DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[quantum]

It's been brought up before, and I agree. The deinterlacing option is newbie bait and likely to generate ambiguous questions due to lack of knowledge. I think it should be buried deeper or removed.

[imd_man]

Hello jdobbs. Just wanted to say thank you for the time you put into this program. I used it on my copy of Seven last night, and it's just great! The subs came through and everything...it was sweet!

I did have a couple of quick questions though. Please excuse them if they're bad or if they've been answered already. Firstly, in the setup area where you can check all the audio that you want/don't want...does CHECKING them mean that they will NOT be on your final DVD backup? Or does it mean that they WILL show up? Stupid question I know...
Second, as I have spent hours reading through posts around here about "best" quality settings for VBR_Bias and Quality_Prec, I still don't know what a good setting to leave it on...so just out of curiosity, what do you personally do? I know you are much more knowledgeable on this stuff than I am and so your settings are probably way better than mine :)

And lastly (thanks if you're still reading), the "Add to AVS file" check box in options...should that be checked? I'm not quite sure what it does.

Thank you very much.
Best.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. v0.33
2. Rejig
3. N
4. The sound dropout is gone. No pixelation on chapter points. The only small problem I still see is ffwd/rwd thru chapters. This still causes it to skip over chapters on the standalone.

I will test the CCE project I just did.

I did not see the same skip over thing with CCE. The CCE was done on a different movie. I dont know if that could be the reason or not.

[Joergen]

I didnt notice any ffwd problemns on the standalone so I tried in windvd4 and rather amusingly, if you rewind over where the chapter changes and hit play, windvd will start playing at the start of the next chapter.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
It's been brought up before, and I agree. The deinterlacing option is newbie bait and likely to generate ambiguous questions due to lack of knowledge. I think it should be buried deeper or removed. I think you're right. I'm trying to make this simple and that one is likely to cause me headaches. Maybe I should come up with an "Advanced Options that you probably will never need so don't look here unless you're an expert" dialog?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by imd_man
Hello jdobbs. Just wanted to say thank you for the time you put into this program. I used it on my copy of Seven last night, and it's just great! The subs came through and everything...it was sweet!

I did have a couple of quick questions though. Please excuse them if they're bad or if they've been answered already. Firstly, in the setup area where you can check all the audio that you want/don't want...does CHECKING them mean that they will NOT be on your final DVD backup? Or does it mean that they WILL show up? Stupid question I know...
Second, as I have spent hours reading through posts around here about "best" quality settings for VBR_Bias and Quality_Prec, I still don't know what a good setting to leave it on...so just out of curiosity, what do you personally do? I know you are much more knowledgeable on this stuff than I am and so your settings are probably way better than mine :)

And lastly (thanks if you're still reading), the "Add to AVS file" check box in options...should that be checked? I'm not quite sure what it does.

Thank you very much.
Best. Question 1: Checking them in Setup is a way to make remove them by default.

Question 2: Leave them at the defaults and they should be fine. If you've changed them and aren't sure what the default was, edit the REBUILDER.INI file and remove them. They will go back to the default.

Question 3: That checkbox affects only the "MPEG2DEC3DG" path. Normally, if AVISYNTH is set up properly, you don't even need to worry about it. You just load MPEG2DEC3.DLL in the AVISYNTH plugin directory and it's all magic. But, unfortunately, some 3rd party software changes the registry path to "Plugins" -- so I added that path (and the checkbox) so you can force AVISYNTH to load it at the known location. I'm debating whether to just put MPEG2DEC3.DLL into my zip, get rid of that option, and force the path to the DVD ReBuilder directory. But... I'm not sure what the rules are for that -- I think I can't distribute it without the source and notices and... well it's just too complicated for me right now. :)

[jdobbs]

These threads are getting too big to bear... I got a post (somewhere from somebody) that mentioned what appears to be "forever loop" when using ReJig... and after looking for the message for a while I've decided to give up and just post a response.

I just wanted you to know that I found that error... in fact it will prevent ReJig from working at all for encoding as it will get to the second or so file and keep doing it over-and-over...

I've fixed it and will post later today.

Thanks!

[Bacardi_AVT]

I have tried every version since 0.16 to do a back-up of Chicago Reg 2 PAL, but I get an error every time.

I used this the last time I got the error:
1. 0.34
2. CCE 2.50
3. Yes
4. I get a "Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range" when re-build is scanning and building the .avs and .d2v files. When I check the work dir I can see three .avs files that seams to be complete and on that is obnly created with nothing written. I have tried to do this back-up in two different ways: in the first I use DVDdecrypter to rip an image that I then mount in daemon tools, the seconf way is that I use DVDdecrypter to ripp all the files on the DVD to a specific directory insted. either way I still get the error at the exact same place when running rebuilder. Strange since all other DVDs I have tried have worked like a charm.

Thanks jdobbs for all the work you put in to this program.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Oldeman
DVD-RB .33
Rejig
Options:
Supress warning
One click
Dynamic bit rate

Movie: Tora Tora Tora NTSC R1
Hid extras with DvdReMake.
Removed 2-channel audio tracks with DVD-RB

Run time 9 during rebuild-> Seg 24 Vob 17 Cellid 1
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:17, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07.D2V")
trim(117237,125540)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Do I need AVS options with ReJig???

I have done other movies with DVD-RB sucessfully.

System AMD 750, 256Mb, Win98SE Well this runtime '9' has to stop... I didn't have a copy of "Tora Tora Tora" -- so I'm off to the store to buy one... I like that movie and should have owned it anyway!

[dancis]

I don't know if this is my fault but i have this problem.

When i want to transcode tombraider the cradle of life R2 from the harddrive (ripped with dvd decrypter) i get runtime error '9' : subscript out of range when i hit the transcode button in one or 3 click mode.

I am using version 0.34 , cce sp 2.67 trail and eclcce 1.8b

But when i transcode it directly from the dvd there is no problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
I don't know if this is my fault but i have this problem.

When i want to transcode tombraider the cradle of life from the harddrive (ripped with dvd decrypter) i get runtime error '9' : subscript out of range when i hit the transcode button in one or 3 click mode.

I am using version 0.34 , cce sp 2.67 trail and eclcce 1.8b

But when i transcode directly from the dvd there is no problem. Something isn't copying right.

[KungFuCow]

Ive had the same thing happen with movies done with DVD Decrypter.. usually a rerip fixes the problem but it can be frustrating.

[dancis]

Now preparation goes oke , but when it wants to start to decode i get the next error , this one i never had before..........

Gdiploadimage failed : 3

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
Now preparation goes oke , but when it wants to start to decode i get the next error , this one i never had before..........

Gdiploadimage failed : 3 What the hell is that?

[dancis]

I don't know :p

But i will install everything again , and then see if the problem still comes up!

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by dancis
I don't know :p

But i will install everything again , and then see if the problem still comes up!

What are you using as a source? The actual DVD, ripped files or some sort of image mounted on a virtual drive?

[Stive]

Originally posted by Stive
V33
CCE2.5
ECL yes, 1.7
Default settings except, one-click, dynamic, suppress, CCE2.5, 3pass
Lotrings2, NTSC
Used DVDDecrypter 321 full disc

I was in the middle of the process with v33 when I saw v34 come out. Not sure v34 would be any help with the picture stutter at chapters. Original plays fine. I have burned this onto a DVDRW to play on my standalone. I don't recall ever getting any other errors since v1X, except that I can't get rid of this stutter (kind of a freeze for a split second, then restarts). Anyway, keep up the good work. I'll try version 34 and hopefully, you've cracked this nut.

Update: Just finished the same backup with v34, no improvement in chapter stutter.:( Has anyone found a workaround? Other than the stutter, the tool and results are amazing. Thanks jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
Update: Just finished the same backup with v34, no improvement in chapter stutter.:( Has anyone found a workaround? Other than the stutter, the tool and results are amazing. Thanks jdobbs. Is it audio, picture, both? This drives me crazy... especially since I have yet to have seen it. I even went to other people's houses and tried it on their players...

[dancis]

Gdiploadimage failed : 3 problem solved , i re-installed cce again and now it works fine.

:D

[insanescape]

Stive and anyone else with chapter skips:

Please list your DVD player, whether or not you've tried the disc in another player, PC, or PS2/Xbox, and finally, is DVDRebuilder the first time you've ever made an "authored" DVD - meaning, not transcoded/copied a disc?

It seems like the people having issues haven't ever made their own DVD, but have probably dvddecrypted/shrink'd a movie instead.

My take on the whole thing is it is the PLAYER that can't handle authored dvds. Doesn't seem to matter the burning program, the media, or the authoring program - chapter skips on some (usually cheap) players. When you take the same disc and put it on a toshiba, sony, playstation 2, a JVC, an Apex, and various PCs and the only one having chapter skips is the apex - it's probably the player.

Edit: These "issues" are not unique to DVDRB, which leads me to believe even more so that it's not a problem with jdobb's code.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is it audio, picture, both? This drives me crazy... especially since I have yet to have seen it. I even went to other people's houses and tried it on their players...


It is only in the video. For a written visual, it is like you see a still picture, then it kinda jumps as though it is catching up and runs as normal. All of this happens is a split second. The audio does not appear to be affected whatsoever. My DVD player is a Mintek 1600...I know...cheapie!:D

[Stive]

Originally posted by insanescape
Stive and anyone else with chapter skips:

Please list your DVD player, whether or not you've tried the disc in another player, PC, or PS2/Xbox, and finally, is DVDRebuilder the first time you've ever made an "authored" DVD - meaning, not transcoded/copied a disc?

It seems like the people having issues haven't ever made their own DVD, but have probably dvddecrypted/shrink'd a movie instead.

My take on the whole thing is it is the PLAYER that can't handle authored dvds. Doesn't seem to matter the burning program, the media, or the authoring program - chapter skips on some (usually cheap) players. When you take the same disc and put it on a toshiba, sony, playstation 2, a JVC, an Apex, and various PCs and the only one having chapter skips is the apex - it's probably the player.

Edit: These "issues" are not unique to DVDRB, which leads me to believe even more so that it's not a problem with jdobb's code.

My DVD player is a Mintek 1600
It does play dvd's using DVDShrink, IC, and other one clikers.
It has played DVD's using DVD2SVCD (dvd settings).
I do not have another standalone dvd player to test.
The reauthored dvd plays fine in the pc (using Nero Showtime).


I do have DVD2DVDR and will try that overnight(or maybe longer)to see if stutter occurs.

I agree that it appears to be player specific from reading through the threads. I don't know that I read anywhere that a high dollar DVD player was stuttering. But, if I recall what jdobbs has said before, his program is to be all inclusive (including cheapies).

[elmokiddo]

Hey,
I'm using the latest version of everything and the lastest CCE SP trial, and I'm getting an audio out of sync problem, I'm not sure but it specially seems prominent when I Fast forward or rewind.

As well, I seem to be getting some tiny audio dropouts periodically at what seems to be chapter breaks.

This is occuring on my Samsung 951HD and with Matrix Revolutions.
after more testing ill post some more results.

Thanks!
Elmokiddo

[wfiguero]

DVD-R Version: 0.33
CCE 2.67.00.11
eclCCE Yes
NTSC
Bug encountered: Player Apex stutter in chapter change and sometimes several times in the same chapter

My DVD player is a Apex AD-1500
Play dvd's using DVDShrink, DVD95Copy, and other one clickers
Played DVD's using DVD2SVCD (dvd settings) without problems.
Played DVD's authored with DVDLab without problems

My other dvd player a Panasonic A310 show much less stutter but it's show some.

My PC Liteon DVD player does not show any shutter.

Thanks

I will also like to add that the FF/REW is not working correctly. It will go to the next chapter instead of current position. The same situation that Alex Z

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is it audio, picture, both? This drives me crazy... especially since I have yet to have seen it. I even went to other people's houses and tried it on their players...

@jdobbs

V .34
CCE 2.67
ECL yes, 1.8
DVDDecrypter -> iso full disc.
Tested on "What women want", NTSC. Using Windvd 4. (Time line 0:13:03-0:13:07)


First, the stuttering problem may occur at any point not just chapter brake. Tested from RB .16-.34. Made me believe mpeg2dec3dg.dll (dated 10/2/03) is responsible. I did the same movie but with mpeg2dec3.dll (dated 07/28/03). No stuttering so far. What are the disadvantages using mpeg2dec3 instead of mpeg2dec3dg?

Second, FF/REW is still not working correctly. It will go to the next chapter instead of current position.

az

.

[candsh]

AMD 1400mhz
Promise Raid-0
1 Gig Ram
Radeon 7500 64 MB DDR
CCE- Basic
Movie: Cast Away
DVD-RB v.34

Made a copy of this movie way back with version 14.....16 with Rejig. Came out movie only and was perfect. Ordered a CCE-Basic and encountered every problem known to mankind. Lock-up, Blue Screen. Errors 004, 0009 and others I can't remember.

I remembered that with Instant Copy it would ask for a different screen resolution so I decided to try that here. Changed from 800 x600 to 1152 x 864. Sat and watched it go through all the moves expecting to see a crash or something at any second. Went through the entire process flawlessly!! Loaded the files into Nero 6 and it loaded without complaint, burned and played back on Win DVD. Tried the FFwd and Rew everything was perfect..... menu's, warnings, Audio perfect and no stuttering, no skips in the video or audio.

Will play back tomorrow on the stand alone (Pioneer DV-C36) but if it plays on the computer I am confident it will play thru an 8' screen projector. It will show any flaw and I will be watching to see if anything is there.

Right now I am very excited again over this program!!

[nwg]

Alex Z wrote,
First, the stuttering problem may occur at any point not just chapter brake. Tested from RB .16-.34. Made me believe mpeg2dec3dg.dll (dated 10/2/03) is responsible.

