still requires all streams entries in order to work properly. If you pass the DVD-RB backup through DVD Shrink checking only the needed streams, this time removed entries are still present but you cannot select them since they are greyed out. Can you try to fix it the same way? Removing audio streams with IFOEDIT sometimes is not as good because menus will fail selecting audio streams left.

@jdobbs
I've already posted the above considerations in "comment and suggestion" thread but i've got no fbks. I'm the only one experiencing the above?

[wmansir]

Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs
I've already posted the above considerations in "comment and suggestion" thread but i've got no fbks. I'm the only one experiencing the above?

That's normal. How are you "removing" streams with IFOedit? Are you actually stripping them via VOB extras? or just "0" out the audio status in the PGC? I believe all DVDShrink does is "0" out the audio status, which should be enough, and won't mess up the menu selections.

See this guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60444) by 2COOL. Note that it was written for DVDShrink 3.0b5 and earlier. DVDShrink 3.1 already uses this method.

[acido]

Originally posted by wmansir
That's normal. How are you "removing" streams with IFOedit? Are you actually stripping them via VOB extras? or just "0" out the audio status in the PGC? I believe all DVDShrink does is "0" out the audio status, which should be enough, and won't mess up the menu selections.

See this guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60444) by 2COOL. Note that it was written for DVDShrink 3.0b5 and earlier. DVDShrink 3.1 already uses this method.

@ wmansir,jdobbs
With IFOEDIT i was stripping VOB extras taking as input DVD-RB created VOBS in order to try to remove the "ghosted" audio stream, but found this way no good and used DVDShrink 3.1 instead.
.
What i'm asking is if it would be too much effort for jdobbs to have DVD-RB behave like DVDShrink 3.1, this will avoid selection of blanked-out audio streams and mute playbacks .
Thanks.

[Masao]

Don't know if anyone else is having this problem or not, but whenever I even try to load a DVD into DVD-RB I get this error:

Run-time error "6"
Overflow

That's all it gives me, and the shuts down. I've tried various discs, ripping in file mode, iso mode and then mounting with Daemon Tools, but no matter what I do, I can't even load a DVD into DVD-RB at all.

I did try all of this on my laptop, and it works fine there, but on my main computer (nforce2 board), it just gives me that error everytime I try to load a DVD. Any ideas as to what could be causing this?

[dancis]

I tried Terminator 2 last night , where i did get the buffer overflow error 0004 the first time it goes oke , but now at another point , it is giving the buffer overflow error 0003.

This happens with rb v0.45 , CCe 2.50 with elcce 1.81

Will try Tombraider 2 tonight , got an 0004 also with that movie , see if this one doesn't come back

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Masao
Don't know if anyone else is having this problem or not, but whenever I even try to load a DVD into DVD-RB I get this error:

Run-time error "6"
Overflow

That's all it gives me, and the shuts down. I've tried various discs, ripping in file mode, iso mode and then mounting with Daemon Tools, but no matter what I do, I can't even load a DVD into DVD-RB at all.

I did try all of this on my laptop, and it works fine there, but on my main computer (nforce2 board), it just gives me that error everytime I try to load a DVD. Any ideas as to what could be causing this? What version? What utilities? CCE? QUENC? REJIG?

I'm pretty sure it's a configuration problem -- but I don't know what you're using.

[Masao]

Sorry, should have listed all that stuff to begin with.

DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? YES
AviSynth Version : 2.54

I don't think it's a configuration problem though as I copied over everything exactly the same to my laptop, and it worked just fine there. No matter what I choose, either CCE, QUENC, or REJIG, it gives me the same error all the time.

Anyother info you need that might help pin point things at all? It's driving me crazy though, I just can't figure out what's causing this error. I've gone through and reinstalled everthing from start to finish time and time again, and I still get the same overflow error.

[robgarib]

DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? YES
AviSynth Version : 2.54
Test with "Kill Bill Vol.1 - region 2"
Until version 0.40 no problems.
From 0.40 to 0.45 every dvd stops at the beginning of the first chapter and jump directly to second chapter on my Philips dvd 612.
In my tests i have used dvd+rw from TDK-FUJI-PHILIPS-MEMOREX with the same results.
The same dvd encoded with Instant Copy 8 works perfectly.
Tonight i'll try with version 0.39 and i'll post you tomorrow the results.
Thanks

[Joergen]

I think I managed to do my first "stutter" disc.

DVD-RB Version: 0.44
Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
Using eclCCE? YES
AviSynth Version : 2.54

The Rock S.E. R2

This project gave me 345 segments (!!), one new segment for almost every time a scene changes. It seemed to encode fine and rebuild fine but on playback it slightly stutters usually when the scene changes (I mean where the film is cut to a new angle etc).

