DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports

[Raymongo]

As soon as i hit the process button this message appears. I did not do any stripping i just used dvd decrypter thats all. I did try more versions (older) but the same problem appears there also. It is a dutch movie witch is PAL and is also interlaced.

De Schippers van de Kameleon / Version 0.16 - 0.22 - 0.23 - 0.24
CCE 2.67.0.23
eclcce Yes
Error appears as soon as the prepare button is hit!

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Run-time_error_9.jpg

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon.

Raymongo, her is the answer. Some moves have this problem, even wneh not stripped. 2 bad. We will have a fix for that "soon" (jdobbs).

PS. Thanks jdobbs for you aswer to my previos question. DS.

[gvittoz]

now it is ok for the first error but
I've got the problem "error 380"
anyone know what's suppose

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
No. You shouldn't have to recode. The problem (I thought) was in the rebuild. Had you tried fixing the problem previously by running it through IFOEdit? I was under the impression from previous posts that they went away when the pointers were fixed.
The problems do go away (for the most part) when doing in ifoedit:
- Correct Vob-Unit (Navigation Pack) pointers in VOB-files
- Correct original IFO files

However as RB said, I wouldn't put 100% faith in the ifoedit output in this case. I saw a residual weirdness after doing this procedure. When RW past a particular chapter point, it jumped to chapter+2. This only happened on one chapter. Otherwise it looked okay. Pixelation and jumpiness at chapter points was fixed.

I also confirmed pixelation and jumpiness remains after full recode-rebuild with 0.24.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs,

dude, please help me with this interlacing problem. I tried again last night with the ConverttoYUY2(interlaced=true) in the AVS's and it's still not working. I think it might be something within the authoring process because when I author just the M2V's with Adobe Encore, I do not see this interlacing problem. I am very very lost.

[trebor]

I got the exakt same problem as Raymongo and have been since version 0.16 (on some dvdr's, not all)
Was just about to post a screenshot like his one :p

[quantum]

Originally posted by redfive19
dude, please help me with this interlacing problem. I tried again last night with the ConverttoYUY2(interlaced=true) in the AVS's and it's still not working. I think it might be something within the I'm sure he's read your half dozen (or more) posts about the same issue. If I was jdobbs, I would have categorized your tff/bff issue as low priority. He's got several problems that affect everyone and he's working on them diligently every day. This is beta software which means it's a work in progress. Since you're obviously desperate to copy your one disk, why don't you use one of the many released and stable programs available, DVDShrink and others.

[StifflerStealth]

@Redfive19
Actually, I was going to suggest doing some tests to find out whats wrong for jdobbs rather than using another program to back it up. This is what I'm suggesting, so correct me if I'm wrong. Use DoIfFast4U on demux by CellID, read the guides to get the other settings, but in the post processing settings do not have it launch another program. then once it finished demuxing by CellID, open the CCEdata.txt and figure out which cells are the first five cells of the main movei and then delete the rest out of that text file. Open DoCCE4U or BatchCCEWS, what ever you want, goto file-->Load list, and select your CCEdata.txt file. Then press the green play button. Once that's finished, compare those encoded cells with the five corrisponding cells from ReBuilder. If the ones from DoCCE/BatchCCE look better, then tell us and post the contents of the AVS files and D2V files.

You do not need to post all the lines in the d2v file that resemble this:
7 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 0 0 1
7 0 4E 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 0 FD 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
.
.
.

Stiff

PS. That was brief, but if you need more help setting up the above mentioned progs, PM me.

[redfive19]

@quantum
I apologize if I came off wrong in the last post. I am just a bit flustered over this process. I've been trying all different combos and wasting DVD-R's (I know, I need to get some -RW's). I completely appreciate jdobbs' work. I was hoping that someone else here was also encoding an interlaced DVD and ran across the same problem.

@StifflerStealth

I will go through the Big3 process you described and see what's up. The only problem that stopped me from doing this before is I am not completely sure of the Scenarist part when Demuxing by VOBID of CELLID. But if all I have to provide is the D2V info, than I can do that. Thanks for all your help.

-redfive

[StifflerStealth]

I just saying that you should stop after the encoding part, and not use Scenarist. Also, you only need to encode five cells, so that should not take too long, you can still campare the video quality.

Stiff

[wakebrder]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmm... I thought the stuttering/pixelation went away after running it through IFOEdit??? I thought I had that problem nailed... I'll have to look at it again tonight.

