DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports [Archive] - Page 5

wmansir

19th April 2004, 00:45

Originally posted by CyberCouf
I've tried on an other computer to recompress the movie PIRATES_OF_THE_CARIBBEAN (2 DVD, zone 2)

-Rebuilder 0.41
-CCE 2.67.00.23
-EclCCE (last version)
-AviSynth 2.54

with method "One Click" and "3 clicks".

at the beginning, during the Phase I, "Scanning and writting D2V file"
it crash with this error:
DVDRB error:
execution error: '6' out of capacity

(and i've 20GB free on my HDD)

The R1 version of that disc, while not exaclty seamless branching, does have duplicate PGCs. I'm not sure if DVD-RB can handle them, if they are present on the R2 version.

The feature using the duplicate PGC is the select commentaries by Knightley and Davenport and the producer Bruckheimer. In addition to that it has a weird IFO layout, in that the audio track for those commentaries are not present in the main movie PCG, but only if you select them thru their specific PGCs. DIF4U and DVD Decrypter miss(ed) them by default, which caused problems. Search the Big3 subforum for more details.

Fr4nz

19th April 2004, 00:50

Again, I would try to reauthor the DVD with DVD-Shrink and then encode it with DVD-RB.

brikin

19th April 2004, 00:53

JDobbs I don't know if 0.41 was supposed to fix all 0004 errors or just the ones that occured right at the begining but I am still getting it. I think my 0004 error for the X2 DVD happens on the m2v file were the layer break occurs.

Thanks for all the hard work
B

jdobbs

19th April 2004, 02:29

Originally posted by brikin
JDobbs I don't know if 0.41 was supposed to fix all 0004 errors or just the ones that occured right at the begining but I am still getting it. I think my 0004 error for the X2 DVD happens on the m2v file were the layer break occurs.

Thanks for all the hard work
B No. All the 0004 errors are definitely not gone. I am working that fix right now. It's not a mystery, I know what is happening, but it takes some time and thought to do it right.

Djuby

19th April 2004, 03:34

jdobbs

I have set the TargetSectors=2300000 and still the backup came out the same size - 4.32 GB. Is this the parameter that controls the final size? Does it matter where in the [Options] the line is placed?

Djuby

KungFuCow

19th April 2004, 04:17

TargetSectors isnt valid anymore I dont believe. Now you need to use CCETargetSectors, RejigTargetSectors, etc.

I could be wrong but I think each encoder can have their respective sizes specified.

wmansir

19th April 2004, 04:59

Originally posted by KungFuCow
TargetSectors isnt valid anymore I dont believe. Now you need to use CCETargetSectors, RejigTargetSectors, etc.

I could be wrong but I think each encoder can have their respective sizes specified.

The readme says - Removed "TargetSectors=" value and replaced it with one for each of the three
encoders. Now use one or more of "CCETargetSectors=", "ReJigTargetSectors=", and
"QuEncTargetSectors=" -- please note that "TargetSectors=" will still work, but
any of the encoder specific settings will override it for that encoder.

So it says "removed", but then explicitly says it should still work, so it should still work.

jdobbs

19th April 2004, 14:14

Originally posted by Djuby
jdobbs

I have set the TargetSectors=2300000 and still the backup came out the same size - 4.32 GB. Is this the parameter that controls the final size? Does it matter where in the [Options] the line is placed?

Djuby Yes it is still valid as the "general" target size parameter -- but if you enter a parameter for any of individual encoders (e.g. CCETargetSectors) it will override the "general" setting.

rui

19th April 2004, 15:06

Originally posted by jdobbs
No. All the 0004 errors are definitely not gone. I am working that fix right now. It's not a mystery, I know what is happening, but it takes some time and thought to do it right.

Great! :)

I got my first problem with DVD-RB last night. I was backuping the dvd nº4 (only extras) of the LOTR: Two Towers extended edition.
I was using:

DVD-RB:0.41
EclCCE 1.81

Encode done with CCE 2.67.00.23, with multiple pause/continues in the encode, but didn't got any problems here.

Then, in the rebuild fase, i got the 0004 (DVD-RB buffer overflow, i think) at 53,5 %

But i will wait patiently that a new version comes out. I have every confidence in your wonderfull work :)

jojje_l

24th April 2004, 10:21

Serious problem. Anyone else that has this problem? Maybe not the first you think of...

1. DVD-R Version: 0.43b (Had the same problem with earlier versions...)
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: The subtitles doesn´t show on my standalone dvdplayer. The options are there, I can choose english, swedish, hungarian or whatever the choises are, but they doesn´t show. In PowerDVD on my computer everything works fine, but as I said, not on my standalone player. With all other encoder/transcoder software it works so I guess it unfortunaltly has to do with DvdReBuilder... My standalone is a Samsung DVD-811.

Suggestions?

jdobbs: VERY good software you got there! Keep it up! I´ve never experienced a software with such frequent bugfixes. It´s every users dream.

jdobbs

24th April 2004, 11:03

Originally posted by jojje_l
jdobbs: VERY good software you got there! Keep it up! I´ve never experienced a software with such frequent bugfixes. It´s every users dream. Thanks. Wouldn't it be great, though, to have fewer to fix? ;)

jojje_l

24th April 2004, 11:12

Well, I guess you´re almost there with the speed you´re keeping up with... :D

DirtyAbdul

24th April 2004, 16:33

bug report:

i haven't seen anyone mentioning this bug, yet, but it should be a quick fixing exercise for "da man:" :D

1. DVD-RB 0.44
2. encoder: quenc 0.45
3. bug: whether i check or uncheck "trellis quantization" under "options > quenc options > trellis quantization," quenc ALWAYS has it activated. i stumbled over this issue when i wanted to test the speed difference between the two options. currently, it takes me about 12 (TWELVE!) hours with quenc to encode a 2 hr movie (at only around 11 frames/sec on a 3.2 ghz p4 with hyperthreading activated)!!!

maybe i need to reboot the system and start from fresh once in while ;). another interesting phenomenon: after playing around with quenc's "restore" and "minimize window" buttons (at the upper right corner of the window) for several times (er, no, it's "many" times) during the encoding process, ALL my desktop icons suddenly disappear! :confused: this actually has happened sporadically before. of course, you could say "don't play with this button then" ;), but sometimes i just get too impatient about the slow encoding process and want to know the status of it. could be a display driver-related issue, though. currently using an ATI AIW 9800 Pro with Catalyst 4.4.

DA

jdobbs

24th April 2004, 17:48

Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
bug report:

i haven't seen anyone mentioning this bug, yet, but it should be a quick fixing exercise for "da man:" :D

1. DVD-RB 0.44
2. encoder: quenc 0.45
3. bug: whether i check or uncheck "trellis quantization" under "options > quenc options > trellis quantization," quenc ALWAYS has it activated. i stumbled over this issue when i wanted to test the speed difference between the two options. currently, it takes me about 12 (TWELVE!) hours with quenc to encode a 2 hr movie (at only around 11 frames/sec on a 3.2 ghz p4 with hyperthreading activated)!!!

maybe i need to reboot the system and start from fresh once in while ;). another interesting phenomenon: after playing around with quenc's "restore" and "minimize window" buttons (at the upper right corner of the window) for several times (er, no, it's "many" times) during the encoding process, ALL my desktop icons suddenly disappear! :confused: this actually has happened sporadically before. of course, you could say "don't play with this button then" ;), but sometimes i just get too impatient about the slow encoding process and want to know the status of it. could be a display driver-related issue, though. currently using an ATI AIW 9800 Pro with Catalyst 4.4.

DA Okay... here's the problem. QuEncode remembers it's last setting for Trellis when it executes. So when it gets turned on with the command line option (which DVD-RB uses) it stays turned on. That's because there is no command line option to turn it off in DVD-RB. In order to turn it off you have to:

1. Start DVD-RB and uncheck the option.
2. Open up QuEncode by itself and unclick the trellis option
3. exit both.

The same holds true for all the QuEnc options... once they are set, they can only be reset from within QuEnc.