I knew it prolly wasnt a good sign to have ~350 segments many of which are 1MB in size :)

[RB]

Originally posted by Joergen
This project gave me 345 segments (!!), one new segment for almost every time a scene changes. It seemed to encode fine and rebuild fine but on playback it slightly stutters usually when the scene changes (I mean where the film is cut to a new angle etc).

I knew it prolly wasnt a good sign to have ~350 segments many of which are 1MB in size :)
jdobbs, this seems to be the problem I reported earlier in some detail in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=478071#post478071 I think if a cell does not consist of only I-Frames it is safe to assume that this is normal video and there's no need to split the cell into additional segments.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, this seems to be the problem I reported earlier in some detail in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=478071#post478071 I think if a cell does not consist of only I-Frames it is safe to assume that this is normal video and there's no need to split the cell into additional segments.

The disc is "special" in that it has full 7.8GB with a 60MB menu, DD and DTS tracks and a 200MB commentary track. One of the sharpest video I've ever seen and probably encoded without the "need" for I-frames?

[RB]

There are definitely I-Frames, trust me :) Just look at the D2V file I quoted in the post I linked to and compare with yours. I bet they look similar, that is, a lot of 2's on their own line.

[Joergen]

You're right!

Nothing but 22222 for a 600KB D2V :D

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000
Location=0,0,0,3E81AF

7 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 DF 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 1D4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2C5 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3C7 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 4B9 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 5A9 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 699 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 78B 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 884 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 977 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 A67 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 B61 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

etc...........

[RB]

Originally posted by Joergen
7 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 DF 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 1D4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2C5 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2

Hmm, no, that pattern is normal and expected. The first "2" on a line is an I-Frame. Even more puzzling you got such an amount of segments. What I meant was a pattern like this

2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
2
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
2 2 2 2
2
2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
....

That is, a lot of lines that only have a single 2.

[Joergen]

Sorry I've never really examined a D2V before :o ;)
There arent alot of lines with a single 2 but some

.......
7 0 2E07A 2
7 0 2E089 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E142 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E1F4 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E2A3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E35A 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E41E 2
7 0 2E43E 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E52C 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E618 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E715 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E817 2 2
........

and then more with 2 2 and 2 2 2

[RB]

I bet there are around 345 lines with a single 2...

[brikin]

DVD Rebuilder 0.45
CCE 2.66 Trial

I am backing up X2 and was getting the 0004 error. Now the rebuild completes. When I press play the begining of the movie starts but there is no sound. When it makes it past were the second m2v file would end the video just stops. If I go to the next chapter everything starts playing fine. If I rewind to the part that messes up it basically stops playing like it did before.

If you need to know anything else let me know.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by RB
I bet there are around 345 lines with a single 2...

If you want to examine it I rarred it up for you.

http://rbfarm.is.dreaming.org/for_rb.rar (leftclick)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
I bet there are around 345 lines with a single 2... Either that or 345 different cells.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
DVD Rebuilder 0.45
CCE 2.66 Trial

I am backing up X2 and was getting the 0004 error. Now the rebuild completes. When I press play the begining of the movie starts but there is no sound. When it makes it past were the second m2v file would end the video just stops. If I go to the next chapter everything starts playing fine. If I rewind to the part that messes up it basically stops playing like it did before.

If you need to know anything else let me know. Any preprocessing with another product? Has it worked in your configuration with another DVD?

[jhmac]

Originally posted by jhmac
I will do "The Hunt For Red October" again tonight and see if there any improvements...

Thanks!

I just finished "The Hunt For Red October" again and the audio still goes out of sync with v0.45.

DVD-RB v0.45
2.67 CCE Basic
Convert 4:3LB to 6:9

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jhmac
I just finished "The Hunt For Red October" again and the audio still goes out of sync with v0.45.

DVD-RB v0.45
2.67 CCE Basic
Convert 4:3LB to 6:9

Thanks! Does it do it gradually over time and then click back at the next chapter (I think that's what I recall)? I'm still trying to figure out why it would do that on certain discs. I've only seen it once, and it was very slight.

Does "The Hunt for Red October" have a large synch drift that's easy to see? If so I'll buy a copy just to get to this problem.


EDIT: Forgot to ask -- are you NTSC R1 by any chance?