This is the second time I have heard this.

I am going to try it with Matrix Revolutions to see if the stutter goes away.

[acido]

1. DVD-R Version: .34
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23, ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered: encode process looping on VTS_01 segment 01 with Rejig
.
As you can see below something is broken with Rejig:
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 12:36:24
- VTS_01: 2,867,188 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Video demultiplexing...
-- Processed 186,266 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 65.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,527Kbs
- HIGH/LOW Cell Bitrates: 4,118/819 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 12:45:23
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Now Encoding with CCE and don't have this problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
1. DVD-R Version: .34
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23, ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered: encode process looping on VTS_01 segment 01 with Rejig
.
As you can see below something is broken with Rejig:
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 12:36:24
- VTS_01: 2,867,188 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Video demultiplexing...
-- Processed 186,266 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 65.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,527Kbs
- HIGH/LOW Cell Bitrates: 4,118/819 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 12:45:23
- Reducing filesize for VTS_01 segment 00
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Now Encoding with CCE and don't have this problem. Bad mistake on my part. I cut and pasted some code into the loop when working on Pause/Resume and (sigh...) reset the loop controlling variable in the middle of the loop.

Bottom line: I screwed it up and have since fixed it. You'll see a fix posted in the next few minutes.

[jdobbs]

A new version (0.35) has been posted with a couple of bug fixes. See the first message of this thread.

Please also note, that per a suggestion, I am changing the title of the "Comments and Suggestions" thread each time I post an update so you can easily see it from the "One Click DVD backup solutions" page.

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
A new version (0.35) has been posted with a couple of bug fixes. See the first message of this thread.


Sorry but that link isn't working, it says "invalid attachment specified" :(

[jurij]

u sure the link works?

"Invalid attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster"

[brikin]

I am still getting the 004 buffer overflow error with .34 in the Rebuild phase. The m2v this is happening on is a still frame opening up the avs file shows the trim (5677,5677) command.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Sorry but that link isn't working, it says "invalid attachment specified" :( It works for me. What browser are you using?

[SteveV]

Same error here using IE6

[jurij]

we all use explorer

[jdobbs]

DOH!!! Sorry, dumb-ass mistake. I hadn't validated the attachment yet. I guess it was working for me because I'm a moderator. It should work now.

[SteveV]

Thank you it works now
Gonna test a title right away with it.

[jikchung]

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.33
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y (v 1.7)
4. Bug encountered:

Just did Highlander Season 2 disc 2 again with version 0.33 and got no video stutter this time. Reprocessing it now with different CCE settings, so we'll see if it comes out good again. Still getting improper display of elapsed times/chapter # not updated with RW/FF.
My Player is an Apex 5131, never encountered this issue before with any DVD and I have personally authored many (home movies, instructional videos, etc.) as well as using Shrink, DVD2SVCD and others with no issues.

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

Q4. I set everything up -- but nothing seems to happen and/or I get video that is a black screen with orange/red lines at the bottom.

A4. You probably are having a problem with the location of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. In the installation instructions (see the REBUILDER.TXT file) it tells you to put that file in the AVISYNTH Plugins directory. That should work. But some 3rd party software designers (bless their hearts) have decided to change the AVISYNTH registry entry to another location... You fix that by entering the setup dialog of DVD-RB and pointing directly to the MPEG2DEC3.DLL file -- also, click on the "Add to AVS File" checkbox.



This is somewhat confusing because of the 2 different file names used. It has come up a couple of times and I recall in early testing stages I personally was using MPEG2DEC3.DLL and then later changed it to MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL once the option was added to DVD-RB setup. Please calrify, which file is it exactly that I should point DVD-RB to? (If memory serves me correctly, MPEG2DEC3.DLL is used in apps such as gordianknot...also, when looking through cce forums I see much reference to MPEG2DEC3.DLL but not MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. However, this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63593&highlight=MPEG2DEC3.DLL) post seems to say the contrary.) It appears that MPEG2DEC3.DLL first came up here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=458729&highlight=MPEG2DEC3.DLL#post458729) in regards to DVD-RB.

Would having the wrong file cause problems? (IE. stuttering since that is the ONLY problem I am having and would love to get beyond it ). This may be the wrong thread as this is not a "bug" perse. I just need help/clarification/guidance....

Thanks.:)

[JvD]

Originally posted by brikin
I am still getting the 004 buffer overflow error with .34 in the Rebuild phase. The m2v this is happening on is a still frame opening up the avs file shows the trim (5677,5677) command.

But, shouldnt this stills frame problem be removed by now Rdobbs? Doom9s first page states "DVD Rebuilder 0.34 can handle still frames (thus most if not all 004 errors should be gone)". Is it true or is the info wrong on the first page?

[Stive]

Originally posted by Alex Z
@jdobbs



First, the stuttering problem may occur at any point not just chapter brake. Tested from RB .16-.34. Made me believe mpeg2dec3dg.dll (dated 10/2/03) is responsible. I did the same movie but with mpeg2dec3.dll (dated 07/28/03). No stuttering so far. What are the disadvantages using mpeg2dec3 instead of mpeg2dec3dg?

az

.

I just tried a quick transcode and burn using the mpeg2dec3 instead of the mpeg2dec3dg and I still get the stutter.:( Audio appears ok. To be fair, I did not do the whole disk and just stripped out three chapters. Anyway, this change was not the answer for me.

jdobbs...thanks for the change to use dvdrb if the output is already to small. It makes it easier for me to test anyway.

[insanescape]

While being a solution for EVERY player, despite ones with obviously flaws, is an ideal to strive for, I worry that it may be beyond the scope of what one person can accomplish. Not knocking jdobb's skills at all (especially since mine can be compared to that of a one-armed monkey with severe brain damage), just that certain players seem to not be able to handle authored from scratch chapter breaks no matter what.

Perhaps there is a way that the chapter code is inserted into vob files from scratch opposed to how it is inserted when you bring that DVD home from the store. Maybe it's something that can be fixed with some scrutiny, maybe it isn't. Even using a different mpeg2dec3 is going to solve very little since chapter stutter is caused by other programs that don't even use it. It's probably at the vob/ifo level at this point. If anyone feels like it, take a CCE'd reauthored DVD vs a dvdshrink one and see if the way the chapter points are inserted is different, even though it should be at the exact same timepoint of the movie.

Again, I ask if anyone's had chapter stutter problems on anything else they have made from scratch. I'm talking about converting 175MB tv shows to a DVD. Or taking a 700MB xvid file and encoding it to MPG2 and throwing it on a DVD with chapter breaks. I'm going to guess that if you have, you probably have chapter stutters with those as well on the player. Also, it certainly seems like the common theme of chapter stutters has been cheap players. Sure someone's thrown out a pioneer or so, but even the big players probably have some flaws here and there.

Remember that self-authored content is relatively new in the world of DVD with regards to available to the masses. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these manufacturers never even tested authored DVDs on their machines - if they had they clearly would've seen the chapter problems.

The solution, though not a pretty one, may very well be to fork over 70 bucks for a new player. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm not optimistic.

[Joergen]

People, dont sound so demanding. It says in the readme that still frames need testing and so does everything.

1. DVD-RB Version: .34
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered: none

I just did [snip] R2 which is flagged as true progressive and the results are absolutely flawless. Compression ratio was 68% which is under what any transcoder can do satisfactory and DVD-RB once again flexes its muscles.

edit: Now tested with an age-old Panasonic DVD-A350, Sony PS2 V7, an Euroline cheapo player, Sony NS430 and some new Panasonic player the model of which I cant remember. Now, if there exists some dodgy Samsung player that would still have problems, its no concern of mine cause I dont know a single person with a Samsung player.

edit: tested with windvd4 and PowerDVD and again only problems encountered is windvd skipping to the beginning of the chapter FROM WHERE you rewind from over the chapterpoint. ie. if you're in chapter 2 and you rewind to chapter 1 and hit play it just starts to play from chapter 2 beginning instead of where you were when you hit play.

[lab-one]

@insanescape

The solution, though not a pretty one, may very well be to fork over 70 bucks for a new player. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm not optimistic.

Out of curiosity, what do people consider cheap players? For example, a Sony DVPNS725P, retails at $140. It's a single disc player that I purchased from CircuitCity. The price falls in their mid to upper range for single disc players that support DVD+R and have progressive scan capabilities. I guess I personally didn't think it was cheap when I could have went to Wal-Mart and spent $29 on an apex player.

I'm deffinetely not discouting that it could be my player that is causing the skipping. My previous Sony (I don't remember the model) wouldn't play transcoded DVD's, it was about 2 years old...possibly 3. So, maybe the new sony can handle the transcoded DVD's but can't handled authored DVD's. Hell, I don't know. This "stuttering" problem is the only issue I have right now. I am hoping that I don't need to purchase a new player. (Translation: I can't justify another new DVD player to the wife...)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by JvD
But, shouldnt this stills frame problem be removed by now Rdobbs? Doom9s first page states "DVD Rebuilder 0.34 can handle still frames (thus most if not all 004 errors should be gone)". Is it true or is the info wrong on the first page? If you read it -- it says "most if not all of the 0004 errors" -- also the name is jdobbs. As for "shouldnt this stills frame problem be removed by now Rdobbs" -- I would suggest that if you are impatient, you should write your own program and give it away for nothing.

[jdobbs]

On the stuttering issue. My personal opinion is that there is a timing issue located somewhere in DVD-RB that shows on sensitive players... it isn't the player's fault.

I have to fix it -- and will. DVD's should play on ALL drives. It's a matter of when... which is made more complicated by the fact that I can't repeat it.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have to fix it -- and will. DVD's should play on ALL drives. It's a matter of when... which is made more complicated by the fact that I can't repeat it.

Have you tried windvd4? It's the only tool I have that will show some kind of problem (the skip-to-original-chapter on rewind). Hope you can use it to test.

[insanescape]

rdobbs.. ronnie dobbs? :D

Anyway, I say we all pitch in an extra buck or two so j can buy an apex player and see the stutterring on the DVDs, it might be the only way :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by insanescape
rdobbs.. ronnie dobbs? :D

Anyway, I say we all pitch in an extra buck or two so j can buy an apex player and see the stutterring on the DVDs, it might be the only way :) I actually have an Apex 1200 and a relative's Apex 1500 that I've tested on. No stutter for me.

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by Stive
I just tried a quick transcode and burn using the mpeg2dec3 instead of the mpeg2dec3dg and I still get the stutter.:( Audio appears ok. To be fair, I did not do the whole disk and just stripped out three chapters. Anyway, this change was not the answer for me.

jdobbs...thanks for the change to use dvdrb if the output is already to small. It makes it easier for me to test anyway.


Agree, I watched the whole movie again (done with mpeg2dec3) and I saw stuttering but at different timeline. And it stutters more often.

[insanescape]

Oddness.. Though I guess the code has to respect its author.

[Acerjen]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.35
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5 with ECL 1.8
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

I am using DVD-RB on X2: X-Men United. The audio studdering
I heard before is gone, but seral times throughout the movie,
audio will go out of sync. Then the next chapter is back in
sync and will eventually go back out of sync. I retested
using an older version of DVD-RB (version .26), which is the
version I used a couple of weeks ago to test, and the audio
sync is fine.

I am curious if anyone else has had any audio sync issues?
If so, were you able to change any settings or anything
to make it work?

Thanks in advance for any help and ideals. Also, thanks
goes to Jdobbs for an excellent tool. Thanks.



Later,
Acerjen

[Rombaldi]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have to fix it -- and will. DVD's should play on ALL drives. It's a matter of when... which is made more complicated by the fact that I can't repeat it.

you need to have people add one more thing to their bug reports

5: make/model of player tested on

[quantum]

Originally posted by Alex Z
Agree, I watched the whole movie again (done with mpeg2dec3) and I saw stuttering but at different timeline. And it stutters more often. Sound like a media and player problem. Does the same disk processed with DVDShrink play perfectly every time?

[insanescape]

quantum: A disc shrunk with DVDShrink isn't doing the same thing as reencoding and rebuilding the DVD structure. Meaning it's very likely that the original chapter points are kept the exact way they were written on the original DVD. It's the "from scratch" nature of the program that's an issue with some players.

A better question would be "Can you take an mpg2 file, put it into an authoring program, create chapters, burn it, and not get chapter stutters like you do in DVDRB?"

[Stive]

Update: I used DVD2DVDR and burned the disc to play in my stuttering Mintek. It was my first time using dvd2dvdr, so I may not have had all the settings correct (ie, ecl for cce2.5. etc.). Anyway, backing up the same disc (lotrings2 ntsc), it did not appear to stutter at chapters...thats the good news. But worse (which may have been my lack of settings (real newbie here), was that the output was "jumpy". Not sure there is a real conclusion. So, if there is a file I can look at to compare DVD2DVDR to DVDRB, it would be appreciated if someone could point me in the right direction.

jdobbs...thanks for your reinforced comments about trying to make it play on all players. I've already made a donation and will certainly anty up again when the stutter goes away.

[brikin]

Originally posted by Acerjen
1. DVD-R Version: 0.35
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5 with ECL 1.8
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

I am using DVD-RB on X2: X-Men United. The audio studdering
I heard before is gone, but seral times throughout the movie,
audio will go out of sync. Then the next chapter is back in
sync and will eventually go back out of sync. I retested
using an older version of DVD-RB (version .26), which is the
version I used a couple of weeks ago to test, and the audio
sync is fine.

I am curious if anyone else has had any audio sync issues?
If so, were you able to change any settings or anything
to make it work?

Thanks in advance for any help and ideals. Also, thanks
goes to Jdobbs for an excellent tool. Thanks.



