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nwg
30th March 2004, 15:44
wmansir wrote,
Could it be due to stills being present? RB has a problem with stills, though I don't know the error code produced. I started to do BTTF II, but stopped when I noticed it contained stills.
It does have photos but it worked fine with CCE but not QuEnc. That is the weird thing.
djan
30th March 2004, 15:49
Hi,
I'm getting a CCE crash with "PANIC ROOM" DVD. There is the print screen :
http://users.skynet.be/djan/DVDRB_027-CCE_Crash.jpg
It's just after the fifth vaf just before beginning the m2v encoding of this same cell. I'm using CCE 2.50 with ECLECC 1.7b. What can be the problem ? The AVS file works well.
Originally posted by Taro
Hello,
I see, Top_Cat has the same problem, like me:
Phase II, Encoding process starts, CCE appears (with the path of ITEM.ECL file (F:\Test\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL) in the header of it), but nothing happens, CCE doesn't work although Rebuilder owns 100% processor time.
As I mentioned yesterday, I set the path of CCE in eclCCE and set the path of eclCCE in Rebuilder.
JDobbs or anyone, what can the problem be at Top_Cat and me?
(I'm using CCE SP Trial v2.67.011 with EclCCE v1.7b, OS: Win2000)
And the CCE window stays empty, no files listed etc.? Did you set the CCE process priority to Idle in the EclCCE settings in CCE? If so, try setting it to Normal or Default. Does this fix it?
Taro
30th March 2004, 16:09
Originally posted by RB
And the CCE window stays empty, no files listed etc.? Did you set the CCE process priority to Idle in the EclCCE settings in CCE? If so, try setting it to Normal or Default. Does this fix it?
Yes, no file is listed in CCE window.
I think, the priority was set to Default and after some trying I set it to High (or something like this). But it also didn't work.
I think, the priority affects only encoding the video, but not affects loading/saving ECL file. But I'll try your tip (I'll have possibility to test it unfortunately only tomorrow). BTW. thanks for it!
Kakashi Sensei
30th March 2004, 16:47
With version .27 i get an overflow error#0004 during rebuilding
using DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.66 trial
OS WinXp
And its on the DVD 28 Days later
Top_Cat
30th March 2004, 17:16
Originally posted by RB
What operating system do you use? When you click Abort in Rebuilder at this time, can you load the ITEM.ECL into CCE manually? Did you run EclCCE.exe manually at least once and pointed it to the CCE executable?
I am running Windows 2003 server. When I click abort it abort and then try to open ITEM.ECL or REBUILDER.ECL manually (File/Open/Project) it still down not work. However if I go File/Open/File and select V01000000001001.AVS then it appears in the CCE window and encode it (well I think it encodes it, I've not used CCE before but it looks to me that it works cos V01000000001001.AVS appears in the CCE window and a popup appears saying saving V01000000001001.mpv etc..)
I have tried setting it to Normal and High Priority but it still did not help.
The DVD is FireFly Disc 2 if that makes any difference.
Hope this helps. any more information needed then please let me know
chadp1a
30th March 2004, 17:46
Also getting the overflow error#0004 during rebuilding
using......
DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXp
This error did not occur with the .26 version.
huesage
30th March 2004, 19:57
@jdobbs:
I ran a test with the following setup:
- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- EclCCE (latest version)
- CCE SP Trial ;-) 2.67
- Big Lebowski NTSC (7.90GB) 1:1 nothing stripped.
When doing this backup on 2 passes, everything went really smooth. After that I decided to try 7 passes to compensate for the really large size. It did not go as well, my computer did an auto reboot.
Now, I cannot say if it is DVD Rebuilders problem or not. I am doing a 7 pass with same setup but using CCE SP 2.50 and will see how that goes (23% and going). I will also try 7 pass using CCE SP 2.67 again to see if the reboot is consistent.
But so far, I have tried 7 pass 2 times, on 2 different movies that I own and both times computer rebooted when left running over night.
By the way, I will comfirm that the "minimize CCE" option does not work when running through EclCCE as you said.
I will post more once this test goes through, I highly doubt that it is a hardware problem, the system seems to be running fine.
It also might just be my version of CCE SP 2.67, so do not look into this one right away.
nwg
30th March 2004, 20:05
Do you really need to do 7 passes?
with a 7.9GB size, I would do 4 passes maximum. The extra time probably won't improve the video quality.
What happens if you put it on 4 or 5 passes?
Trahald
30th March 2004, 20:27
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that
huesage
30th March 2004, 20:30
I am very picky as far as quality is concerned... which is why i do not take chances, I just do 7 passes.
But that is not the point, the point is that when doing a 7 pass with this setup, my comp reboots on me ;-)
PS: thanx for the tip.
r6d2
30th March 2004, 20:51
Originally posted by huesage
I am very picky as far as quality is concerned... which is why i do not take chances, I just do 7 passes.Well, according to most experts on the matter, VAF+2 passes is already enough. IIRC, even the CCE manual does not recommend such a high number of passes, and in fact if the BR is adequate, more passes than needed produce a worse output.
Of course you're free to encode as you prefer, but IMHO you are taking the wrong chances with 7 passes.
jdobbs
30th March 2004, 20:52
Originally posted by Top_Cat
I am running Windows 2003 server. When I click abort it abort and then try to open ITEM.ECL or REBUILDER.ECL manually (File/Open/Project) it still down not work. However if I go File/Open/File and select V01000000001001.AVS then it appears in the CCE window and encode it (well I think it encodes it, I've not used CCE before but it looks to me that it works cos V01000000001001.AVS appears in the CCE window and a popup appears saying saving V01000000001001.mpv etc..)
I have tried setting it to Normal and High Priority but it still did not help.
The DVD is FireFly Disc 2 if that makes any difference.
Hope this helps. any more information needed then please let me know Just as an aside -- this is a great series isn't it? I own this one (NTSC) and will try it myself.
kadilak
30th March 2004, 20:53
Not trying to be a pain, just not sure if you saw the post because this thread has been pretty active. :)
Both djan and I are seeing freezing in the video when playing through chapter points. There is no pixelation, it just freezes for mabye 1/2 a second before moving to the next chapter.
jdobbs
30th March 2004, 20:55
Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that I will add a check that warns when you try to run different settings across phases. This seems to be a continuing problem that I should have considered...
jdobbs
30th March 2004, 20:57
Originally posted by chadp1a
Also getting the overflow error#0004 during rebuilding
using......
DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXp
This error did not occur with the .26 version. Good comment. It may help point to the specific area, because I know exactly what I changed in this area... Did the .26 version work without problems?
jdobbs
30th March 2004, 21:00
Originally posted by huesage
@jdobbs:
I ran a test with the following setup:
- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- EclCCE (latest version)
- CCE SP Trial ;-) 2.67
- Big Lebowski NTSC (7.90GB) 1:1 nothing stripped.
When doing this backup on 2 passes, everything went really smooth. After that I decided to try 7 passes to compensate for the really large size. It did not go as well, my computer did an auto reboot.
Now, I cannot say if it is DVD Rebuilders problem or not. I am doing a 7 pass with same setup but using CCE SP 2.50 and will see how that goes (23% and going). I will also try 7 pass using CCE SP 2.67 again to see if the reboot is consistent.
But so far, I have tried 7 pass 2 times, on 2 different movies that I own and both times computer rebooted when left running over night.
By the way, I will comfirm that the "minimize CCE" option does not work when running through EclCCE as you said.
I will post more once this test goes through, I highly doubt that it is a hardware problem, the system seems to be running fine.
It also might just be my version of CCE SP 2.67, so do not look into this one right away. First I'd recommend (and have said before) that there is never a good reason to do more than 4 passes -- but since no one wanted to listen to that and apparently had a lot of spare computing time; I added the additional passes as an option.
I'm going way back here -- but I seem to recall a memory leak error that existed in 2.50... how much memory does your system have?
huesage
30th March 2004, 21:01
@r6d2
I guess more is not always better, where can we talk about number of passes? this thread is not really for that.
Please get in touch with me as I am interested in learning more about the topic.
Thank you.
r6d2
30th March 2004, 21:17
Originally posted by huesage
I guess more is not always better, where can we talk about number of passes? this thread is not really for that.Last off-topic comment:
Well, almost every guide on this site can confirm my statement. Some may be a little outdated, of course, but you can take a look at the guide on my sig for a whole picture on why 1 well done pass is good enough (although defying the laws of physics). ;)
About your problem, IIRC and as jddobs pointed out, some CCE versions had memory leak problems and that is more noticeable when heavy multipassing. You may try to see in task manager if swap space constantly grows with each pass.
chadp1a
30th March 2004, 21:20
Originally posted by jdobbs
Good comment. It may help point to the specific area, because I know exactly what I changed in this area... Did the .26 version work without problems?
yes. the .26 version worked flawlessly other than a 10 second still picture that pulsated very little.
Top_Cat
30th March 2004, 22:02
Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that
That sorted it I think! well done Trahald.
I also checked my AVS options and add audio was not ticked so I ticked this.
btw. Firefly is fantastic, I also have the NTSC version cos I ordered it from the states. Fantastic series and a great loss that it was cancelled! But the good news is the film is being made :)
brikin
30th March 2004, 22:26
Thanks for the tool JDobbs. 0.27 fixed my '9' error. When I loaded the files in Nero it said my .BUP did not match my .IFO. I deleted the .BUP and copied and renamed my .IFO's to .BUP and everything burned fine. I didn't know if this issue has been brought up or not.
Thanks again
hypo20
30th March 2004, 22:53
Originally posted by huesage
@jdobbs:
I ran a test with the following setup:
- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- EclCCE (latest version)
- CCE SP Trial ;-) 2.67
- Big Lebowski NTSC (7.90GB) 1:1 nothing stripped.
When doing this backup on 2 passes, everything went really smooth. After that I decided to try 7 passes to compensate for the really large size. It did not go as well, my computer did an auto reboot.
Now, I cannot say if it is DVD Rebuilders problem or not. I am doing a 7 pass with same setup but using CCE SP 2.50 and will see how that goes (23% and going). I will also try 7 pass using CCE SP 2.67 again to see if the reboot is consistent.
But so far, I have tried 7 pass 2 times, on 2 different movies that I own and both times computer rebooted when left running over night.
By the way, I will comfirm that the "minimize CCE" option does not work when running through EclCCE as you said.
I will post more once this test goes through, I highly doubt that it is a hardware problem, the system seems to be running fine.
It also might just be my version of CCE SP 2.67, so do not look into this one right away.
I did 7-pass on Pearl Harbor and works fine. BTW it was doing 8 hours on myh machine. :o)
nwg
30th March 2004, 23:05
I would like to report a strange bug.
A few times now when I abort the encoding process, I lose all my icons on the desktop and in the taskbar. I have to reboot to get the desktop icons back but lost the taskbar ones completely.
It has done it on several versions of DVD RB.
robw
30th March 2004, 23:10
A few times now when I abort the encoding process, I lose all my icons on the desktop and in the taskbar. I have to reboot to get the desktop icons back but lost the taskbar ones completely.
This has happened to me as well. I haven't looked in to it completely but I believe it only happens when you abort a process during the CCE phase (so is it DVDRB, CCE, or EclCCE?)
All my desktop icons are MIA as well as those on the taskbar.
OS: Windows XP SP1
jdobbs
30th March 2004, 23:25
Originally posted by robw
This has happened to me as well. I haven't looked in to it completely but I believe it only happens when you abort a process during the CCE phase (so is it DVDRB, CCE, or EclCCE?)
All my desktop icons are MIA as well as those on the taskbar.
OS: Windows XP SP1 Wow. I'm better than I thought. I don't even know how I'm doing that!
r6d2
30th March 2004, 23:29
Originally posted by jdobbs
Wow. I'm better than I thought. I don't even know how I'm doing that! The Lord works in mysterious ways... :D
robot1
30th March 2004, 23:30
I still get error 9 in rebuilding phase:
DVD-RB 0.27 with Rejig engine, backing up DVD NTSC U2 Go Home.
It's a concert, interlaced 30 fps. Two VTS, with no angle and no stills.
If I could help with others info, let me know.
Top_Cat
30th March 2004, 23:46
Originally posted by Top_Cat
That sorted it I think! well done Trahald.
I also checked my AVS options and add audio was not ticked so I ticked this.
btw. Firefly is fantastic, I also have the NTSC version cos I ordered it from the states. Fantastic series and a great loss that it was cancelled! But the good news is the film is being made :)
ooops spoke to soon!
Well that problem is resolved the next problem that I have encountered is that everything seems to work fine when I press ENCODE (took 1 hour to encode) but it did not encode the main TV episodes just the menus!
I pressed REMERGE and it said that there are no files, and that I needed to PROCESS and ENCODE! I checked the created VIDEO_TS folder and it is only 65MB with just the menu files created.
Any idea's? was there a box I forgot to tick or something? an hour to encode the titles seems a long time as well (2gig Athlon XP with 1 Gig of DDR-Ram)
Observer
31st March 2004, 00:00
This is probably very simple for you but I post it anyway. I guess that the new bitrate for a segment, based on the original bitrate distribution could be calculated as:
NewSegBit=(TotTime*AvgBitr)/sum(SegTime*OrigSegBitr)*OrigSegBitr
where
NewSegBit = The new bitrate for a certain segment
TotTime = The total time (length) of all segments
AvgBitr = The average bitrate that is needed to fill a DVD-R
SegTime = The time (length) of segment i
OrigSegBitr = The original bitrate of segment i
Regards,
O
jhmac
31st March 2004, 00:08
I ran a test with the following setup:
- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- CCE Basic 2.67.01.19
- Matchstick Men NTSC 1:1 nothing stripped.
All went fine until I played it in my Settop box, there is a small split second pause in the audio when it changes chapters. Any one have this problem? I have used big3 for some time now and never had this problem. I have done this movie 3 times and all with the same end result. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks JHMac
fagankev
31st March 2004, 00:20
dvdrb v0.27
eclcce v1.8
cce v2.66
error code 6, during the rebuild phase.
movie was pal version of love actually
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 01:15
Originally posted by Top_Cat
ooops spoke to soon!
