Subs not in italic

[mJohnsson]

When I re-encode the last samurai with dvd2svcd, the text that should appear in italics, doesn't. It displays the italic code instead, <i>. The italics also don't work with DVobSub 2.18. Does anyone know how I can make it work, both when watching avis and srts with dvobsub, AND so subs appear in italics when they should after re-encode?

[Manngo]

Hello, and welcome to the forum!

Your question is about subtitles, so you can have more help in the subtitles forum on this page.
In your place, I would convert the subs to a graphical format, using eg. MaestroSBT. Download, and try it!

[mJohnsson]

Ok, thanks!

[j_olson]

Well, DVD2SVCD is made so the users shouldn't have to do several different steps but get it automated instead... I tried the guide at http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/220351.php and DVD2SVCD made real DVD subtitles (at least they work on my standalone DVD Player when I press the Subtitle button) that worked very well, creating the small bitmaps for each subtitles stream and muxing them in. It's just that the commands like <i> for italics doesn't work.

It seems like it's DVD2SVCD itself, and not a helper program, that creates the .PNG bitmaps - so it's interesting for us to know if it's a DVD2SVCD feature that is "Not implemented yet" / "Not to be implemented" / "Oversight" / "Something that can be worked around" or if I have done something wrong.

Also, I have all files saved - and it's interesting to know if it's possible not to redo everything from the beginning but just the subtitles and their muxing. For instance, if I use SBTMaestro and create new bitmaps (around 20 of 1100 are italic), can I use them - and how?

[j_olson]

As I now understand it, the subtitles aren't "real DVD subtitles" but SVCD subtitles. Doesn't matter too much for me since they work in my standalone.

It's possible to set up DVD2SVCD (or change in DVD.INI) so that all text in the movie comes out italic, so a workaround for the probable non-implementation of italics in DVD2SVCD would be to make a second run with that setting and manually pick those .PNG:s that should be italic (OK if they aren't too many).

The questions are then:
How to just run the .PNG file creation?
How to run the rest of the procedure after some PNG:s are replaced (may be just to execute the commands shown in dvd2svcd_log.txt)?

[DDogg]

I'll try to get you a definitive answer. Frankly, I don't do subs that much, but I'll send a link to D2S of this post. It sounds like a good question, but like I said, I'm 'sub'-ignorant :)

[j_olson]

Thanks, what I'm interested in is only that the entire phrase is italic - not that just a couple of the words on the screen are so and the rest are normal.

[guru1968]

Originally posted by DDogg
I'll try to get you a definitive answer. Frankly, I don't do subs that much, but I'll send a link to D2S of this post. It sounds like a good question, but like I said, I'm 'sub'-ignorant :)

Then you must be good in understanding those foreign-language phrases like the japanese in Kill-Bill and the alike...


guru


p.s.
what that about .PNG images???
When I do a permanent subs conversion DVD -> SVCD the only thing I get is a couple of .BMPs, and _not_ .PNGs :(
That's probably also the reason for the wrong alpha-blending for the subs (.BMPs don't support this)

[j_olson]

Maybe the .PNG:s are only used when doing non-permanent DVD subtitles - that's what I chose. And got 1100 .PNG files...

[j_olson]

BTW, I wonder if the .PNG files are made by DVD2SVCD or if the "Avisynth Subtitler.dll" (or something else) is doing them?

[j_olson]

What I would first like to have is the workaround... I have all the files saved, and I know how to globally change the font to italic.

I want to be able to then:
A) Run just the creation of the italic .PNG files.
B) Add just those files with the phrase in italic to the saved files.
C) Continue with the muxing and DVD authoring.

I don't know how to make A, B is of course easy, C may be to run the last commands from the dvd2svcd_log.txt...

Any help?

[guru1968]

Do You have the normal (i.e. _not_ italic) PNGs already or just no subs at all?

As I said, for me I always got BMPs, not PNGs; so I do not really know how to extract PNGs from DVDs...

But if You _do_ have the original extracted PNGs, you may can convert them to a kind of Italic font!
- this can relatively easy be done with the Photoshop 'action' feature: this is kind of a macro which you record and then apply to a whole set of images or even a directory...
Within this macro you only need to select one whole phrase and then transform the selection in a way that the result looks like as if it was italics...

That Photoshop batch-mode worked well for me when I had the BMPs extracted by subrip but need to convert them from Indexed-color to RGB8-color mode for the AviSyntSubtitler plugin - this crashed with the original BMPs!

Sorry, that's all I can help You with :-7

guru

[j_olson]

I have everything from the beginning to the end, including a DVDAuthored DVD.

As I understand it, an original DVD has BMP files on it - so you will get BMP:s when you start with a DVD. I have an AVI + .srt file, and I guess it's DVD2SVCD/AVI2DVD itself that constructs .PNG files from that text file. Your soultion would work well enough, if it wasn't so that the phrase now begins with <i> and ends with </i>...

If I get those italic subs (I know it's possible to create italic subs in DVD2SVCD, and how, I just don't know how not to have to start over from the beginning since I can't find a command to call...) I suppose it's just to run the two commands from my log file:

"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\spumux.exe" -m dvd -s 0 "C:\Movie_Output\sv1-1.xml" < "C:\Movie_Output\MPlex_Muxed_File00.mpg" > "C:\Movie_Output\MPlex_Muxed_File00-subbed.mpg"

"C:\Program\DVD2SVCD\DVDAuthor\dvdauthor.exe" -x "C:\Movie_Output\DVDAuthor.xml"

[guru1968]

sorry, I personally never did the conversion AVI -> DVD;
if at all, I do DVD -> SVCD or even SVCD -> DVD (to save discs :)

can't help you there :(


guru

[j_olson]

Well, this particular movie can be with or without the italics - but I'm interested in knowing which program makes the PNG files - and how to just do the creation of them and not have to do everything else over again...

[Manngo]

Hi!

I'm running AVItoDVD projects in 100% with subtitles.
D2S creates the subBMPs itself. After the bmps created you have only pictures. These cannot be transformed to italics, becouse it is only a picture, and not a text. Solution: create subs with another program. MaestroSBT can create sonic scenarist files, and it creates the pictures itself in italics. Maybe yu can use the bmps created by maestrosbt providing you reaname them. I reccommend a macro :-).

[j_olson]

Thanks. For this particular movie I did edit the few PNG files - not that hard to remove the <i></i> parts and then use skew on the rest. Then just rerun the last commands from the dvd2svcd log file. In the future, I will use remove the <i> tags from the srt file.