The same movie (Blade2) was flawless after running through IFOEdit.

I thought you had this fixed in version .24.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

You're so damn close!!:D

[francois20001]

jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work

[CeanD]

EDIT:: Fixed

[DMagic1]

I can import the v0.24 output in to Shrink and run uncompressed without errors.

If I try to run the v0.24 output in CloneDVD with no compressions I get NavigationPack errors just like in versions before v0.24

v.023 output run thru IFOEdit to correct, then run thru CloneDVD wouldnt give the NavigationPack errors.

v.024 run thru Shrink to correct, then run thru CloneDVD doesnt give the NavigationPack errors.

I havent run v.024 thru IFOEdit yet.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by francois20001
jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work Hmmm... I always thought of it as a feature -- but when you are mounting ISO images it becomes a bug... I'll think of something.

[DMagic1]

Just comparing I notice that RB always has VOB sizes that aren't what you normally see.

RB VOBs
1,048,560 kb
1,048,562 kb
1,048,562 kb
1,048,562 kb
329,856 kb

Shrink corrected RB VOBs
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
329,806 kb

But both have the same cells in each vob.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I can import the v0.24 output in to Shrink and run uncompressed without errors.

If I try to run the v0.24 output in CloneDVD with no compressions I get NavigationPack errors just like in versions before v0.24

v.023 output run thru IFOEdit to correct, then run thru CloneDVD wouldnt give the NavigationPack errors.

v.024 run thru Shrink to correct, then run thru CloneDVD doesnt give the NavigationPack errors.

I havent run v.024 thru IFOEdit yet.

Does passing dvdrb output through dvdshirnk (uncompressed) solve chapter pixelation problem?

[CeanD]

Fixed

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by P3gasus
Does passing dvdrb output through dvdshirnk (uncompressed) solve chapter pixelation problem?

I'm burning now to see.

*Update*
Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output.

[insane822]

I tried searching through these threads for this topic before, so if it has been discussed can someone please point me there.

I Have D2V options set to force film.
But I don't see what the point of that is when DVD-RB doesn't have CCE encode with 3:2 pulldown, nor does it have it encode with zig-zag.

So the output i get from CCE is interlaced :/

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

One good thing is that there are nearly as many differences between the Shrink corrected VOBs of v.024 and the IFOEdit corrected VOBs of v.023. Its seems like its almost there.

I still need to do the IFOEdit correction to v.024 and see how it compares to the IFOEdit corrections of v.023.

[CeanD]

I now get this:

http://www.ceand.com/images/dvdbrerror.jpg

I successfully got the menus done, but the main film was MIA at this point.

[robw]

JDobbs
just a recommendation for the batch option. Would be nice to have a save and load feature. That way, one can set up the batch file and save it. Later (at the end of the evening) just load and run while you go off to bed.

Just something for the list, certainly lower priority.

[quantum]

@jdobbs and others: This is a sample of the pixelation at chapter points. I took a picture of the TV set. I couldn't think of any other way to capture it. The large cubes are the pixels and the man is ghosted.

http://www.connforum.com/pixels.jpg

[RB]

Originally posted by insane822
I Have D2V options set to force film.
But I don't see what the point of that is when DVD-RB doesn't have CCE encode with 3:2 pulldown, nor does it have it encode with zig-zag.

So the output i get from CCE is interlaced :/
The 3:2 pulldown in CCE is inverse 3:2 pulldown, not needed here. Rebuilder applies pulldown itself during remuxing. Also your output isn't interlaced, it's just encoded with alternate scan and progressive frames off. I guess Rebuilder is just replicating the original stream encoding in CCE which is good.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DMagic1
*Update*Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output. [/B] Confirmed. I processed my test disk output from dvdrb through shrink. Since it was already under the size limit, everything was set to 100% size and it took under 3 minutes to process. Ifo's and vobs were different sizes so things were changed all around. The pixelation and stuttering at chapters points seems completely gone and everything appears as it should be. This looked a bit better than the ifoedit output.

I also noticed shrink removed the various p-uops and I can go directly to the menu. This couldn't have anything to do with it could it?

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I'm burning now to see.

*Update*
Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output.

I just ran the v.024 output thru IFOEdit also just as we did with v.023.
It also corrected the problem just as Shrink does.