[DDogg]

Jdobbs, That brings up a question. I've noticed out of sync on my old Apex 503 after FF. A quick FR fixes it up, but it reminded me of a problem I have seen many times on SVCD when muxing was done by other than BB Avi2mpeg2 muxer (which is the gold standard in my mind). The Apex was a particular, and could always identify a funny mux. I'm not suggesting yours is, but I can just about guarantee you if I demux and remux with BB, it will not do this. I'm thinking if you compared the 'structure' of the two muxes to see if there is any difference? In fact, how do you mux the streams back together now out of curiosity?

[wfiguero]

DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
Apex AD-1500

Some stutter. It Happens in the two movies that I encode using these version of DVD-RB and only in some chapters. If I jump to the next chapter and then rewind back to the previous chapter and press play , when the movie reach the chapter from were I rewind back its begins to stutter.

If I jump from chapter to chapter it plays fine without stutter. Normal play don't show any stutter its seems to happen only when I use rewind.

I tested a movie that I made with DVD-RB v0.44 and don't have this problem. I will try to do other movie with both versions and see what happen.

[robgarib]

Dvd: Kill Bill vol. 1 R2
Dvdrb 0.39 +cce sp 2.67.00.23 + eclcee 1.8.1
In my test with version 0.39 i've experienced the same problem:
On Philips dvd 612 at the beginning of chapter 1 the dvd stops and then go directly to chapter 2.
But the dvd encoded with the older versions work perfectly, so now i'll try to come back to version 0.37a (the older version that i have found at the moment) for a new test tonight. But i'm not a programmer and i'm not able to fix the bug; the only thing that i can do is testing if the program works.
Then when i find a working version i'll use it until jdoods writes a new version without this bug.
I inform you that several guys write me private mails because experienced the same bug. It seem happens only with Philips dvd racks.
Bye

[jurij]

I'm using dvd-rb 0.45

I have found a bug:
-i choose to resize half D1 VTS02 and VTS03
-I save the project.
-i close dvd-rb
-i open dvd-rb
-i load the project i just saved

VTS02 and VTS03 are not flagged in resize half D1 menu.
is that done on purpose?

[brikin]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Any preprocessing with another product? Has it worked in your configuration with another DVD?

Sorry I did put it through DVD Remake. Others I have done with Remake have worked great. I will try the original tonight.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
Jdobbs, That brings up a question. I've noticed out of sync on my old Apex 503 after FF. A quick FR fixes it up, but it reminded me of a problem I have seen many times on SVCD when muxing was done by other than BB Avi2mpeg2 muxer (which is the gold standard in my mind). The Apex was a particular, and could always identify a funny mux. I'm not suggesting yours is, but I can just about guarantee you if I demux and remux with BB, it will not do this. I'm thinking if you compared the 'structure' of the two muxes to see if there is any difference? In fact, how do you mux the streams back together now out of curiosity? The problem is you really can't compare the two. Unlike one of the transcoder packages, DVD-RB reauthors completely. The new video is reauthored into a DVD compliant stream from scratch and then the original audio/sub picture streams as merged in appropriately with timing values adjusted to match the video source.

What makes this audio drifting so strange is the fact that I am using the original audio and it is being placed pretty much in the same temporal position as the original DVD. Since it only happens on a few DVDs it can be implied that there is some "special" circumstance that I haven't considered.

[Joergen]

Perhaps the elusive "stutter" and whats left of it, works differently in some players so that the image stays smooth but the audio creeps out of sync (where other players jerk the image to keep sync with audio). :(

[the-warriners]

I'd say that theory is worth looking into further.

[danjx]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.23
3. ECLCCE version: 2.67.0.25
4. Bug encountered: KILL BILL NTSC, Audio_01 6-ch AC3 only;
Half-D1 and Half Space on extras ;
5. Settings: One Click Mode, CCE Mode, Verbose Status,
Dynamic assignment of cell bitrates,
Half-D1 and Half-space for Extras, CCE 4-pass
6. Result: Program ended and closed, displaying Error 9 in small
dialog
7. Comments: Since the program closed, I don't know where the error
occurred. I'll run again to see it I can be more precise.

Later: The Item.ecl file shows this bit of info:
[item]
title=V05000100002001

From the file datetime stamps, it would appear it was working on V05000100002001.vaf and V05000100002001.m2v

I don't know what pass it was on, but the last file changes occurred 3.5 hours after the start of processing. CPU is P4 3.06HT with 256MB.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Perhaps the elusive "stutter" and whats left of it, works differently in some players so that the image stays smooth but the audio creeps out of sync (where other players jerk the image to keep sync with audio). :( That's kind of the theory I was working with when initially chasing the stutters. Software players have a tendency to sync off the audio tracks (in case they can't keep up with video) and standalones sync off of video. If everything works okay you can't tell anyway. I sometimes wonder if the occasional stutter is associated with a player that uses the software paradigm... all speculation though.