Later,
Acerjen

X2: X-Men United is the DVD I keep having the 004 buffer overflow error on. Acerjen I guess you didn't see this problem?

JDobbs I have backed up 3 other DVD's and they work great it is just this one DVD still giving me problems.

[robot1]

Originally posted by insanescape
A better question would be "Can you take an mpg2 file, put it into an authoring program, create chapters, burn it, and not get chapter stutters like you do in DVDRB?"
It's a DVD-RB specific issue, and the author will correct it.
Many people use Big3 or other methods with CCE, and there is no stutter.

[wfiguero]

jdobbs

I read that you tested an Apex 1500 without problems. I also have an Apex 1500 and I have the stutter problem. If possible can we know your settings and if you use CCE.

Thanks for your hard work.

wfiguero

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I would suggest that if you are impatient, you should write your own program and give it away for nothing.
First of all, sorry jdobbs for not reading the main page correct. Been away for some days with my family now and in my eager to find out what has happend the quoted text and the last msg in the thread got me writing the question/msg :(
Second, sorry about spelling your sign wrong. I DO KNOW what your name is since I been around here couple of years now :D
Third sorry! I dont KNOW how to write magnificant apps like you do, thats why I, like many others, are more than glad (and donating) to see that there ARE people writing high class freeware apps. I DO admire your work AND when I read the msg again, I can understand you felt offended. Sorry!
After all "sorrys" Ill put my teeth in the new releases.

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
On the stuttering issue. My personal opinion is that there is a timing issue located somewhere in DVD-RB that shows on sensitive players... it isn't the player's fault. This assumes it is an issue with the DVD-RB output, which it may be. But considering this is a one-click forum there may be first timers here who mistake media incompatibility with a DVD-RB software issue. I've had friends who had trouble understanding they could buy blanks from Wal-Mart and they might skip and stutter in their players. That's just the nature of DVD-/+R and some players. I'm wondering if the stutterers are using Princo's.

To eliminate media questions, stutterers should process their title with DVDShrink on the same media, wether is dvd+/-r or dvd+/-rw and see if the problem goes away. If DVDShrink disks work correctly, then we can be more confident there is an issue with DVD-RB.

[lab-one]

@quantum

This assumes it is an issue with the DVD-RB output, which it may be. But considering this is a one-click forum there may be first timers here who mistake media incompatibility with a DVD-RB software issue. I've had friends who had trouble understanding they could buy blanks from Wal-Mart and they might skip and stutter in their players. That's just the nature of DVD-/+R and some players. I'm wondering if the stutterers are using Princo's.

I personally use Verbatim and also had a few Maxell laying around. Stuttering exists with both. Burn with DVD-Decrypter in ISO mode at 2X burning speed. I have no problems with DVD-Shrink transcoded discs of the same brands.

[jikchung]

@insanescape
As I said in my previous post, I have authored many types of DVD's from scratch, from 5 minute demos to 2 hour instructional videos as well as home movies. I have also used DVD Shrink, DVD2SVCD and Nero Recode. The only place I have gotten the video stutter is with DVD-RB. It is also apparently not media related in my case as I have used Ritek and Verbatim (both Ritek and MCC) -R as well as Memorex (Ricoh)+R media and Verbatim and Memorex -RW media with the testing.
I have transcoded the same DVD's with shrink (terrible quality, which is why I have such high hopes for DVD-RB) and had no play issues at all. So it doesn't seem to be the player, media or an authoring issue from where I stand.

Apex 5131 Player
Pioneer A06 Burner

[insanescape]

jikchung: Glad to hear it man, it shows I'm wrong, at least with regards to you, which is a good thing :) (I'm just throwing out possibilities)

[compusion]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.35
2. Encoder being used: ReJig
3. Using eclCCE? n
4. Bug encountered: Run-time error '9':
Subscript out of range during rebuild on School of Rock.

I've been getting runtime errors on this movie for the past several versions. The error seems to happen no matter what encoder used. Let me know if I can be of further assistance troubleshooting this one.

compusion

[Stive]

Originally posted by quantum


To eliminate media questions, stutterers should process their title with DVDShrink on the same media, wether is dvd+/-r or dvd+/-rw and see if the problem goes away. If DVDShrink disks work correctly, then we can be more confident there is an issue with DVD-RB.

I am a newbie from the standpoint of "true authoring" which, is what I understand CCE is doing from reading the threads. I have "played with" dvd2svcd, but gave that up as the output was ok, but most of the time equal to shrink, etc. Generally, I'm a movie only kinda guy and could give a rats about trailers, documentaries, and even menus. I figured at some point in time, I could probably rip the movie out with Shrink and DVDRB the movie and have the best of both worlds. As a side statement...just so you don't blame shrink, my stuttering is from all files from Decrypter or non-shrink.

I have used DVDShrink several times (40ish) (as well as some dvd2one and clonedvd) and have not had this issue with stuttering on my Mintek. In fact, there have be no issues except for pixelation in low compressions (normal I guess). But, that is not to say that Mintek can not handle "real authored" dvd's such as CCE is performing. Somehow, I think it can.

I guess, being a newbie, I probably should not have been envolved this early as I don't know exactly what I am doing and more importantly, how I can help to fix. I apologize to jdobbs, as I have brought the "stuttering up a couple times" after a few releases. I know it is beta, and am not trying to be say anything different. I've been impressed, well that is a gross understatement, with the program and jdobb's work ethic.

Finally, my guess is, the masses have cheapie equipment like me. At least I can say that with 97.83% accuracy.
:D

[nwg]

I redid the only disc that has the stuttering with DVD-RB (PAL Matrix Revolutions) with Shrink and it is fine.

I have also done it with CCE and DVD2DVD-R and the disc plays fine.

It is only my cheap Cyberhome that has the problem. My more expensive Sony has worked with every DVD-RB disc so far.

[djan]

Wow, I have a serious problem with half d1 conversion. I'm doing it for extras and they look unwatchable. The video is stretched and we see it like diagonal moving lines.

[brikin]

JDobbs,

I am having the 004 buffer overflow error and wanted to report a few things. The first file that I am having the error on is V04004100002001.m2v. I went and tried to open the file and my video player gave me an error saying it didn't recognize the file. I went to the rebuilder.ecl file and copied the section for that file and copied it into the item.ecl file. I opened this in CCE and rebuilt it with no problems. Now I can open up the m2v and play the file. DVD Rebuilder will still give me the error if I rebuild.

The V04004100002001.AVS file looks like this

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(81737,84780)
ConvertToYUY2()

This file does not trim just 1 frame.

In the REBUILDER.INF file for this file I see

[V04004100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=19270.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=3044
Last_Sector=1798290
Reduction=73.8
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0

I don't know what the SCR does but the only other places I see this set to .000 is the first avs file which is V04000000001001.AVS which looks like

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(0,-1)
ConvertToYUY2()

which has that trim(0,-1)

and the last to avs files V04009500002030.AVS and V04009600003001.AVS both of them look like this

# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:30
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(179467,179467)
ConvertToYUY2()

and

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:03, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(179468,179468)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

Both of those have a trim for a single frame. I don't know if this makes any difference but let me know if I can tell you anything else.

By the way what does that SCR represent in the REBUILDER.INF file.

Thanks for all the hard work
Brik

[smlong426]

I just encoded a movie with 0.35 beta. The video still stutters at chapter points.

[jdobbs]

SCR is System Clock Reference - it is the synchronization timer and is contained in the header of all packets. Occasionally it is reset to 0, normally at the beginning of a movie chapter. Trim(0,-1) means you have a single frame that is at the beginning of a D2V. A zero in the second position has a special meaning to the trim statement -- so a -1 is used to flag a single frame starting at 0.
Still frames aren't the only source of a possible 0004 error -- it is a captured error that indicates I've reached the end of my buffer space, and that should never happen.

[jdobbs]

Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't get stutter. I'm trying like hell to cause it and can't. This is very frustrating.

[brikin]

Thank you

Do you have any idea why when DVD Rebuilder called CCE for this avs file that it gave me a corrupt m2v file. I have done this DVD twice and both time this m2v file was corrupt. After I re-encoded this file it worked and the corrupt file and the new file were the same size.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by djan
Wow, I have a serious problem with half d1 conversion. I'm doing it for extras and they look unwatchable. The video is stretched and we see it like diagonal moving lines. Are you watching it through a player of from Microsoft Media Player or some other non DVD oriented package? It isn't unusual for it to play back elongated on one of those players. They have a tendency to want to play everything in 1:1.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't get stutter. I'm trying like hell to cause it and can't. This is very frustrating.

I havent gotten a stutter since about version .28 or so. Before that I was getting it on every chapter transition point. Ive watched several DVDs done with DVD-RB and havent seen any stutter whatsoever.

Its interesting that some people are getting stutter with certain movies while others arent and the same with some players, even like ones, not having stutter while others do. Almost makes you wonder if it comes down to individual Windows installation issues. Ive certainly seen before where polluted Windows installs make some odd things happen when working with video.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
Thank you

Do you have any idea why when DVD Rebuilder called CCE for this avs file that it gave me a corrupt m2v file. I have done this DVD twice and both time this m2v file was corrupt. After I re-encoded this file it worked and the corrupt file and the new file were the same size. It was probably corrupt because that's where it bombed on the encode. But I don't know, and it's hard to say long-distance...

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Are you watching it through a player of from Microsoft Media Player or some other non DVD oriented package? It isn't unusual for it to play back elongated on one of those players. They have a tendency to want to play everything in 1:1.

Or perhaps a player that cant handle the resolution.. unless its a player of a respectable make, then there might be something worth looking at.

[dancis]

Everytime when i want to rebuild tombraider 2 (pal) i get the overflow error.

I am going to try terminator 2 now , maybe it is tombraider that is the problem.

[tf]

Stuttering has been gone since 0.31 for me. Tested on Euroline and Pioneer DV343 standalones.

It really must be something that is only apparent on certain players, but I do agree with others that if the same project done with Shrink doesn't stutter, something goes wrong in the process of DVD-RB.

Right now I'm doing Black Books Season 1, full 8.2GB and will watch it all the way through tomorrow. Test is being done with 0.35, btw.

-tf

[Joergen]

jdobbs: Whee! I actually discovered a "bug" of sorts. I used TitlesetBlanker to blank out a video_ts.vob that was unreferenced (according to shrink) and that software renames it video_ts.vob~ (and the bup and ifo too and replaces them with its new ones.. works great). BUT, after the encode, the dvd is about the 240MB short that the video_ts.vob~ is large (although there IS a new 10KB video_ts.vob also).

Soo.. now that I know, I'll always hit "delete backups" in TitleSetBlanker, but just a tip, maybe dvd-rb could ignore all files but .vob .bup .ifo :)

edit: for more detail.. dvd-rb copied the video_ts.ifo~ video_ts.bup~ files over to the compiled VIDEO_TS dir also, EXCEPT the video_ts.vob~.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Are you watching it through a player of from Microsoft Media Player or some other non DVD oriented package? It isn't unusual for it to play back elongated on one of those players. They have a tendency to want to play everything in 1:1. I'm using WinDVD 5 Gold.

[smlong426]

Well, even if the 'stutter' isn't apparent, it is still there. On my Cyberhome player, I can't see the stuter at all. On my Zenith, it is very obvious. With PowerDVD 5.0, you can see the 'stutter' only if you are watching like a hawk. Although it appears as more of a strange, hardly even noticable, anamoly with PowerDVD, I still see it.

I would be more than happy to feed the output of my Zenith player into my capture card and show you what the stutter looks like.

Stephen

[DrVenkman]

Ah crap - I have a problem here. I got to the last file of encoding and CCE popped up as I was pressing something and it cancelled. But anyway, I encoded the file manually, checked it and everything is done now - so is there anyway I can rebuild the file? When I open up DVD-RB the option to 'rebuild' is blanked out and there is no way I want to encode it all again...any suggestions?

[jdobbs]

Okay... we don't need any more stutter talk... I know its there (even if I can't see it) and I'm trying to find out what could be causing it. I don't think there is even a debate with me -- DVD-RB is doing something that is causing the stutter and it has to be fixed. Period.

But, now that it is said... do we really need to put a new post up every time somebody sees it for the first time. I know I have a problem and I'm frustrated trying to find it -- do we really need to rub salt in the wound?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DrVenkman
Ah crap - I have a problem here. I got to the last file of encoding and CCE popped up as I was pressing something and it cancelled. But anyway, I encoded the file manually, checked it and everything is done now - so is there anyway I can rebuild the file? When I open up DVD-RB the option to 'rebuild' is blanked out and there is no way I want to encode it all again...any suggestions? Yeah. Go into the REBUILDER.INF file and make it tell a lie. Set Progress=2. You will have to point to the directory again or restart DVD-RB. I put that there because early on I had a lot of people just try to rebuild without doing the other steps...

[Joergen]

jdobbs: With a tool this great as DVD-RB, you can expect some hardships giving birth to it. If it was easy it wouldhave already been made!

I'd advice you to take backups of your sources (to CD-R!), HD's tend to blow up at the worst possible moment, at least when what youre working on is too good to be true!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
I havent gotten a stutter since about version .28 or so. Before that I was getting it on every chapter transition point. Ive watched several DVDs done with DVD-RB and havent seen any stutter whatsoever.

Its interesting that some people are getting stutter with certain movies while others arent and the same with some players, even like ones, not having stutter while others do. Almost makes you wonder if it comes down to individual Windows installation issues. Ive certainly seen before where polluted Windows installs make some odd things happen when working with video. There was a miscalculation that I fixed back then... at the time I thought I'd fixed the stutter.

[jdobbs]

I know I've asked this before... but is this reported stutter confined to chapter points (or cell points, often they are the same thing)?