It will stay until the next time you run QUENC with trellis checked. Then you have to do this again. I'll ask NIC if he can put a noTrellis, no2, and noKVCD option.

DirtyAbdul

24th April 2004, 17:57

aaah, thanks for the tip and quick response! just like i said: a quick fixing exercise for "da man" ;).

i used to be able to "quenc" with 25+ fps, and just out of curiosity activated kvcd AND trellis quant! now it's understandable why my machine is so slow since then even after rebooting and resetting DVD-RB :rolleyes:

DA

robot1

24th April 2004, 18:08

Is it my fault, or I can't select anymore "Minimize Disc Space Requirements" in Rejiig options, even if I've selected "Rejig mode" ?

jdobbs

24th April 2004, 19:16

Originally posted by robot1
Is it my fault, or I can't select anymore "Minimize Disc Space Requirements" in Rejiig options, even if I've selected "Rejig mode" ? No, it's mine. I keep planning to add that option and never get around to it. Right now all that exists is the disabled menu option.:rolleyes: Uhhh... maybe I should call it a "teaser".

sreemv

24th April 2004, 20:22

Why am I suddenly getting buffer oveflow error - since 0.42 - Rebuild gets to 100% - at the end instead of successfull completion, it errors [buffer overflow] out.. any ideas? TIA.

Mn3m0n1c

24th April 2004, 21:48

Originally posted by jojje_l
Serious problem. Anyone else that has this problem? Maybe not the first you think of...

1. DVD-R Version: 0.43b (Had the same problem with earlier versions...)
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: The subtitles doesn´t show on my standalone dvdplayer. The options are there, I can choose english, swedish, hungarian or whatever the choises are, but they doesn´t show. In PowerDVD on my computer everything works fine, but as I said, not on my standalone player. With all other encoder/transcoder software it works so I guess it unfortunaltly has to do with DvdReBuilder... My standalone is a Samsung DVD-811.

Suggestions?

jdobbs: VERY good software you got there! Keep it up! I´ve never experienced a software with such frequent bugfixes. It´s every users dream.

Just thought I'd add my two cents on the 'subs on standalones' problem- I'm experiencing the same thing on my (NTSC) Samsung DVD-S222; backing up Kill Bill Vol. 1, keeping everything except French audio, and using half D-1 for extras. Perhaps its a Samsung issue? PowerDVD (file mode) plays the subs fine, same for the DVD-R. If I look at the .IFO's in IFOEdit, I notice that the subs for the main movie aren't flagged as forced, which I'm pretty sure they should be, since they're used in this R1 version for the Japanese language dialogue only- I may try setting them that way and reburn or ISO-mount later today, and report back.

Using:
DVD Rebuilder 0.44
CCE 2.66sp/ECLCCE 1.8
MPEG2DEC3dg/DVD2AVIdg
AVISynth 2.5
Sonic RecordNow for the burn (came w/my burner; my old copy of Nero can't use my Lite-On :mad: )
WinXP(SP1)

@jdobbs: Just want to say that your app is one of the coolest things I've run across on Doom9- it's almost too easy!:D And running ECLCCE/CCE 3 pass without filters, it's also wicked fast! From start to finish on my box (XP2400+/512MB DDR/WinXP), it only took ~3hrs, and the picture quality is excellent, IMO. I'm used to doing my backups with D2S, then using IFOEdit/mDVDAuth to rebuild and re-author, which is an excellent combo, but takes me about 8-12 hours to produce a backup I'm happy with (I'm very picky); and often without original menus, etc. With DVD Rebuilder, I'm getting very close to the quality I'd get from tweaking with D2S/AVISynth/CCE, and the backup plays just like my master! Very Cool! Once I get the hang of this (and get my subtitle problems figured out), I'm definately planning to do a bit of donating... Thanks again for this handy little app!

Oh, and since this is my first post, I'd like to thank all the people here at Doom9, especially DVD2SVCD, all the AVISynth folks, and the mods for their help in teaching me more than I ever thought I'd want to know about MPEG2, encoding, filtering etc.! You guys Rock!:D

Joergen

24th April 2004, 21:50

So far its been rather consistantly Samsung players that cant display the subs. And one JVC (perhaps with samsung components inside).

Mn3m0n1c

24th April 2004, 21:57

Thanks for the tip! I was afraid it was something like that; my Samsung's been a workhorse for me w/VCD, SVCD, etc., but I just got my Lite-On 811S, so these are the first actual DVD's i'm creating. I'll have to try 'em in another player (time for a trip to Circuit City-:p ), and see if a Panasonic or Sony will work. Oh, well, I've been thinking of getting a Prog-scan player, anyhow...

nwg

24th April 2004, 22:02

It is also seems to only affect R1 with Kill Bill. I managed to do the R2 version just fine and the subs appear as they should.

I have tried it

Computer via powerdvd
Cyberhome CHDVD 400 DVD player
Sony NS900V DVD player
Panasonic HS2 DVD recorder

lab-one

24th April 2004, 22:35

I've made a complete back-up of kill bill R1 and the japanese-to-english subs work fine on my Sony DVP725. Not sure that it is an R1 issue.

jojje_l

24th April 2004, 22:48

The one I tried this time is CSI Season 1, PAL, Region 2. Others has been season discs of other tv shows, all Region 2 and PAL. Same problem with them, subtitles are selectable but doesn´t show on my standalone... I know that my Samsung is VERY picky, but as long as the movies follows the dvd standards 100% (my own experience with different dvd´s...) it plays everything. There must be something wrong in the rebuild phase, I mean, the original dvd´s don´t have this problem. Or am I totally out of it?

Mutant_Fruit

24th April 2004, 22:53

If you try and encode something thats less than an 4.36gb's (i.e. something that is already smaller than a DVD+R) then you get an error9. Something about invalid subscript...

jdobbs

24th April 2004, 23:16

Originally posted by Mutant_Fruit
If you try and encode something thats less than an 4.36gb's (i.e. something that is already smaller than a DVD+R) then you get an error9. Something about invalid subscript... I think it must be something else. I've done numerous encodes of discs less than 4.36Gb -- I've even done them down to a couple of megabytes.

Joergen

24th April 2004, 23:21

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think it must be something else. I've done numerous encodes of discs less than 4.36Gb -- I've even done them down to a couple of megabytes.

So far I've processed almost all disc with dvdshrink to remove subs first, but one disc I did recently gave an error 9 on preparing and it was cause of the shrink processing. Without it, the disc encoded and rebuilt fine.

So if you get error 9 on prepare, and did it through shrink, trying without preprocessing might help.

Ps love your new signature jdobbs :D

andal1208

26th April 2004, 22:58

1. DVD-R Version: 0.45 (beta)
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? N

The VTS contains only one still frame and audio which is some minutes long. When trying to rebuild the first part DVD-RB produces an "buffer overflow Error #4". Maybe the crash results from the difference of audio and video length.

Thanks for the great tool,
Andal

jdobbs

27th April 2004, 02:20

Originally posted by andal1208
1. DVD-R Version: 0.45 (beta)
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? N

The VTS contains only one still frame and audio which is some minutes long. When trying to rebuild the first part DVD-RB produces an "buffer overflow Error #4". Maybe the crash results from the difference of audio and video length.

Thanks for the great tool,
Andal Did you redo the entire thing from scratch or just try to rebuild?

huesage

27th April 2004, 04:11

I hope this helps:

1. DVD-R Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Yes
4. Bug encountered: "run-time error '9': Subscript out of range"
5. DVD: The Big Lebowski NTSC.

Error showed up in rebuild phase of the process, I had checked to use half D1 for the extras, this version of "the big lebowski" has fullscreen, widescreen and extras.

andal1208

27th April 2004, 07:02

Originally posted by jdobbs
Did you redo the entire thing from scratch or just try to rebuild?
Sorry, I do not fully understand what this question means, but I try to describe how I did it.
Usually I prepare more than on DVD to rebuild. Then I merge the ECL files and encode the whole bunch.
After that I open the saved projects and press the rebuild button.
So I would rather say I redid it from scratch.
Sorry I forgot to say that I first tried to encode all the extras in "half D1" to save space. But with still frames you do not win too much I guess ;-)
After the first failed rebuild I encoded the still frames with full D1 but this did not work either.
Does it matter for rebuild, if the format of the video is changed by hand ?