It seems that CloneDVD is a fair tool to test for this navigation/chapter pixelation problem since it is the only one of the one-clicks left that still reports a problem with the v.024 output. But it doesnt report a problem after Shrink or IFOEdit corrections.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I just ran the v.024 output thru IFOEdit also just as we did with v.023.
It also corrected the problem just as Shrink does.

It seems that CloneDVD is a fair tool to test for this navigation/chapter pixelation problem since it is the only one of the one-clicks left that still reports a problem with the v.024 output. But it doesnt report a problem after Shrink or IFOEdit corrections. Wow. I'm checking.

[redfive19]

@stiffler & @jdobbs

Here's a copy of the D2v files from DoItFast4U and from DVD RB

--------------------------------------------------------------

*DVD RB .D2V*

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

-------------------
*DoitFast4U .D2v*

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

----------------------------------------

Seems like everything is the same except for the stream type. I don't know what that means but there's a possibility that's my problem. Any ideas guys?

-redfive

[CeanD]

Didn;t realize I was using .22, upgraded to .24, same Runtime Error at the same point 3x in a row.

:shrug:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@stiffler & @jdobbs

Here's a copy of the D2v files from DoItFast4U and from DVD RB

--------------------------------------------------------------

*DVD RB .D2V*

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

-------------------
*DoitFast4U .D2v*

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

----------------------------------------

Seems like everything is the same except for the stream type. I don't know what that means but there's a possibility that's my problem. Any ideas guys?

-redfive I don't think it matters look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23788&highlight=streamtype)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by francois20001
jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work When opening DVD-RB loads the last accessed file and attempts to gather the audio information from the IFO files. That's when you get this error. I can not save it -- but I'm afraid I will immediately get inundated with people asking why I don't save the path...

[theuser86]

@paced

I tried your top_first=0 to top_first=1 thing and the same problem presists.

I changed that option for every single AVS. Prolbem is still there trying to encode the interlaced video.

[jdobbs]

All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

[wakebrder]

You da man jdobbs....:sly:

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

Not trying to rush you but what about the resizing issues?

[Elnoyle]

Every time I press the "Prepare" button (DVD-RB 0.24) for any DVD I've tried, with any settings I've tried, I get an error that says:

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

I'm surprised this hasn't yet been addressed. :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Not trying to rush you but what about the resizing issues? That's the easy one. I'll get that completed in the next version.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Elnoyle
Every time I press the "Prepare" button (DVD-RB 0.24) for any DVD I've tried, with any settings I've tried, I get an error that says:

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

I'm surprised this hasn't yet been addressed. :( Are you using v.24?

[Elnoyle]

@jdobbs: Yes, I am using v.24

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday. Good news. Can we assume this means you've figured out what the problem might be?

[brikin]

jdobbs
I get the

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

When I press the Rebuild button. I have gotten this error since some of your first releases. I am using .24 currently.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs

You know what? DIF4U labeled the video as NO PULL. Does RB perform pulldown no matter what? That might be a problem. Also, I noticed that the speed of CCE is dramatically less when launching from DIF4U (DOCCE4U) than with your app so some "filter" or setting is different. Not quite sure what just yet. I'm sorry, I really wish I knew more about CCE, AviSynth and all that goes along with it. Up until your app I just followed the Doom9 guide on the Big3 unless it had to be demuxed by VOBID, then I'd use a one click app.

-redfive

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

Thanks God its friday!!! ;-) DVD-RB without the runtime 9 error and some beer makes this day the perfekct end of this week. Atleast some of us is worth it. Cheers jdobbs!


PS. Darn how silent this place was this morning. But then, some of you guys might be needing some sleep I imagine. DS

[walkistalki]

@redfive

do you mean that the speed is slower when using dvd-rb?
then i have the same issue: 1.9 with docce and 1.5 with dvd-rb
didn't see any interlace scripts in the avs though

[JvD]

Me too has notices the slower speed compared to running CCE in other cases (with no deinterlace command). Its really not a problem, its like 1.6 instead of 1.8. But it WOULD be interesting ig someone could explain it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@jdobbs

You know what? DIF4U labeled the video as NO PULL. Does RB perform pulldown no matter what? That might be a problem. Also, I noticed that the speed of CCE is dramatically less when launching from DIF4U (DOCCE4U) than with your app so some "filter" or setting is different. Not quite sure what just yet. I'm sorry, I really wish I knew more about CCE, AviSynth and all that goes along with it. Up until your app I just followed the Doom9 guide on the Big3 unless it had to be demuxed by VOBID, then I'd use a one click app.