Well that problem is resolved the next problem that I have encountered is that everything seems to work fine when I press ENCODE (took 1 hour to encode) but it did not encode the main TV episodes just the menus!
I pressed REMERGE and it said that there are no files, and that I needed to PROCESS and ENCODE! I checked the created VIDEO_TS folder and it is only 65MB with just the menu files created.
Any idea's? was there a box I forgot to tick or something? an hour to encode the titles seems a long time as well (2gig Athlon XP with 1 Gig of DDR-Ram) Since DVD-RB doesn't recode menus that is unlikely. Did it tell you it was encoding in the status window? Did is say it was finished after an hour? There has to be a misconfiguration somewhere...
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 01:23
Originally posted by jhmac
I ran a test with the following setup:
- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- CCE Basic 2.67.01.19
- Matchstick Men NTSC 1:1 nothing stripped.
All went fine until I played it in my Settop box, there is a small split second pause in the audio when it changes chapters. Any one have this problem? I have used big3 for some time now and never had this problem. I have done this movie 3 times and all with the same end result. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks JHMac Could you do me a favor? After running DVD-RB, use IFOEDIT's VOB Extras to rebuild the VTSs (see earler posts on that subject). If that fixes the audio issue I may be able to find a fix...
chadp1a
31st March 2004, 01:33
@jdobbs
Have you had a chance to figure out what is causing the runtime error 6 overflow error in version .27
This error was not present in your .26 build.
Thanks
nimbles
31st March 2004, 01:46
Hi, my first post to congratualte you on this great tool- i'm newb and have always been scared off from using CCE based methods partly cos i just couldn't get my head around all the steps i had to do and the cost involved in the big 3 method.
just used v0.27 and the quality is far better than the dvdshrink/ic8 methods i usually use.
thanks very much jdobbs :thanks:
I have a few questions that i hope you'd be able to help with:
1) I did Donnie Brasco (pal r2) using CCE SP2.67.023 the orginal file size is a little over 7.5 GB, and using 5 pass with a qunatizer of 24 (out of 64) I got a file size around 4.28GB. Quality is great, but iwas just wondering if there is a way of upping the space used to almost fill the disc?
2) I'm not really sure of the effect of the quality_prec (think there's a typo there :D) & vbr bias settings- could you please explain to me what it does- (is it the same as in say xvid quantizer encoding where the lower the number the higher the quality?)
Stive
31st March 2004, 01:59
Tools and DVD:
DVDRBv26 (Default settings except, dynamic, 4passes, and one-click)
1.7ecl
2.54avi
2.50CCE (default settings)
AMD CPU
WinXP Pro
LOTRings2 (full dvd backup)
The process was smooth...no errors. However, I am experiencing the chapter studder on regular play through and if I fast forward to the chapter and back it up just a bit. Right now, I am running it through ifoedit with the particular settings noted based on a previous post to see if it will take it out. According to a previous post, only the following should be checked: "correct vob unit navpack...", "adjust vob unit pointer", and "adjust aduio/subp" (on ifoeditv96). I had tried a movie only on the DVD by stripping it with DVDShrink (no compression), DVDRB26, and ifoedit. But, that did not take out the studder. I'll report back with the result later tonight.
nwg
31st March 2004, 02:03
I did Back to the Future (inc stills) just fine with 025 with Rejig. I decided to do it again with 027 and its fails during build with a runtime error 6.
anomiERIC
31st March 2004, 02:32
Originally posted by chadp1a
Also getting the overflow error#0004 during rebuilding
using......
DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXp
This error did not occur with the .26 version.
I have this same problem but can't find .26 to download since people say this version works. Is there a place to get the older versions?
I'm using XP SP1 (Build 2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 : SP1)
DVD-RB .27 (never used .26 before .27 was out)
CCE SP 2.67.00.023
ECLCCE 1.8 and tried the 1.7b version also.
I get the same with both, and ive tried every combination of the YUV, AddAudio, and ResampleAudio options. All alone, two of the three, and all three with both versions of ECLCCE. It finished in less than 5 minutes and then I get that error (DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort.) and then (Stop statement encountered). The disc I am trying to encode is the Upright Citizens Brigade Season 01 Disc 01. I can post the files if needed, but it sounds like this has been reported already so I won't until asked.
I am using Avisynth 2.5 that comes with the latest GordianKnot and the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll is the only file in the plugins dir of that. Path pointed to in program, but do I need to have the Add to AVS checked? I have tried with and without and same results, but just wanted to know what it should be. Final Size after it runs from the 6.61 GB vobs is 9.59 MB in the D2VAVS folder and 97.3 MB in the VIDEO_TS folder.
Stive
31st March 2004, 03:13
Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions?
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 03:26
Originally posted by Stive
Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions? What DVD is it (if you've told me please forgive me -- you only remember your problem, I have to remember them all)? I've burned a sh*t-load (that's a standard engineering unit of measurement) and haven't gotten a stutter yet.
KungFuCow
31st March 2004, 03:37
I just finished encoding one and since Ive had problems on my players with stuttering as well, Ill burn it real quick and test it out.
nwg
31st March 2004, 03:39
It looks like i can't use 027. :(
I am going to have to go back to 026 as I keep getting runtime error 6 messages during build.
Stive
31st March 2004, 04:04
Originally posted by jdobbs
What DVD is it (if you've told me please forgive me -- you only remember your problem, I have to remember them all)? I've burned a sh*t-load (that's a standard engineering unit of measurement) and haven't gotten a stutter yet.
It was Lord of the Rings 2.
chadp1a
31st March 2004, 04:06
@jdobbs
After two failed attempts during the rebuild stage using biuld .27, I decided to overwrite just the rebuilder exe with build .26 and everything went perfect. No more of the overflow error while using build .26
using....
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXP
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 04:11
Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs
After two failed attempts during the rebuild stage using biuld .27, I decided to overwrite just the rebuilder exe with build .26 and everything went perfect. No more of the overflow error while using build .26
using....
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXP Just a warning. This doesn't mean there isn't still a problem, it only means it isn't showing... When working on .27 I found that I had left in some test code in .26 that would continue to write to disc past the end of what was listed as the end of a GOP in the final GOP of a chapter -- but the sector number wasn't being updated. If you use .26 successfully and this error happens in .27 I can guarantee you have inaccurate pointers on the DVD.
nwg
31st March 2004, 04:11
chadp1a wrote,
After two failed attempts during the rebuild stage using biuld .27, I decided to overwrite just the rebuilder exe with build .26 and everything went perfect. No more of the overflow error while using build .26
I am experiencing the same as well.
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 04:14
Originally posted by nwg
I am experiencing the same as well. See my answer to chadp1a.
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 04:19
Originally posted by Stive
It was Lord of the Rings 2. Now that is a REAL coincidence... I have that one on my hard drive right now. Is it NTSC? CCE, ReJig, or QuEnc?
chadp1a
31st March 2004, 04:19
Originally posted by jdobbs
Just a warning. This doesn't mean there isn't still a problem, it only means it isn't showing... When working on .27 I found that I had left in some test code in .26 that would continue to write to disc past the end of what was listed as the end of a GOP in the final GOP of a chapter -- but the sector number wasn't being updated. If you use .26 successfully and this error happens in .27 I can guarantee you have inaccurate pointers on the DVD.
is there any other info i can provide to you that may help with isolating this overflow error?
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 04:39
Originally posted by chadp1a
is there any other info i can provide to you that may help with isolating this overflow error? Not really. I already know where it's happening. It's the why that's driving me nuts.
Stive
31st March 2004, 04:57
Originally posted by jdobbs
Now that is a REAL coincidence... I have that one on my hard drive right now. Is it NTSC? CCE, ReJig, or QuEnc?
It is NTSC and using CCE2.50 with 1.7ecl.
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 05:00
Originally posted by Stive
It is NTSC and using CCE2.50 with 1.7ecl. It's running with CCE2.50 and ECL 1.7b as I type.
2COOL
31st March 2004, 05:04
@jdobbs
I have sort of an interesting workaround for some problem DVDs I had. Keep in mind that I tried this with ones that don't have multi-angles or interleaving. Anyways, I have been frustrated by getting alot of run-time errors, especially #6, afer processing freshly ripped DVDs through DVD-RB. I had a theory that probably the VOBs were messed up so instead of mock-stripping each titleset, I used DVD-Shrink to process the whole DVD at a custom ratio of 99.8%. I just click on root menu in tree-view and set it. I figure with little compression, DVD Shrink would apply minor corrections and at the same time, keeping my quality close to original.
I then processed my DVD-Shrink files through DVD-RB as usual and to my surprise, it completed to end with no errors. I have a higher success rate doing it this way even though it does add to backup time. Hmmmm...
Another observation I have encountered is that I did one DVD that had motion Title menus (not in menu VOBs but movie VOBs), and when DVD-RB had successfully processed it, my menu buttons are non-existent. :eek: Don't know if this has been brought up before but I think DVD-RB can't process these types of VOBs with buttons in them.
Update: Since I had enough room, I replaced my cell that supposed to have buttons in them with my original one using a registered MenuEdit.
If anyone would care to try this method out, let me know if it works or not. Ultimately, at the end, it would be all fixed but for the meantime if you're frustrated with numerous failed attempts with that one problematic DVD...
Stive
31st March 2004, 05:12
Originally posted by jdobbs
It's running with CCE2.50 and ECL 1.7b as I type.
I ran DVDRB.26 with default settings except, one-click, 4 pass, english, remove dts, dynamic, and suppress warnings. CCE2.50 was default (don't know if I did make changes that they would stay). Used DVDDecrypter321(?). Oh yes, I used the "dg" file in the plugins and had the box ticked in DVDRB.
KungFuCow
31st March 2004, 07:05
After testing "Dude, Where's My Car" R1 on my Liteon and Xbox DVD players, Im not seeing any sort of pixelation, stuttering, etc on chapter changes using .27.
loosenut
31st March 2004, 07:30
Originally posted by 2COOL
....I have a higher success rate doing it this way even though it does add to backup time. Hmmmm...
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Do you mean the workaround doesn't work in all cases?
I'm in R2 country, and subs are a plenty here, so a pass through Shrink beforehand to get rid of them is sometimes mandatory.
And on a subject (tiny bug) that existed in Shrink in the old days: IFOS don't get updated for removed audio streams, so it has to be done manually.(Footnote on the To-Do list?)
Axlemar
31st March 2004, 07:53
What causes the overflow error 6 problems? I notice that phase 3 (rebuild) can use anywhere from 200 to 800 megs of memory on my 1 gig machine. Would overflow most likely be caused from memory management problems with the rebuilder or from the encoding process doing something wrong?
2COOL
31st March 2004, 08:44
Originally posted by loosenut
Do you mean the workaround doesn't work in all cases?I sort of have to say that as a disclaimer because I don't have a stash of different DVDs for full testing. Even high use programs like DVD Shrink, Instantcopy, CloneDVD, DVD2One, etc... are not perfect and you will have to expect to have some problems with specific DVDs. ;) That's why I put out a request for anyone to give it try for further testing. Also, DVD-RB is still in beta stage.
Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that
Well spotted, thanks a bunch, Trahald! I was really pulling my hair out about this one. I should probably put a sanity check on the ECL into EclCCE.
emistral
31st March 2004, 11:34
Following a problem I had recently (described in the other thread related to DVD Rebuilder), after preparing the VTSses, I pressed the encode button and this is the error code -I presume displayed- in the progressing gauge
V080000100001002
I have no idea what it means. When I press Encode, in the report window, I have the following messages:
"creating M2v ......"
This window displays lots of these messages and in less than 2s I have Phase II completed
According to my understanding, these messages would be normally displayed after CCE has completed its encoding process
I had the same problem in the previous version
My config now is:
DVD-R 0.28
CCE 2.5
EclCCE 1.8
I have found on the forum that Eclcce 1.8 might be bugged and needed to have its .INI file modified
So I added Debug=1 in the Eclcce ini file as suggested but it does not make any difference
I might try other reencoding tools unless jdobbs has any idea of what's going on
For the time being, after the preparation process, I opened manually CCE and loaded the rebuilder.ecl files
There is also another file named item.ecl
Should I also open it manually with CCE and reencode it ?
The DVD is Whale Rider,PAL version decrypted with the latest DVD Decryptor version.
petesafool
31st March 2004, 12:43
@TOP_CAT
My CCE 2.67 actually started encoding with your method but the whole process took under 5mins as I ended up with a load of AVISYNTH error shots for my M2V's.
So I tried something I normally do with the big 3 and all versions of CCE 2.6x: Just don't bother with ADDAUDIO() or RESAMPLE(). And it worked fine.
@RB / JDOBBS
I also ran, unaltered, the AVS's which were giving REBUILDER trouble through BATCHCCEW and they encoded 1st time. Don't know if this is significant or not.
@JDOBBS
I have a request }->
Would it be possible to batch process the M2V files through RESTREAM for example to set BFF before rebuilding? As a PAL user I find most 'jumpy' video issues are solved this way.
CCE never seems to set the BFF flag properly, but there are quiet a lot of M2Vs to do manually using your program so I am having to strip the video from a completed project and then add it back with IFOedit.
RebelBZ
31st March 2004, 12:56
This is my first time using DVD-RB & I tried to backup the
Transformers Season 1 R1 dvd.
No problems whatsoever with DVD-RB, however when I previewed the
result in PowerDVD, I'm getting black & white lines in spots where
there is motion. (Combing effect ?)
Is there a setting somewhere in DVD-RB that I missed ?
My setup :
DVD-RB 0.26
CCE Trial 2.67
eclCCE 1.8
Thanks.
Top_Cat
31st March 2004, 13:23
Originally posted by petesafool
@TOP_CAT
My CCE 2.67 actually started encoding with your method but the whole process took under 5mins as I ended up with a load of AVISYNTH error shots for my M2V's.