Thanks a lot,
Andal

SAPSTAR

27th April 2004, 15:46

1. DVD-R Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.27
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.81)
4. Bug encountered: THE HAUNTED MANSION 16:9 NTSC, Half-D1 and Half Space on extras : During the rebuild phase, I got a runtime error 9 subscript out of range. This movie has 13 VTS, It seems to do the error in the last VTS, but the process status bar is showing 75% which is not making sense because this last VTS is very small it should be at least at 95% :confused: .....I don't know if this info can help

@jdobbs : if you need more info, let me know....

PioSpec

29th April 2004, 11:49

I have problem:
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.23
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.7b)

When I want to click encode button I have message "Limitation of trial version" "Can't open ecl file"

Could you help me?

ok I have already. It was stupid question :)

jdobbs

29th April 2004, 12:01

1. Please don't post problems associated with cracked software. This is not a warez site.

2. Your "cracked" CCE version doesn't appeared to be cracked.

insanescape

29th April 2004, 14:00

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.27
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.81)
4. Matrix Revolutions - Half D1 for extras.

I get an error 9 - subscript out of range error when it's trying to rebuild VTS_02_0.VOB. 02_1 and 02_0's ifo and bup are fine.

I did half-d1 for extras on Natural Born Killers with .44 and it worked fine, though it has larger extras and the ones on Revolutions are pretty small.

Djuby

29th April 2004, 23:06

I made a backup using the "Half-D1 And Half Space For Extras" feature and the result came out very undersized - 3.86 GB. Here is part of the log:

-----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 10:23:56
- Note: "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 1,987,540 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 139,391 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 1,937,422 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 119,552 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 55.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,052Kbs
HALF-D1 Extras increased Main-Movie bitrate by 25.8%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,763/1,000/3,052 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
-----------------

VTS_03 are the extras.

DVD-RB v0.45 with CCE SP 2.67.00.23. Am I using the feature correct?

Djuby

Harm

30th April 2004, 15:52

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.45
2. Encoder trying to use: CCE SP 2.67.00.23 or CCE SP 2.50.01.00
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.7b and 1.5c)
4. Demo DVD Highlights 2001.

First congrats on your building this magnificent tool!
This is my first testrun and so I'm stumbling on some problems which maybe are because I did something wrong myself.....
:cool:

As you can see I am trying to use CCE SP versions. In the setup I supplied their paths in CCE SP 2.50 and CCE SP (new) leaving the path for CCE Basic blank.
I am using the three button approach.

Question: should I specify the CCE exe itself or the ECLCCE exe "belonging" to it? The help text file isn't clear about this.

After I prepared the test DVD (which takes far more than the 4-5 minutes mentioned in help text file.....) I hit Encode to get an error: "No CCE path has been set. Use menu Options/Setup to configure"
Does this mean that filling the CCE Basic path is mandatory?
As I haven't (yet) got CCE Basic this will be a problem.

So I supplied some dummy exe which has nothing to do with CCE for CCE SP 2.50 and selected CCE SP 2.66+ for the encode.
When I hit encode to my astonishment the dummy exe gets executed and not CCE SP 2.66+! The same happens when I select CCE SP 2.50!
When I stop the process and return to the CCE selection the selection has indeed automatically gone back to CCE Basic!
So something is wrong here..... :rolleyes:

Additional I have some minor things:
- What's the use of naming the first button Prepare when starting rebuilder and changing it to Process after the first preparation?
- There is no option to clear out path settings (besides deleting the line out of the ini file) or am I missing it?

SAPSTAR

30th April 2004, 15:59

Originally posted by insanescape
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.27
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.81)
4. Matrix Revolutions - Half D1 for extras.

I get an error 9 - subscript out of range error when it's trying to rebuild VTS_02_0.VOB. 02_1 and 02_0's ifo and bup are fine.

I did half-d1 for extras on Natural Born Killers with .44 and it worked fine, though it has larger extras and the ones on Revolutions are pretty small.

Try to increase the bitrate for the cells under 1000bps (In general, I put 1500bps), then reencode them ...Then rebuild. It always worked for me.

RobertR

30th April 2004, 16:25

Originally posted by Harm

Question: should I specify the CCE exe itself or the ECLCCE exe "belonging" to it? The help text file isn't clear about this.
Ermm... actually testing it is probably fastest way to find it out. EclCCE is way of overcoming CCE's inability to load ECL files. If your version can't load them directly you must point DVD-RB to EclCCE.

After I prepared the test DVD (which takes far more than the 4-5 minutes mentioned in help text file.....) I hit Encode to get an error: "No CCE path has been set. Use menu Options/Setup to configure"
Does this mean that filling the CCE Basic path is mandatory?
As I haven't (yet) got CCE Basic this will be a problem.
Time is there only for example.. Surely it doesn't take considerably longer on your setup :D
As for the error i must admit i got caught on this too. Have a look at Options/CCE Options menu and pick correct CCE there (by default CCE Basic is selected there). You must choose one of CCE SP versions.

jdobbs

30th April 2004, 23:58

Originally posted by Harm
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.45
2. Encoder trying to use: CCE SP 2.67.00.23 or CCE SP 2.50.01.00
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.7b and 1.5c)
4. Demo DVD Highlights 2001.

First congrats on your building this magnificent tool!
This is my first testrun and so I'm stumbling on some problems which maybe are because I did something wrong myself.....
:cool:

As you can see I am trying to use CCE SP versions. In the setup I supplied their paths in CCE SP 2.50 and CCE SP (new) leaving the path for CCE Basic blank.
I am using the three button approach.

Question: should I specify the CCE exe itself or the ECLCCE exe "belonging" to it? The help text file isn't clear about this.

After I prepared the test DVD (which takes far more than the 4-5 minutes mentioned in help text file.....) I hit Encode to get an error: "No CCE path has been set. Use menu Options/Setup to configure"
Does this mean that filling the CCE Basic path is mandatory?
As I haven't (yet) got CCE Basic this will be a problem.

So I supplied some dummy exe which has nothing to do with CCE for CCE SP 2.50 and selected CCE SP 2.66+ for the encode.
When I hit encode to my astonishment the dummy exe gets executed and not CCE SP 2.66+! The same happens when I select CCE SP 2.50!
When I stop the process and return to the CCE selection the selection has indeed automatically gone back to CCE Basic!
So something is wrong here..... :rolleyes:

Additional I have some minor things:
- What's the use of naming the first button Prepare when starting rebuilder and changing it to Process after the first preparation?
- There is no option to clear out path settings (besides deleting the line out of the ini file) or am I missing it? If you don't want to use CCE Basic as your encoder you have to select something else under the "mode" menu. If you are using eclCCE you must first run it in standalone mode and point it to your CCE executable. Then you point the CCE path to eclCCE.exe/

jdobbs

1st May 2004, 00:01

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
1. DVD-R Version: 0.45
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.0.27
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.81)
4. Bug encountered: THE HAUNTED MANSION 16:9 NTSC, Half-D1 and Half Space on extras : During the rebuild phase, I got a runtime error 9 subscript out of range. This movie has 13 VTS, It seems to do the error in the last VTS, but the process status bar is showing 75% which is not making sense because this last VTS is very small it should be at least at 95% :confused: .....I don't know if this info can help

@jdobbs : if you need more info, let me know.... The bar gets updated when a cell is completed. So the failure probably occurred on the next to last segment.