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
Does DVD-RB add sequence end codes to every single video stream it creates before combining the multiple streams together? If so, that could be causing hiccups, etc.
dvdRENEGADE

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I know I've asked this before... but is this reported stutter confined to chapter points (or cell points, often they are the same thing)?


For me, the stutter has been at chapter points. Both normal watching over a chapter, and if I fast forward to a chapter and back in up a bit. But, to be honest, I don't know what a cell point is.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I know I've asked this before... but is this reported stutter confined to chapter points (or cell points, often they are the same thing)?

Some report just chapter points, but I see it at random spots, not just cell points or chapter points.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
jdobbs,
Does DVD-RB add sequence end codes to every single video stream it creates before combining the multiple streams together? If so, that could be causing hiccups, etc.
dvdRENEGADE No. It was a few versions ago. But it was pointed out to me and I corrected it.

[Gunner-GoNad]

Hi.. This is my first post. I've been using your software since the first release and love it. I tried my first 4:3 to 16:9 DVD today. It is Topgun. The encoed went through fine. When I check the VOB's they play 16:9 perfect. Now when I burn them or conver them into an ISO and play it they go to 4:3 and are squished because it has been converted. Please help. Is it better to do the whole DVD in 16:9 coversion or just the movie. I did just the movie. The menus are still 4:3. Could this be the reason? It's strange cause before I burn the VOBs themselves load up and play 16:9 perfect. Ahhh.. Frustrating. I've burned with different programs and convereted into an ISO, NRG, IMG files and mounted and they all produces the same 4:3 squish.


Other than that. All the 16:9 DVDs I do work and look perfect! This is the best program ever. Keep up the good work.


-Gunner-GoNad

Oh I did this using v0.35

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't get stutter. I'm trying like hell to cause it and can't. This is very frustrating. I'm stutter free since a few versions ago on my Pioneer standalone. My Toshiba never had stutter even with the earliest versions. I watch it fairly sharp eyed and I'm quick to notice telecide or other errors and it's been good so far.

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
should the gop structures of the dvd-rb streams match the gop structures of the originals? if so, i'm not so sure they're doing it. gop timestamps seem to be screwed as well. i demuxed a few cells of the original dvd and the dvd-rb dvd and used restream to view their structure and timestamp and they differ.
dvdRENEGADE

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
jdobbs,
should the gop structures of the dvd-rb streams match the gop structures of the originals? if so, i'm not so sure they're doing it. gop timestamps seem to be screwed as well. i demuxed a few cells of the original dvd and the dvd-rb dvd and used restream to view their structure and timestamp and they differ.
dvdRENEGADE No, the GOPs shouldn't. The timestamps shouldn't match either (they couldn't unless it was an identical GOP structure) -- it is newly authored from scratch. But the frame count should match in each cell -- and the TFF/RFF pattern should be identical.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
Hi.. This is my first post. I've been using your software since the first release and love it. I tried my first 4:3 to 16:9 DVD today. It is Topgun. The encoed went through fine. When I check the VOB's they play 16:9 perfect. Now when I burn them or conver them into an ISO and play it they go to 4:3 and are squished because it has been converted. Please help. Is it better to do the whole DVD in 16:9 coversion or just the movie. I did just the movie. The menus are still 4:3. Could this be the reason? It's strange cause before I burn the VOBs themselves load up and play 16:9 perfect. Ahhh.. Frustrating. I've burned with different programs and convereted into an ISO, NRG, IMG files and mounted and they all produces the same 4:3 squish.


Other than that. All the 16:9 DVDs I do work and look perfect! This is the best program ever. Keep up the good work.


-Gunner-GoNad

Oh I did this using v0.35 Check the IFO files for the VTSs that you've converted to 16:9 with IFOEDIT. Make sure they are being updated properly. The information should be in VTSI_MAT and at offset 200. It should say 16:9 and "Letterboxed". If they aren't coming out right that has to be it. You can change them and reburn -- but make sure you let me know if it is wrong so I know my code is screwing up.

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
When checking the first gop timestamps for the cells i've demuxed from my dvd-rb encode of Andersonville (R1), each one is listed as 0H 0M 63S 63F. The originals are listed properly, such as 2H 2M 41S 0F. Should DVD-RB be correcting these timestamps after the encoding phase. Maybe that's the cause of some of the stuttering problems.
dvdRENEGADE

[Gunner-GoNad]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Check the IFO files for the VTSs that you've converted to 16:9 with IFOEDIT. Make sure they are being updated properly. The information should be in VTSI_MAT and at offset 200. It should say 16:9 and "Letterboxed". If they aren't coming out right that has to be it. You can change them and reburn -- but make sure you let me know if it is wrong so I know my code is screwing up.


Ok this is what I have under 200 -


[00000200]
Video attributes of VTSTT_VOBS 17284 [4384]
Video attribute details:
Video compression MPEG-2
TV system NTSC 525/60
Aspect ratio 4:3
Automatic Display Mode not specified
CC for Line21-1 (NTSC only) data present in GOP
CC for Line21-2 (NTSC only) no data
Bit Rate VBR
Source Resolution 704x480 (NTSC)
Letterboxed top&bottom cropped no
Mode Camera

Looks like it isn't updating or something. How do I change this? When I click on it IFOEDIT says Item not editable.

Thanks again.

- Gunner-GoNad!
PS: Kinda newB to IFOEDIT

[wmansir]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
How do I change this. When I click on it IFOEDIT says Item not editable.

You can do this on the main "VTS overview" page that IFOEDIT displays upon opening an .IFO.

It is right near the top under "Title Set (movie) attributes", just double click on the "VIDEO: MPEG-2 720x480 ...." line and a window will pop up.

[Gunner-GoNad]

Originally posted by wmansir
You can do this on the main "VTS overview" page that IFOEDIT displays upon opening an .IFO.

It is right near the top under "Title Set (movie) attributes", just double click on the "VIDEO: MPEG-2 720x480 ...." line and a window will pop up.

Thanks wmansir. Once I changed those settings in the IFO and made the ISO image everything played perfect at the correct aspect ratio.


@jdobbs
I guess it's not updating the IFO correctly. Other than that the conversion works perfect. Looks great and works perfect for my 16:9 TV. Job well done. Thanks again for the support.

-Gunner-GoNad!

[jdobbs]

@Gunner-GoNad,

What version of DVD-RB did you use to make the conversion? There was a bug fix in v0.34.

[Centurione]

Hi, this is my first post and so hello everybody and thank you for all the useful information I got from this forum.

Now a special thanks to jdobbs for its application and for all the works he puts in it.

Now to the subject.
I started using DVD RB since version 0.21, but I always found a problem with subtitles on my standalone, not present when playing on the PC (WinDVD or PowerDVD)

So my last backup
Film: "The Monk", region R2 (PAL)
Encoder: QEnc 0.45
RB version v0.31 ( the problem was present also before )

Everything went fine, no problem at all (except an undersize, probably due to QEnc).
Seen on the PC everything was fine, I checked also subtitles (I am not an english speaker, but I like to listen films in original language, 90 % of what I see is in english, and switch on english subtitle to avoid loose too much, slang, etc ...).
Then I burnt on a DVD-RW disk and checked on my standalone ( a budget AMSTRAD 2320, that till now was able to display almost everything), and I found that I was able to select subtitles, the player showed them as present, but nothing was visibile.

Then I tried another backup with DVD-Shrink (quality was obviously inferior) but when burnt and played in this copy the subtitle were visible.

Then I made another trial ( I do not know how much valid ) and I took some of the VOB from the DVDShrink backup and inserted them into the DVD RB backub, I then used IfoEdit to correct VTS Sectors and burn this copy. Everything worked (perhaps I was lucky) and on the VOBs from DVDShrink the subtitles were present, not on the one from DVD-RB ( the IFos were the ones from the DVD-RB backup).

I am now in the process of doing another backup with 0.35 (it will take a while with my PIII/600) and now I am at work, I will check if the problem is still present.

The question is just to understand if this problem is just for my standalone (and so I will leave with that) or is present also for other people and other kind of standalones.

Thank you for the attention (and also for my poor english).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
Thanks wmansir. Once I changed those settings in the IFO and made the ISO image everything played perfect at the correct aspect ratio.


@jdobbs
I guess it's not updating the IFO correctly. Other than that the conversion works perfect. Looks great and works perfect for my 16:9 TV. Job well done. Thanks again for the support.

-Gunner-GoNad! Thanks for the excellent test and feedback. I just found the bug that caused it not to update. It's fixed and will be in 0.36. This is what betas are all about. But, that's twice I've had to fix that one... I'm getting a little sloppy in my old age.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Centurione
Hi, this is my first post and so hello everybody and thank you for all the useful information I got from this forum.

Now a special thanks to jdobbs for its application and for all the works he puts in it.

Now to the subject.
I started using DVD RB since version 0.21, but I always found a problem with subtitles on my standalone, not present when playing on the PC (WinDVD or PowerDVD)

So my last backup
Film: "The Monk", region R2 (PAL)
Encoder: QEnc 0.45
RB version v0.31 ( the problem was present also before )

Everything went fine, no problem at all (except an undersize, probably due to QEnc).
Seen on the PC everything was fine, I checked also subtitles (I am not an english speaker, but I like to listen films in original language, 90 % of what I see is in english, and switch on english subtitle to avoid loose too much, slang, etc ...).
Then I burnt on a DVD-RW disk and checked on my standalone ( a budget AMSTRAD 2320, that till now was able to display almost everything), and I found that I was able to select subtitles, the player showed them as present, but nothing was visibile.

Then I tried another backup with DVD-Shrink (quality was obviously inferior) but when burnt and played in this copy the subtitle were visible.

Then I made another trial ( I do not know how much valid ) and I took some of the VOB from the DVDShrink backup and inserted them into the DVD RB backub, I then used IfoEdit to correct VTS Sectors and burn this copy. Everything worked (perhaps I was lucky) and on the VOBs from DVDShrink the subtitles were present, not on the one from DVD-RB ( the IFos were the ones from the DVD-RB backup).

I am now in the process of doing another backup with 0.35 (it will take a while with my PIII/600) and now I am at work, I will check if the problem is still present.

The question is just to understand if this problem is just for my standalone (and so I will leave with that) or is present also for other people and other kind of standalones.

Thank you for the attention (and also for my poor english). Somewhere in the conversion process there must be a unique and rare set of circumstances that causes this. It doesn't happen often -- but it does happen. I also notice a strange anomaly when I first did "Pirates of the Caribbean." The subtitles came up in French when something with text was shown on the screen ("Beware Pirates...") -- but only then.

[puddy]

Using version .35 with CCE 2.50.
Movie is Brother Bear Disc 2 NTSC.

I chose to do everything as Half D1 except for
the main movie. Main movie turned out great but
all the half height stuff is scrambled.

Here's a screen shot:
http://stuff.wso.net/images/forum_pics/bb_half_d1.jpg

The screen shot was taken with WinDVD v5.3
Platinum. Any ideas?

Awesome utility, thank you! :)

EDIT: I posted this first by mistake as its own
thread and the system wouldn't let me remove it. Now
somebody has replied to that thread. Sorry. :(

[djan]

It is exactly the same problem I have.

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by jdobbs
No, the GOPs shouldn't. The timestamps shouldn't match either (they couldn't unless it was an identical GOP structure) -- it is newly authored from scratch. But the frame count should match in each cell -- and the TFF/RFF pattern should be identical.

@jdobbs

Observation:

Comparing source .vob files and RB's in dvd2avi shows the following:

(Comparing the same timeline. Somewhere 12-13min from the start of the movie. Movie: What women want. R1 NTSC)

Source 23.976 (Film)
RB's output is 98%-99% film.

Could this be a reason for stuttering?

[Joergen]

Could that be an overlay problem with the lines? I remember from the DivX days that some cards couldnt handle a rez. Take a screenshot in DVD2AVI in RGB MODE (so its not using overlay.. choose RGB inside DVD2AVI).

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by djan
It is exactly the same problem I have.


Maibe resolution in .ecl file does not match with resolution in .avs?

[dancis]

I tried terminator 2 last night and i still get the buffer overflow errors 003/004 with v0.35

Can someone tell me what i am doing wrong ?

this is my config:

[Paths]
Source=H:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=E:\FILM\
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\EclCCE.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
[Options]
DynamicBitrate=1
CCE=1
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=30
Quality_prec=24
eclPasses=5

i removed all old lines in regedit and then reinstalled everything again.

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
I looked over the .ecl being created by DVD-RB. I'm using CCE cce2.67.00.23 trial with eclcce. The biggest thing I notice in .ecl creation is using the old "top_first" instead of the new "offset_line=0" to set field order. Also, missing from the created .ecl's [item] section was "panscan=0" and "uscc=0". In the [file] section, it was missing "type=0".
Hope this helps,
dvdRENEGADE

[onesoul]

@jdobbs

I tried at last DVD-RB and I think it is beautiful.
One thing I detected is that LPCM audio I deselected doens't go away, I rebuilded with that mistake, the output size went fine. Then to verify I noticed that bitrate wouldn't change at process stage if I selected/deselected the LPCM but it would change if the AC3 was removed. DVD-RB can't handle LPCM for now?
The way you handle source film now is brilliant :)
I agree with ddogg to be able to insert some filter(s) if you wish, the undot() doesn't hurt for example (don't think the same about temporalsoften though but it would be user's choice anyway).

Cheers

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by puddy
Using version .35 with CCE 2.50.
Movie is Brother Bear Disc 2 NTSC.

I chose to do everything as Half D1 except for
the main movie. Main movie turned out great but
all the half height stuff is scrambled.

Here's a screen shot:
PICTURE WAS HERE

The screen shot was taken with WinDVD v5.3
Platinum. Any ideas?