[dancis]

Did tombraider 2 today , wich gave a buffer overflow error , and now it goes oke ! so this one is solved.

I am going to try terminator 2 once again , but this time i will leave out the DTS sound track. This one also didn't work with RB 0.45

So one solved , one to go!

[nwg]

I be surprised if T2 worked ok. It has seamless branching if it is the R1 Ultimate Edition.

A way out would to use DVD Shrink and reauthor one version of the film.

[jhmac]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Does it do it gradually over time and then click back at the next chapter (I think that's what I recall)? I'm still trying to figure out why it would do that on certain discs. I've only seen it once, and it was very slight.

Does "The Hunt for Red October" have a large synch drift that's easy to see? If so I'll buy a copy just to get to this problem.


EDIT: Forgot to ask -- are you NTSC R1 by any chance?

Yes it does it gradually, At the start of the movie all is fine but as it goes the audio goes out of sync the longer the chapter the more its off, at chapter point it syncs up again. I have noticed that the video seems shorter in time because the mouths move before the audio (if thats make sense) is heard. It is very noticable...

NTSC R1
Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9
2.67 Basic
V0.45

Thank you for your time JDobbs!

[sup191]

DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
DVD: Fletch Lives NTSC R1

I have an audio sync problem on just chapter 11 of this DVD. All the other chapters are flawless. I noticed the problem when using InterVideo WinDVD 5 (newest updated version), and am playing the movie off my hard drive. When I play chapter 11 from the original directory that I dumped it to, it plays perfectly. Any clues?

I haven't touched the directory after running the one click, so if you need any info from there, let me know.

[Msc_Alex]

JDobbs well after about 15 backups I found an other Hiccup, while watching the extra’s after about a minute Quentin Tarantino is badly lip syncing (1 sec.), just before it happens you can see the movie speeds up ~0.1 sec then after a while (next cell?) it’s ok again. (Power DVD)

Made a backup with RB 30, 31 and they were OK then 45,44, 42, 38, 35 they showed the lip sync
I looked at the history and think it happened here:

Apr 10th, 2004 (v0.33) there were many changes, I don’t have any versions between 31-35 can’t check it.

I took a look in the VTS_02_0.IFO

Ifoedit (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5691/ifoed.jpg)

It looks like 27 cells
Version 31 creates 27 AVS files
And
Version 45 creates 32 AVS files ?:confused:
The sync problem happens in this or after this cell
Version 31
File: V02000100001002.AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:02
#------------------
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD_Programes\Frame_servers\Avisynth\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVDS\RES\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(812,2424)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)



This is what happens in Version 45 (and probably the rest)
File: V02000100001002.AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:02
#------------------
LoadPlugin("D:\DVD_Programes\Frame_servers\Avisynth\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\DVDS\RES\D2VAVS\V02.D2V")
trim(812,896)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Looks a bit shorter, cell problem

[azad]

DVD-RB 0.4x seems to have a problem with reading or "rebuilding" the correct subtitle timecodes.
After rebuilding the second disc of "LOTR - The Two Towers - SEE" PAL RC2 I noticed that the
forced subtitles are being displayed with a small delay compared to the original DVD. You can also
see that there is a small difference between what the character just says and the time the subtitle
is displayed.
I used VobSub to compare the timecodes of the original DVD and the backup done with DVD-RB.
The difference between each timecode of the original and the backup is +80ms.
Following are some examples of the original and the backup subtitle timecodes read out with VobSub:

Original:
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 1 (PTS: 0)
timestamp: 00:00:04:760, filepos: 000000000
timestamp: 00:00:07:680, filepos: 000001000
timestamp: 00:00:11:360, filepos: 000002000
timestamp: 00:00:14:560, filepos: 000003000
timestamp: 00:00:16:760, filepos: 000003800
timestamp: 00:00:19:080, filepos: 000004800
timestamp: 00:00:21:000, filepos: 000005000
timestamp: 00:00:27:080, filepos: 000006000
timestamp: 00:00:35:040, filepos: 000006800
timestamp: 00:00:37:600, filepos: 000007800
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 2 (PTS: 41680)

Backup:
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 1 (PTS: 0)
timestamp: 00:00:04:840, filepos: 000000000
timestamp: 00:00:07:760, filepos: 000001000
timestamp: 00:00:11:440, filepos: 000002000
timestamp: 00:00:14:640, filepos: 000003000
timestamp: 00:00:16:840, filepos: 000003800
timestamp: 00:00:19:160, filepos: 000004800
timestamp: 00:00:21:080, filepos: 000005000
timestamp: 00:00:27:160, filepos: 000006000
timestamp: 00:00:35:120, filepos: 000006800
timestamp: 00:00:37:680, filepos: 000007800
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 2 (PTS: 41680)

[jurij]

hello, i would like to post a new bug:

DVD-RB 0.45

I backuped The Mummy
It has 2 VTS of extras (about 1.5 GB) and i choosed half D1 resolution+half bitrate on them.
the result was a 4.488.784.456 bytes DVD.