Harm

1st May 2004, 00:06

Originally posted by jdobbs
If you don't want to use CCE Basic as your encoder you have to select something else under the "mode" menu. If you are using eclCCE you must first run it in standalone mode and point it to your CCE executable. Then you point the CCE path to eclCCE.exe/
I do want to use CCE but not the Basic version but the SP version!
Although you offer the option to select CCE SP versions on the CCE options still CCE Basic gets executed! Surely this is not what is supposed to happen!
To recap: I check CCE in the Mode options and CCE SP in the CCE options in the Options menu.

jdobbs

1st May 2004, 00:19

Originally posted by Harm
I do want to use CCE but not the Basic version but the SP version!
Although you offer the option to select CCE SP versions on the CCE options still CCE Basic gets executed! Surely this is not what is supposed to happen!
To recap: I check CCE in the Mode options and CCE SP in the CCE options in the Options menu. That just means you must have pointed the others to the wrong place in the SETUP.

Harm

1st May 2004, 00:26

Originally posted by jdobbs
That just means you must have pointed the others to the wrong place in the SETUP.
I think I don't make myself clear......
I have selected CCE in the Mode menu and CCE SP 2.66+ in the CCE Options menu.
When I try to encode with these options and the path for CCE Basic in the Setup menu is empty I get the error stated.
If I put some exe in there and specify the right exe for CCE SP 2.66+ in its own path still the exe out of the CCE Basic path gets executed!
So whatever you choose in the CCE Options menu CCE Basic gets executed!

Joergen

1st May 2004, 00:28

Originally posted by Harm
So whatever you choose in the CCE Options menu CCE Basic gets executed!

You need to rerun the PREPARE stage in order to overwrite the old settings.. or?

lab-one

1st May 2004, 01:14

...or since this is a problem that know one else is having, remove all DVD-RB files and the D2VAVS folder, reinstall DVD-RB and set it up correctly with the version of CCE you intend on using. If you have to use ECLCCE delete the exe and files associated also and run it again to point it at the correct cce.exe.

Then, start the back-up from scratch.

insanescape

1st May 2004, 01:41

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
Try to increase the bitrate for the cells under 1000bps (In general, I put 1500bps), then reencode them ...Then rebuild. It always worked for me.

Where exactly do I do that? it says an average in the ecl file, but it's well over 2kbps. If there's individual cell things I'm missing I'm not aware where to look.

Harm

1st May 2004, 20:57

Originally posted by Joergen
You need to rerun the PREPARE stage in order to overwrite the old settings.. or?
You are right Joergen! The help file doesn't tell me that!

Is this what is meant to happen JDobbs? When I select CCE and CCE Basic when I run the preparation I also have to select this on the Encode? If so it would be better not to let the user change the CCE options after the preparation phase. If not then definitely something is wrong......
anyway I got it running.....

And BTW JDobbs should the ECL phase be just 1 pass? (when creating the M2V files).

On with further experimenting...... :D

jdobbs

1st May 2004, 22:42

Originally posted by Harm
You are right Joergen! The help file doesn't tell me that!

Is this what is meant to happen JDobbs? When I select CCE and CCE Basic when I run the preparation I also have to select this on the Encode? If so it would be better not to let the user change the CCE options after the preparation phase. If not then definitely something is wrong......
anyway I got it running.....

And BTW JDobbs should the ECL phase be just 1 pass? (when creating the M2V files).

On with further experimenting...... :D You have to complete a job with the same choices you started... As for locking out changes, let me think about that.

Harm

1st May 2004, 22:51

Thanks for the answers JDobbs.....
but how about the ECL passes?
In expert options there is 2 passes specified.
When ECL starts it does 1/1 passes (VAF and M2V creation I guess) but after that it starts with the next segment. Shouldn't there be an encode in there or does that happen when rebuilding?

Joergen

1st May 2004, 22:53

.VAF is information gathered from the video and then it writes the .M2V = Final encode of that segment.

smlong426

2nd May 2004, 16:10

I know this was discussed earlier in this thread, but is there a problem with the TargetSectors=xxx and CCETargetSectors=xxx?

I have encoded a movie twice with different values for the number of sectors, and the rebuilt movie always comes out to be the same size.

Here is a snip from my rebuilder.ini. I tried 2280000 at first, but then tried what is listed below. I am using RB 0.46.

[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
CCETargetSectors=2300000
[Options]
CCE=1
LoadPlugin=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
TargetSectors=2300000
HalfExtras=1

wmansir

2nd May 2004, 16:41

I added a new "hidden settings" post to the settings guide.

1. TargetSectors= is not used anymore, even though the readme says it is (the readme also says it was 'removed', so it's not all wrong :) )

2. All *Sectors= settings must be placed in the [Options] section, otherwise they are ignored.

Djuby

4th May 2004, 17:51

I am still fuzzy on the Half-D1 And Half Space for extras feature. When I use it the log shows that I have 25.2% in favor of the main movie, but for some reason that extra space is not allocated. The Extras were encoded with Half-D1 and Half Space. Am I supposed to go and manually increase the avarage bit rate in the ecl file for all the cells of the main movie?

Djuby

jdobbs

4th May 2004, 18:32

Originally posted by Djuby
I am still fuzzy on the Half-D1 And Half Space for extras feature. When I use it the log shows that I have 25.2% in favor of the main movie, but for some reason that extra space is not allocated. The Extras were encoded with Half-D1 and Half Space. Am I supposed to go and manually increase the avarage bit rate in the ecl file for all the cells of the main movie?

Djuby It is allocated to the movie proportionally to the amount of space determined in the "dynamically assigned cell bitrates".

Djuby

4th May 2004, 18:41

jdobbs,

Take a look at this:
-----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 10:23:56
- Note: "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 1,987,540 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 139,391 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 1,937,422 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 119,552 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 55.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,052Kbs
HALF-D1 Extras increased Main-Movie bitrate by 25.8%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,763/1,000/3,052 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
-----------------

VTS_03 are the extras.

DVD-RB v0.45 with CCE SP 2.67.00.23.
Average bit rate did not change from what I had when Half-D1 was disabled. After completing the backup the final result was 3.86 GB. Any ideas? Thank you in advance.

Djuby

jdobbs

4th May 2004, 19:34

Interesting. Thanks for the data, I'll check into it...

jdobbs

4th May 2004, 19:46

Originally posted by Djuby
jdobbs,

Take a look at this:
-----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 10:23:56
- Note: "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_02: 1,987,540 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 139,391 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 1,937,422 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 119,552 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 55.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,052Kbs
HALF-D1 Extras increased Main-Movie bitrate by 25.8%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,763/1,000/3,052 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
-----------------

VTS_03 are the extras.

DVD-RB v0.45 with CCE SP 2.67.00.23.
Average bit rate did not change from what I had when Half-D1 was disabled. After completing the backup the final result was 3.86 GB. Any ideas? Thank you in advance.

Djuby I don't believe you have dynamic bitrate checked. I just found a bug in which -> if you check the half-d1 option, and then uncheck the dynamic bitrate box, it will incorrectly print out as you show above... The 1/2-1/2 function is meant to only work when dynamic bitrate is enabled... -- it also is the reason you've come out short, because the extra space is recovered -- but never reallocated to the movie.

I will put a fix into 0.47 in which 1/2-1/2 is automatically unchecked whenever dynamic allocation is unchecked to avoid this confusion and incorrect sizing.

Djuby

4th May 2004, 20:00

jdobbs,

I don't believe you have dynamic bitrate checked. I just found a bug in which -> if you check the half-d1 option, and then uncheck the dynamic bitrate box, it will incorrectly print out as you show above... The 1/2-1/2 function is meant to only work when dynamic bitrate is enabled... -- it also is the reason you've come out short, because the extra space is recovered -- but never reallocated to the movie.

I just double checked if I have Dynamic Bitrate checked ... and it was. Anyway, thanks for the quick response, and I'll wait for the fix. Thank you in advance.

Djuby

Harm

4th May 2004, 20:38

Originally posted by Joergen
.VAF is information gathered from the video and then it writes the .M2V = Final encode of that segment.
But what's the use in specifying the number of passes then?
If you run ECL by hand it normally passes the specified number of times and from run 2 onwards the VAF is updated..... or not?

jdobbs

5th May 2004, 01:34

Originally posted by Djuby
jdobbs,

I just double checked if I have Dynamic Bitrate checked ... and it was. Anyway, thanks for the quick response, and I'll wait for the fix. Thank you in advance.