So I tried something I normally do with the big 3 and all versions of CCE 2.6x: Just don't bother with ADDAUDIO() or RESAMPLE(). And it worked fine.
Still can't find out why its not working. I will try unselecting ADDAUDIO and RESAMPLE AUDIO from the AVS options and see if that helps. Will give it a try now and let you know the results.
Thanks
Top_Cat
31st March 2004, 13:43
Well I tried what was suggested and that did not help. It went through all the steps like:
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 01
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 02
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 03
etc...
Total time was approximately 10minutes (maybe I read it wrong before when I thought it was an hour).
Again it has not encoded the film but no error messages were displayed.
Also a a side point it shuts down my PC after it finished. I have ensured the option in CCE is not ticked that says "shut down my computer when finished encoding" Anyone know if there is another tickbox I need to uncheck as it is very annoying to have the PC shut down like that.
Any idea's? I'll give it one last go and if I still have no luck then I think I will go back to Shrink for a while.
Thanks,
himan2001
31st March 2004, 13:48
@JDOBBS
Please take a look in this Thread ;-)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73635
Himan
onesoul
31st March 2004, 14:36
Hi himan2001, you should post here (too scared by the size of the thread? ;)). That's why the dvd-rb threads exist. I bet you'll get better feedback.
lrosado
31st March 2004, 16:13
I tried out this great software but one little hiccup when processing, As it was doing the main movie, I think, it gave me a "runtime error 6". and the process went to a halt
paulers
31st March 2004, 16:30
I processed Pokemon 4ever and I got a runtime error 6 "Overflow" during the rebuilding process.
using DVDrb .27 and CCE 2.5
I just did "Returner" (PAL, R2) with 0.27, cce 2.50 and eclcce 1.7b. The result was pretty much unusable, and this is the first failure I've ever had with DVD-RB.
All processes complete without errors, and the result plays ok in PowerDVD, but not in any of my standalones. Let me be specific:
It will simply freeze at certain chapter changes. Like from chapter 2 to 3, it will freeze. I then press "BACK" and it will play from chapter 3 ok. But it happens again at chapter 10 to 11, 13 to 14, etc. almost seemingly at random points.
Also, nero still reports the output as being non-dvd compliant, but that hasn't been a problem with previous versions.
I know that this problem sound a lot like the one others have had with older versions, but it puzzles me that 0.27 suddenly gives me this. Wasn't it supposedly fixed by now?
Anyway, I'll do another movie and see if it is just this one that experiences the problem.
-tf
New EclCCE 1.8a available:
31/03/2004 v1.8a
- Fixed: Cancel button could not be hidden via command line or INI
option for CCE-SP 2.50/2.62/2.64.
- Fixed: under rare circumstances, CCE unexpectedly closed when
loading or saving ECL.
- Added: Fix for "invisible CCE window" issue with CCE-SP versions
prior to 2.67.00.12 (see CCE-SP HISTORY.TXT).
- Added: sanity check on ECL files to display a reasonable error
message when trying to load an unsupported ECL format (CCE Basic).
- Added: -hideshutdown command line option. Global option to hide the
Shutdown checkbox in progress dialog, press Ctrl-Shift-S to
hide/unhide at any time.
Note this doesn't "fix" the incompatibility with CCE-SP 2.50 when used by DVD-RB, waiting for the fix from jdobbs :)
@Top_Cat:
Try this version. Don't check "Run Encoders minimized" in DVD-RB so you can better see what's going on.
GooglyBear
31st March 2004, 17:01
I'm going back to .26 for now.. I too got the '9' overflow bug..
I already made a succesful backup of Pitch Black Unrated using .26, but since it was among my first tests I only used 1 pass or 2 pass.. so since I haven't been getting any trouble lately I re-ran it using .27 with 5 pass and yup, when I woke up I had the error 9.. the bad part is it took well over 24 hours (real world hours, not from beginning to end) for me to encode it using 5 pass on my strongest system, lol
I kicked it off at 10 am when I went to sleep at midnight it was still at 75% :P
I think I'll wait for .28 or just go back to .26 for now :) since no real major changes happened between .26-.27
..btw to everyone, do you guys have sample files you encode or do you encode full dvd's? My systems take 15+ hours and it drains my spirit to see errors at the end of such long runs.. what do you guys do? Surely you must have some custom small dvd's you encode to test this thing or something..
Well a 1-2 pass encode takes about 1½ hour for a movie here, so it's not that big a problem (3ghz p4, cce 2.50). But I usually do 5-6 passes.
-tf
mikegun
31st March 2004, 17:13
Originally posted by tf
Well a 1-2 pass encode takes about 1½ hour for a movie here, so it's not that big a problem (3ghz p4, cce 2.50). But I usually do 5-6 passes.
-tf
I remember reading that the quality could suffer doing more than 4 passes ?!?
regards,
mikegun
robw
31st March 2004, 17:21
I think I'll wait for .28 or just go back to .26 for now since no real major changes happened between .26-.27
@GooglyBear
read jdobbs caution 6th post on page 28. going back to version .26 may not be such a good idea
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 17:22
Originally posted by emistral
Following a problem I had recently (described in the other thread related to DVD Rebuilder), after preparing the VTSses, I pressed the encode button and this is the error code -I presume displayed- in the progressing gauge
V080000100001002
I have no idea what it means. When I press Encode, in the report window, I have the following messages:
"creating M2v ......"
This window displays lots of these messages and in less than 2s I have Phase II completed
According to my understanding, these messages would be normally displayed after CCE has completed its encoding process
I had the same problem in the previous version
My config now is:
DVD-R 0.28
CCE 2.5
EclCCE 1.8
I have found on the forum that Eclcce 1.8 might be bugged and needed to have its .INI file modified
So I added Debug=1 in the Eclcce ini file as suggested but it does not make any difference
I might try other reencoding tools unless jdobbs has any idea of what's going on
For the time being, after the preparation process, I opened manually CCE and loaded the rebuilder.ecl files
There is also another file named item.ecl
Should I also open it manually with CCE and reencode it ?
The DVD is Whale Rider,PAL version decrypted with the latest DVD Decryptor version. That's not an error code. It is a file name. It's documented somewhere in the 10,000 pages of combines threads on this.
nwg
31st March 2004, 17:28
robw wrote,
ready jdobbs caution 6th post on page 28. going back to version .26 may not be such a good idea
I am using 026 just fine. I haven't completed a DVD at all with 027 due to the runtime error 6 on every DVD.
robw
31st March 2004, 17:42
jdobbs
it would significantly speed up debugging if we could encode a smaller DVD as an initial test for a release. Your sanity check prevents DVDrb running on small DVDs. Could you set a switch to turn on/off the sanity check (perhaps in the ini file to prevent inadvertent use)?
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 18:17
Originally posted by himan2001
@JDOBBS
Please take a look in this Thread ;-)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73635
Himan If I make this method so complicated that people have to get a PhD to use it -- what's the point? I will look at your settings and see what makes sense. But I could spend the rest of my life debating the best CCE settings. It's like religion.
lrosado
31st March 2004, 18:25
JDOBBS, what about the runtime error 6 overflow error, what do you think it could be?
jdobbs
31st March 2004, 18:57
Originally posted by lrosado
JDOBBS, what about the runtime error 6 overflow error, what do you think it could be? I don't have a clue. It would be a lot easier if I could make it happon on my system. I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors...
r6d2
31st March 2004, 19:05
@jdobbs, at what time do you eat/sleep? :D
You are improving your tool, giving support, hearing suggestions, testing for bugs... Gee, either you have a clone army with you, or you have the gift of ubiquity. :)
lrosado
31st March 2004, 19:14
JDOBBS, is there an error log that the program creates or a debug version you can give out to try to get you as much information as you need to pinpoint where the problem lies. The DVD I tried it with was Texas Chainsaw Massacre
loosenut
31st March 2004, 20:58
Originally posted by 2COOL
I have sort of an interesting workaround for some problem DVDs I had. Keep in mind that I tried this with ones that don't have multi-angles or interleaving. Anyways, I have been frustrated by getting alot of run-time errors, especially #6, afer processing freshly ripped DVDs through DVD-RB. I had a theory that probably the VOBs were messed up so instead of mock-stripping each titleset, I used DVD-Shrink to process the whole DVD at a custom ratio of 99.8%. I just click on root menu in tree-view and set it. I figure with little compression, DVD Shrink would apply minor corrections and at the same time, keeping my quality close to original.
I confirmed 2COOL's finding!!!!.
Beyond Borders, R1.
Done with RD 0.27, CCE 2.50. Audio stutters on chapter points on standalone.
Took resulted files through DVDShrink at 99.8%, no more audio stutters!!!!
Unfortunately, 1st chapter freezes and goes to second chapter, on a Philips standalone, on both cases (I mean, as usual) :(.
robw
31st March 2004, 21:03
Originally posted by jdobbs
I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors...
same here
KungFuCow
31st March 2004, 21:04
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?
robw
31st March 2004, 21:10
Originally posted by jdobbs
If I make this method so complicated that people have to get a PhD to use it -- what's the point? I will look at your settings and see what makes sense. But I could spend the rest of my life debating the best CCE settings. It's like religion.
just a suggestion that I think will be appreciated by a maximum audience. Have a second 'ini' file. Perhaps called CCEprocess.ini - in that file place all the CCE options and let the power user change them if desired. If the ini file is not in the directory, create it. The 'typical' user will not need to go to this file.
kadilak
31st March 2004, 21:12
Originally posted by KungFuCow
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?
Forgive my ignorance, but what do you need to do in IfoEdit normally to fix this type of problem?
loosenut
31st March 2004, 21:43
Originally posted by KungFuCow
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?
This particular DVD, no, I haven't. I had tried it on "Rundown", even before this post:
Originally posted by Stive
Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions?
and it didn't work. But I was under "newbie probation" at the time, so I could not post.
Plus, I had all those #0003 and #0004 errors with 0.27, so by the time "Beyond Borders" succeeded in finishing, I also saw 2COOL's posting and gave it a try. And a burn. It's faster anyway.
P.S.
DVDShrink before for #000x errors and DVDShrink after for audio studders.... there MUST be something hidden there to give jdobbs a clue.
@kadilak:
KungFuCow refers to 'mock stripping'the vobs.
2COOL
31st March 2004, 22:11
@loosenut
Originally posted by loosenut
I confirmed 2COOL's finding!!!!.
Beyond Borders, R1.Thanks for the feedbacks! :)
@all
If you need to read my post on this matter, it's on page 28. ;)
Raymongo
31st March 2004, 22:11
I reported yesterday the runtime '6' error on Disney's dumbo which occoured with version 0.27 now i did the whole process all over again from start. But still the error occours and it does not with V 0.26 but there the #0004 error ocours.
error '6' occours in VTS1 and
error #0004 occours in VTS3
2COOL
31st March 2004, 22:27
Originally posted by Raymongo
I reported yesterday the runtime '6' error on Disney's dumbo which occoured with version 0.27 now i did the whole process all over again from start. But still the error occours and it does not with V 0.26 but there the #0004 error ocours.
error '6' occours in VTS1 and
error #0004 occours in VTS3 Raymongo...can you test my workaround post on your problematic DVD? If it works for you, I hope jdobbs can use this feedback on hopefully squashing the error bugs. ;)
DMagic1
31st March 2004, 23:17
I thought all problems with chapter points were gone. I made two movies backups, Training Day and Tombstone. These seemed to be perfect.
I saw another persons post about sound skips and pixelation but hadnt seen any of this since it was fixed in v.026.
Today I tested these two movies on my Sony and Pioneer again just to be sure.
I can confirm that the sound skip is there. You have to listen closely. It seems to be a lot worse in some movies compared to others. Tombstones skips were very noticeable, were as Training Day seems to only have it at a few chapters. I also saw some very quick pixelation in Tombstone. Nowhere near the amount that we were seeing before v0.26.
I think the sound problems show most when there is sound at the end of one chapter that continues into the next chapter.
Example:
In Tombstone one of the bad guys is looking off into the distance as the trains whistle starts. The next chapter shows the train with the whistle still blowing. You can hear the skip in the trains whistle as the chapter changes.
brikin
31st March 2004, 23:18
My backup that I made with 0.27 and CCE built fine. When I play in on my Sony DVD player there is a little stuttering every so ofthen then when chapter 2 is hit the picture freezes and the timer keeps counting down. When I play the same DVD in my Panasonic DVD player is stutters every so often then stutters on the chapter point but keeps playing. I did 2 passes and used the dynamically assign cell bitrates mode.
2COOL
31st March 2004, 23:22
Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't have a clue. It would be a lot easier if I could make it happon on my system. I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors... Perhaps, you can give us your system and software specs and hopefully, someone has the same setup as you and has encountered a problematic DVD for you to test on. ;) If you have posted it somewhere, I may have overlooked it. Reading alot of posts can be very tiring, especially in the wee morning hours.
DMagic1
31st March 2004, 23:29
Also, in Tombstone the sound goes out of sync, then stops completely in the first chapter then comes back in at the second chapter.
This happens even with PowerDVD. It seems that the sound skip can be heard with PowerDVD also.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 00:09
Originally posted by r6d2
@jdobbs, at what time do you eat/sleep? :D
You are improving your tool, giving support, hearing suggestions, testing for bugs... Gee, either you have a clone army with you, or you have the gift of ubiquity. :) I give it my best shot -- but I have to admit I'm getting burned out a little. "ubiquity" -- I love a good vocabulary.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 00:15
Originally posted by DMagic1
I think the sound problems show most when there is sound at the end of one chapter that continues into the next chapter.
Example:
In Tombstone one of the bad guys is looking off into the distance as the trains whistle starts. The next chapter shows the train with the whistle still blowing. You can hear the skip in the trains whistle as the chapter changes. Now that's a good clue. Do the sound skips only happen at chapter breaks?
jhmac
1st April 2004, 01:39
I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix...