Awesome utility, thank you! :)

EDIT: I posted this first by mistake as its own
thread and the system wouldn't let me remove it. Now
somebody has replied to that thread. Sorry. :( That appears to be an error message from AVISYNTH. It gets skewed because the framerate is not correct. Open one of the converted AVS files directly with Windows Media Player and see what message it is giving.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Alex Z
@jdobbs

Observation:

Comparing source .vob files and RB's in dvd2avi shows the following:

(Comparing the same timeline. Somewhere 12-13min from the start of the movie. Movie: What women want. R1 NTSC)

Source 23.976 (Film)
RB's output is 98%-99% film.

Could this be a reason for stuttering? That definitely isn't right. They should match exactly. What DVD-RB version are you using? I'm all over this... if it can point me toward the stuttering I'll be overjoyed.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That appears to be an error message from AVISYNTH. It gets skewed because the framerate is not correct. Open one of the converted AVS files directly with Windows Media Player and see what message it is giving. Hi, I have the same problem. When I open the avs file, it's played fine.

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That definitely isn't right. They should match exactly. What DVD-RB version are you using? I'm all over this... if it can point me toward the stuttering I'll be overjoyed.

The latest... .35
CCE 2.67
Source: unmodefied iso
dvd2avi 1.76.

Let me know if more info is needed.

[mosher2k]

Hi,

i have tested RB 0.35 with the PAL DVD Wacken Open Air.
I noticed that the subtitles are missed after all.
It is interesting to see that if you use the subtitle button
of the remote while playing the video the player recognizes the language of the two possible subtitles but doesn't show them.

Thanks for your big efforts to develop this great tool !

Mosher2k

[djan]

Hi,

I'm using DVDRB since the beginning and it's the first time I'm getting the run-time error '9'. It appears in the beginning of the prepare process before doing anything. I can take a shot if you wish. I'm using DVDRB 0.35 with CCE 2.50 and the movie is HERO.

Thx.

EDIT : Prepare process and not rebuild. Sorry.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
@jdobbs

I tried at last DVD-RB and I think it is beautiful.
One thing I detected is that LPCM audio I deselected doens't go away, I rebuilded with that mistake, the output size went fine. Then to verify I noticed that bitrate wouldn't change at process stage if I selected/deselected the LPCM but it would change if the AC3 was removed. DVD-RB can't handle LPCM for now?
The way you handle source film now is brilliant :)
I agree with ddogg to be able to insert some filter(s) if you wish, the undot() doesn't hurt for example (don't think the same about temporalsoften though but it would be user's choice anyway).

Cheers I don't think I have a DVD with LPCM to test. But I thought it packetized with a private stream header just like AC3 -- and assumed I could select and remove it..

Does anyone know of any special consideration I have to give a LPCM stream? Maybe its ID is in an odd format (like DTS)?

[dancis]

Originally posted by mosher2k
Hi,

i have tested RB 0.35 with the PAL DVD Wacken Open Air.
I noticed that the subtitles are missed after all.
It is interesting to see that if you use the subtitle button
of the remote while playing the video the player recognizes the language of the two possible subtitles but doesn't show them.

Thanks for your big efforts to develop this great tool !

Mosher2k

I have the same problem , and i still haven't found what is causing it.
Maybe it is a player issue , because on my samsung they don't show and on a cheap player their is no problem and everything works

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
I have the same problem , and i still haven't found what is causing it.
Maybe it is a player issue , because on my samsung they don't show and on a cheap player their is no problem and everything works I have an idea as to what might be causing it -- a shortcut I took. I've put it on my list.

[Joergen]

Keep up the good work.

See, how many tools deserve their OWN forum at doom9? Not many!

[CiViC]

just fyi, CCE crashes with a still frame on the Fushigi Yuugi Season 1 and 2 dvd's...

[Rombaldi]

@jdobbs

ok, found something bizzare here. As I said, I've used RB to 'fix' (both black level and 'oversize') some homemade discs that were recorded with both a Panasonic and Philips DVD Recorder and sat down to watch some today and see a problem..

it APPEARS that either RB isn't reading or the original MPEG streams aren't setting/indicating the Top/Bottom field first properly. On all that I've done, there is the distinctive 'flicker' of a field order wrong on panning scenes. This is NOT present in the original.

if you PM me, I'll send you both an original and an RB's of an example (since these are homemade's, I see no issue with that).

[dvdRENEGADE]

Originally posted by Rombaldi
@jdobbs

ok, found something bizzare here. As I said, I've used RB to 'fix' (both black level and 'oversize') some homemade discs that were recorded with both a Panasonic and Philips DVD Recorder and sat down to watch some today and see a problem..

it APPEARS that either RB isn't reading or the original MPEG streams aren't setting/indicating the Top/Bottom field first properly. On all that I've done, there is the distinctive 'flicker' of a field order wrong on panning scenes. This is NOT present in the original.

if you PM me, I'll send you both an original and an RB's of an example (since these are homemade's, I see no issue with that).

What version of CCE are you using? I've noticed that the .ecl created by DVD-RB is using the old "top_first" instead of the new "offset_line=0" used by newer versions of CCE to set field order. I'm not sure if that is responsible for the flicker problem or not.
dvdRENEGADE

[Rombaldi]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
What version of CCE are you using? I've noticed that the .ecl created by DVD-RB is using the old "top_first" instead of the new "offset_line=0" used by newer versions of CCE to set field order.

2.50

[Gunner-GoNad]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks for the excellent test and feedback. I just found the bug that caused it not to update. It's fixed and will be in 0.36. This is what betas are all about. But, that's twice I've had to fix that one... I'm getting a little sloppy in my old age.

Hey No prob. Thanks for making the best DVD 9 to DVD 5 tool out there. You're tool makes all others crawl on thier knees and beg for mercey! Hahaha.

One more thing. When it does convert from 4:3 to 16:9 does it change the res from 704x480 to 720x480? Cause when I manually changed it in IFOEDIT I changed it to 720x480 because the other way looked a little strange.

Thanks Again.
Gunner-GoNad!

[quantum]

Regarding the subtitles issue, for the first time I noticed what appeared to be subtitles out of position. They were too low on the screen and the last line was almost cut off. I'm unsure if this is a dvdrb issue but thought I'd post it in case it may be helpful.

[tf]

Regarding subtitles:

I just did a backup of my newly bought Black Books Season 2 (PAL R2), and it all turned out wonderfully, much like it should. Subtitles were working fine and not placed wrong. The first episode originally had subtitles both in the upper and lower half of the picture (in order not to obscure view of other text), and they worked like they should.

-tf

[Joergen]

About subtitle shifting. I remember dvdshrink being accused of the same thing, but it only happened with some specific player using the 4:3 setting (vertical squeeze). And I would imagine it is more prone to happen using the 4:3 setting than the "native" 16:9 on an anamorphic disc. At least I've never seen subs shifted and I always use an 16:9 tv.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
Hey No prob. Thanks for making the best DVD 9 to DVD 5 tool out there. You're tool makes all others crawl on thier knees and beg for mercey! Hahaha.

One more thing. When it does convert from 4:3 to 16:9 does it change the res from 704x480 to 720x480? Cause when I manually changed it in IFOEDIT I changed it to 720x480 because the other way looked a little strange.

Thanks Again.
Gunner-GoNad! I was't changing it. But since the output of the LanczosResize() command is 720 wide, I guess I should.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by tf
Regarding subtitles:

I just did a backup of my newly bought Black Books Season 2 (PAL R2), and it all turned out wonderfully, much like it should. Subtitles were working fine and not placed wrong. The first episode originally had subtitles both in the upper and lower half of the picture (in order not to obscure view of other text), and they worked like they should.

-tf Subtitles go through DVD-RB untouched.

[tf]

Apart from Closed Captions not being supported, and the strange problem with "The Eye" (PAL R2) in which subtitles disappeared when it changed from chapter 10 to 11 (a restart of the chapter worked), I've had no probs at all with subtitles :-)

-tf

[Knocks]

I just tried the .35 build and it still gives me the same problem, #0004 Buffer Overflow, as the previous versions. This occurs at Stage III, Processing VTS_01, Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1. I use CCE SP 2.67.

[nwg]

0.36 isn't working.

As soon as click on prepare it comes up with stop statement encountered and exits. It still works with previous versions.

[Paced]

Originally posted by nwg
0.36 isn't working.

As soon as click on prepare it comes up with stop statement encountered and exits. It still works with previous versions.

Same.

[onesoul]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't think I have a DVD with LPCM to test. But I thought it packetized with a private stream header just like AC3 -- and assumed I could select and remove it..

Does anyone know of any special consideration I have to give a LPCM stream? Maybe its ID is in an odd format (like DTS)? I checked in ifoedit 0.95, the Linear PCM (2 channel 48Kbps, 16bps quantization) ID is 0xa0. Is there anything else I could check? (I am an ifoedit noob). The DVD is (PAL) Robin Williams Live on Broadway (so damn funny :D ), the LPCM is over 1GByte, lol.
A question, the same DVD has a Jacket_P folder with 3 *.mp2 files of 56 Kb size, I managed to open one and appeared a picture (menu?). What is it?

[Italbar]

Originally posted by nwg
0.36 isn't working.

As soon as click on prepare it comes up with stop statement encountered and exits. It still works with previous versions.

Same here as well.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by onesoul
A question, the same DVD has a Jacket_P folder with 3 *.mp2 files of 56 Kb size, I managed to open one and appeared a picture (menu?). What is it?


It's the Jacket Picture that some players show in their background when you hit stop, or a disc-changer uses it as thumbnails to select a movie.

[kbello]

Originally posted by Paced
Same.

same :(

[onesoul]

Originally posted by Joergen
It's the Jacket Picture that some players show in their background when you hit stop, or a disc-changer uses it as thumbnails to select a movie. My player doesn't show it. Thanks for the enlightenment :)

@jdobbs
I verified in ifoedit the rebuilt dvd and the layer break is still there (didn't check at player), shouldn't it be removed? (It's frustrating to watch a disk with a pause due to layer change when it is single sided, don't you think?). I don't mean to annoy you :)

[brikin]

JDobbs do I need to do all the steps over again with 0.36 or can I just rebuild with files I encoded with 0.35? I am just asking because I am still getting my 004 buffer overflow error by just rebuilding.

Thanks
Brik

[DDogg]

yep, ditto the "stop statement" a few seconds after it starts the prepare sequence. This happens whether source is mounted ISO or file mode, cce or rejig. Should be easy to replicate.

[jdobbs]

My humble apologies to everyone. I hastily loaded the wrong executable into the zip file, uploaded, and went on my merry way. The version that was loaded was used for debugging. Please download Version 0.36a which I've just posted.

Again -- sorry. :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
JDobbs do I need to do all the steps over again with 0.36 or can I just rebuild with files I encoded with 0.35? I am just asking because I am still getting my 004 buffer overflow error by just rebuilding.

Thanks
Brik I made no changes that might affect the 0004 error.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
My player doesn't show it. Thanks for the enlightenment :)

@jdobbs
I verified in ifoedit the rebuilt dvd and the layer break is still there (didn't check at player), shouldn't it be removed? (It's frustrating to watch a disk with a pause due to layer change when it is single sided, don't you think?). I don't mean to annoy you :) I'll have to think about that. The term "layer break" that you see in IFOEDIT actually refers an STC discontinuity -- a point at which the clock is reset (usually to 0). It just happens that this sometimes occurs on DVDs at the point where it changes to the other layer. The problem is that if you actually do have a discontinuity, you'll get playback problems (stutter) by removing the flag.

Unlike some other methods that use CCE, I duplicate the form and settings of the original DVD -- including the clock resets when they happen. In order to remove the discontinuity flag I'd have to also make the clock continuous.

[DDogg]

There are two anomalies I noticed in 36a

1> With rejig clearly checked, prepare phase completed. The encode button was pressed and threw an error:"The current selected mode does not match the mode used during "Prepare" - cannot continue."

2> The encode would start if CCE was checked. However, I'm sure due to the above, when I did start encoding the abort button was borked and it threw an error. Even with dvd-rb was killed, instances of CCE kept appearing, so I had to kill rebuilder at a TM level.

Nice to see that length and aspect, thanks much, plus I replied to you on that other thing.

[DMagic1]

1. v.035
2. QuEnc
3. N
4. I got my FIRST runtime error.
Runtime error 5 during rebuilding on the last segment. The m2v was only 1k and was unplayable. The rest of the m2v files were playable. This was on a movie I've done maybe 8 times with DVD-RB with no error. I've used Rejig and CCE on this movie with v.035 with no errors before.

[JDay]

Originally posted by DDogg
There are two anomalies I noticed in 36a

Yep, had the same problems with QuEnc. Sure wish I'd kept a backup of .35...

[philos31]

Finaly I've got my first error.

Runtime error 9, subscript out of range.


1. DVD-R Version: 0.36a 0.35 & 0.28
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Bug encountered: Runtime error 9, subscript out of range.
This occurs direct after clicking the prepare button.
After the error RB shuts down, and in the working dir I have 4 files:
Rebuilder.ecl
VO1.D2V
V01000000001001.AVS
V01000000001001.FLG
The last one is empty (0 bytes)
The ECL file and the AVS file only have the header writen:

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------

This is a movie called "Ong Bak" (kind of Jacky Chan movie)

Maybe you are interested in the IFO files for further exploring?
Just give me a yell :)

[Centurione]

I noticed from other posts that the missing subtitles are not my problem only (see my previous post).
I did another backup with version v0.35 and still the missing subtitles problems appears.
Seems to be related to some kind of player (reading the replies nor budget not expensive, but just to the model).
Glad to hear that jdobbs is having an idea on that.
Keep up with the good work.

[Lazza]

Originally posted by philos31
Finaly I've got my first error.