Djuby FYI. I finally found what this was, and it wasn't what I said above. I went back and checked that code and it was actually working correctly. But in the process I found the real bug... it was also what caused some strange status output (negative high bitrate) that RB (I think) reported a while back...

You'll see the fix in 0.47.

sup191

5th May 2004, 04:18

I posted this in the other bug report thread, but this one seems to get more play. :)

DVD-RB Version: 0.45 and 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23 and .29
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
DVD: Fletch Lives NTSC R1

I have an audio sync problem on just chapter 11 of this DVD. All the other chapters are flawless. I noticed the problem when using InterVideo WinDVD 5 (newest updated version), and am playing the movie off my hard drive. When I play chapter 11 from the original directory that I dumped it to, it plays perfectly. Any clues?

I haven't touched the directory after running the one click, so if you need any info from there, let me know.

I also have tried .30 with the above settings and still get audio sync problems with chapter 11. I've done about 20 other backups and none of them have had this problem.

deh707

5th May 2004, 05:49

when you guys play your dvd-r backup on your dvdplayer (standalone), are the subtitles on by default? i have to manually turn them off after i hit "play movie" on matrix revolutions. both my standalone and xbox display the subtitles by default. powerdvd on my pc doesn't.

using:

cce sp 2.50
dvd-rb .46

burned video_ts folder using:
stomp recordnow max OR nero burning rom

sup191

5th May 2004, 15:19

Originally posted by deh707
when you guys play your dvd-r backup on your dvdplayer (standalone), are the subtitles on by default? i have to manually turn them off after i hit "play movie" on matrix revolutions. both my standalone and xbox display the subtitles by default. powerdvd on my pc doesn't.

I have never had this problem, and I've done around 20 backups /w subtitles. Are you having problems with just Matrix Revolutions, or other titles also? I'm assuming you're using DVD-RB to rip the DVD directly from your drive?

insanescape

5th May 2004, 15:25

No problem with matrix revos here, I just did it last week.

nwg

5th May 2004, 16:09

Originally posted by deh707
when you guys play your dvd-r backup on your dvdplayer (standalone), are the subtitles on by default? i have to manually turn them off after i hit "play movie" on matrix revolutions. both my standalone and xbox display the subtitles by default. powerdvd on my pc doesn't.

The reason why PowerDVD doesn't is that the subs need to be turned on first.

I don't have the problem with my DVD players, but this problem is common with other software. I have had it with DVD2One and DVD Shrink. The author of DVD Shrink has solved the problem by using a hide subpicture command. This is similar to the ifoedit method I used.

It can happen when the PUO's are taken off, as there is a PUO that hides the subtitles on default.

Turambar

5th May 2004, 19:11

Originally posted by deh707
when you guys play your dvd-r backup on your dvdplayer (standalone), are the subtitles on by default? i have to manually turn them off after i hit "play movie" on matrix revolutions. both my standalone and xbox display the subtitles by default. powerdvd on my pc doesn't.

using:

cce sp 2.50
dvd-rb .46

burned video_ts folder using:
stomp recordnow max OR nero burning rom

Yep, I get exactly the same behavior --- "Master and Commander", "Avalon", "Timeline", to name a few. Standalone player is a Gateway dvd recorder, but I've also noticed it on my old Apex 1100W.
Also using cce sp 2.50 & dvd-rb 0.46:confused:

jdobbs

6th May 2004, 02:16

I don't get that problem at all on any of my three players.

quantum

6th May 2004, 02:36

This could be the result of setting DVD Decrypter to remove PUO's.

jdobbs

6th May 2004, 03:00

Originally posted by quantum
This could be the result of setting DVD Decrypter to remove PUO's. Very good observation. Because I don't. It's always been my rule to leave the backup as closely matched to the original as possible -- less problems all around. Sometimes we tend to get so clever that we suffer self-inflicted wounds.

I'm not saying that is the case here -- but it often is.

DocDragon

6th May 2004, 06:54

Originally posted by quantum
This could be the result of setting DVD Decrypter to remove PUO's.

hmm, that's a good point. i didn't encounter anymore problems since v0.45 (unless using half-d1 -> jdobbs, you opened pandorra's box :D). i always have "remove PUOs" UNchecked to keep everything as original as possible. but isn't that just an "on/off" switch that dvd-players should understand (question for the expert ;))?

DD

wmansir

6th May 2004, 09:08

I'm encountering a few odd bugs with the DVD-RB. For one thing DVD-RB doesn't respond to the switching of CCE versions on the menu. It launched the original version set. I was also getting the Windows Logoff/Shutdown/Restart window when aborting the encode, thought that could somehow be related to the other error. I think perhaps the settings were getting messed up and Shutdown when finished was activated, even though it wasn't technically finished, and that option wasn't enabled, and shouldn't be activated in 3-click mode anyway.

I think perhaps it might be due to having an .ini file full of junk from previous versions. Or does DVD-RB lock into a CCE version after the prepare stage? I deleted the .ini file and am running another job (it lauched the right version this time), but I won't be able to test it out any more until morning.

PS. Would it be possible to move the "shutdown" feature to a place where you can toogle it when in the middle of a 1-click job? As of now it is on the MODE menu and that get's locked down.

6th May 2004, 09:31

Originally posted by quantum
This could be the result of setting DVD Decrypter to remove PUO's.
I highly doubt that. PUOs really only prohibit user operations. That is, although the DVD author may set a subpicture stream change PUO on the PGC, he can still switch subpicture streams "internally" using SetSTN PGC pre/post commands. IOW, IMHO it's virtually impossible for a removed PUO to cause a subpic stream to be switched on automatically. My guess is that it is maybe just another symptom of the "empty subpic sync table in NAVPACKs issue". For some SA players it causes subs to not work at all, maybe for others it's just the opposite? :cool: At least, the issue again occurs only in standalones.

Originally posted by jdobbs
Very good observation. Because I don't.
Not in the IFOs, but you said that you remove PUOs in the VOB NAVPACKs, right? I made a comment on that earlier, maybe you could have a look at it again :). See http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=464370#post464370

ermannob

6th May 2004, 10:55

Hi,
I told DVDRebuilder to deinterlace the stuff with Decomb, but it didn't do that.
Maybe I used wrong configuration?
Here's what I did:
-paths are correctly set
-in menu options -> AVS options -> Advanced (Expert) Options, I selected "Deinterlace with Decomb".
-I didn't select "disable interlace".

So AVS scripts don't contain any link to Decomb filter, just "field deinterlace".
DVD2AVI tells me that video is interlaced.

Did I something wrong?

Using DVDRB 0.46 (with "half D1 for extras" option)
CCE SP 2.67
eclCCE

sup191

6th May 2004, 17:33

DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE? Y 1.81
DVD: Thin Red Line NTSC R1

I'm having the exact same audio sync problem I did for Fletch Lives, only this time it's just chapter 1. Audio is off by about 1/4 of a second. Somebody mentioned it earlier, but is it possible that my .ini file is full of junk from previous builds and needs to be deleted? I haven't had any audio sync before the last two movies.

jdobbs

6th May 2004, 18:40

Originally posted by wmansir
I'm encountering a few odd bugs with the DVD-RB. For one thing DVD-RB doesn't respond to the switching of CCE versions on the menu. It launched the original version set. I was also getting the Windows Logoff/Shutdown/Restart window when aborting the encode, thought that could somehow be related to the other error. I think perhaps the settings were getting messed up and Shutdown when finished was activated, even though it wasn't technically finished, and that option wasn't enabled, and shouldn't be activated in 3-click mode anyway.

I think perhaps it might be due to having an .ini file full of junk from previous versions. Or does DVD-RB lock into a CCE version after the prepare stage? I deleted the .ini file and am running another job (it lauched the right version this time), but I won't be able to test it out any more until morning.