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 01:51
Ok -- don't look for me for a while -- I am going to start putting in one DVD after another until I repeat errors 0004 and overflow '6'. If I can repeat it I can fix it.
kadilak
1st April 2004, 02:07
Originally posted by jhmac
I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix...
Yep, I've noticed this with the Matrix Reloaded and School of Rock. Both the sound and picture are skipping when playing through chapter points.
quantum
1st April 2004, 02:08
I'm having trouble finding trouble too. I just did Jurassic Park and The Mummy in batch mode. They finished without incident. I thought I remember extras in Mummy having TFF/BFF issues but I couldn't find anything wrong with these on my Pioneer standalone.
Raymongo
1st April 2004, 02:26
Originally posted by 2COOL
Raymongo...can you test my workaround post on your problematic DVD? If it works for you, I hope jdobbs can use this feedback on hopefully squashing the error bugs. ;)
Will try now! Report back later.
The "skipping" in sound and pic at chapter points started here with my 7th rip, and with 0.27. Actually the first one with these problems even freezed totally at some points.
I have now tried redoing i, and this time it doesn't freeze, but it still skips. Odd, since it didn't do that in earlier version (0.15 - 0.21, before I went to 0.27), but it does now.
-tf
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 02:39
Originally posted by jhmac
I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix... Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...
robw
1st April 2004, 03:10
jdobbs
geez! next thing you know you'll claim to be seeing pixelation.
DMagic1
1st April 2004, 03:12
Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...
Yep, Its easy to miss.
Stive
1st April 2004, 03:46
Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 03:52
Originally posted by Stive
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player. Have you tried it without the preprocessed stripping? If you throw DVD-RB a curveball it can easily strike out...
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 03:56
Originally posted by robw
jdobbs
geez! next thing you know you'll claim to be seeing pixelation. No. That part is history. The truth is I had a question anyway about the way I was doing something with audio, and when it seemed to work okay I left it. It should be fairly easy to fix... You'll notice if you do a DOS COMP of a DVD-RB VOB and one that has been run through IFOEDIT that there are differences. I just figured either was ok.
Stive
1st April 2004, 04:25
Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you tried it without the preprocessed stripping? If you throw DVD-RB a curveball it can easily strike out...
Yes...Sorry if I did not make my post very clear. I did both (untouched dvdrb and manipulated dvdshrink/dvdrb). I'm really not asking why it doesn't work with shrink. I know you're doing much more than most in developing and answering questions. But what I was trying to say is, I'm not smart enough yet to compare the two outputs (shrunk/dvdrb and untouched dvdrb) to see if something would highlight a chapter stutter, but perhaps someone could tell me how to do it or try it themselves.
Edit: I've done the ifoedit to no avail.
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 04:31
@jdobbs
You still haven't experienced the overflow error yet have you?
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 04:33
Nope.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 04:36
Originally posted by Stive
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player. When I finish this product if has to play on every player -- cheap or not. I'm not going to quit until I clean it up.
One thing to note-: It may be the same problem. PC software often syncs off the audio instead of the video -- while it isn't typical, it's possible that a settop player could do that as well. If so, the audio glitch could be the source of your problem as well.
brikin
1st April 2004, 04:40
The Nero error is from the .BUP files not matching the .IFO files. I have this same problem.
Stive
1st April 2004, 04:41
Originally posted by jdobbs
When I finish this product if has to play on every player -- cheap or not. I'm not going to quit until I clean it up.
You're a good man (person) jdobbs and God bless you for it. I wish I could tell you something to help out. You don't think it would have anything to do with an AMD cpu do you? Probably not, anyway, I would be happy to tell you anything I can about my setup/system if needed.
Saw your edit to my previous post...so if it is out of sync from the audio, I probably should now retry the transcode with v28. I'll give it a go overnight. Thanks for all your had work.
brikin
1st April 2004, 04:51
I am having these stutter problems also. Here is some info that may or may not help. I was backing up Jerry Maguire Disc 1 which is only a movie with a 2.0 DD and 5.1 DD soundtracks. I used DVD Stripper to get rid of a few warning screens before running this through DVD Rebuilder. I am using Windows XP with an AMD 2400+ processer and a Asus mother board.
I encoded the movie using CCE 2.66 trial with the latest EclCCE. I also used the mode to use different bit rates for different cells.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Paced
1st April 2004, 04:54
I just experienced my very first 'Overflow' '6' error during the rebuilding phase.
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.28
2. Encoder being used: ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. "Run-time '6' Overflow" (or something along those lines) during rebuilding.
The DVD was Minority Report (Disc 1) - PAL.
It's strange that it doesn't occur on the majority of my other DVDs, which turned out flawlessly. Keep up the great work jdobbs.
//Edit
Went back to DVD-RB 0.26, and I did not get the error (couldn't test with 0.27, I've somehow misplaced the file :().
Stive
1st April 2004, 04:54
Originally posted by brikin
I am having these stutter problems also. Here is some info that may or may not help. I was backing up Jerry Maguire Disc 1 which is only a movie with a 2.0 DD and 5.1 DD soundtracks. I used DVD Stripper to get rid of a few warning screens before running this through DVD Rebuilder. I am using Windows XP with an AMD 2400+ processer and a Asus mother board.
I encoded the movie using CCE 2.66 trial with the latest EclCCE. I also used the mode to use different bit rates for different cells.
Let me know if you need anything else.
Yikes...two AMD's...two stutters with CCE (mine stuttered with both 2.50 and 2.67 trial).
wakebrder
1st April 2004, 04:55
nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway.
Try deleting the menu VOB (VIDEO_TS.VOB) Then Get VTS sectors with IFOEdit. I think the reason Nero is rejecting your project is that there is an empty menu VOB in your DVD.
Stive
1st April 2004, 04:56
Originally posted by wakebrder
Try deleting the menu VOB (VIDEO_TS.VOB) Then Get VTS sectors with IFOEdit. I think the reason Nero is rejecting your project is that there is an empty menu VOB in your DVD.
Thanks. Will do.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 05:01
Originally posted by Stive
You're a good man (person) jdobbs and God bless you for it. I wish I could tell you something to help out. You don't think it would have anything to do with an AMD cpu do you? Probably not, anyway, I would be happy to tell you anything I can about my setup/system if needed.
Saw your edit to my previous post...so if it is out of sync from the audio, I probably should now retry the transcode with v28. I'll give it a go overnight. Thanks for all your had work. I don't think you'll see a difference with .28 -- wait for .29
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 05:06
Originally posted by Stive
Yikes...two AMD's...two stutters with CCE (mine stuttered with both 2.50 and 2.67 trial). Not a chance -- I have an AMD also. Trying to blame the processor would be like trying to say it is related to sunspots and phases of the moon. Of course then I'd be able to fix it by reading a few chicken bones I've thrown on a table...
Axlemar
1st April 2004, 05:12
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program!
robw
1st April 2004, 05:18
Originally posted by Axlemar
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program!
This clue has been mentioned before and I just wanted to mention that I have never had the overflow problem either. My workflow is to always run the DVD files through DVDremake where I strip out a few things typically - in this process the navigation stuff is recreated based on what is stripped. So something on the original DVDs is causing a problem.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 05:23
Originally posted by Axlemar
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program! I tried running DVD Shrink on my output to see what happened and it asked me for a non-existent VTS -- so I aborted that idea and went back to coding...
2COOL
1st April 2004, 05:23
Originally posted by robw
So something on the original DVDs is causing a problem. Yup! That's what my theory is. We all assume that the ripped files are authored perfectly and in compliance. One scenario is...what if the ripped files were badly in need of correcting sectors due to bad authoring and we processed the files without doing it through DVD-RB immediately? Just wondering since I don't know how DVD-RB's algorithm really works at the start. Doesn't the original IFO and BUPs just get copied over?
Kakashi Sensei
1st April 2004, 05:41
well i dont know if this helps i consistantly get the 0004 error on the backup i was doing for 28 days later. i forget where in the rebuild process it occurs but its somewere after the main movie. I think. I will try it again tonight and let you know Jdobbs. I'm not the only one who had a problem w/28 days later. So you have that DVD try it out.
kadilak
1st April 2004, 06:06
Originally posted by 2COOL
Yup! That's what my theory is. We all assume that the ripped files are authored perfectly and in compliance. One scenario is...what if the ripped files were badly in need of correcting sectors due to bad authoring and we processed the files without doing it through DVD-RB immediately? Just wondering since I don't know how DVD-RB's algorithm really works at the start. Doesn't the original IFO and BUPs just get copied over?
That being said, wouldn't a good test be for someone to run IfoEdit on the original VOBS and do a mock strip, then run DVD-RB on the supposedly corrected VOBS to see if the same problems appear? IE, the audio/picture stutter?
If no one else gets to this I'll do it tomorrow evening.
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 06:26
Originally posted by jdobbs
Nope.
Well, I tried the same title again using .28 but this time I ran the original thru CloneDVD first without any compression hoping that maybe something could be wrong with the regular rip.
During Phase III this time around I receive Error 9 'subscript out of range' instead of the usual Error 6 'Overflow'.
The Error 9 happens before I would normaly receive the Error 6 so I wasn't able experience whether the overflow error would exist.
2COOL
1st April 2004, 06:37
@chadp1a
Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 06:40
Originally posted by 2COOL
@chadp1a
Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?
sure.. i'll post result soon
KungFuCow
1st April 2004, 06:43
Im actually encoding Bring It On Again for the third time, this time after running it through Shrink with a 99.7% compression ratio so hopefully I'll have an answer on this soon. In it's original form, I got Error #6 both times I encoded it.
What's interesting about this movie is that it also comes out WAY undersized. For the most part, Ive seen the sizing issues resolved yet for some reason, this movie always comes out about 700-900MB too small. The movie is very large on it's own so it does need reencoding, just for some reason, DVD-RB tends to go nuts on it and the size gets hosed.
Interestingly enough, on earlier versions of RB, I did not get Error #6. This just started with .27 on. Maybe I need to fedex this movie to JDobbs for him to play around with since it undersizes AND gives you Error #6.
ChickenMan
1st April 2004, 06:45
Originally posted by jdobbs
... I'd be able to fix it by reading a few chicken bones I've thrown on a table...
Ouch, thats gotta hurt :D
cm
robw
1st April 2004, 06:46
Originally posted by KungFuCow
Im actually encoding Bring It On Again for the third time, this time after running it through Shrink with a 99.7% compression ratio so hopefully I'll have an answer on this soon. In it's original form, I got Error #6 both times I encoded it.
What's interesting about this movie is that it also comes out WAY undersized. For the most part, Ive seen the sizing issues resolved yet for some reason, this movie always comes out about 700-900MB too small. The movie is very large on it's own so it does need reencoding, just for some reason, DVD-RB tends to go nuts on it and the size gets hosed.
Interestingly enough, on earlier versions of RB, I did not get Error #6. This just started with .27 on. Maybe I need to fedex this movie to JDobbs for him to play around with since it undersizes AND gives you Error #6.
great experiment. If it runs this time it should help a lot
ChickenMan
1st April 2004, 07:41
On a more serious note, I just got my first error today (been using RB very successfully since 0.15 with no errors or playback issues).
Title: A River Runs Through It - PAL R4(and R2)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b
RB ver 0.27 & 0.28
I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder.
Do I have to wait for 0.29 (or 0.30 ) for this one ?
jdobbs, keep up the good work, this is THE best program to hit the scene in the past 12 months.
Cheers,
cm
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 07:46
Originally posted by 2COOL
@chadp1a
Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?
Well after using DvdShrink I am back to just the Error 6 - Overflow
It's in the same position of Phase III.
So by using CloneDVD I got two errors and by using Shrink I got one.
:confused:
2COOL
1st April 2004, 07:58
Originally posted by ChickenMan
I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder. That's sad to hear. If I had to go with my consistent working results with a few bad apples, using DVD Shrink prior worked on DVDs that errored out in the Rebuild stage. You're the first to report a Prepare stage error with DVD Shrink files. Hmmm...
Why is jdobbs having a very high success rate on the same DVDs some users are having problems with?
2COOL
1st April 2004, 08:02
Originally posted by chadp1a
Well after using DvdShrink I am back to just the Error 6 - Overflow
It's in the same position of Phase III.
So by using CloneDVD I got two errors and by using Shrink I got one.
:confused: You got me... :confused: :confused:
Instead of throwing my chicken bones on the table, I'll settle for reading the tarot cards.:p
Raymongo
1st April 2004, 10:08
Well After doing disney's dumbo, for the god knows how manyest time, i still get the Run-time error '6'overflow. I did the the workaround 2COOL asked me to do but unfortunatly it didn't work the error appeared at exactly the same point.
Will try now with version 0.28 and pry its gona work;)
KungFuCow
1st April 2004, 11:39
Here's one to make you go "hmmmmmmmm"
Bring It On Again, error 6 in .28 even after running the movie through DVD Shrink so I think we can rule out whatever is causing this DVD Shrink fixes.
Now for the kicker, reauthors fine in .26 :)
nimbles
1st April 2004, 13:33
ok i'm confused now :confused:
I've been trying to do Gladiator R2 (Dsic 1) for the past 2 days kept getting runtime error 6 when it came to rebuilding the files-
I orginally ran the VIDEO_TS folder through Title set blanker to remove the Dolby and DTS ads. Tried that first and got the run time error (must have been near the end because the VTS_01_0x series was complete, and the other series were all set to 10k by Titlesetblanker).
Then thinking titleset blanker had done something naughty to the file structure- re did it without running titleset blanker. Got the Same run time error 6 at like 90-odd% of the rebuild stage.
Then you released 0.28 and i tried it again (hoping the prob had been sorted) again having run the dvd through titlset blanker.
Once again failed at the rebuild stage.
Every time once it failed i thought the output file size looked about right (~4.31GB) so decided to play it in poweredvd- menus load fine and can access about 50% pf chapters through chapterselection, however picking later chapters sent me back to the menu. And if i used the mouse to drag the slider into the later 1/3 of the filem it would freeze.