-redfive You might check out the AVISYNTH file created by DIF4U. If it is slower there may be some filtering occuring (deinterlacing?).

[redfive19]

EXACTLY RIGHT!!! Here's a copy of the AVS from DIF4U

-----------------------------------------------------
DOITFAST4U AVS SCRIPT

import("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\addaudio.avs")

LoadPlugin("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\mpeg2dec3.dll")

Mpeg2Source("VTS__01_P06.I-TFF.16~9_1.d2v",idct=0)

LoadPlugin("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\decomb.dll")

FieldDeinterlace()

AddAudio()

ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
----------------------------------------------------
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:03
#------------------
mpeg2source("Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(9150,16319)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AddAudio()

----------------------------------------------------
BTW, I just checked my final product in my dvd player and I have none of the jitteriness (I am not trying to compare the Big3 to your app!!!). So it seems FieldDeinterlace and decomb filter are the only things different (I don't count trim since I did not do a CELLID demux with DIF4U). Any plans to add them in the future? I wonder if I can add them manually from now on if such a case arises again. Would that mess up the rebuilding process?

-redfive

[StifflerStealth]

@redfive19: You can add anything to the avs scripts that are valid commands. You need to be in the 3 step process, and edit them before you click the "Encode" button. I knew there had to be some type of filtering going on, and now that you know what it is, you can modify the scripts accordingly. This is one of the reasons jdobbs made it easy to modify scripts. Remember this program is in early beta phase right now. Hopefully this stuff is detected later on. Sorry for not responding sooner.

Stiff

[redfive19]

@stiff
Dude I totally understand and I completely appreciate jdobbs' work. I am very excited to see the future of this app. The only reason I posted asking if it was going to be added was because this is a bug report thread. I figure he should know that I finally figured out what the heck was wrong!!! From now on, my process will be (and I know it sounds laborious but I'd rather do it this way):

1. Let DIF4U create the avs scripts based on field type.
2. Import that info (if applicable) into DVD RB's avs scripts. (I think I can find/replace/add in multiple AVS files with UltraEdit or NoteTabPro)
3. Press encode from DVD RB.
4. Complete the rest of the process as normal.

I think this whole experience has prompted me to learn more about field order, avi synth, and CCE. I probably would have known what the problem was sooner if I had studied these things before hand!
Thanks for all your help.

-redfive

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just tested it on mine and it works correctly. If you look in the resulting .ECL file you should see a parameter that says vbr_pass=n -- n will equal the number you entered minus 1 (vaf pass plus n more). Looking at the file .INI you sent above the value should be vbr_pass=3.

I'm back. If we stop the encoding process, then make a change in the number of passes, the REBUILDER.ECL doesn't get updated.

It only remembers the number of passes defined when the prepare process started.

[StifflerStealth]

@redfive19: Glad you found the picure quality your looking for. I agree with you on the fact that DVD-RB is an amazing piece of software. Hmmm, wait, scratch that! It's a _tool_, not some _piece_ of software. :-D

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
I'm back. If we stop the encoding process, then make a change in the number of passes, the REBUILDER.ECL doesn't get updated.

It only remembers the number of passes defined when the prepare process started. I see. I create the .ECL file as a part of the PREPARE. So you're correct, changing the value only affects anything that has not yet been prepared.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
@redfive19: Glad you found the picure quality your looking for. I agree with you on the fact that DVD-RB is an amazing piece of software. Hmmm, wait, scratch that! It's a _tool_, not some _piece_ of software. :-D

Stiff I think that unless I get a couple of these bugs out it's going to be called a "piece of" something else completely.

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think that unless I get a couple of these bugs out it's going to be called a "piece of" something else completely.

Are you kidding or joking? It's hard to tell when ppl are when using text. Anyways, it's great with or without bugs.

Stiff

[MeridiusUK]

how do you know if the film is interlaced or no interlaced ????

[redfive19]

@Meridius

I tell with the app Bitrate Viewer. It comes up with all the info. I am sure there are other ways to tell. I know DoItFast4U has some command line app that scans the m2v file and determines the field order.