Runtime error 9, subscript out of range.


1. DVD-R Version: 0.36a 0.35 & 0.28
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Bug encountered: Runtime error 9, subscript out of range.
This occurs direct after clicking the prepare button.
After the error RB shuts down, and in the working dir I have 4 files:

Sadly ditto here on trying to encode Cinema Paradiso (Theatrical Release)

1. 0.35 & 0.36a
2. CCE 2.50
3. Y
4. Bug encountered: Runtime error 9, subscript out of range.

Everything I've thrown at it so far has worked a treat until now too.

[dancis]

I am still getting buffer overflow errors when rebuilding , i think it is my fault.

Can it be a bad or too low memory problem? 256mb of memory is too little??

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. v.035
2. QuEnc
3. N
4. I got my FIRST runtime error.
Runtime error 5 during rebuilding on the last segment. The m2v was only 1k and was unplayable. The rest of the m2v files were playable. This was on a movie I've done maybe 8 times with DVD-RB with no error. I've used Rejig and CCE on this movie with v.035 with no errors before. You say you've used v0.35 on it before and are using v0.35 this time? Did you mean v0.36?

[Msc_Alex]

@Lazza and @philos31

have you tried this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=469288&highlight=master+bottom#post469288)

worked for me
Only look for the first I GOP in the fist VTS_0*_1.VOB


@jdobbs I still have that mini dvd (~1MB)for you that will
cause the runtime 9 problem, I know Stutter has of course
a higher prio.

[onesoul]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'll have to think about that. The term "layer break" that you see in IFOEDIT actually refers an STC discontinuity -- a point at which the clock is reset (usually to 0). It just happens that this sometimes occurs on DVDs at the point where it changes to the other layer. The problem is that if you actually do have a discontinuity, you'll get playback problems (stutter) by removing the flag.

Unlike some other methods that use CCE, I duplicate the form and settings of the original DVD -- including the clock resets when they happen. In order to remove the discontinuity flag I'd have to also make the clock continuous. Do you mean that not all points where layer changes the clock isn't reset to 0?

I think what Dmagic1 means is that the error happens with Quenc but not with rejig and cce.

[nwg]

DDogg wrote,
With rejig clearly checked, prepare phase completed. The encode button was pressed and threw an error:"The current selected mode does not match the mode used during "Prepare" - cannot continue."

I did the prepare using Rejig and managed to get encoding started after selecting CCE afterwards. However, it starts encoding in CCE. It looks like the new 'sanity check' is setup wrong.

I am sticking with 0.35 for now.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
There are two anomalies I noticed in 36a

1> With rejig clearly checked, prepare phase completed. The encode button was pressed and threw an error:"The current selected mode does not match the mode used during "Prepare" - cannot continue."

2> The encode would start if CCE was checked. However, I'm sure due to the above, when I did start encoding the abort button was borked and it threw an error. Even with dvd-rb was killed, instances of CCE kept appearing, so I had to kill rebuilder at a TM level.

Nice to see that length and aspect, thanks much, plus I replied to you on that other thing. Well -- that makes two "winners" posted in the same day. I hope today is better... A new version (v0.37) that fixes that error is posted. Maybe you should just look at it as a "feature" that prevents stuttering :rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
Do you mean that not all points where layer changes the clock isn't reset to 0?

I think what Dmagic1 means is that the error happens with Quenc but not with rejig and cce. I'm saying it doesn't have to be reset to 0 -- but you need to flag a discontinuity for the timing involved. But if you look throught other DVDs you'll see lots of IFOEDIT tagged "layer breaks" -- it is flagged every time the clock is reset and a discontinuity is indicated.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well -- that makes two "winners" posted in the same day. I hope today is better... A new version (v0.37) that fixes that error is posted. Maybe you should just look at it as a "feature" that prevents stuttering :rolleyes: Make that three... I've just uploaded 0.37a...

[philos31]

Originally posted by Msc_Alex
@Lazza and @philos31

have you tried this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=469288&highlight=master+bottom#post469288)

worked for me
Only look for the first I GOP in the fist VTS_0*_1.VOB


@jdobbs I still have that mini dvd (~1MB)for you that will
cause the runtime 9 problem, I know Stutter has of course
a higher prio.

Well I compared it, but they are excatly like this:

[00af] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 247 28 0 0 [8f ff f7 1c 00 00 ]
Extension ID-bits: 8
f_code[0][0] (forward horizontal): 143
f_code[0][1] (forward vertical): 15
f_code[1][0] (backward horizontal): 255
f_code[1][1] (backward vertical): 15
intra_DC_precision: 1
picture_structure: 3
picture_structure: Frame picture
Top_Field_First: 0
TOP_FIELD_FIRST: 0
frame_pred_frame_dct: 0
concealment_motion_vectors: 0
q_scale_type: 1
intra_vlc_format: 1
alternate_scan: 1
Repeat_First_Field: 0
REPEAT_FIRST_FIELD: 0
chroma_420_type: 0
progressive_frame: 0
composite_display flag: 0

So I don't see the problem here!

0.37a is still giving the same error, but only on this dvd, all others i tried work without problems.

[Lazza]

Originally posted by Msc_Alex
@Lazza and @philos31

have you tried this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=469288&highlight=master+bottom#post469288)

worked for me
Only look for the first I GOP in the fist VTS_0*_1.VOB



In the middle of another long encode right now (must upgrade that 1.8 Athlon! :D ) so will try that later cheers. :)

[Msc_Alex]

@philos31

Thanks for testing
It worked with 2 other people (a other theory down the drain)

Interesting, so al the VTS_*0_1.vob's are progressive and still runtime 9 ,weird ..
I found a other dvd that had a problem when I striped it with doitfast4u, one m2v
came out as IBFF (Interlaced bottom field fist) that also caused the problem.
Could you try this to confirm that all the m2v are progressive ? And just for fun
set the first [00af] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 247 28 0 0 [8f ff f7 1c 00 00 ]
to [00af] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 247 28 0 0 [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ] see if this
works.
thx

@Lazza thanks hope to hear soon (good to know it also happens on AMD's)

[DMagic1]

QuEnc seems unaffected by the target size option(QuEncTargetSectors=).

My first test I didnt add the target size option and the movie was about 4,273,800,000 bytes.
On the second test I added QuEncTargetSectors=2300000, which should have been too big. The end result was about the same 4,273,800,000 bytes. :confused:

[Mtz]

That's not a bug. I just saw it.

http://img1.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img1&image=rbd_or_rdb.jpg

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. v.035
2. QuEnc
3. N
4. I got my FIRST runtime error.
Runtime error 5 during rebuilding on the last segment. The m2v was only 1k and was unplayable. The rest of the m2v files were playable. This was on a movie I've done maybe 8 times with DVD-RB with no error. I've used Rejig and CCE on this movie with v.035 with no errors before.

It would seem its a issue with QuEnc and small m2v creation. Problem appears when using a avs that creates a m2v thats only about 1 frame. QuEnc creates a m2v thats unplayable and is only 4 bytes in size. It seems not to contain any video info. During rebuilding the faulty m2v causes the error 5. The same m2v created with CCE or Rejig is playable.

[jurij]

The italian spanish audio issue is still there on .37a :((
I have choosed to keep italian audio in dvdrebuilder and it kept spanish (i can hear the spanish audio stream selecting spanish in the audio menu)
can you think to something?

[robw]

Originally posted by jurij
The italian spanish audio issue is still there on .37a :((
I have choosed to keep italian audio in dvdrebuilder and it kept spanish (i can hear the spanish audio stream selecting spanish in the audio menu)
can you think to something?

It will get fixed but til then here is my workflow:

1. Rip DVD to HD using DVDShrink. Be sure to set it for zero compression for main movie; however, deselect any audio, subtitles, or set compression for extras/menus.

2. Use DVDReMake to strip out any other stuff you don't want

3. Run DVD-RB

4. Burn DVD

This gives you total control over the content of the DVD.

[Joergen]

jdobbs: Dunno if its a bug really. But in 0.37a (havent tried it earlier) you can start the preparation without entering a working path.

[jurij]

quote:
Use DVDReMake to strip out any other stuff you don't want
---------------------------

What is it? where do i get it from? can i use that before dvdshrink?
please let me know.
Thanx!!!!

[Joergen]

Not unless you want to fork out 30$ just to test if it works or not. It seems like a great tool but wont be popular due to the price imo.

[nwg]

Both Titleset Blanker and DVD Stripper will strip out unwanted stuff. DVD Stripper is the more powerful program. They are both freeware as well.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
The italian spanish audio issue is still there on .37a :((
I have choosed to keep italian audio in dvdrebuilder and it kept spanish (i can hear the spanish audio stream selecting spanish in the audio menu)
can you think to something? I thought this was fixed. DAMN! :angry:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
jdobbs: Dunno if its a bug really. But in 0.37a (havent tried it earlier) you can start the preparation without entering a working path. Just posted this fix (after reading your comment) with 0.38. Thanks.

[Micke@home]

1. DVD-RB Version 0.37a (and 0.35, 0.36a)
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: Have tried to make a full back-up of James Bond - Goldeneye (PAL R2) using ver. 0.35 to 0.37a. I chosed everything but the main movie to be Half D1.
VTS 03 4:3 Half D1
VTS 04 16:9 the Movie (Full resolution)
VTS 05 16:9 Half D1
VTS 07 4:3 Half D1
VTS 08 4:3 Half D1
VTS 09 4:3 Half D1
When the encoding process starts for VTS 04, I get the err.msg
CCE encoding failed: AvistreamRead () failed
(0 x 80044074): Buffer is too small. CLicking OK gives next err. msg.
Vinfo_open () failed: Bad data C:\PROGRAM\DVD-RB\MOVIE\D2VAVS\V04000000001001.vaf. Clicking OK gives the same msg for the next .vaf and so on.
Rebuilder.ecl shows that vts 04 has also become Half D1, even if I left it unchecked (I think the below width is Half D1.. did not know what Half D1 was a week ago... ;-).
width=352
height=576

Tried The usual suspects (PAL R2) a couple of days ago (RB ver 0.33?)
and that worked just fine, but then I didn't choose any Half D1's...

[djan]

Hi jdobbs,

Trying DVD-RB 0.38, I'm always getting the same error with the movie "HERO". Run-time error '9' just after I push prepare button.

To help you to know what can be the problem, there are the created files :

REBUILDER.ECL :

; Cinema Craft Encoder SP -- Encoder Control List
; Created by DVD ReBuilder

V01.D2V :

DVD2AVIProjectFile
5
45 S:\- DVD -\- STRIPPER -\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
45 S:\- DVD -\- STRIPPER -\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.VOB
45 S:\- DVD -\- STRIPPER -\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.VOB
45 S:\- DVD -\- STRIPPER -\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.VOB
45 S:\- DVD -\- STRIPPER -\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000
Location=0,0,0,200AFE

V01000000001001.AVS :

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------

V01000000001001.FLG :

Nothing.

Don't care about the "- STRIPPER -" directory, the same problem appears with the original source.

Thx.

[Oldeman]

DVD-RB .35-.38
ReJig
After rebuilding DVD in Video_TS output...

IFOedit Get VTS Sectors reports:
Sector address in table(VMGI_MAT)
Start sector of VMGM_VOBS: [old: 0] [new: 4etc]

on several different movies...

I think this was ok before about .34??

Does not seem to effect playback on my players, but thought you should know.

DVD-RB is AWESUM..AWESOME..Ditto...

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
QuEnc seems unaffected by the target size option(QuEncTargetSectors=).

My first test I didnt add the target size option and the movie was about 4,273,800,000 bytes.
On the second test I added QuEncTargetSectors=2300000, which should have been too big. The end result was about the same 4,273,800,000 bytes. :confused:


This time I used QuEncTargetSectors=2390000 and it came out 4,368,238,592 bytes

[Micke@home]

Hi jdobbs

If you look at my back-up result last time I tried JB -Goldeneye (yesterday), I have now tried again but with 0.38 but also without any Half D1's
(full DVD back-up, full resolution). It is for the moment rebuilding and I don't think there will be any errors. I don't think 0.38 has to do with it but because I didn't use any Half D1's.

Now I must run away to work... (It's 07:40 A:M and +3 degrees celsius..)

[Gunner-GoNad]

Originally posted by nwg
Both Titleset Blanker and DVD Stripper will strip out unwanted stuff. DVD Stripper is the more powerful program. They are both freeware as well.

I agree. I use DVD Stripper. Take out all the bull **** and leave just the main title. This helps Rebuilder (CCE) get the best bitrate. Makes for ultimate quality. :)

- Gunner-GoNad!

[RB]

jdobbs, I posted the following bug report for v0.31. Just tried again with v0.38 and the problem is exactly the same.
Ok, some details. The DVD is Man on the Moon PAL R2, runtime error 9 subscript out of range when processing VobId 07, CellId 01 in VTS2 during Prepare step. Here's the VTS:
Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: Deutsch (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:55.09 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2,3)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:54.14 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:54.14] [Frames: 2864]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:54.24] [Frames: 2874]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:55.09] [Frames: 2884]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:01:59.16 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 4,5,6)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] : time: 00:01:58.21 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:58.21] [Frames: 2971]
[Cell 02] [V/C Id: 5/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:59.06] [Frames: 2981]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 6/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:59.16] [Frames: 2991]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:02:07.11 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 7)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 7/ 1] : time: 00:00:15.02 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:15.02] [Frames: 377]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 7/ 2] : time: 00:00:05.18 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:00:20.20] [Frames: 520]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 7/ 3] : time: 00:01:15.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:36.05] [Frames: 2405]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 7/ 4] : time: 00:00:30.21 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:07.01] [Frames: 3176]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 7/ 5] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:07.11] [Frames: 3186]

The 10-framer cells are still frames (1 still frame per cell). The last two AVS files it creates successfully are for VobId 05/CellId 01 and VobId 06/CellId 01 where the latter doesn't look right:

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:05, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MAN ON THE MOON\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(5837,5837)
ConvertToYUY2()

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:06, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MAN ON THE MOON\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(5838,5837)
ConvertToYUY2()

Note the frame number I marked in bold, I think this should be 5838 too. The last few lines of the D2V file it created:7 0 12866 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 128DF 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 1294F 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 12999 2

[jdobbs]

@RB
Thanks. That is definitely the problem. I just haven't been able to figure how it does it yet.