Now on the last run time 6 error- i didn't delete it and tried rebuilding the file with 0.26 and guess what? it worked. Thought something was up with that and ran it through Powerdvd again- all chapters in chapter selection go where they're supposed to and slider works properly too. I'm a little worried that Its not ok to do this (start a project in 0.27/0.28 and finish it 0.26?), and also being a n00b i used the one click solution each time it failed, but then just chose rebuild in 0.26.
Haven't yet burned it to dvd to verify the stuttering issue in standalones that some on this thread have mentioned, but did Donie Brasco R2 before hand and it it didn't exhibit that effect when i played it through my xbox- will burn this & report back.
Hope this is helpful- jdobbs if u need any more info i'll try and note down all other things i can from the settings etc.
Thanks again jdobbs for this!!
p.s. is there anyway of upping the out put file size a little? say from 4.31 -> 4.37? I know its only 60mb :sly:
A few of us including me have already gone back to 026 for the same reason.
p.s. is there anyway of upping the out put file size a little? say from 4.31 -> 4.37? I know its only 60mb
That is too much. I get 4.33GB most of the time. Some DVD's may not be able to burn that much. My discs like 4.36GB max.
I would like the ability to choose a custom amount by a simple option box in the settings.
I use 4452MB (4.34GB) in the DVD Shrink program.
nimbles
1st April 2004, 14:15
Ok nwg, i take your point- i usually take it up to about 4.36~4.37GB Using Ritek G04 Discs- DVD-r limit is actually 4489 mb- although never taken it to that limit)
Ok took my copy of Donnie brasco to the folks standalone, Panasonic RV31, and i concur with what some of the people here have said to a point- stangely there was no such probs with my xbox. I wouldn't call it really a stutter, but at the chapter changeover there is very short pulse/click (just one) and is only noticeable when a chpater point is inserted in the middle of a continuous scene- there doesn't seem to be any probs when the chapter marks the end of one scene/beginning of the next.
I was too inept to use the big three method so have no method to compare it to.
wmansir
1st April 2004, 14:46
I use G04's and almost always burn 4.37GB and I haven't had a problem yet. I have heard of some players that don't like it, but usually it is cheap media.
Anyway, you can adjust the output size, starting with V.24:
- Added ability to adjust target DVD size. I've purposely not made this
easily available so I don't get complaints of 4 hour recodes that don't fit.
To use, just add TargetSectors=nnnn under the [Options] section of the
REBUILDER.INI file. As a reference the default for DVD-RB is 2236400 and the
maximum for a DVD-5 is 2297888. But remember there always should be a little
room left for margin of error.
This was updated in V.28:-Removed "TargetSectors=" value and replaced it with one for each of the three
encoders. Now use one or more of "CCETargetSectors=", "ReJigTargetSectors=", and
"QuEncTargetSectors=" -- please note that "TargetSectors=" will still work, but
any of the encoder specific settings will override it for that encoder.
I can't burn 4.37 to my DVD+ discs. Not everybody has DVD-.
What number would be around 4.35GB for the targetsector option?
robw
1st April 2004, 15:43
confirming that I got a buffer overflow error #0004 with version 0.28 during batch processing
lab-one
1st April 2004, 15:46
This may be a bit redundant but...
Title: Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)
1. DVD-R Version: .28
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? 1.7
4. DVD Decrypter
4. Bug encountered: Error 6 "overflow". Occurred during rebuild phase.
Until now, I have been smooth sailing through most versions. No changes to my setup when running this through. Dropped in the disc and went to bed.
nimbles
1st April 2004, 15:47
thanks wmansir- i would assume you do a ratio- to work out what you can put on your dvd+/-r
dvd identifier and dvd decrypter also tell you how many sectors or on a blank disc- put the disc in and open one of them up and the no. of sectors should be on there, in the info.
dvd identifier also tells you what the full capacity of your disc is 4489mb for dvd-r, sorry i can't remember off the top of my head what it is for +r but i do know its slightly lower
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 15:50
The overflow error I keep getting starting with version .27 and up always occurs at the same position during the rebuild(phase iii) process.
That location happens to be a layer break.
Here is the AVS file RB creates if it helps at all.
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("G:\TEMP3\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(168997,168997)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)
Hmm, that's definitely a still frame cell (single I-Frame). Looks like there still are issues with still images remuxing.
Oldeman
1st April 2004, 16:24
Using DVD-RB v.28 with QuEnc v.45 on Runaway Jury give run time error "5" during rebuild of VOBID-3 cellid 1.
I did remove some xtras with DvdReMake.
Same source works ok using Rejig.
The ReJig version looks very good and sized at 4.34Gb.
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:03, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V04A.D2V")
trim(229329,229329)
ConvertToYV12()
nimbles
1st April 2004, 16:49
Hmmm.... now i'm getting a runtime 9 error "subscript out of range" on in dvd-rb 0.26 when trying to open up T2 (R2 Pal).
The only thing i can think of different to the other two i've tried is that there 7 vts series as opposed to 4 max with the other two i have tried.
edit: whoops that can't be the case- just tried processing the second disc which has 7 title sets as well and that works. having looked for this error through the thread this error is popping up as soon as i point dvd-rb to the source file which is on the HD (in my case "C:\VIDEO_TS") Everytime i open it thereafter it just chucks out the runtime error 9: subscript out of range. To get dvd rb to laod again i have to edit the source in the .ini file.
anyone lese have this problem?
Thought the decrypter may have crapped out when ripping but it opens in dvd shrink ok....
Axlemar
1st April 2004, 16:52
I got the same exact problem that oldeman got on VOBID:03, CELLID:01 after using DvdRemake to remove extras. I used quenc, addaudio(),ConvertToYV12(interlaced=true) and a film threshold of 70%. The DvdRemake didn't give me any errors and i'm using the newest version of both DvdRemake and dvd-rb. This was done on an anime series that I backed up with all versions prior to .28 after running through DvdShrink but this is the first time with DvdRemake.
Kakashi Sensei
1st April 2004, 17:06
ok Jdobbs heres my findings in the 28 days later Backup.
Processed w/DVD Decryptor and nothing stripped!!!!!!
dvd-rb: Version 0.28
OS: WinXP Pro
CCE: CCE V 2.66(sp)
the buffer Overflow error #0004 occured during the rebuilding phase at this point:
it was 99% complete of V0600000000 1001.M2V
-Processing VTS 06
-Rebuilding Segment:0 Vobid:1 Cellid:1
I hope that helps it was about 36% through the rebuilding stage.
People, please don't process the DVD through anything except DVDDecrypter before sending it through DVD-RB! In this early beta stage, noone can be sure the error is a result of the "butchering".
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 17:12
Can anyone please confirm if the overlow error you are experiencing is occuring at a still frame cell during the rebuild(phase iii) process?
Kakashi Sensei
1st April 2004, 17:36
Originally posted by chadp1a
Can anyone please confirm if the overlow error you are experiencing is occuring at a still frame cell during the rebuild(phase iii) process?
Just checked it out. That Vob title set VTS 6 is all still frames on 28 days later. Is there a dvd stripping program I can use to remove it and see if it works with out that??
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 17:40
Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Just checked it out. That Vob title set VTS 6 is all still frames on 28 days later. Is there a dvd stripping program I can use to remove it and see if it works with out that??
ummmm. Maybe try VobBlanker
it's located in the IFO/VOB Editors section here at doom9
lab-one
1st April 2004, 18:28
Are there any settings in DVD Decrypter that can cause DVD-RB problems? Just off of the top of my head (I am presently at work and can't check them at present) I know I have "remove PUOP's", "remove Macrovision...", "multi-angle" enabled. Is there a "right" way to set up DVD Decrypter that will provide files that are "pure" to process through DVD-RB.
Maybe a stupid question but I've asked.
robw
1st April 2004, 18:36
Originally posted by chadp1a
Can anyone please confirm if the overlow error you are experiencing is occuring at a still frame cell during the rebuild(phase iii) process?
Please explain how to look for that
lrosado
1st April 2004, 18:42
I still get the runtime error 6 at the rebuild phase. Same movie, Texas Chainsaw, Directly run only through DVD decrypter, ISO .IMG, first then mount the .IMG thru DeamonTools and straight thru DVDRB. Should I try FILE MODE only?
Originally posted by KungFuCow
Here's one to make you go "hmmmmmmmm"
Bring It On Again, error 6 in .28 even after running the movie through DVD Shrink so I think we can rule out whatever is causing this DVD Shrink fixes.
Now for the kicker, reauthors fine in .26 :)
Im having the same strange phenomena. Why is that? .27 couldnt rebuild but .26 could? Please, explain it to me. Movie: The Bridge Over River Kwai.
PS. Didnt run anything through any other app. Dvddecryper and DVD-RB only tools used. DS.
lab-one
1st April 2004, 18:54
@Irosado
I still get the runtime error 6 at the rebuild phase. Same movie, Texas Chainsaw, Directly run only through DVD decrypter, ISO .IMG, first then mount the .IMG thru DeamonTools and straight thru DVDRB. Should I try FILE MODE only?
I received the error 6 and ripped the DVD in file mode. Apparently mounting the image doesn't make a difference.
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 19:17
Originally posted by robw
Please explain how to look for that
As soon as I go the error with DVD-RB, I took note of where it occured, then used notepad to view the avs file that RB created for that particular cell in question.
IfoEdit dispalyed a timestamp of 00:00:01.00
Inside the avs you should see trim(xxxxx,yyyyy). xxxxx is the start frame and yyyyy is the end frame.
I am assuming that if the both are the same(meaning start and end) then it's a still frame.
2COOL
1st April 2004, 19:47
Just did Rundown (R1), straight after DVD Decrypter. I got an error #6 during rebuild with DVD-RB 0.28. :( I got tagged at V01002900002001. It's a still frame by looking at the trim line.
Here's the AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("C:\B\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(187376,187376)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)
Rebuilded with 0.26 and accomplished success till end, no more error #6. :D
chadp1a
1st April 2004, 19:51
Originally posted by 2COOL
Just did Rundown (R1), straight after DVD Decrypter. I got an error #6 during rebuild with DVD-RB 0.28. :( I got tagged at V01002900002001. It's a still frame by looking at the trim line.
Here's the AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("C:\B\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(187376,187376)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)
Rebuilded with 0.26 and accomplished success till end, no more error #6. :D
So it looks like .27 and .28 don't agree well with these still frames. Agree?
2COOL
1st April 2004, 19:53
Originally posted by chadp1a
So it looks like .27 and .28 don't agree well with these still frames. Agree? With others claiming it too? I agree along with my experience. I thought the still frame would be a problem also with 0.26 but was proven wrong.
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.
The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs.
I also had a theory about the audio glitches at chapter breaks that many people where reporting and I think it's confirmed now. I suspect the reason is seq_endcode=1 in the ECL, as a result CCE appends a MPEG sequence end code (0x01B7) to every M2V. I noticed this earlier but thought this flag is dropped during remuxing, but it's not. I demuxed the video M2V from the rebuilt VOBs with vstrip, imported into Scenarist and got the expected "Warning : Number of SequenceEndCode is 105" warning message (105 cells -> 105 sequence end codes). So more precisely, the audio glitches should be there for every cell, not just chapters (well most PGCs have as many chapters as cells). I'm sure some (most ?)standalones have problems with the unexpected end code and produce a small playback discontinuity when skipping over it. There should be exactly one sequence end code at the end of the last cell. Or simply drop it all together. It's not necessary AFAIK, I demuxed the M2V from some commerical DVDs and they always had no end code anywhere.
Also a suggestion about how Rebuilder is checking for the encoders still running. I noticed that during encoding, there was a peak in Rebuilder's CPU usage every few seconds. I suspect it goes into a tight loop every now and then and tries to find some CCE window or something. I don't know what's possible in VB, but here is what I'd be doing: launch the app via either CreateProcess() or ShellExecuteEx() APIs, the latter with the SEE_MASK_NOCLOSEPROCESS flag set. Now you have a process handle (hProcess) to the app you launched. Next use SetTimer() API to attach a timer to your window, 1 sec. timeout would be OK. So you get a WM_TIMER message every 1 sec. in your WndProc. When you get this message, use WaitForSingleObject(hProcess, 0) to check for the app still running. If the return value is WAIT_OBJECT_0, the app exited and you can close the handle via CloseHandle().
Oh and maybe you shouldn't make the DVD-RB window resizable, it doesn't look too well when you do :)
2COOL
1st April 2004, 21:45
Originally posted by RB
The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs.Similar to what I observed and experienced earlier in a previous post of mine way back on page 28 but fell upon deaf ears. :(
Another observation I have encountered is that I did one DVD that had motion Title menus (not in menu VOBs but movie VOBs), and when DVD-RB had successfully processed it, my menu buttons are non-existent. Don't know if this has been brought up before but I think DVD-RB can't process these types of VOBs with buttons in them.
caprioles9000
1st April 2004, 23:00
Wicked tool however i have read this whole thread and no one seems to get the problem that i get :
1. DVD-R Version: 0.27
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
3. Using eclCCE? 1.8a
4. Bug encountered: After it went through phase 1 when i comes to phase to to encode i get the following error pop up:
Trial limitation Error
Cant open ECL file
Any ideas ???
I am trying to back up 24 Season 2 Disc 7 Pal Region 2
Originally posted by RB
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.
Forgot one thing:
Your algorithm to decide which VTSes to skip because they are under a certain size seems to include the VTS menu VOBs (VTS_??_0.VOB) in the size calculation. You should leave the menu VOBs out of this (as long as you don't support shrinking the menus of course :) ) because in my particular case, this caused a 200 KB VTS_05_1.VOB to be processed.01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.BUP
01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.IFO
01.04.2004 16:43 260.245.504 VTS_05_0.VOB
01.04.2004 16:43 296.960 VTS_05_1.VOB
Originally posted by caprioles9000
Wicked tool however i have read this whole thread and no one seems to get the problem that i get :
1. DVD-R Version: 0.27
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
3. Using eclCCE? 1.8a
4. Bug encountered: After it went through phase 1 when i comes to phase to to encode i get the following error pop up:
Trial limitation Error
Cant open ECL file
You did not set up EclCCE correctly and/or did not enter the path to EclCCE.exe in Rebuilder. Run EclCCE at least once, point it at the CCE executable. Then in rebuilder, browse to EclCCE.exe (not cctspt.exe!) for "Path to CCE SP (New)".
jhmac
1st April 2004, 23:13
Sounds like eclCCE isn't configured correcctly and your CCE is a trial and it will not open or save ecl files. Just a guess I don't use eclcce I use the CCE Basic. Anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it...