PS. Would it be possible to move the "shutdown" feature to a place where you can toogle it when in the middle of a 1-click job? As of now it is on the MODE menu and that get's locked down. DVD-RB is locked into a CCE version after the prepare stage. If you follow back through the versions you'll see that the ECL format keeps changing. So I have to build the ECL specifically for the version that was selected...

jdobbs

6th May 2004, 18:42

bloody1

6th May 2004, 19:03

I've been trying to convert several of my movies from letterboxed 4:3 to 16:9 using your program. It worked great on the Planet of the Apes series ( fantastic on my 55 inch Widescreen). But I'm having problems with Dawn of the Dead and One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.
With those movies, the picture will have lines in it during a transition from one scene to another. It doesn't happen often but it is noticeable and only happens during a scene transition. During regular play it appears as a quick blur, but when slowed down or paused you can see the lines of one scene mixing with the coming scene ( I hope I'm describing it correctly).
Any idea what is causing this or is it me???????

I'm using ReBuilder 0.45 with CCE 2.5

wmansir

6th May 2004, 19:56

@boody1

It sounds like an interlaced frame is being resized improperly. This was mostly fixed with v0.45 Modified the 4:3->16:9 output for interlaced sources so fields are separated prior to resizing and weaved back together after resizing. It should make for a more accurate representation of the source material.

I think that a large part of your movie must be progressive, so it is being treated as progressive, but a few interlaced frames are present.

6th May 2004, 20:25

Originally posted by RB
Not in the IFOs, but you said that you remove PUOs in the VOB NAVPACKs, right? I made a comment on that earlier, maybe you could have a look at it again :). See http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=464370#post464370
Originally posted by jdobbs
Correct. I should have been more specific.
Actually, in that post I made the suggestion to better keep the PUOs in the VOBs as they are for several reasons. Maybe you want to read it and think about whether I'm making sense :)

borgraf

6th May 2004, 21:24

Originally posted by bloody1
I've been trying to convert several of my movies from letterboxed 4:3 to 16:9 [snip]
OT: What's your experience with subtitles when doing the 4:3 -> 16:9 conversions? My attempts so far, on 3 different sources, have all resulted in only the first subtitle working.

bloody1

6th May 2004, 21:43

I hadn't checked the subtitles before ( didn't have a reason to yet) but you are correct. Only the first subtibles are working. Even if you select the second/third/etc... subtitle choice, the first one continues to be the only language shown.

bloody1

6th May 2004, 22:37

It seems the lines only appear on scene transitions that merge the ending frames of one scene with the first frames of another scene. In other words a scene of a helicopter fades out and the next scene is of a boat, but for several frames in between you can see the helicopter and boat on the same frame as one fades out and the other fades in.
It doesn't happen when the scene changes are instant.

Any help out there?????

Djuby

10th May 2004, 02:14

jdobbs,

I ecountered something which you might be interested in. Here is the situation. I was watching a backup I made with DVD-RB 0.47 and as the movie was playing it just froze, but the time counter was going on normal like playback never stopped. I tried it again and the same tning happened. Tried different standalone players with the same result. Power DVD was no exeption. I did a little investigation and what I found was that this freeze is between chapters. When I hit the next chapter button the problem chapter gets skipped.
http://auristechnology.com/officeuse/filelist.jpg
I marked the files that I tnink are creating the problem. The file after the marked one is the chapter that has to be played.

I can send you the REDUILDER.ECL and D2V file if you are interested.

Djuby

P.S. I also made the same backup with v.0.46 and had the same problem at exactly the same spot, so I think that the version is not an issue here.

htc10825

10th May 2004, 18:47

DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE 1.7b
DVD: Charie's Angels 2(full thr...)

I've selected "half res. and half bitrate" option.
the main movie subs and all the BOV feature are OK, but in all extras with half D1 res. the subtitles are destroied bitmaps... so I must return to BIG3 method...

Sir Didymus

10th May 2004, 20:39

DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE 1.8b
DVD: Terminator 2 (PAL, R2)
All options set at their default value.

The first VTS is quite rich of menus for scene selection.
The prepare, encode and rebuild steps were completed without errors.

Ok. I dont like specifically this kind of movies..., but I was really happy because this title
was really troublesome in my experience since the beginning of my tests with DVD-RB: never
being able to rebuild it until the release of DVD-RB version supporting BOV...

The bad news was that playing the title with PowerDVD, one of the menus (vobid 49, cellid 1) played
in a very jerky manner and the 6 buttons in the still image were not present at all. I tried many
times to reencode the single wrong segment but at the end the m2v file produced by CCE was always a
file (V01004800049001.m2v) of 48 Kbytes.

I would report that after the manual replacement of the bad m2v file (taking a new m2v file, long 110 Kbytes,
demuxed from the original with Vobedit), and just redoing the rebuil step, the copy is now perfect.

Is anyone else having similar problems encoding still frames ?

swmiller

10th May 2004, 23:14

Originally posted by winny
I have an error message I don't believe has been posted previously.

The source is a PAL disk.
DVD-RB 0.28
Quenc 4.51
Dynamically assigned bitrates

The prepare and encode stages worked fine, however I got an error during the rebuild phase at 93.4%.

It got as far as segment 63, vobid:3, cellid:13, updating navpacks:-

"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"

(Nice message JDobbs )

I also tried redoing the whole process with CCE and got the same message at the same stage.

Has anyone else seen this before?

Originally posted by jdobbs
This means there is a mismatch between the VOBID/CELLID structure found in the VTSs and that in the IFO. The only way I can see this happening is if an IFO and/or VTS in the source path was changed between the time of "PREPARE" and "REBUILD". The IFO is attempting to reference a VOBID/CELLID that doesn't exist.

Is there a way to fix this? I have had it happen on some movies an not others. Is there something I may be doing to cause the problem?

nwg

11th May 2004, 00:37

I have had my first serious stuttering issue.

Star Trek TNG Season 1 Disc 2 PAL
DVD-RB 0.47
CCE 2.50
eclCCE 1.81

I got to chapter 5 of the fourth episode (Justice). It stuttered as it went from chapter 4 to 5. It was stuttering so badly that the picture went blocky/ If I tried to pause or scan forward/backward it looked fine. I skipped to chapter 6 and it was fine to the end of the episode.

I have also done Disc 1 of TNG and DS9 Season 1 Disc 1 and they were ok.

I have just completed The Last Samurai (PAL) and will watch it tommorow to check it.

jdobbs

11th May 2004, 01:09

Originally posted by swmiller
Is there a way to fix this? I have had it happen on some movies an not others. Is there something I may be doing to cause the problem? Are you modifying the DVD in some way (preprocessing using some other package) before running DVD-RB? That's the only think I can think that could cause this error. I put the message in only as a sanity check -- I really didn't expect to ever see it.

kadilak

11th May 2004, 01:16

I am happy to report that with DVD-RB v0.47, Rebuilder.exe no longer uses any CPU while waiting for CCE. It consistently uses less than 1% on my machine now.

Awesome work jdobbs!

jdobbs

11th May 2004, 03:15

Thanks... glad to hear it.

swmiller

11th May 2004, 05:06

@jdobbs
Waterworld I used Shrink to do movie only rip before running it through rebuilder..... but Gladiator & Frailty were full movie rips also using shrink.

Djuby

11th May 2004, 05:24

@jdobbs,

DVD-RB 0.47
CCE SP 2.67.00.23

Great job on the new version. CCE went from 2.40 to 3.03 on a 2.8 GHz P4 with HT enabled. Ufortunately I have to report a "Run-time error 6: Overflow" on the first step - Prepare. It's the first time it happened to me. Tried with 0.46 - same thing. The disk it happened on is Star Trek Next Generation Season 2 Disk 5 (R1/NTSC).

Tested Half-D1 and Half Space for extras and it worked great. The extra space was allocated properly to the main movie. In my particular case it almost doubled the bit rate of the main movie ... it came out awesome!!!