[RB]

I could try to recreate this structure in a very small DVD image and make that available to you. Let me know.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
I could try to recreate this structure in a very small DVD image and make that available to you. Let me know. It would probably work just to output PGC-2 as a separate movie.

[jdobbs]

@RB

What version are you using? DVD-RB doesn't output a V02A.D2V anymore. It should be a single V02.D2V.

[RB]

I'm using v0.38. Sorry, I was just quoting my original bug report for v0.31. Yes, the D2V is named different in v0.38, but everything else is the same. Same odd numbers in the AVS. So, do you want me to upload this somewhere?

[jdobbs]

Could you look at the IFO and see which cell has the highest sector offset? I'm thinking it might be related to the fact that it is the last frame in the cell -- but I'm not sure whether it is because it is the last frame in the cell, but not the VOB, or because it is the last frame in the cell and in the VOB.

[HanSolo00]

Originally posted by jurij
quote:
Use DVDReMake to strip out any other stuff you don't want
---------------------------

What is it? where do i get it from? can i use that before dvdshrink?
please let me know.
Thanx!!!!

DVDReMake is well worth the money, even if you use Shrink on a title this tool is great to pre-process. You can delete specific portions of the extras and menus, freeing up space, as well as delete the buttons for those removed features, so that the menu skips over the things you've removed. The other thing is the guy also updates the software almost every day which is nice to know it's being improved. It's got a lot of power because you can adjust all kinds of button/menu behavior in the advanced mode if you want to. The only major thing I wish was added to ReMake, is the ability to strip language or subpicture streams, because it would save a step having to do that in IFOedit (DVD-RB seemed to leave them in, silenced, in the last version I tried.) Anyway ReMake is a good tool to have whether you are doing Shrink or CCE backups because it's the only one I know of that lets you properly edit menus in detail.

As soon as my spindles of DVD-R show up (today or tomorrow) I'll be burning some new projects and doing some major testing again in my finicky Norcent for stutter. I've never had a run-time error or other, DVD-RB works great in that respect.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Could you look at the IFO and see which cell has the highest sector offset? I'm thinking it might be related to the fact that it is the last frame in the cell -- but I'm not sure whether it is because it is the last frame in the cell, but not the VOB, or because it is the last frame in the cell and in the VOB.
The cell with the highest sector offset in this VTS is V/C Id: 7/5. IOW, all cells are sequential in the VOB as shown in the IFOEdit listing I posted.

[mikegun]

hi,

tried to backup lantana rc2.
after successful encoding the rebuild keeps hanging at the same point.
at least I tried it 2 times.
the programm is not responding. by the way: in taskmanager - applications I see two rebuilder tasks ?!
I'm running XP on an AMD system. I did 2 or 3 rebuilds with older versions before without any problems.

regards,

m.

edit: currently the process went over the last "hanging point"

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by mikegun
hi,

tried to backup lantana rc2.
after successful encoding the rebuild keeps hanging at the same point.
at least I tried it 2 times.
the programm is not responding. by the way: in taskmanager - applications I see two rebuilder tasks ?!
I'm running XP on an AMD system. I did 2 or 3 rebuilds with older versions before without any problems.

regards,

m.

edit: currently the process went over the last "hanging point" I've seen this happen when you bail out of CCE during an encode, I'm not sure what causes it yet. I'd suggest you kill any running DVD-RB processes and start again (as it looks like you have done).

[jdobbs]

@RB,

Thanks. So the offending CELL was in the middle of the VTS somewhere, not at the end. That should help.

[mikegun]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I've seen this happen when you bail out of CCE during an encode, I'm not sure what causes it yet. I'd suggest you kill any running DVD-RB processes and start again (as it looks like you have done).

the 3rd attempt was successful :-)

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@RB,

Thanks. So the offending CELL was in the middle of the VTS somewhere, not at the end. That should help.
Yes, exactly.

[jdobbs]

@RB

Is there any chance the next cell after the one that failed has a picture_structure other than FRAME?

[Tognar]

1. DVD-RB Version 0.38
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: DVD-RB fails with a buffer overflow error #0004 during the rebuild phase when backing up Noir disc 5 (NTSC region 1). It just so happens disc 5 was the one I was on when I decided to try DVD-RB. :) I don't yet know if it fails on any of the other discs, I will try another one soon to see. It fails while processing VTS_06 rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1. The progress bar moves all the way to the right on that file (V06000000001001.M2V) before showing the error. The program then exists after I click ok (pops up a process must abort dialog first) so unfortunately I can not use the copy status to clipboard option. Here's the VTS:

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20)
SubPicture 2: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x21)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:09:38.16 / 30 fps] (Programs: 7) (Cells: 7) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:30.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:30.21] [Frames: 2721] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] Layer Br.: time: 00:01:35.16 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:03:06.07] [Frames: 5587] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] Layer Br.: time: 00:01:00.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:04:06.28] [Frames: 7408] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] Layer Br.: time: 00:02:00.11 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:06:07.09] [Frames: 11019] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] Layer Br.: time: 00:02:00.11 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:08:07.20] [Frames: 14630] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] Layer Br.: time: 00:01:30.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:09:37.29] [Frames: 17339] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/ no/ no]
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 1/ 7] : time: 00:00:00.16 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:09:38.15] [Frames: 17355] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]


And here's the AVS file for that clip:

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\NOIR_5\REBUILD\D2VAVS\V06.D2V")
trim(0,2686)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AudioDub(BlankClip())


As you can see, its not a still frame, it's definately using the correct MPEG2Dec3dg.dll, and decomb.dll is not being used. The AVS file plays back fine as well as the encoded M2V file.

Finally, thanks for putting in the time and effort to give such an awsome application to the community. :)

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@RB

Is there any chance the next cell after the one that failed has a picture_structure other than FRAME?
Gotcha. Exactly, the pictures in V/C id: 7/1 are not FRAME, and the first picture is TOP_FIELD.

[jdobbs]

@Tognar

As you can see, its not a still frame, it's definately using the correct MPEG2Dec3dg.dll, and decomb.dll is not being Error 0004 means I have run out of buffers in a routine that flushes remaining data (audio and subpictures) from the original DVD cell to the newer one. This just means you have a sh*tload of stuff after the final video frame. It is related to the STILL issue, even if it isn't a STILL.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Gotcha. Exactly, the pictures in V/C id: 7/1 are not FRAME, and the first picture is TOP_FIELD. Good. I'd looked at the code and that seemed to be the only way it could happen. As long as you have it, is there any way you could strip that cell (7/1) and send it to me? I think my handling of non-FRAME could be the source of some other issues as well -- and I just can't seem to find any non-FRAME sources to experiment with. I'll PM you.

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by dancis
Gdiploadimage failed : 3 problem solved , i re-installed cce again and now it works fine.

:D

I get this too now.. the weirdest thing is I've done a succesful backup run on my new athlon64 system so i know it works.. I grabbed the latest v38 last night and soon as encode came, BAM! Hello new error i never encountered before..

i'm working with it remotely now but it still keeps happening, i've even reinstalled cce, kinda frustrating really but im thinking because i'm remote desktop'd to my home pc, something isnt being installed properly or uninstalled properly

current plan: go home later tonight, give up on it right now since i've already wrestled with this half of last night as well, re-install everything from scratch and see wtf is going on.. and try it again on the last succesful dvdrb build of course :( -sigh-

[RB]

That error means GDI+ isn't installed and should happen only on Win9x AFAIK. Get the GDI+ runtime from MS: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bfc0b436-9015-43e2-81a3-54938b6f4614&DisplayLang=en

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by RB
That error means GDI+ isn't installed and should happen only on Win9x AFAIK. Get the GDI+ runtime from MS: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=bfc0b436-9015-43e2-81a3-54938b6f4614&DisplayLang=en

you're awesome! it's interesting that you mentioned this because I was thinking the recent windows critical updates may have had some effect on this thing, I'll take a look at this link, much appreciated

btw.. in case anyone didn't know -.- April 14 = doomsday for MS so update windows.. there's like 4-5-6 critical patches waiting for you :p

edit: screenshot of the error from last night btw.. I worked my way down since the error popped up fomr v38, I just worked my way down all the

[RB]

For obvious reasons, you should immediately edit your post to remove that screenshot!

[jdobbs]

Man I got here too late. Now I just have to wonder what was in the screenshot.

[jdobbs]

Do you think those gdi errors could be related to the little "folder" graphics I put on the buttons? I did it a couple of versions ago..

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Do you think those gdi errors could be related to the little "folder" graphics I put on the buttons? I did it a couple of versions ago..

..maybe

I can't verify for sure until i get home since my other computer has the old-archives of dvd rebuilder, the earliest one I have on my current beast PC is v31 and the last time i had a succesful backup on this beast is using v29

but hmm.. yeah i did notice those folder graphics :D just not sure why that would cause a problem, i'll work it out

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Good. I'd looked at the code and that seemed to be the only way it could happen. As long as you have it, is there any way you could strip that cell (7/1) and send it to me?
I sent you email with a download location.

[Joergen]

Man I got here too late. Now I just have to wonder what was in the screenshot.

Don't worry, it was only kiddie p*rn, not w*rez (god forbid!!!) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[Doom9]

DVD-RB Version:v0.38
Encoder: CCE Basic & QuEnc 0.45
EclCCE: no
Bug: Runtime Error 5 during rebuilding of first cell in VTS3 (movie: MI-2 R1 edition).

I've rebuilt this movie using both CCE Basic and QuEnc as encoders. Everything worked out just fine using CCE, but during the rebuild phase I got this run-time error. Pressing OK closed down DVD-RB so I can't paste the status panel info. But it makes me wonder, is there any way to pick up the slack? After all, two of three steps were successfully executed. Either way, I'll keep the source files a while longer.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by Doom9
Pressing OK closed down DVD-RB so I can't paste the status panel info. But it makes me wonder, is there any way to pick up the slack? After all, two of three steps were successfully executed. Either way, I'll keep the source files a while longer.

If you look in your rebuilder.ini file (in the /D2VAVS folder) there is a "progress=" flag.

0= nothing done
1= Prepare step complete
2= Encode step complete

You might want to check out your .mpv files to make sure you didn't encounter any script or encoding errors. The ones with errors are usually small in size.

[jorel]

please:
when i download using the link
" you can get it here " ( http://forum.doom9.org/ )
in the first post of this thread i got the dvd-rbv035.zip
and not
" The latest version v0.38, 14 Apr 2004 " as posted!
it's correct?
i downloaded in 13 Apr 2004 the dvd-rbv035 version build in 12 Apr 2004!
the dvd-rbv035.zip now the link is the new 0.38 version?
:confused:

thanks in advance!
:)

i'm trying to post it at 10 minutes.the traffic is too high in the forum!

[lab-one]

Clear your browsers cache or use Internet Explorer.

[jorel]

Originally posted by lab-one
Clear your browsers cache or use Internet Explorer.

works perfect using ie (well, ie working perfect is not normal, right? ) :p

thank you lab-one!
:)

[lab-one]

haha...I dont know, I sorta like IE...

[Patdumpsite]

Originally posted by Doom9
DVD-RB Version:v0.38
Encoder: CCE Basic & QuEnc 0.45
EclCCE: no
Bug: Runtime Error 5 during rebuilding of first cell in VTS3 (movie: MI-2 R1 edition).



DVD-RB Version: v0.39
Encoder: QuEnc 0.45
EclCCE: no
Bug: Runtime Error 5 during rebuilding of first cell in VTS3
Movie: Matrix Revolutions

I have been getting the same error since v0.31. I have yet to have a successful build (also tried to back-up "Alien"). I always get runtime error 5 during the rebuild process.

I have scanned through this bug thread and noted 3-4 others with the same issue, but if any solutions were offered I missed them.

I have been waiting 5 days to say this: Thanks to jdobbs for the work he's been putting in on this program.

[luphy]

Just a random thought and some questions - I wonder if people who are having problems with stuttering or motion blur are using certain "modified" versions of CCE SP (not basic).

I've never used CCE or the eclCCE - but am I correct in assuming that eclCCE removes the logo placed by the trial versions?

Addendum: I read that the trial versions do not support the advanced option to change the timecode (or something to that nature)....is that true, and does DVDRB ever use that advanced option?

[wmansir]

Originally posted by luphy
Just a random thought and some questions - I wonder if people who are having problems with stuttering or motion blur are using certain "modified" versions of CCE SP (not basic).

I've never used CCE or the eclCCE - but am I correct in assuming that eclCCE removes the logo placed by the trial versions?

No it does not. That would be illegal. Check the stickie in the CCE forum for instructions on how to remove the logo ;)

[robot1]

No EclCCE isn't a crack.
It simply allows command line input to cce2.5 and allows to open and save ecls to the trial version.
The watemark isn't removed.

[RB]

DVD-RB Version: v0.38
Encoder: CCE-SP 2.67.00.23
EclCCE: yes
Bug: No subtitles in standalone player
Movie: Donnie Darko R2 PAL

Actually, first time I got to try a DVD-RB backup in my standalone (JVC XV-S300BK). I removed all audio (including DTS) from main movie, just left the German AC3 6ch. I don't see any stutter/jerkiness at all, not at chapter points and not during normal playback. FF/RW, chapter skip, time jump, everything works perfect.