Oooops RB beat me to it...
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 23:18
Originally posted by 2COOL
With others claiming it too? I agree along with my experience. I thought the still frame would be a problem also with 0.26 but was proven wrong. I would have though so too. I don't have any time available tonight -- but will look at this closely on Friday-Sunday... I've already told the wife I'm dedicating the entire weekend to nothing but programming and drinking coffee.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 23:20
The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs. I definitely am not. This is a "to-do" along with stills and interleaving.
caprioles9000
1st April 2004, 23:23
Originally posted by RB
You did not set up EclCCE correctly and/or did not enter the path to EclCCE.exe in Rebuilder. Run EclCCE at least once, point it at the CCE executable. Then in rebuilder, browse to EclCCE.exe (not cctspt.exe!) for "Path to CCE SP (New)".
damn that was a fast reply ...thnx RB ..wicked ....will change it ...looks like that might have been my problem
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 23:29
Originally posted by RB
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.
The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs.
I also had a theory about the audio glitches at chapter breaks that many people where reporting and I think it's confirmed now. I suspect the reason is seq_endcode=1 in the ECL, as a result CCE appends a MPEG sequence end code (0x01B7) to every M2V. I noticed this earlier but thought this flag is dropped during remuxing, but it's not. I demuxed the video M2V from the rebuilt VOBs with vstrip, imported into Scenarist and got the expected "Warning : Number of SequenceEndCode is 105" warning message (105 cells -> 105 sequence end codes). So more precisely, the audio glitches should be there for every cell, not just chapters (well most PGCs have as many chapters as cells). I'm sure some (most ?)standalones have problems with the unexpected end code and produce a small playback discontinuity when skipping over it. There should be exactly one sequence end code at the end of the last cell. Or simply drop it all together. It's not necessary AFAIK, I demuxed the M2V from some commerical DVDs and they always had no end code anywhere.
Also a suggestion about how Rebuilder is checking for the encoders still running. I noticed that during encoding, there was a peak in Rebuilder's CPU usage every few seconds. I suspect it goes into a tight loop every now and then and tries to find some CCE window or something. I don't know what's possible in VB, but here is what I'd be doing: launch the app via either CreateProcess() or ShellExecuteEx() APIs, the latter with the SEE_MASK_NOCLOSEPROCESS flag set. Now you have a process handle (hProcess) to the app you launched. Next use SetTimer() API to attach a timer to your window, 1 sec. timeout would be OK. So you get a WM_TIMER message every 1 sec. in your WndProc. When you get this message, use WaitForSingleObject(hProcess, 0) to check for the app still running. If the return value is WAIT_OBJECT_0, the app exited and you can close the handle via CloseHandle().
Oh and maybe you shouldn't make the DVD-RB window resizable, it doesn't look too well when you do :) RB: Thanks for the input. I'll fix the seq_endcode bug either by changing or stripping. As for the check, right now I get the process handle for CCE and stay in a loop where I release control, sleep for 250ms each time through, and then check to see if the process has terminated.
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 23:33
Originally posted by 2COOL
Similar to what I observed and experienced earlier in a previous post of mine way back on page 28 but fell upon deaf ears. :( [/B] I thought I'd told everyone that I wasn't supporting button over video yet... but I really don't want to go back through 10,000 pages trying to see if I did...
jdobbs
1st April 2004, 23:36
Originally posted by RB
Forgot one thing:
Your algorithm to decide which VTSes to skip because they are under a certain size seems to include the VTS menu VOBs (VTS_??_0.VOB) in the size calculation. You should leave the menu VOBs out of this (as long as you don't support shrinking the menus of course :) ) because in my particular case, this caused a 200 KB VTS_05_1.VOB to be processed.01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.BUP
01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.IFO
01.04.2004 16:43 260.245.504 VTS_05_0.VOB
01.04.2004 16:43 296.960 VTS_05_1.VOB I don't redo menus right now.
Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't redo menus right now.
Yes, I know, but you seem to include them in the VTS size calculation :) So this can cause a very small VOB to be processed that you would normally leave unprocessed, as you can see. The menu VOB is more than 200 megs whereas VTS_05_1.VOB is just 250 KB.
jdobbs
2nd April 2004, 01:30
Originally posted by RB
Yes, I know, but you seem to include them in the VTS size calculation :) So this can cause a very small VOB to be processed that you would normally leave unprocessed, as you can see. The menu VOB is more than 200 megs whereas VTS_05_1.VOB is just 250 KB. Oh!!! Sorry, I misunderstood... you are right -- and I really shouldn't do that! There's another one that will be fixed in 0.29!
DDogg
2nd April 2004, 02:01
build 0.28 Rejig mode -
jdobbs, I have a replicatable Run-time error '9' "subscript out of range" on rebuild. Let me know if you need any of the files, or any other information. I'll keep them for a while.
2COOL
2nd April 2004, 02:22
@jdobbs
I wanted to redo my Rundown DVD again so in a hurry, I didn't delete my VIDEO_TS folder which still contained previous files in my destination folder. I left home and came back thinking DVD-RB v0.28 would be done since I chose "One click" processing. Now, I didn't get any errors but my usual DVD-RB warning popped up after encoding stage had completed.
All contents of the working VIDEO_TS folder will be erased. Continue?
Now, it's a good thing in way since, at this moment, I really needed to rebuild with v.026 instead because this DVD gave me error #6 with 0.28 earlier. But, it's a bad thing down the road knowing that I have process stoppage since DVD-RB still needs user input to continue with "one click" option selected. Erasing VIDEO_TS folder should be automatic don't you think?
Note 1: Disregard above. Found that I didn't set warning supression on.
Note 2: I had processed this earlier with everything kept and my end size was 4.31 GB. My second time around, with only Spanish and French audio removed by DVD-RB, I got 4.61 GB. First time I had a sizing issue.
Update: By the way, I checked out to see if my audios were removed since I unchecked them in DVD-RB, they weren't. :(. I don't get it. If I keep them, I get 4.31 GB. If i choose to remove them, I get 4.61 GB. :confused: :confused:
ChickenMan
2nd April 2004, 02:45
Originally posted by ChickenMan
On a more serious note, I just got my first error today (been using RB very successfully since 0.15 with no errors or playback issues).
Title: A River Runs Through It - PAL R4(and R2)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b
RB ver 0.27 & 0.28
I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder.
Do I have to wait for 0.29 (or 0.30 ) for this one ?
jdobbs, keep up the good work, this is THE best program to hit the scene in the past 12 months.
Cheers,
cm
Further to this problem, I also tried DVD2One to pre-process but ended up withthe identical error in the same place, ie Runtime error 9 during the Prepare phase. Checking the D2VAVS folder, it appears the VTS 9 is not preccessed, ie processed ...6, 7, 8 and then 10 and errors out. VTS 9 contains another small trialer (the Marx Brothers in black & white).
V08000000001001.AVS
V08000100001002.AVS
(this file contains:-
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:02
#------------------
mpeg2source("J:\TEMP1\D2VAVS\V08A.D2V")
trim(3021,3035)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
ResampleAudio(44100)
V10000000001001.AVS
(this file contains:-
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
This is the directory of the original "A River Runs Through It" riped in file mode with DVD Dectypter:-
Directory of J:\A_RIVER_RUNS_THROUGH_IT\VIDEO_TS
02/04/2004 10:35 AM <DIR> .
02/04/2004 10:35 AM <DIR> ..
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VIDEO_TS.BUP
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VIDEO_TS.IFO
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 157,696 VIDEO_TS.VOB
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VTS_01_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VTS_01_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 141,856,768 VTS_01_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 4,237,312 VTS_01_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_02_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_02_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 157,696 VTS_02_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 20,293,632 VTS_02_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_03_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_03_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 157,696 VTS_03_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 12,826,624 VTS_03_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 71,680 VTS_04_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 71,680 VTS_04_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 157,696 VTS_04_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:08 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:10 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_2.VOB
31/03/2004 07:12 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_3.VOB
31/03/2004 07:14 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_4.VOB
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_5.VOB
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 221,325,312 VTS_04_6.VOB
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 22,528 VTS_05_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 22,528 VTS_05_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 157,696 VTS_05_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 422,987,776 VTS_05_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 26,624 VTS_06_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 26,624 VTS_06_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 157,696 VTS_06_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 768,100,352 VTS_06_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_07_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_07_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 157,696 VTS_07_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 96,065,536 VTS_07_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_08_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_08_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 157,696 VTS_08_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 98,869,248 VTS_08_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_09_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_09_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 157,696 VTS_09_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 53,454,848 VTS_09_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_10_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_10_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 157,696 VTS_10_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 63,094,784 VTS_10_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_11_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_11_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 157,696 VTS_11_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 83,734,528 VTS_11_1.VOB
53 File(s) 7,357,016,064 bytes
2 Dir(s) 110,208,577,536 bytes free
Hope this helps, if you need any more info, please let me know.
Cheers,
cm
Edit: Went back to 0.26 and still same error. This shows how VTS 9 is missed.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/laughton/rb-error.gif
cm
kadilak
2nd April 2004, 02:47
Originally posted by 2COOL
@jdobbs
Now, it's a good thing in way since, at this moment, I really needed to rebuild with v.026 instead because this DVD gave me error #6 with 0.28 earlier. But, it's a bad thing down the road knowing that I have process stoppage since DVD-RB still needs user input to continue with "one click" option selected. Erasing VIDEO_TS folder should be automatic don't you think?
I think if you select "Suppress Warning Prompts" under the Mode menu it will stop doing that.
2COOL
2nd April 2004, 02:59
@kadilak
Originally posted by kadilak
I think if you select "Suppress Warning Prompts" under the Mode menu it will stop doing that. You're right. Thanks! It wasn't on by default. My bad! I was in hurry so I didn't check it. No loss at this time since I didn't want to rebuild with 0.28 anyways. ;)
jdobbs
2nd April 2004, 04:28
@RB,
I'm at a loss to explain this one. I tried to create an ECL that would work with 1.8 -- but I just can't do it... It matches everything in the original exactly. I even do a DOS compare and it says the files match. But if I try and drag-and-drop the one I created into CCE v2.50 -- if gives that same error.
If I didn't see it myself, I wouldn't believe it.
I'm going to bed, my eyes have to be deceiving me.
onesoul
2nd April 2004, 05:47
Originally posted by RB
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.
The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here)... So you know this rabbit then :D
Originally posted by jdobbs
@RB,
I'm at a loss to explain this one. I tried to create an ECL that would work with 1.8 -- but I just can't do it... It matches everything in the original exactly. I even do a DOS compare and it says the files match. But if I try and drag-and-drop the one I created into CCE v2.50 -- if gives that same error.
If I didn't see it myself, I wouldn't believe it.
OK, I think you have much more important things to do than to work around this CCE ballerina :) I'll release EclCCE 1.8b and go back to the old way of loading the ECL into CCE-SP 2.50 there, no big deal. But out of interest, please email me or upload that ECL you created somewhere (we've exchanged email once before, you probably still have my address, otherwise please PM me).
Thanks for all the hard work, jdobbs! Truly amazing. I also have to say that this test I ran (with dynamically allocated bitrate option enabled) convinced me that this produces quality equal to an encode of the whole PGC in one big piece.
@onesoul:
Yeah, where is my holy hand grenade :D ? God, I love these movies!
winny
2nd April 2004, 13:08
I have an error message I don't believe has been posted previously.
The source is a PAL disk.
DVD-RB 0.28
Quenc 4.51
Dynamically assigned bitrates
The prepare and encode stages worked fine, however I got an error during the rebuild phase at 93.4%.
It got as far as segment 63, vobid:3, cellid:13, updating navpacks:-
"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"
(Nice message JDobbs :) )
I also tried redoing the whole process with CCE and got the same message at the same stage.
Has anyone else seen this before?
I did Battle Royale II with 0.28 and got freezes/skipping at every chapter. So I installed 0.21 and Rebuild with that instead. And hey presto, it now worked perfectly (well apart from the missing Closed Captions, but that's another story). The problem is also apparent in 0.27.
-tf
Msc_Alex
2nd April 2004, 14:50
Did 3 dvds went great ! !:D
DVDRB 0.28 (also 0.27 0.26 0.24)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b
Hit my fist trouble maker 3 days ago
PAL
Rules of Engagement CE
One click mode gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.
tried: dvd2one movie only and no compression
gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase
tried: dotif4u to demux files (everything went ok)
rebuild (no compression ) with Maestro (subs couldn't be loaded?) (subrip->stl could)
gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.
Tried: removed audio tracks and trimmed the start and end of the movie to ~150MB (5 minutes)
(had to add additional vobs to prevent the dvd is smaller than dvd5 warning)
gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.
Funny thing is the m2v file shows as :
interlaced, bottom field first (bitrateviewer and dif4u)
This is the first dvd I have seen to have this, normally only DV material ?
Tried restream and checked top field fist flag rebuild:
gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.
still looking for the cause
:)
Originally posted by RB
OK, I think you have much more important things to do than to work around this CCE ballerina :) I'll release EclCCE 1.8b and go back to the old way of loading the ECL into CCE-SP 2.50 there, no big deal.
OK, EclCCE 1.8b (http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/eclcce.zip) released, this should put CCE 2.50 back into the game.02/04/2004 v1.8b
- Fixed: compatibility issue with CCE-SP 2.50/2.62/2.64, jdobbs's
DVD-Rebuilder and command line ECL loading. No more AVIFileOpen
errors with DVD-Rebuilder generated ECLs for CCE-SP 2.50.