Can that be so much undersized?
Did anyone noticed my last post about "no VTS flags" in the "half D1 resolution menu" when loading a saved project?

THANX for your patience... :)

[dancis]

Just finished terminator 2 (region 2) without the DTS sound track and now it finishes without any problems. Can the DTS sound track cause the buffer overflow error???

[danjx]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.23
3. ECLCCE version: 2.67.0.25
4. Bug encountered: Error 9, Subscript out of range
5. Settings: KILL BILL NTSC, Audio_01 6-ch AC3 only;
Half-D1 and Half Space on extras ,
One Click Mode, CCE Mode, Verbose Status,
Dynamic assignment of cell bitrates,
Half-D1 and Half-space for Extras, CCE 4-pass
6. Result: Program ended, displaying Error 9 in small
dialog, then closed when I clicked OK in the dialog.
7. Comments: Processing VTS_02
-Rebuilding segment 2 VOBIS:3 CELLID:1
____________________________________________
The Item.ecl file shows this bit of info:
[item]
title=V05000100002001

From the file datetime stamps, it would appear it was working on V05000100002001.vaf and V05000100002001.m2v

I'll now try without half-D1 and half space on extras
CPU is P4 3.06HT with 256MB.

[danjx]

OK, I unchecked the Half-D1 Half Space option, deleted all the work files and hit Transcode again. Everything went well, but I cannot burn the result. I can play it from the hard drive, but when I try to burn it (Nero 6.3.0) I get the following:

DVD-Video files reallocation started.
File'VTS_02_0.VOB' is not referenced and should not be present
DVD-Video files reallocation failed.

Does anyone have a suggestion?
I have not seen anyone report something like this.

[robot1]

Try deleting the file VTS_02_0.VOB (and do a "Get VTS Sectors" in Ifoedit, to be safe).
Anyway, you could burn with no problem even with that file. Test on a RW.

[VampHuntD]

And don't use Nero, it's bad for DVD

[tf]

That's not true. Nero 6.3.0.0+ works FINE for DVD. I've done over 100 DVD backups burned with Nero and they ALL work as they should.

-tf

[Fr4nz]

Having or not that vob is ininfluent: just burn the dvd and ignore any warning.

[daxab]

DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
Using eclCCE? Y
DVD: Big Fish R1

DVD Decryptor 3.2.2.0

Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range

Log:
...
- Updated IFO: VTS_09_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_10
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by daxab
DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
Using eclCCE? Y
DVD: Big Fish R1

DVD Decryptor 3.2.2.0

Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range

Log:
...
- Updated IFO: VTS_09_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_10
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

Check the bitrate of this particular segment, if it's under 1000bps, put 1500bps, reencode, then rebuild. It always worked for me. (if the cell can be at 1500bps without increasing too much the space...)

[lab-one]

@daxab

PAL or NTSC? I backed this up with the same using CCE SP 2.50, DVD Decryptor file mode, NTSC R1. No problems at all.

[lab-one]

@sapstar

I have run into that using ECL Optimiser, lowered the bitrate on extras to below 1000 and CCE hangs during the encode. It will hange forever until it is cancelled. Upped the BR to 1200 and it went fine. Does CCE not handle BR's below 1000 well?

[daxab]

@lab-one
NTSC R1.

@SAPSTAR
Here's what the .ecl says:
vbr_brate_avg=879
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
So I can't very well put the min at 1500. Hmm.

But then I'm looking at the previous VTS (9), and I see:
vbr_brate_avg=1123
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
And that worked fine.

I have "Half-D1 and Half Space For Extras" checked.

[lab-one]

@daxab

I did not use the half d1 option. However, CCE hung on VTS_09 when I had it under 1000 BR. When I redid it above 1000 BR, it worked fine.

[daxab]

Ok, I re-encoded the troublesome cell with a new minimum (100 instead of 0). This got rid of the first error. Now I have a new interesting failure, apparently in a later cell in the same VOB:

"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer."

The log says:
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID:1 CELLID:8
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...

[jdobbs]

I need a general concensus on this... should I set the average bitrate to something above 1000? Just a warning -- if you are planning to tell me to set the minimum bitrate above 1000 it would be a waste of breath...