Djuby

280zx

11th May 2004, 08:36

Very nice work jdobbs. With dvdrb .47 I went from 2.7 speed with cce 2.67, to 3.1 with my 3.2ghz pentium 4. Dvdrb is now using 0% cpu while cce is encoding as opposed to 24% with dvdrb .46. Thanks for the excellent program.

jdobbs

11th May 2004, 11:50

Originally posted by Djuby
@jdobbs,

DVD-RB 0.47
CCE SP 2.67.00.23

Great job on the new version. CCE went from 2.40 to 3.03 on a 2.8 GHz P4 with HT enabled. Ufortunately I have to report a "Run-time error 6: Overflow" on the first step - Prepare. It's the first time it happened to me. Tried with 0.46 - same thing. The disk it happened on is Star Trek Next Generation Season 2 Disk 5 (R1/NTSC).

Tested Half-D1 and Half Space for extras and it worked great. The extra space was allocated properly to the main movie. In my particular case it almost doubled the bit rate of the main movie ... it came out awesome!!!

Djuby I own the entire STNG (R1/NTSC) series. I'll get it out tonight and try Season 2, Disc 5.

swmiller

11th May 2004, 14:46

@jdobbs
I started over again with the same waterworld rip that I recieved the "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer" using CCE SP 2.67 and this time I used Quenc .51 with rebuilder .47. This time there was no errors.........

ChickenMan

11th May 2004, 15:09

Originally posted by nwg
I have had my first serious stuttering issue.

Star Trek TNG Season 1 Disc 2 PAL
DVD-RB 0.47
CCE 2.50
eclCCE 1.81

I got to chapter 5 of the fourth episode (Justice). It stuttered as it went from chapter 4 to 5. It was stuttering so badly that the picture went blocky/ If I tried to pause or scan forward/backward it looked fine. I skipped to chapter 6 and it was fine to the end of the episode.

I have also done Disc 1 of TNG and DS9 Season 1 Disc 1 and they were ok.

I have just completed The Last Samurai (PAL) and will watch it tommorow to check it.
Not sure if its related but Disk 2 of TNG has parts of some of the eps with Field Order different from the reast. I cant remember which way around they were as I did them a long time ago. Its only Disk 2 of the First Series that has the problem.

Djuby

14th May 2004, 05:12

jdobbs,

I don't know if you had a chance to look at this:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=489656#post489656

I tried it with 0.48 and had the same problem again. I'll appreciate it very much if you could give it a try. Thank you in advance.

DVD-RB 0.48
CCE SP 2.67.00.23
DVD is Star Trek Next Generation Season 2 Disk 3

Djuby

P.S. The "Run-time error 6: Overflow" at prepare step is gone with the 0.48 version. Great job!!!!

jdobbs

15th May 2004, 04:01

Originally posted by Djuby
jdobbs,

I don't know if you had a chance to look at this:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=489656#post489656

I tried it with 0.48 and had the same problem again. I'll appreciate it very much if you could give it a try. Thank you in advance.

DVD-RB 0.48
CCE SP 2.67.00.23
DVD is Star Trek Next Generation Season 2 Disk 3

Djuby

P.S. The "Run-time error 6: Overflow" at prepare step is gone with the 0.48 version. Great job!!!! I wish I'd read closer... I just loaded Disc 5 to test it and after I finished I noticed your P.S. I'll try Disc 3 now.

jdobbs

15th May 2004, 12:27

Originally posted by htc10825
DVD-RB Version: 0.46
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
Using eclCCE 1.7b
DVD: Charie's Angels 2(full thr...)

I've selected "half res. and half bitrate" option.
the main movie subs and all the BOV feature are OK, but in all extras with half D1 res. the subtitles are destroied bitmaps... so I must return to BIG3 method... Just do it without half d1. The bitmaps aren't destroyed... they more likely don't match the size of the picture.

jdobbs

15th May 2004, 12:42

Originally posted by Djuby
jdobbs,

I ecountered something which you might be interested in. Here is the situation. I was watching a backup I made with DVD-RB 0.47 and as the movie was playing it just froze, but the time counter was going on normal like playback never stopped. I tried it again and the same tning happened. Tried different standalone players with the same result. Power DVD was no exeption. I did a little investigation and what I found was that this freeze is between chapters. When I hit the next chapter button the problem chapter gets skipped.

I marked the files that I tnink are creating the problem. The file after the marked one is the chapter that has to be played.

I can send you the REDUILDER.ECL and D2V file if you are interested.

Djuby

P.S. I also made the same backup with v.0.46 and had the same problem at exactly the same spot, so I think that the version is not an issue here. What immediately catches my eye on this problem is the fact that (it appears) about 14 frames are created as a segment, followed by another segment -- both of which have the same vob/cell id set. That would happen correctly with a still -- but 14 frames is not a still. There's something wrong somewhere.. :confused:

assemblage

15th May 2004, 22:03

Rebuilder v0.48
CCE SP 2.67.00.27
Using EclCCE v1.81
Backing up 24 Season 1 Disc 2
This is a TV show on video that has a menu and 4 episodes. The Auto area shows only 2ch english audo. The VTS area shows only VTS_04 which is 6,150 Mbytes, 16:9.

All my settings are stock, but I did increase the number of passes to 3.

Cannot "UpdateIFO" error when doing the last step in the process,
"updating information in NAVPACKS" right after the
"Rebuilding segment 22 VOBID:4 CELLID:2" line. This is the last Cell I think, the Overall prograss bar is at the end/100%. If this isn't the last one, it's very close.

When I get the error I also get a message saying "stop statement encounterd". When I click ok on that dialog box, the program terminates and I cannot use the "Copy status to clipboard".

EDIT: I made the image and burned it to a DVD+RW and it seems to play ok. I haven't got to the end of the disc yet, but the main menu works fine and the seperate shows play fine for what I've seen.

EDIT: After watching the last part of the backup, it did stop. But sorry, it looks like the problem was probably with how I copied the original disc to the hard drive. It looks like all the data isn't there and that's probably why it couldn't finish the process. Error limited user headspace. I backed up 24 Season 1 Disc 1&3 with no problems.

Joergen

15th May 2004, 22:21

Originally posted by jdobbs
Just do it without half d1. The bitmaps aren't destroyed... they more likely don't match the size of the picture.

That guy just doesnt understand that DVDs are made to be decoded on hardware mpeg2 chips. I told him twice in the thread he created just for himself. For him "real" players are PowerDVD and WinDVD, and of course they are mere software players that in actuality dont adhere to the standard when it comes to bitmaps over the video and half-d1, and simply try to emulate the standard and a hardware decoder.

I'd say this is just another "pearls to the pigs" situation where a guy comes in, thinks of a silly thing to whine about and goes back to his *superior* methods. :rolleyes:

Djuby

16th May 2004, 03:47

Joergen,

I am with you on that one. Just look at the movie choice ... and the spelling ... some people say "Ignorance is bliss", but not in this case.

Djuby

jdobbs

16th May 2004, 04:14

@Djuby

Thanks for the tip on STNG Season 2, Disc 3. I was able to repeat the problem and finally traced it down (it took a while). There was a bug in the way I was flagging stills that made my code, when circumstances were just right, set incorrect timing values. As a result your player went blank waiting for the clock to catch up to the bogus display-time values. In this disc it was caused by a pair of I-Frames that were put at the end of a VOBU. This is also the probable cause of the (rare) reported audio drifting and off-by-some-fixed-amount audio errors.

I'll post the fix in a little while.

Great feedback.

Djuby

16th May 2004, 15:25

@jdobbs

I am glad to be of service :)

Toranaga

16th May 2004, 17:50

I am trying to backup James Bond: You Only Live Twice. But CCE crashes at the very first encoding and also later. It seems all the main movie files are OK and the crash is when encoding menu or extras. Really anoying :( I guess I will have to try a movie only rip :(

onesoul

17th May 2004, 16:32

@jdobbs

The problem Djuby exposed is the same I described earlier at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=486714#post486714 , maybe I should have been more persistent for you to notice. Anyway I will try new version to see if it is fixed.