- Some internal code cleaning and small fixes.
manolito
2nd April 2004, 16:56
Thanks very much RB, now I can stop hunting for older versions of EclCCE.
I can confirm that eclCCE 1.8 works fine with CCE 2.50.
issa
2nd April 2004, 19:11
Hello,
I got "Run-time error: 6 Overflow" after I choose "Source Path".
I had tried three different DVDs; I got same error message.
I am using windows XP and DVD-RB V0.28
Stive
2nd April 2004, 20:48
Originally posted by tf
I did Battle Royale II with 0.28 and got freezes/skipping at every chapter. So I installed 0.21 and Rebuild with that instead. And hey presto, it now worked perfectly (well apart from the missing Closed Captions, but that's another story). The problem is also apparent in 0.27.
-tf
I tried this with v26 and rebuild with v21, but still have chapter stutter (already this setup available). :( I'll try the v28/v21 and see if that works for me also. Can't wait to get a good dvd. The ease of this software is fantastic (thanks jdobbs).:D
Kakashi Sensei
2nd April 2004, 23:44
Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Just checked it out. That Vob title set VTS 6 is all still frames on 28 days later. Is there a dvd stripping program I can use to remove it and see if it works with out that??
Ok just did 28 dyas later, Stripped the DVD with DVDStripper/MenuEdit and removed the offending sectors and Presto the dvd worked perfectl y. Thanks Jdobb for the great program. Hope this helps.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 05:09
Originally posted by 2COOL
Update: By the way, I checked out to see if my audios were removed since I unchecked them in DVD-RB, they weren't. :(. I don't get it. If I keep them, I get 4.31 GB. If i choose to remove them, I get 4.61 GB. :confused: :confused: [/B] You're the second person to report this happening -- but it doesn't seem to be consistent. Anything else happening when you did this? Did you save a project and then open it on the second try? I'm trying to see what set of circumstances can cause this.
I do know that if you do a "PREPARE" with the items unchecked and then "REBUILD" with them checked it will do exactly what you are reporting.
Thx.
brikin
3rd April 2004, 05:11
ReBuilder 0.28
CCE 2.66
I am Backing up XMen 2. There are 60 m2v files created in the Encode process. When I rebuild it makes it to the 30'th m2v (V04003000002001.m2v) file I get a
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error 0004. Process must abort."
error. I see the blue progress bar go all the way across for this file then when I would expect to see the "Updating information for NAVPACKS..." line in the status window I get this error.
In the REBUILDER.INF file it looks like this for this file
[V04003000002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=19270.000
I don't know if this helps.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 05:21
Originally posted by winny
I have an error message I don't believe has been posted previously.
The source is a PAL disk.
DVD-RB 0.28
Quenc 4.51
Dynamically assigned bitrates
The prepare and encode stages worked fine, however I got an error during the rebuild phase at 93.4%.
It got as far as segment 63, vobid:3, cellid:13, updating navpacks:-
"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"
(Nice message JDobbs :) )
I also tried redoing the whole process with CCE and got the same message at the same stage.
Has anyone else seen this before? This means there is a mismatch between the VOBID/CELLID structure found in the VTSs and that in the IFO. The only way I can see this happening is if an IFO and/or VTS in the source path was changed between the time of "PREPARE" and "REBUILD". The IFO is attempting to reference a VOBID/CELLID that doesn't exist.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 05:32
Originally posted by brikin
ReBuilder 0.28
CCE 2.66
I am Backing up XMen 2. There are 60 m2v files created in the Encode process. When I rebuild it makes it to the 30'th m2v (V04003000002001.m2v) file I get a
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error 0004. Process must abort."
error. I see the blue progress bar go all the way across for this file then when I would expect to see the "Updating information for NAVPACKS..." line in the status window I get this error.
In the REBUILDER.INF file it looks like this for this file
[V04003000002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=19270.000
I don't know if this helps. Could you post the contents of the .AVS for V04003000002001? Thanks.
2COOL
3rd April 2004, 05:48
In reply to last post on previous page...
Originally posted by jdobbs
You're the second person to report this happening -- but it doesn't seem to be consistent. Anything else happening when you did this?Not that I'm aware of.
Did you save a project and then open it on the second try?No. All I did was start again, selected 2 of 4 audios for removal, selected 4 passes instead of default 2, and did a one click process. I also didn't delete my previous folders but that shouldn't be a problem as they were going to be erased anyways.
My only suggestion is to try it out for yourself. Do first project with no audio stripping and the next with strippings. Don't know if setting different passes will account to size differences but it's your call.
Note: I did both projects preparing and encoding with v.028 and rebuilding with v0.26. ;)
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 06:54
Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Ok just did 28 dyas later, Stripped the DVD with DVDStripper/MenuEdit and removed the offending sectors and Presto the dvd worked perfectl y. Thanks Jdobb for the great program. Hope this helps. STILL FRAMES!!! ARGGHHHH I'm working on this very diligently right at this moment. Thanks for the help.
brikin
3rd April 2004, 07:22
Here is the content of V04003000002001.avs
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(81737,84780)
ConvertToYUY2()
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 07:26
Originally posted by brikin
Here is the content of V04003000002001.avs
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(81737,84780)
ConvertToYUY2() Thanks.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 07:55
Originally posted by chadp1a
The overflow error I keep getting starting with version .27 and up always occurs at the same position during the rebuild(phase iii) process.
That location happens to be a layer break.
Here is the AVS file RB creates if it helps at all.
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("G:\TEMP3\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(168997,168997)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100) To chadp1a and everyone else who is getting the Runtime '6' error. Can you confirm for me that you are getting it on a still frame that is also the last .AVS in a VTS? That means it is the last in a series of files that starts with a specific VXX name, for example:
...
V01002100002003.AVS
V01002200002004.AVS
V01002300002005.AVS <--- This is the one that causes it
V02000000001001.AVS
V02000100001002.AVS
...
wmansir
3rd April 2004, 08:51
I received a runtime 6 error on Back to the Future II. The program said it was processing VTS04 vobid 01, however the last vobid of VTS03 was a still cell and the error happened just as it moved to VTS04, so perhaps it was the previous vobid that was causing the error.
EDIT:
PS. The movie (in VTS02) contained a 'complex' subtitle stream. Not button over, but highly animated trivia subs. RB handled these perfectly, which is something VobSub+Scenarist could not do. :)
Not related to this issue, or any issue, just an FYI.
Paced
3rd April 2004, 08:56
It may just be me, but I think I've found the reason why DVD-RB causes CCE to go 'slower' than it does in DIF4U and/or other cases. It's quite simple actually; the trim(x,x) command - when I disable it, I go from 1.600 to ~1.800 (speed-wise in CCE 2.50). But of course, the trim(x,x) command is needed for DVD-RB to work the way it does, and the slight speed increase doesn't really make a huge difference anyway :)
2COOL
3rd April 2004, 09:14
Originally posted by jdobbs
To chadp1a and everyone else who is getting the Runtime '6' error. Can you confirm for me that you are getting it on a still frame that is also the last .AVS in a VTS? That means it is the last in a series of files that starts with a specific VXX name, for example:
...
V01002100002003.AVS
V01002200002004.AVS
V01002300002005.AVS <--- This is the one that causes it
V02000000001001.AVS
V02000100001002.AVS
...
Here's my previous post on this matter.
Originally posted by 2COOL
Just did Rundown (R1), straight after DVD Decrypter. I got an error #6 during rebuild with DVD-RB 0.28. :( I got tagged at V01002900002001. It's a still frame by looking at the trim line.
Here's the AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("C:\B\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(187376,187376)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)
Rebuilded with 0.26 and accomplished success till end, no more error #6. :D
Here's my inquiry of V01002900002001 from IfoEdit
PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:44:06.26 / 30 fps] (Programs: 29) (Cells: 30)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:08:56.20 / 30 fps
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:02:32.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:03:01.25 / 30 fps
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:01:55.10 / 30 fps
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:04:19.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:06:07.20 / 30 fps
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 1/ 7] : time: 00:02:21.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 08] [Pg 08] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 1/ 8] : time: 00:02:39.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 09] [Pg 09] [Cell 09] [V/C Id: 1/ 9] : time: 00:01:49.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 10] [Pg 10] [Cell 10] [V/C Id: 1/10] : time: 00:02:43.05 / 30 fps
[Ch 11] [Pg 11] [Cell 11] [V/C Id: 1/11] : time: 00:02:18.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 12] [Pg 12] [Cell 12] [V/C Id: 1/12] : time: 00:03:28.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 13] [Pg 13] [Cell 13] [V/C Id: 1/13] : time: 00:06:17.16 / 30 fps
[Ch 14] [Pg 14] [Cell 14] [V/C Id: 1/14] : time: 00:03:31.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 15] [Pg 15] [Cell 15] [V/C Id: 1/15] : time: 00:02:16.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 16] [Pg 16] [Cell 16] [V/C Id: 1/16] : time: 00:04:19.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 17] [Pg 17] [Cell 17] [V/C Id: 1/17] : time: 00:06:46.27 / 30 fps
[Ch 18] [Pg 18] [Cell 18] [V/C Id: 1/18] : time: 00:03:42.27 / 30 fps
[Ch 19] [Pg 19] [Cell 19] [V/C Id: 1/19] : time: 00:01:22.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 20] [Pg 20] [Cell 20] [V/C Id: 1/20] : time: 00:04:08.11 / 30 fps
[Ch 21] [Pg 21] [Cell 21] [V/C Id: 1/21] : time: 00:01:30.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 22] [Pg 22] [Cell 22] [V/C Id: 1/22] : time: 00:01:47.01 / 30 fps
[Cell 23] [V/C Id: 1/23] : time: 00:03:44.29 / 30 fps
[Ch 23] [Pg 23] [Cell 24] [V/C Id: 1/24] : time: 00:05:22.04 / 30 fps
[Ch 24] [Pg 24] [Cell 25] [V/C Id: 1/25] : time: 00:03:07.26 / 30 fps
[Ch 25] [Pg 25] [Cell 26] [V/C Id: 1/26] : time: 00:02:31.10 / 30 fps
[Ch 26] [Pg 26] [Cell 27] [V/C Id: 1/27] : time: 00:02:59.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 27] [Pg 27] [Cell 28] [V/C Id: 1/28] : time: 00:01:30.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 28] [Pg 28] [Cell 29] [V/C Id: 1/29] : time: 00:06:54.05 / 30 fps
[Ch 29] [Pg 29] [Cell 30] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:01.00 / 30 fps
zeus163
3rd April 2004, 09:37
I've been following this thread for quite some time, but haven't had a chance to try DVD Rebuilder yet. I tried it today and it was great. I started Nowhere In Africa (region 1) around 4 and had burnt the DVD by 9 using 3 pass in CCE! Wow!
The picture and quality look great, but I've noticed pixelations during chapter transitions (I wouldn't know these are where the chapters are if the video didn't pixelate for a brief, and I mean very brief second). I had read about this earlier and went back to check what Kungfucow and Jdobbs had discussed and I thought it had been fixed. Did I miss a setting? I've pretty much left everything at default except for the settings I need to change (where ECL is and where my mpeg2dec file is located. Do I need to run the files through Ifoedit?
I was using the latest beta .28. Unfortunately, I cannot try this again until after we get back from spring break! But if anybody has some ideas, I'm all ears.
Even though I have this slight hicup, I'd like to send Jdobbs a huge Kudos! Thanks!
chadp1a
3rd April 2004, 10:18
Originally posted by jdobbs
To chadp1a and everyone else who is getting the Runtime '6' error. Can you confirm for me that you are getting it on a still frame that is also the last .AVS in a VTS? That means it is the last in a series of files that starts with a specific VXX name, for example:
...
V01002100002003.AVS
V01002200002004.AVS
V01002300002005.AVS <--- This is the one that causes it
V02000000001001.AVS
V02000100001002.AVS
...
yes jdobbs
I can confirm that I am getting it on a still frame that is also the last .avs in a vts.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 13:10
Originally posted by Paced
It may just be me, but I think I've found the reason why DVD-RB causes CCE to go 'slower' than it does in DIF4U and/or other cases. It's quite simple actually; the trim(x,x) command - when I disable it, I go from 1.600 to ~1.800 (speed-wise in CCE 2.50). But of course, the trim(x,x) command is needed for DVD-RB to work the way it does, and the slight speed increase doesn't really make a huge difference anyway :) I run at the same speed either way -- I can't imagine the trim() command having that kind of affect. There has to be more at play.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 13:13
Cool all, thanks for the feedback. I found the runtime error '6' and it will be fixed in Version 0.29 (I will release later today, I'm trying to round up and implement all my "promises")
jhmac
3rd April 2004, 15:44
Any idea if you've found the audio skip problem also...
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 15:53
Originally posted by jhmac
Any idea if you've found the audio skip problem also... I do know that there was a problem associated with the fact that I had incorrectly set "seq_endcode=1" in CCE's .ECL files and that could theoretically cause the audio skip. That has been fixed in 0.29. But I can't say yet, for sure, whether that fixes it. I should know more before I post it.
jhmac
3rd April 2004, 16:02
I hope so, that was the only problem I've had with DVD-RB. I don't know why but I haven't had the other errors that most have been having. It could be that I am using CCE Basic, I have noticed that most are using the CCE SP v2.50. Not sure if that makes a difference. Anyway thank you for all your hard work, if the audio prob is fixed then I will be using it as my main back-up software and you will be getting a donation from me in the near future. Thanks!
Originally posted by jdobbs
STILL FRAMES!!! ARGGHHHH I'm working on this very diligently right at this moment. Thanks for the help.
Note that still frame cells can be located anywhere, not just at the end of a PGC. Also, it is possible for a cell to consist of multiple still frames, all coded as I-Frames (I I I I...). In this case you'll have to set up CCE accordingly, that is
gop_m=1
gop_nm=1
gop_hdr=1 in the ECL. Maybe it would be just easier for you to demux still frames during the prepare step and remux them as-is?