Should it be set only for Half-D1 or all encodings?

The reason I hesitate on this is that I have been encoding with a minimum bitrate of 0 since I got my first copy of CCE back in 2001 and I've never had it fail due to a low bitrate... That includes DVD material, half-d1 material, SVCD material, and even VCD... my instinct is telling me there is something else wrong here.

I do have an open mind, though.

[daxab]

I am trying to get past the "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer." error by reencoding with a different minimum bitrate -- and it seems to help, but then triggers another problem.

I reencoded the cell where the problem was (vob 10/cell 1), but then a new failure appeared in a later cell in the same VOB (as noted previously). Reading the log, it appears that the reason the "Error in UpdateIFO" happens is because, the first cell is now skipped -- it starts with segment 1/vob 10/cell 2 instead of segment 0/vob 10/cell 1.

[VampHuntD]

Originally posted by tf
That's not true. Nero 6.3.0.0+ works FINE for DVD. I've done over 100 DVD backups burned with Nero and they ALL work as they should.

-tf

Yes it works, however you are way more liekly to have issues with it later that's all. Nero does funky stuff regarding dvd structure.

[daxab]

Update: I re-encoded the first cell, the one that originally caused the Run-time error 9. This time, instead of a minimum of 100, I used a minimum of 500.

The rebuild finished!

I'm not 100% sure that there isn't something else going on, because while trying to make this work I re-encoded every other cell in the VOB as well. But this seems to be what made the difference.

[jdobbs]

I think it is very possible that this whole bitrate chase might be a snipe hunt. So far I hear it being blamed for "this shouldn't happen" error -- which can only happen when someone is messing with the source files between passes. I here it is causing '9' errors, which aren't really related at all to the bitrate (unless the output is 100% bad -- which would be easy to recognize as the .M2V files wouldn't play either).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by daxab
Update: I re-encoded the first cell, the one that originally caused the Run-time error 9. This time, instead of a minimum of 100, I used a minimum of 500.

The rebuild finished!

I'm not 100% sure that there isn't something else going on, because while trying to make this work I re-encoded every other cell in the VOB as well. But this seems to be what made the difference. Could you do me a favor and recode that section at 100 and see if it can be played back using Windows Media Player?

[daxab]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think it is very possible that this whole bitrate chase might be a snipe hunt.Right. One possibility is that when the person re-encodes, the reason it helps is because they overwrite a bogus .mpv file with a good one -- and that the minimum bitrate has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by jdobbs
Could you do me a favor and recode that section at 100 and see if it can be played back using Windows Media Player?I'm redoing the entire encode right now (it was undersized by 200MB). Should be done tomorrow AM. If I run into the same problem again, I'll try viewing the .mpv file in Windows Media Player with min=0, min=100, and min=500, and see if there is any difference.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think it is very possible that this whole bitrate chase might be a snipe hunt.

I think you may be right there. I've only encountered #9 once and all I did was re-encode the segment causing the error and rebuild (and it worked). I didn't change anything from previous encode, just copied the job out of the rebuilder.ECL and pasted into item.ecl, then encoded the job manually with CCE.

[robot1]

I have error 9 in 1 DVD using Rejig engine.
If I use the original cell (renaming it from MPV to M2V) I get an
"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer."
(Why, that's the original structure???)
If I reencode the cell with CCE the rebuild finish without problem.
Anyway, both rejigged cell and original cell plays with no problem in Windows Media Player.

[jdobbs]

The '9' error on REBUILD that seemed to be related to bitrate was found and fixed and will be posted in Version 0.46. It was caused by a group of reference frames that all coexisted in the same output sector... CCE was at no fault whatsoever -- my code was checking against an incorrect index value.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by azad
DVD-RB 0.4x seems to have a problem with reading or "rebuilding" the correct subtitle timecodes.
After rebuilding the second disc of "LOTR - The Two Towers - SEE" PAL RC2 I noticed that the
forced subtitles are being displayed with a small delay compared to the original DVD. You can also
see that there is a small difference between what the character just says and the time the subtitle
is displayed.
I used VobSub to compare the timecodes of the original DVD and the backup done with DVD-RB.
The difference between each timecode of the original and the backup is +80ms.
Following are some examples of the original and the backup subtitle timecodes read out with VobSub:

Original:
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 1 (PTS: 0)
timestamp: 00:00:04:760, filepos: 000000000
timestamp: 00:00:07:680, filepos: 000001000
timestamp: 00:00:11:360, filepos: 000002000
timestamp: 00:00:14:560, filepos: 000003000
timestamp: 00:00:16:760, filepos: 000003800
timestamp: 00:00:19:080, filepos: 000004800
timestamp: 00:00:21:000, filepos: 000005000
timestamp: 00:00:27:080, filepos: 000006000
timestamp: 00:00:35:040, filepos: 000006800
timestamp: 00:00:37:600, filepos: 000007800
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 2 (PTS: 41680)