Thanks

psdos

17th May 2004, 21:33

I dont know what happens with disney films but very films has audio frame drops. My disney films are all system PAL. Thanks jdobbs and continue so, great job.

DownUnder

18th May 2004, 11:10

I've found a little bug. It isn't so horrible, since it is in the features, anyway, here the report:

1. DVD-R Version: 0.49
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.00.27 trial
3. EclCCE v1.81, AviSynth 2.54, Decodefix 110
4. DVD: Tomb Raider 2, PAL
5. copied in file mode with DVD Decrypter v3.2.2.0 (or was it v3.2.1.0...not sure anymore)
6. Pentium M 1.6
7. Bug encountered:
When playing the alternate ending in the special features, there is a terrible syncronization problem. The audio is matching in no way, absolutely out of sync. I have only tested it on my Laptop with InterVideo and Power DVD. OK, since the special features are not so important and the quality are bad anyway, this is not so serious. But I thought someone might be interested in the peoblem.

BTW: When using the transcoder Recode v2.0.18, the bug doesn't appear.

Cheers

P.S.: Sorry that I don't have anymore backgroud information...I'm not so professional in the technical things...

colinhunt

18th May 2004, 15:45

1. DVD-Rb 0.49
2. CCE 2.67.00.23 trial
3. EclCCE v1.81
4. "Auto focus" (dir. Paul Schrader) PAL R2 / Columbia Tristar

5. encoded in one click mode directly from DVD via AnyDVD 3.6.11; dynamically assign cell bitrates enabled; Half-D1 and Half Space for Extras enabled

6. AMD Athlon 2200+
7. Bug/problem: extras' subtitles are corrupted, they show up on screen as garbled graphics. Movie is 16:9, extras are 4:3.

.:colin

edit: Decided to take a screengrab of the problem with PowerDVD 5.0 and it displayed the subs just fine. WinDVD 4.5 Platinum shows the subs as corrupted, but it won't include subs in screengrabs.

robot1

18th May 2004, 18:58

@Jdobbs
It's more a suggestion:
what about a warning prompt when one select half D1?
A text like this: "Software players don't handle well subtitles for half D1 titles"...
If you write it in the readme or in a sticky, nobody will read it

:(

jdobbs

19th May 2004, 00:42

Originally posted by psdos
I dont know what happens with disney films but very films has audio frame drops. My disney films are all system PAL. Thanks jdobbs and continue so, great job. I've done many disney films and haven't had an audio drop yet. I'm NTSC, though...

the_eza

30th June 2004, 19:40

One more audio out of synch report:

DVD: Criterion's Hidden Fortress
SW: DVDRebuilder 0.54 + CCE 2.67
-One click mode
-dynamically assign cell bitrates enabled
-Steal Space from Extras: 50%

The extras in the result have audio badly out of synch. The movie itself is OK.

bubbie

30th June 2004, 23:54

Don't know if it has been mentioned before but here it is:

I tried to copy Bridget Jones's Diary (dutch PAL rental version) and between 46.50 min. and 47.00 min. there's a glitch and the audio gets out of sync (right after the scene change), but when you select a scene after this point trough the chapter selection screen it works just fine.

I'm using dvd-rb 0.54 (older versions did the same) with CCE SP 2.67.00.23 (eclCCE)

no extra's compression, removed 2 subs, 2 audio tracks, used 5 passes
One click mode, dynamically assign cell bitrates enabled

hope this helps,

bub

Harm

1st July 2004, 00:51

Originally posted by bubbie
I tried to copy Bridget Jones's Diary (dutch PAL rental version) and between 46.50 min. and 47.00 min. there's a glitch and the audio gets out of sync (right after the scene change), but when you select a scene after this point trough the chapter selection screen it works just fine.
Couldn't this be the layer break? Does the original stutter in the same place?

bubbie

1st July 2004, 19:18

Originally posted by Harm
Couldn't this be the layer break? Does the original stutter in the same place?

I don't have the original disc anymore, but I still have the original copy (made with DVDdecrypter) and at exactly the same place there is a slight click or volume drop for just a moment, so yes, it could be a layer break.

I also copied this dvd using doitfast4u, batchcce, etc. and it works fine.

loosenut

1st July 2004, 19:59

Can an admin edit or delete the three posts above, for OBVIOUS reasons? TIA.
@ bubbie: read the site FAQ, please?

jdobbs

1st July 2004, 23:50

Originally posted by bubbie
I don't have the original disc anymore, but I still have the original copy (made with DVDdecrypter) and at exactly the same place there is a slight click or volume drop for just a moment, so yes, it could be a layer break.

I also copied this dvd using doitfast4u, batchcce, etc. and it works fine. Please don't tell me anything other than "Thank God I had the backup when my dog ate the original..." -- remember this site does not advocate piracy.

bubbie

2nd July 2004, 01:50

Originally posted by jdobbs
Please don't tell me anything other than "Thank God I had the backup when my dog ate the original..." -- remember this site does not advocate piracy.

Did I say Bridget Jones, I meant my home made movie that I burned to a dual layer dvd. :scared:

lamster

13th August 2004, 20:03

Using QuEnc 0.53 and Rebuilder 0.56, I get a pop-up saying "Bad Parameter" each time QuEnc is invoked.

A little debugging shows it's the "-nokvcd" option that QuEnc objects to. Checking Rebuilder's QuEnc option "KVCD 'Notch' Matrix' didn't help, because Rebuilder then sends a "-kvcd" option, which QuEnc doesn't like any better.

As a temporary fix, I edited Rebuilder.exe and changed each of these strings to blanks. Notes:
- You must use an editor capable of handling binary files.
- The strings are Unicode, which means that each ASCII character is followed by a 0 byte.

So, the 2 changes, in hex, are:
From: 2d00 6b00 7600 6300 6400
To: 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000

From: 2d00 6e00 6f00 6b00 7600 6300 6400
To: 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000 2000

rickchild

16th August 2004, 15:23

Rebuilder 0.56
CCE SP 2.67.00.23 using ECLCCE

Backing up my X-Files DVD sets, I have done series 1+2 previously with the same software versions (and excellent quality even for such large discs). I have now attempted to do my series 3 and get the following error at the encode stage:

---------------------------
CCE SP [SSG] Version
---------------------------
Frame size 888x56 is not supported. Supported frame size is up to 720x576.

I have installed SP2 since doing the other series so could this have affected DVD-RB, or would it be possible that the different series is put on the disc differently and it is having trouble detecting?

rickchild

16th August 2004, 15:38

Sorry to have bothered you all I have fixed this now myself.

For some reason the target file for MPEG2Dec3dg.dll was set at MPEG2Dec3.dll in DVD-RB so this was not being loaded. I was too quick to blame SP2!

Strange as I haven't touched it since last using this program.

pboisso

1st January 2005, 00:09

Thanks for your help in solving this issue...

1. DVD-Rebuilder Version: 0.69 (Beta)
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort.

This is happening with only 2 of my DVDs. I've been able to successfully backup other DVDs no problem with the same settings.

5. Log file:
Transcoding...
-----------------
[12:17:16] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- VTS_01: 1,000,211 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 78,730 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 1,557,326 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 122,531 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 201,357 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 15,837 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 828,578 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 64,333 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_06: 82,204 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5,645 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 56.0%
- Overall Bitrate : 2,694Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,937,810KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 8,808/2,688/2,694 Kbs
[12:21:30] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[12:21:30] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_04 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_05 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 8
[17:35:15] Phase II ENCODING completed in 314 minutes.
[17:35:15] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 8
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 8
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_04
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Rebuilding segment 5 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 6
- Rebuilding segment 6 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 7
- Rebuilding segment 7 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 8
- Rebuilding segment 8 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 9
- Rebuilding segment 9 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 10
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_04_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_05
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4
- Rebuilding segment 4 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 5
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_05_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_06
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 1
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 2
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 3
- Rebuilding segment 3 VOBID: 1 CELLID: 4