EDIT: maybe this setup should also be choosen for single-stillframe cells?
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 16:37
The problem wasn't caused by the fact that it was a still frame (although I still have issues I'm working with stills) -- it was only when a still was located at the end of VTS, had no audio/subpictures associated with it, and it reset the SCR. It was in a routine I have that scans forward looking for the next non-video sector.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 16:41
Originally posted by RB
Note that still frame cells can be located anywhere, not just at the end of a PGC. Also, it is possible for a cell to consist of multiple still frames, all coded as I-Frames (I I I I...). In this case you'll have to set up CCE accordingly, that is
gop_m=1
gop_nm=1
gop_hdr=1 in the ECL. Unfortunately the way I work it now setting these parameters would apply them to the entire CELL -- and not all the CELL would have to necessarily be I frames. So my choice is to either (1) break them out into separate .AVS files or (2) demux them and leave them alone. There are a couple reasons why the second choice has issues. This is exactly what I am working on right now. (note: there's no issue with ReJig because it is a transcoder)
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 16:46
@RB
Hmmm... I'm trying to think (which in itself is an accomplishment)... Is there ever a time that a cell can have a mixture of I frames (stills) and typical GOPs?
Added later: I don't think I remember ever seeing one...
Honestly, I don't know. It should be possible in theory... the question is, is there something in the VOB (NAV pack ?) that uniquely identifies a "still frame", IOW a frame that should be displayed for a certain amount of time or "forever". The latter AFAIK happens when the cell has the "restricted" flag set in the IFO, the user then typically has to press the play/enter key on the remote to skip through the stills.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 17:05
Originally posted by RB
Honestly, I don't know. It should be possible in theory... the question is, is there something in the VOB (NAV pack ?) that uniquely identifies a "still frame", IOW a frame that should be displayed for a certain amount of time or "forever". The latter AFAIK happens when the cell has the "restricted" flag set in the IFO, the user then typically has to press the play/enter key on the remote to skip through the stills. Yes. The NAVPACK has a VOBU Start and Ending Presentation Time (PTM) on a still you see only one frame, but the end PTM goes out further than a single frame would...
Trahald
3rd April 2004, 18:34
here is something i'll retype out of dvd demystified --
"There are 3 types of stills -- a pgc still, a cell still, and a vobu still. each has about the same functionality, with the primary difference being the way it is intended to be used and the location where the still information is stored. in all cases , the still occurs at the last PTM of a VOBU. A VOBU stil causes a still at the end of a specific VOBU, a cell still causes a still at the last VOBU of the cell. and a PGC still causes a still at the last VOBU of the PGC. VOBU stills and cell stills occur before the cell command is executed. PGC stills., which can be used in random or shuffle pgcs but not sequential pgcs, occur after cell commands and pgc looping but before the post commands. during a still. the navigation countdown timer and any GPRMs in counter mode continue to count. PGC and cell stills can be held indefinitely or from 1 to 254 seconds. VOBU stills are always indefinite." -- dvd demystified 2nd ed.
hopefully that would be helpful.. i was in a typing mood... :)
Pedro Gouveia
3rd April 2004, 18:49
@ jdobbs. The BUG with sound skips in chapter points, seems to be related to data missing/changed in LAST AC3-Audio Pack of EVERY Cell.
The lenght of most of these AC3-Audio Packs in RB authored VOBS are smaller than the original ones.
The problem can be fixed by copying the original AC3-Audio Packs from original VOBS to the RB authored ones, and manually correcting the lenght.
kadilak
3rd April 2004, 19:25
Originally posted by Paced
It may just be me, but I think I've found the reason why DVD-RB causes CCE to go 'slower' than it does in DIF4U and/or other cases. It's quite simple actually; the trim(x,x) command - when I disable it, I go from 1.600 to ~1.800 (speed-wise in CCE 2.50). But of course, the trim(x,x) command is needed for DVD-RB to work the way it does, and the slight speed increase doesn't really make a huge difference anyway :)
There may also be another reason for this. When DVD-RB calls CCE, take a look at task manager on your computer. On mine, DVD-RB is using 25% of the processor, while CCE uses the remaining 75%. This could easily account for the slower speeds.
I'm not sure anyone else has reported this problem but me, so I'd appreciate if someone else would take a look and see if the same thing is happening to them.
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 19:27
Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
@ jdobbs. The BUG with sound skips in chapter points, seems to be related to data missing/changed in LAST AC3-Audio Pack of EVERY Cell.
The lenght of most of these AC3-Audio Packs in RB authored VOBS are smaller than the original ones.
The problem can be fixed by copying the original AC3-Audio Packs from original VOBS to the RB authored ones, and manually correcting the lenght. Actually I am copying the original AC3 audio packs from the original stream... but if I am missing data, I am obviously doing something wrong at the end of each cell. I'm glad you posted this -- I was thinking about putting 0.29 up, but I'd rather wait until I check this out.
BUT.... if what you are saying is correct then I have been misled -- I thought running the output through IFOEdit was fixing this? There's no way IFOEdit can replace missing audio????
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 19:30
Originally posted by kadilak
There may also be another reason for this. When DVD-RB calls CCE, take a look at task manager on your computer. On mine, DVD-RB is using 25% of the processor, while CCE uses the remaining 75%. This could easily account for the slower speeds.
I'm not sure anyone else has reported this problem but me, so I'd appreciate if someone else would take a look and see if the same thing is happening to them. It has to be a configuration on your individual machine -- you probably have CCE set to a lower priority. On my machine CCE is consistently getting 98-99% of the processor while running.
Msc_Alex
3rd April 2004, 20:24
Runtime error ‘9’ subscript out of range (VTS_01)
Well Jdobbs I have found a way to bypass this error.
Tolled you about the movie that it was Bottom field first and Interlaced.
A wonderful tool called Vobedit :D showed This at the fist I GOP
of VTS_01_1.VOB :
[0032] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[0036] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 249 28 0 0 [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ]
Extension ID-bits: 8
f_code[0][0] (forward horizontal): 143
f_code[0][1] (forward vertical): 15
f_code[1][0] (backward horizontal): 255
f_code[1][1] (backward vertical): 15
intra_DC_precision: 2
picture_structure: 1
picture_structure: Top Field
Top_Field_First: 0
TOP_FIELD_FIRST: 0
frame_pred_frame_dct: 0
Then I made a adjustment comparing with movie that did work
[0032] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[0036] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 247 28 0 0 [8f ff f7 1c 00 00 ]
Extension ID-bits: 8
f_code[0][0] (forward horizontal): 143
f_code[0][1] (forward vertical): 15
f_code[1][0] (backward horizontal): 255
f_code[1][1] (backward vertical): 15
intra_DC_precision: 1
picture_structure: 3
picture_structure: Frame picture
Top_Field_First: 0
TOP_FIELD_FIRST: 0
Guess what ? It worked, no more runtime error’9’ (only edit the first GOP)
It gave the error at VTS2 which was also: [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ]
(This was VTS_02_1.VOB)
After setting this to f7 it went ok :devil:
I had set the ConvertToYUY2(Interlaced=true) option and it came out good.
Well you’re the Master of science here, hope it helps…
(btw: this is the only case in where upper field first had to be set in CCE but i didn't)
Take a break
:cool:
legomen
3rd April 2004, 20:32
jdobbs,
Any information on how to bypass runtime error #4, or will there be a fix for it in .29?
thanks for the great tool.
kadilak
3rd April 2004, 21:14
Originally posted by jdobbs
It has to be a configuration on your individual machine -- you probably have CCE set to a lower priority. On my machine CCE is consistently getting 98-99% of the processor while running.
I've set the CCE process to the highest priority possible, and the same thing still happens.
Does it make sense that DVD-RB would be using 25% of the processor anyway? DVD-RB is just waiting on CCE to exit, right?
Originally posted by jdobbs
Actually I am copying the original AC3 audio packs from the original stream... but if I am missing data, I am obviously doing something wrong at the end of each cell. I'm glad you posted this -- I was thinking about putting 0.29 up, but I'd rather wait until I check this out.
BUT.... if what you are saying is correct then I have been misled -- I thought running the output through IFOEdit was fixing this? There's no way IFOEdit can replace missing audio????
Could this also be related to the sequence end code issue I reported?
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 22:00
Originally posted by RB
Could this also be related to the sequence end code issue I reported? I fixed the seq_endcode so it always equals "0" -- but when I ran LOTR2 (my example of where this happens) it didn't fix it. This is the one remaining bug I'm trying to fix before posting...
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 22:03
Originally posted by legomen
jdobbs,
Any information on how to bypass runtime error #4, or will there be a fix for it in .29?
thanks for the great tool. I haven't fixed that yet. It is related to stills (different from the previous error), I may not get that fixed until 0.30 -- either that or I'll have to delay posting 0.29 until it is done...
jdobbs
3rd April 2004, 22:45
Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
@ jdobbs. The BUG with sound skips in chapter points, seems to be related to data missing/changed in LAST AC3-Audio Pack of EVERY Cell.
The lenght of most of these AC3-Audio Packs in RB authored VOBS are smaller than the original ones.
The problem can be fixed by copying the original AC3-Audio Packs from original VOBS to the RB authored ones, and manually correcting the lenght. Can you be a little more specific on this one. Does it look like there is data missing from one packet -- or that it looks like a packet is missing? How do you do the comparison, demux? or viewing in VOBEDIT?
Thx.
Msc_Alex
4th April 2004, 00:00
@ ChickenMan
could you confirm this :
runtime 9 error
and open you VTS_10_1.VOB file with vobedit
edit the " Picture Coding Extension " of the first I GOP
set it to [8f ff f7 1c 00 00 ]
to solve your runtime 9 error ?
Love this beta testing :p
hypo20
4th April 2004, 00:44
@jdobbs
Are you delaying .29???
jdobbs
4th April 2004, 00:52
Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs
Are you delaying .29??? I still haven't been able to find the audio error... I'm starting to get a little burned out. I may post it as-is and fix the audio in 0.30
I still haven't been able to find the audio error... I'm starting to get a little burned out. I may post it as-is and fix the audio in 0.30
Please do ;)
I want to try it out overnight.
You sound like you need a break for a bit.
jdobbs
4th April 2004, 01:37
Originally posted by jdobbs
I still haven't been able to find the audio error... I'm starting to get a little burned out. I may post it as-is and fix the audio in 0.30 It's posted.
hypo20
4th April 2004, 01:43
@jdobbs
You're da man!!!
For you, it is not enough to give to world this HOLY app, but you're doing things, what users want. :)
Hat down before you. I salute you. :D
Pedro Gouveia
4th April 2004, 01:44
Originally posted by jdobbs
Can you be a little more specific on this one. Does it look like there is data missing from one packet -- or that it looks like a packet is missing? How do you do the comparison, demux? or viewing in VOBEDIT?
Thx.
I'm back
I've compared/fixed using VOB edit.
The data missing is from last AC3-Audio Pack of each cell
A easy way to test this out is to do a vobedit Demux by cell ID, both RB authored and original VOB, select one cell then goto last AC3-Audio Pack and compare.
Pedro Gouveia
4th April 2004, 01:57
There is data missing from AC3-Audiopacks
One example
VOBID3 CELL 4, Same PTS (last AC3-Audio Pack in this Cell)
RB Authored -> Lenght 0473h
Original VOB-> Lenght 062ch
jdobbs
4th April 2004, 02:04
This is going to be interesting. I can't for the life of me figure how I could be shortening this... but I obviously am.
Pedro Gouveia
4th April 2004, 02:10
Originally posted by jdobbs
Actually I am copying the original AC3 audio packs from the original stream... but if I am missing data, I am obviously doing something wrong at the end of each cell. I'm glad you posted this -- I was thinking about putting 0.29 up, but I'd rather wait until I check this out.
BUT.... if what you are saying is correct then I have been misled -- I thought running the output through IFOEdit was fixing this? There's no way IFOEdit can replace missing audio????
I'm affraid, passing through IFOedit doesn't replace the missing data in the AC3-Audio Packs.
Pedro Gouveia
4th April 2004, 02:13
If you want, i can send you a screenshot of both RB and original Cell diferences.
jdobbs
4th April 2004, 04:11
Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
If you want, i can send you a screenshot of both RB and original Cell diferences. Please do. Either here or in a PM.
Thx.
DDogg
4th April 2004, 07:05
From .29b release log
- Changed the AVS option for adding audio to fix the well-known CCE 2.50 and AMD processor bug. JDobbs, nothing like this is being added to the scripts that I can see. Originally posted by RB
... However, funnily enough, it's still advised for CCE 2.66+ because otherwise CCE will continously increase it's memory usage with every VBR pass (not an issue with CCE 2.50!). You can see this in task manager, grabs a new large chunk of memory at the start of every pass and never releases it until you close CCE. This does not happen when there's an audio track in the AVS. You note this is only for CCE 2.5, but as RB mentioned, it is needed in later versions because of the memory problem in multipass. Wouldn't it be better to just put it in all the scripts, no matter what the version? Maybe I missed a subsequent post between you guys on that.
Oh, just to state the obvious, incredible job!
Paced
4th April 2004, 08:57
I really hate to bring this up, but DVD-RB doesn't seem to be enabling/disabling various CCE commands properly (progressive, ZigZag, etc.). Here's what's happening for me:
- the DVD is PAL (contains progressive and interlaced streams).
- DVD-RB sets ConvertToYUY2() (interlaced=true isn't enabled) in the AVS scripts for every VTS set (even the interlaced streams).
- DVD-RB sets every AVS file to be encoded as 'Progressive' with 'ZigZag' enabled (again, it does this with the interlaced streams also) in CCE.
Maybe you could check up on this jdobbs (when you have the time of course)?
PS - I'm using CCE 2.50 (if that helps).
//Edit
I tried it once more with "Deinterlace with Decomb" enabled, and it still didn't pick up the interlaced streams (thus FieldDeinterlace() wasn't added into any AVS file).
Originally posted by DDogg
JDobbs, nothing like this is being added to the scripts that I can see.
Same here.
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