@jdobbs
bro, you're being way to hard on yourself (that is, if you are serious) I hope you've not taken anything I've said as an insult! I already told you, once this app gets worked out, I'd be willing to pay for it and I am sure others would too (although I don't know if you have plans to turn it to shareware). I think that's a huge compliment. Also, let me reiterate (sp?), this app worked on a DVD that according to DIF4U did not need vobID demuxing but must have anyway. You're app was the only way I was able to back it up with CCE. And it's an expensive set of dvd's I bought (Total Training for Adobe After Effects 6 - 13 DVD set! $450). Just with that, it's worth it's price. That's a huge investment and your app let me ensure that I don't have to purchase it again. Just my two cents!

-redfive

[robw]

just want to report that I did a batch process of 4 DVDs. I also turned on WinOFF so when the process was finished (20 hours later, whew!) my machine shut down.

These were very full DVDs of episodic material. I set up the ISO ripped files with Daemon's Tools virtual disk. After DVD-RB (3 passes since the original material was ~7.5 GB) finished, I took the output and ran it through DVDStripper to remove a small nag screen (the usual) and also to let it recreate the navigational stuff. The final DVD size was within 40-50 MB of full (i.e. around 4434 to 4444 MB). Video quality looks great.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by redfive19
@Meridius

I tell with the app Bitrate Viewer.



Be careful! Bitrate viewer tells you the information written in the vob file witch is not always true. In Europe there are many dvds that declare themselves as interlaced (and so bitrate viewer tells you so) but they are not. Some examples are The lord of the rings the fellowship of the ring (Extended) and Pirates of the carribean.
Just in case you didn't know.
Ciao

[daxab]

I just tested it on mine and it works correctly. If you look in the resulting .ECL file you should see a parameter that says vbr_pass=n -- n will equal the number you entered minus 1 (vaf pass plus n more). Looking at the file .INI you sent above the value should be vbr_pass=3.Is this correct for 2.6x?

If I set the VBR passes option in the GUI to n, the .ECL file contains vbr_pass=(n-1), and CCE actually does n-1 passes.

So to get 3 passes, I have to set the number of passes to 4 in the GUI.

[psdos]

can someone say me what is VBR_bias adjust?

[robw]

Ideally you would set the vbr_bias according to the bitrate that is being encoded. As an illustration, although I have not confirmed these numbers, is that for a bitrate of 4000 kbit/s you might use a vbr_bias of 40, for a bitrate of 3000 kbit/s you might use a vbr_bias of 30, etc. Trilight has compiled a nice page outlining how the bias can be chosen.

http://www.trilight.com/dvdguides/flowchartguide/BiasAnalysis.htm

[wmansir]

Originally posted by psdos
can someone say me what is VBR_bias adjust?

VBR_bias governs the amount of variation CCE gives the bitrate between different parts of the movie. A high number means there will be little fluctuation in the bitrate, so action scenes may not be able to get all the bits they need to look good. A lower number means CCE will give more bits to scenes that require them, possibly at the expense of slower scenes.

[MeridiusUK]

so when you select the interlaced and non interlaced option how do you know then what you are picking.

as i have R2 dvds alot so will it make any diffrence to the film if this options is wroung

and if so why can dvd rebuilder not auto scan the film and then select it on its own ????

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by MeridiusUK
so when you select the interlaced and non interlaced option how do you know then what you are picking.

The best way to know if a mpeg2 file is interlaced or progressive is to open it into virtualdubmod, move the bar in a scene - change frame and look at it. If you don't know how to recognize an interlaced video frame this (http://mp3dom.altervista.org/guide/interprog/download/interprog.rar) can be helpful for you.

as i have R2 dvds alot so will it make any diffrence to the film if this options is wroung

The difference is really visible when you try to deinterlace a progressive file. In this case you will see visible encoding errors (strangely coloured blocks). If you encode a progressive video with interlaced settings but without deinterlacing it, you will not notice big differences.

and if so why can dvd rebuilder not auto scan the film and then select it on its own ????

I don't know

Bye

[robw]

This is a very good page on interlacing.

When is it harmful to deinterlace? When is it better to leave a picture interlaced?

http://www.100fps.com/video_resolution_vs_fluidity.htm

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by robw
This is a very good page on interlacing.