The only problem is, the player won't display any subtitles. I can turn them all on (there are 6 total), but they never show up. The funny thing is the subtitles work fine in a software player (WinDVD 5).

[andal1208]

Bugreport DVD-RB V0.38 using CCE V2.5.
I used the advanced AVS-Option "Resize to half D1", only for part of the DVD.
The AVS-Files are correctly generated.
The ECL file is generated wrongly. It has the wrong size values (352 instead of 720) in the parts which where not selected to be made D1.
This causes CCE to fail.

Thanks for this great tool anyway,
Andal

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Do you think those gdi errors could be related to the little "folder" graphics I put on the buttons? I did it a couple of versions ago..
No, I don't think so. The GdipLoadFromFile error message is popped up by CCE, not DVD-RB :) Somehow CCE-SP 2.67 seems to require the MS GDI+ runtime. It's there by default in XP, not sure about W2K. Win9x users definitely need to download the GDI+ runtime from MS.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by andal1208
Bugreport DVD-RB V0.38 using CCE V2.5.
I used the advanced AVS-Option "Resize to half D1", only for part of the DVD.
The AVS-Files are correctly generated.
The ECL file is generated wrongly. It has the wrong size values (352 instead of 720) in the parts which where not selected to be made D1.
This causes CCE to fail.

Thanks for this great tool anyway,
Andal I just looked through and found the source of that bug. It was using the state of the flag for the last VTS processed in creating the entire ECL. Thanks for pointing that out! The fix will be included in v0.40.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Doom9
DVD-RB Version:v0.38
Encoder: CCE Basic & QuEnc 0.45
EclCCE: no
Bug: Runtime Error 5 during rebuilding of first cell in VTS3 (movie: MI-2 R1 edition).

I've rebuilt this movie using both CCE Basic and QuEnc as encoders. Everything worked out just fine using CCE, but during the rebuild phase I got this run-time error. Pressing OK closed down DVD-RB so I can't paste the status panel info. But it makes me wonder, is there any way to pick up the slack? After all, two of three steps were successfully executed. Either way, I'll keep the source files a while longer. This is caused (in my attempt to repeat it) by what is an apparent problem with QuEnc. It doesn't seem to be able to encode single frames. I've repeated the problem and it doesn't even work if I try to encode the AVS external to DVD-RB. I haven't repeated it in CCE, but I suspect it is at the same line of code and I'm looking at what might happen similarly. I am investigating possibly just writing single frames as-is and using them in the rebuild -- you really don't get any space gain on those anyway.

If you have a job that has completed Phases I and II, you can drop out of one-click mode and do the last phase independently. But very possibly the source of the problem may have been something that was done in phase II (like this one).

[boombastic]

Version 0.39,Rejig,EclCCE:no
I succesfully completed the first two pass in one click mode but during the third pass,at end of the VTS01.vob,i get :"err of runtime 75:error of access to the address/file"(transleted from italian...).I get the same error if i make the pass manually.In the .ini file the process flag is 2.
The source is an image created with DVD Decrypter and mounted with Nero Image Drive,i'm going to try daemon tools.

[philos31]

I had a DVD with Runtime error 9 at the beginning of the first step.

I can confirm that this problem is gone, and it is re-encoding as we speak!

Great work....

[boombastic]

The same with Darmon tools and previous version of the program(0.36a)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by boombastic
The same with Darmon tools and previous version of the program(0.36a) See what happens if you just use DVD Decrypter and download the DVD into a directory.

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by boombastic
Version 0.39,Rejig,EclCCE:no
I succesfully completed the first two pass in one click mode but during the third pass,at end of the VTS01.vob,i get :"err of runtime 75:error of access to the address/file"(transleted from italian...).I get the same error if i make the pass manually.In the .ini file the process flag is 2.
The source is an image created with DVD Decrypter and mounted with Nero Image Drive,i'm going to try daemon tools.

@jdobbs : it seems to be the same error than me....My source is also a DVDDecrypter mounted with Alcohol 120% Virtual Drive (french version)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
@jdobbs : it seems to be the same error than me....My source is also a DVDDecrypter mounted with Alcohol 120% Virtual Drive (french version) Sorry... I meant a source that was put onto hard drive in DVD-Decrypter's file mode. That way I can know whether it is the drive-emulating program or DVD-RB that is the root of the problem.

[Axlemar]

You might try extracting the contents from the iso and checking to see if they are set to read-only. Sometimes having the dvd files on read-only interferes with dvd-rb so extract them and remove read-only and try to use the files in a folder.

[DDogg]

Just to mention, I use ISO created by DVDDecrypter mounted in Alcohol exclusively with DVD-RB. All standard settings except I do have RMPS checked in the emulation options. Not that [it] should make any difference, AFAIK. Never have a problem anymore (so far).

FYI: There is a fairly new updated version of daemon tools out.

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Sorry... I meant a source that was put onto hard drive in DVD-Decrypter's file mode. That way I can know whether it is the drive-emulating program or DVD-RB that is the root of the problem.

I did it, and it's working....There must be an operation attempted by DVD-RB which is not supported by the Alcohol 120% Virtual drive (write operation ???)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
I did it, and it's working....There must be an operation attempted by DVD-RB which is not supported by the Alcohol 120% Virtual drive (write operation ???) DVD-RB never tries to perform any type of write operation on the source path... As DDogg pointed out it works for some people. I'm not sure what causes this but I am fairly sure "it ain't my code."

[GooglyBear]

hey guys.. I have a question.. I've usually done 1clicks before and in doing the manual 3-step process.. as I understand the phases are
phase 1: prepare
phase 2: encode
phase 3: rebuild

..what is REMERGE? After I click Rebuild and phaseIII rebuild finishes succesfully.. that button becomes REMERGE.. should I click on that again?

sigh.. behold my n00b questions, whee! I only ask because rebuild finishes just fine and I even get the PhaseIII message and it says Done.. but if I click on REMERGE and let it do its thang.. I get the 'runtime error 6 overflow' bug

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by GooglyBear
hey guys.. I have a question.. I've usually done 1clicks before and in doing the manual 3-step process.. as I understand the phases are
phase 1: prepare
phase 2: encode
phase 3: rebuild

..what is REMERGE? After I click Rebuild and phaseIII rebuild finishes succesfully.. that button becomes REMERGE.. should I click on that again?

sigh.. behold my n00b questions, whee! I only ask because rebuild finishes just fine and I even get the PhaseIII message and it says Done.. but if I click on REMERGE and let it do its thang.. I get the 'runtime error 6 overflow' bug Ha! No difference. I used the term "Remerge" a long time ago and it was still hanging around. Remerge = Rebuild.:D

Added: :confused: How can it work the first time and not the second?

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Ha! No difference. I used the term "Remerge" a long time ago and it was still hanging around. Remerge = Rebuild.:D

Added: :confused: How can it work the first time and not the second?

I wish knew why it fails remerge right after a rebuild my friend :( it's why i got confused as all hell.. the Runtime Error 6 overflow would happen only for "Remerge"

and as i understood it, rebuild was the last phase and I saw it finish succesfully but the remerge came up and I got thrown for a complete loop, hence.. posted

thanks for the reply :) this means the video_ts should be ready when i get home.. i'm working with my pc remotely so i can't do certain things like watch video.. otherwise i would've just tried playing it after rebuild ignoring the remerge thing

[loosenut]

Has anyone tried a 'Rebuilded' DVD-+R on a Philips standalone succesfully?
The stuttering problem is almost nonexistent now on a Sony and a JVC player, navigation works fine, but on a Philips, the backups just... play, at best. NO button works (during play). And after 10-15 minutes, sound gets out of sync. Pal or NTSC. On some NTSC DVDs, picture locks up immediately after start.
Same backups play OK on other standalones and, of course, a PC.

I understand that Philips-Marantz and clones standalones are quite picky, or might be that my particular player is too picky, but that problem should be taken care of, at some point.
Something to put at the bottom of the "to-do" list?

[GooglyBear]

Originally posted by loosenut
Has anyone tried a 'Rebuilded' DVD-+R on a Philips standalone succesfully?
The stuttering problem is almost nonexistent now on a Sony and a JVC player, navigation works fine, but on a Philips, the backups just... play, at best. NO button works (during play). And after 10-15 minutes, sound gets out of sync. Pal or NTSC. On some NTSC DVDs, picture locks up immediately after start.
Same backups play OK on other standalones and, of course, a PC.

I understand that Philips-Marantz and clones standalones are quite picky, or might be that my particular player is too picky, but that problem should be taken care of, at some point.
Something to put at the bottom of the "to-do" list?

the sad truth in a way and a reason i sometimes feel as if jdobbs is going to be trying to close pandora's box is that..

simply put: stuttering, pixelization, skipping, etc etc etc are often the result of BAD CHEAP MEDIA

sad but true.. aside from the early problems of dvd-rb, it's been pretty good and i thankfully have not experienced any of the other problems people are talking about.. thank gawd for ritek:devil:

[jurij]

Does dvd rebuilder support titles with seamless branching? like abyss where you can watch the original or extended version.

P.S. u looking to that italian spanish issue?

[wmansir]

The stuttering is not bad media. I'm using Ritek GO4. Plus I have about 30 movies from this same 50 pack of media already backed up and playing fine on the same player with Big3 (and a couple DVD-Shrink).

However, in loosenut's case it sounds like perhaps the player doesn't agree with the media. 1st, do other backups on the same media play on this standalone? 2nd, I'm wonder how the menu's play, because they don't get touched by DVD-RB?

[Joergen]

Media-stutter usually happens towards the end of the disc and menu items are most often the first items on the disc (written towards the inner circle of the disc).

I've had some lesser quality media recently that shows itself mainly as the player needing longer to seek to an item at the end of the disc or a quick stutter of a couple frames during play that doesnt recreate itself if you rewind over that spot and play again.

But chapter stutters and fieldorder flickers are not media related but software+source+player combinations.

[dave88]

Unfortunately I'm still getting a "0004" error code
the disk is "The Best of Abbott & Costello - Volume 1" it has quite a few stills. This is an the first flippy I've seen with almost 8 gigs on each side, I did not know this was possible.

dvd-rb v0.39
CCE v2.67 with eclcce v1.81

I'll be glad to try out the next release
Thanks!

[Joergen]

Dual-layer, dual-side disc.. wow that studio must like expensive production costs ;)

[loosenut]

Originally posted by wmansir
The stuttering is not bad media. I'm using Ritek GO4. Plus I have about 30 movies from this same 50 pack of media already backed up and playing fine on the same player with Big3 (and a couple DVD-Shrink).

However, in loosenut's case it sounds like perhaps the player doesn't agree with the media. 1st, do other backups on the same media play on this standalone? 2nd, I'm wonder how the menu's play, because they don't get touched by DVD-RB?

The media is Tayo Yuden, spindle of 100. On my second 100 spindle, not one coaster (well, apart from some boo-boos I made by mistake :)
Backups with DVDShrink, Instant Copy or DVD2DVDR (with CCE), even burned to the rim, play A-OK on every standalone, including the Philips. So I guess the 'media' issue is not an issue here :)
With Rebuilder backups, menus play ok,(back and forth to audio menu, subtitles, specials etc) but once the movie starts,(play button) it plays with the problems mentioned above. On occasions, I can't even stop it!!! (eject button on standalone)
As I said, exact same backups play perfectly OK on Sony and JVC.

The Philips is EXTREMELY slack when it comes to media quality (even Princos play OK :) BUT also EXTREMELY picky to absolutely correct DVD structure.

[philos31]

@JDobbs:

The disc witch I tried to encode (gave me an runtimererror before)
came out very strange.
(ver 0.39)
The ouput was all garbled, like it gave an avisynth error, stripes in all sorts of color.

I could see that it was the movie because it fades in and out at the right moments.
(Opening 1 of the AVS files, gave me picture, no error's)
What I did was vts1 (main movie 16:9) encode just the way it is, and VTS2 (the extra's 4:3) on Half D1.

I encoded it again without Half D1 on the extra's, and now it comes out OK.

What I think is strange, is that the VTS2 (half D1) option, seems to result in a garbled picture on the VTS1...

RB: 0.39
Eclcce: NO
CCE Version: Basic
Deinterlace: NO

[wmansir]

@philos31:

Does it look like the picture posted in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74333

I don't think Jdobbs last comment in the thread is correct though, it's not a exactly a problem with the script itself, but a CCE + AviSynth + certian scripts/sources error. I haven't pinpointed exactly where it comes from yet. I did some searching in the CCE forum, but didn't find anything.

[philos31]

Originally posted by wmansir
@philos31:

Does it look like the picture posted in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74333

I don't think Jdobbs last comment in the thread is correct though, it's not a exactly a problem with the script itself, but a CCE + AviSynth + certian scripts/sources error. I haven't pinpointed exactly where it comes from yet. I did some searching in the CCE forum, but didn't find anything.

Yep, it looks like this, but this picture could realy be an avisynth error. (Red color)
My picture is like this, but full screen... and it changes color, fades in and out, just like the real movie does.

I saved all AVS's from the 1st and 2nd encode, so I will do some seaching myself. But that will be tomorow, the fastes PC (where I do the encodes, and he play's UT2004) is in my son's room, and he has to sleep :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
@philos31:

Does it look like the picture posted in this thread:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74333

I don't think Jdobbs last comment in the thread is correct though, it's not a exactly a problem with the script itself, but a CCE + AviSynth + certian scripts/sources error. I haven't pinpointed exactly where it comes from yet. I did some searching in the CCE forum, but didn't find anything. I've seen that screen too many times in the past few years.... I'm pretty confident what it is...