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Morpheus_xx
26th March 2004, 19:23
Hi,

is there a way to use the custom XviD matrixes in NeroDigital (Recode 2)? There are 8x8 matrixes for inter and intra frames. So how I must transfer the values from the 128 bytes XviD matrix?

Thanx in advance,
Morpheus
bond
26th March 2004, 19:35
seems you have to type in each value by hand in recode2 :(
Morpheus_xx
26th March 2004, 19:40
Hmm, but what half of the 128 bytes I use for intra and what for inter frames? I don't know too much about this matrix-stuff yet. So any further information is welcome ;-)
SeeMoreDigital
26th March 2004, 20:32
Yes, I like this idea.

Bearing in mind that ND is such a fast encoder it might be well worth the effort.

Soulhunter has been playing around with a matrix editor to create some custom matrices over on the XviD section of the forum: - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72564

Cheers
communist
27th March 2004, 23:09
LigH is working on that Matrix Editor ;)
LigH
27th March 2004, 23:56
Probably a good idea... If I can find out where these values are stored, I may add this to the import/export features. Currently my editor is able to exchange custom matrices between XviD / ffvfw (via files), TMPGEnc (via INI section), and CCE SP Trial 2.62+ (via Registry).
Morpheus_xx
28th March 2004, 13:54
Hi,

I found the default matrix in following places: (latest Nero Recode version 2.0.0.17)

NeNDGui.dll Offset 0004 58E0
NeNDVid.ax Offset 0005 9DF0
NeVideo.ax Offset 0007 7D50

I searched for the bytes 08 11 12 13 (hex mode).

When you save a profile with custom matrix the values a stored anywhere but I didn't found them yet...

Morpheus
SeeMoreDigital
28th March 2004, 14:11
Great stuff Morpheus,

I generated a few encodes with Recode2 using Soulhunters matrices.

Have you noticed that there is quite a difference in the output file size between H.263 and MPEG encodes?

Cheers
Morpheus_xx
29th March 2004, 19:45
Currently I did no tests at all.

How you transfered the Soulhunters matrices into the files? Maybe you could send me your files (via email). I'd like to test them also.

I still try to find out where the profiles of recode are stored. I found the name of the profile in the registry, but nothing more.

Morpheus
SeeMoreDigital
29th March 2004, 20:19
Originally posted by Morpheus_xx
Currently I did no tests at all.

How you transfered the Soulhunters matrices into the files? I did it manually. It was a right ball ache!

And I'll generate some small encodes and post a link to them.

Cheers
j0g0
8th April 2004, 15:01
The settings for NeroDigital are in Settings.xml file in folder
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Ahead\NeroDigital\

With latest versions of encoder pack ( > 1.1.6.0 ) this will change to C:\Documents and Settings\curren user\Application Data\Ahead\NeroDigital\Settings.xml
Morpheus_xx
8th April 2004, 20:44
ahh... well done! I did only a binary search for the matrix values. Sometimes it's so easy... ;-)

So thank you for the place of the matrices. I think LigH could now extend his matrix editor for ND?
LigH
8th April 2004, 22:48
The complicated thing about this is: If a user would like to add new matrices, I would have to copy a whole preset, this is a bit heavy; overwriting only the matrices of one preset would be possible, probably...
Morpheus_xx
14th April 2004, 19:22
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I did it manually. It was a right ball ache!

And I'll generate some small encodes and post a link to them.

Cheers

Have you done some encodes? My test was not very successful. Can you post some results?
SeeMoreDigital
14th April 2004, 19:34
Originally posted by Morpheus_xx
Have you done some encodes? My test was not very successful. Can you post some results? I did quite a large (15MB) HiDef anamorphic test for Soulhunter which looked good.

I have been meaning to generate and post some shorter 'test' encodes but have not got round to doing so yet...

Sorry about that!

Cheers
LigH
17th April 2004, 00:09
I've heard rumours (via PM) that Nero Digital / Recode2 will soon provide import/export for Custom Quant Matrix files. Let's press our thumbs that it will be soon...
boombastic
15th June 2004, 16:07
any news anout custom matrix for Nero digital?The mpeg standard gives good result but not comparable to xvid...
SeeMoreDigital
15th June 2004, 17:04
It's in there now... but not as you know it!


Cheers
boombastic
15th June 2004, 20:34
Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
It's in there now... but not as you know it!


Cheers

What do you mean?I tried importing xvid custom matrix but i got a lot of artifacts,where can i find some (or just one!) good matrix for nero?