Backup:
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 1 (PTS: 0)
timestamp: 00:00:04:840, filepos: 000000000
timestamp: 00:00:07:760, filepos: 000001000
timestamp: 00:00:11:440, filepos: 000002000
timestamp: 00:00:14:640, filepos: 000003000
timestamp: 00:00:16:840, filepos: 000003800
timestamp: 00:00:19:160, filepos: 000004800
timestamp: 00:00:21:080, filepos: 000005000
timestamp: 00:00:27:160, filepos: 000006000
timestamp: 00:00:35:120, filepos: 000006800
timestamp: 00:00:37:680, filepos: 000007800
# Vob/Cell ID: 1, 2 (PTS: 41680) I agree this could be a problem -- but not necessarily. DVD-RB reauthors from scratch... so the timestamp doesn't always match (e.g. if the video/audio streams were shifted a few milliseconds the subpicture would be also). That typically doesn't happen, but I have seen more than one original DVD whose timecodes were incorrect (I know that sounds strange - but I went in and manually calculated what they should be) that I've had to insert code in DVD-RB to find and correct.

[daxab]

DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
Using EclCCE? Y
DVD: Love Actually NTSC R1

I have Half-D1 manually selected on some VOBs. On those VOBs, the audio sync is way off: It starts out fine, and over the course of the chapter, drifts worse and worse. Appears to resync at the next cell. It's very obvious since the VOB is an extra with a guy talking.

The main movie appears to be in generally good sync, but I did notice one or two minor spots, so it might not be related to Half-D1. But these might have also been sync problems in the original movie.

[robgarib]

Please Jdobbs tell me if you made any changement in version 0.46 that can fix my problem with dvd rebuilder and Philips dvd 612?
(With the latest versions every dvd encoded with dvdrb stops at the beginning of the first chapter and jump directly to the second chapter).

[dragongodz]

jdobbs - the "bug" in the rebuilder.txt and internal readme i messaged you about before still exists. :D

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dragongodz
jdobbs - the "bug" in the rebuilder.txt and internal readme i messaged you about before still exists. :D Whoops. I thought I'd changed it right after the PM... I'll go in and change it now. :)

[DDogg]

J, as expected "IJob" finished fine using 1/2-1/2. Thanks much for dealing with that pesky '9'. Since you now have this source, I wonder if you could check the 'driving school' extra, and the following extra about minis. Using powerDVD, I have audio sync errors in both, although the second will come back into sync after a scene change at some stage.

/Add: Also out of sync on standalone. As I simply used the original disk in ISO form and hit "transcode", you should be able to recreate.

Gee, after "IJob" you will need to drink a bottle of "Good Key-an-ti", slurp, slurp, slurp.

[NobbyNobbs]

@JDobbs

If you want to test a DVD where the "Buffer overflow #0004 " still shows up, try the NTSC version of one of the Babylon 5 season 4 discs.
Have tried these both original + one version, where I have "hidden" PGC 1 in the first VTS set with DVD Remake, ( PGC 1 corresponds with the play button, so all vob/cell id´s here are reused later for the individual episodes).
I have backed it up sucessfully with the "Big Three", (after using DVD ReMake)
The last version I tried it with was 0.45, and it almost finished writing the first big VOB, it get quite a bit furthe into the rebuild process than the earlier versions.

(If you don´t own the Babylon 5 series, what are you waiting for ? anybody who likes SciFi need to own this :D :D )

[sup191]

DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.27
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
DVD: Fletch Lives NTSC R1

I have an audio sync problem on just chapter 11 of this DVD. All the other chapters are flawless. I noticed the problem when using InterVideo WinDVD 5 (newest updated version), and am playing the movie off my hard drive. When I play chapter 11 from the original directory that I dumped it to, it plays perfectly. Any clues?

I haven't touched the directory after running the one click, so if you need any info from there, let me know.

** Updated **
I posted this a few days back, but have since upgraded my DVD-RB and CCE version and get the same results. Chapter 11's audio is still off by a fraction of a second.

[wfiguero]

Originally posted by wfiguero
DVD-RB Version: 0.45
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
Apex AD-1500

Some stutter. It Happens in the two movies that I encode using these version of DVD-RB and only in some chapters. If I jump to the next chapter and then rewind back to the previous chapter and press play , when the movie reach the chapter from were I rewind back its begins to stutter.

If I jump from chapter to chapter it plays fine without stutter. Normal play don't show any stutter its seems to happen only when I use rewind.

I tested a movie that I make with DVD-RB v0.44 and don't have this problem. I will try to do other movie with both versions and see what happen.

I tried versions .44, .45 .46 with different movies and it seems that the problem only happens in the same two movies House of Sand and Fog and Hounted Mansion. It happens only in some chapters.

Thanks

[brikin]

DVDRebuilder 0.45 I am getting audio/video stutter throughout the movie. These are not at chapter points. I am also getting the audio sync problem after 10 minutes. You hear people talk then see there mouths move.

[VampHuntD]

Originally posted by sup191
DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.27
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
DVD: Fletch Lives NTSC R1

I have an audio sync problem on just chapter 11 of this DVD. All the other chapters are flawless. I noticed the problem when using InterVideo WinDVD 5 (newest updated version), and am playing the movie off my hard drive. When I play chapter 11 from the original directory that I dumped it to, it plays perfectly. Any clues?

I haven't touched the directory after running the one click, so if you need any info from there, let me know.

** Updated **
I posted this a few days back, but have since upgraded my DVD-RB and CCE version and get the same results. Chapter 11's audio is still off by a fraction of a second.

I dunno if this is true for everyone but when I play a reauthor off a hard drive in any dvd program, it seems to throw audio off, try burning to an rw disc and see if it's still there.

[robgarib]

DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
DVD: Kill-Bill Vol. 1 RC2

I have made a test with the latest version but i noticed the same error of the other versions (Dvd on my Philips dvd612 stops at the beginning of the first chapter and jump directly to the second chapter)

[Msc_Alex]

@sup191

I posted a similar problem right after your first sync post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=483776&highlight=Reservoir+Dogs#post483776)
Do you have a older version of RB (below 0.33) to check if that one works ?
And if it works, could you count the number of avs files created by the 2 versions ?
Thx

[sup191]

Originally posted by Msc_Alex
@sup191

I posted a similar problem right after your first sync post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=483776&highlight=Reservoir+Dogs#post483776)
Do you have a older version of RB (below 0.33) to check if that one works ?
And if it works, could you count the number of avs files created by the 2 versions ?
Thx


I don't keep any of the older versions when I grab the new ones. I probably will start doing so however. I can't remember exactly which version it stopped at, but I had bad stuttering problems with some early .3x versions. I could rerun it through whatever version you wan tme to if you send it to me.

[Oldeman]

DVD-RB: .46
QuEnc: .49
error during encoding at endof movie (after credits)Master and Commander:

QuEnc error popup: could not open video codec vts 06 seg 66.

pressed ok/ exit and rebuild starts and continues to the last segment then dies...

The created VIDEO_TS plays find until the end of the credits, then stops.

Relevant rebuild log...

Status]
mode=2
Progress=2
CCEType=0
Encode_Progress=67
................
[V06006500002029]
SCR=372850920.410
PTS=372912423.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=10649
Last_Sector=3686984
Reduction=67.9
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=412886858.000

[V06006600003001]
SCR=.000
PTS=45045.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=3686988
Reduction=67.9
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=90090.000

Great job on ver.46 Fixed several run time errors for me.
Its all good....:)

[nwg]

Quenc 050 doesn't seem to like DVD-RB 046. The prepare goes fine but when encoding it just does all the segments in a few seconds and Quenc doesn't appear. It finishes at 100%.

I tried Quenc 049 and it worked as expected.

[jdobbs]

That ain't good. I guess I'll need to check that tonight. My guess would be that the libavcodec.dll file (that is now separated from the EXE) is not being found.

[sup191]

Originally posted by Msc_Alex
@sup191

I posted a similar problem right after your first sync post here
Do you have a older version of RB (below 0.33) to check if that one works ?
And if it works, could you count the number of avs files created by the 2 versions ?
Thx


Both version .30 and .46 created 20 .avs files.

[deh707]

why do the subtitles come on by default on my dvd-r backup of the matrix revolutions?

i used cce 2.50 and dvd-rb .46

[lab-one]

@deh707

NTSC or PAL? What region? Any pre-processing?

[deh707]

NTSC, R1, what is pre-processing?

[lab-one]

Pre-processing...removing parts of the DVD with an app such as DVDShrink. I backed-up the same movie without any problems.

[deh707]

no, i used dvddecryptor in FILE mode to rip the entire VIDEO_TS folder

oh yeah, did u get an 0byte file Vts_02_0.VOB?

it was on the original VIDEO_TS folder, and then the backup VIDEO_TS folder