When is it harmful to deinterlace? When is it better to leave a picture interlaced?

http://www.100fps.com/video_resolution_vs_fluidity.htm

Very interesting link. :thanks: robw.:D
Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by MeridiusUK
how do you know if the film is interlaced or no interlaced ???? It's flagged one way or the other within the MPEG stream

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
VBR_bias governs the amount of variation CCE gives the bitrate between different parts of the movie. A high number means there will be little fluctuation in the bitrate, so action scenes may not be able to get all the bits they need to look good. A lower number means CCE will give more bits to scenes that require them, possibly at the expense of slower scenes. You're right here. Here is a quote from the CCE manual:

"Breaking into bit allocation strategy The encoder allocates bits based on the original evaluation standard, so that all images have the same visual quality. Changing the value of the Bias part breaks into this evaluation standard. 0 to 100 can be set here. The initial value is 30. As the value becomes smaller, more bits are allocated to complicated scenes, and at value 0, the bitrate fluctuation is largest. As this value becomes larger, more bits are allocated to simple scenes, and at value 100, streams closer to CBR are output."

I like to set the value between 10 and 15. Then more bits can be allocated to the scenes that are most likely to get blocky (high action).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
Are you kidding or joking? It's hard to tell when ppl are when using text. Anyways, it's great with or without bugs.

Stiff I'm never serious about anything... :D

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It's flagged one way or the other within the MPEG stream

Again what is written in the mpeg stream is not always true. At least for R2 pal DVDs! Please Jdobbs read my post in this thread at page 16 where I quoted a single line of a Meridius message about bitrate viewer. I think it can be helpful for your development. If you just read the mpeg stream information and set avisynth avs and cce conseuently, here in Italy (but I think also in other countries) we will have to change both avs and ecl by hand.
Bye

[wakebrder]

Wakebrder sees..............

*Jdobbs hard @ work*

*wakebrder hands Jdobbs a beer*

Donation is on the horizon.

Thanks

[Observer]

Most (95%) PAL movies are progressive (but often tagged as interlaced).

An easy way to manually check if a movie is interlaced or progressive is to open a VOB or M2V file in DVD2avi. Step through some part of the movie where there is motion. An interlaced movie will show horizontal lines around the moving object. You can not trust tools such as Bitrate Viewer when checking if a movie is interlaced.

For more information, please check the CCE faq in the doom9 forums.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by daxab
Is this correct for 2.6x?

If I set the VBR passes option in the GUI to n, the .ECL file contains vbr_pass=(n-1), and CCE actually does n-1 passes.

So to get 3 passes, I have to set the number of passes to 4 in the GUI. Yes it is correct for all versions of CCE except Basic (it will only do two passes). The source of the confusion is that CCE doesn't count the .VAF creation as pass 1. But it is.

Try this: Create a small file containing just a 1000 frames. Then set the parameters in CCE to 3 passes. Now run it and watch what happens. You will see a .VAF run of 1000 frames followed by 3 additional runs of 1000 each -- or 4 passes. If you are using v2.50 you will see a single .VAF run followed by a pass that appears to be 3000 frames (again, 3 additional passes).

The bottom line is: the VAF pass is a pass. It takes the time of a pass and serves the purpose of a pass -- so I'm calling it a pass. Setting the ECL value to 3 takes four times as long as single pass VBR (setting Q). The last thing I want is for people who don't understand the realities of VBR to waste hours doing passes that don't really provide significant improvement. So my program is setting the value to the number that TRULY represents what is happening.

But for those that are adamant about it -- you can always set the value in DVD-RB to one higher than reality.

[Forko]

first of all thanks for the hard work!

the problem i am having is after it scans the vts's in the beginning it then trys to load the .ecl file into cce. cce then gets a avifileopen error. i noticed that when i try to load the ecl by hand i get the same error, but it i cange the file extension to lowercase it then loads it fine.

BTW i am running winxp pro and cce 2.50

thanks

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Forko
first of all thanks for the hard work!

the problem i am having is after it scans the vts's in the beginning it then trys to load the .ecl file into cce. cce then gets a avifileopen error. i noticed that when i try to load the ecl by hand i get the same error, but it i cange the file extension to lowercase it then loads it fine.

BTW i am running winxp pro and cce 2.50

thanks Yeah, contrary to what some say there is still a bug associated with CCE 2.50 and audio. Under the avs options turn the ResampleAudio(44100) flag on, redo the Prepare, and it will likely work.

[Forko]

im sorry, where do i change that?

[jdobbs]

All,

Attached is v0.25 -- I didn't get everything in that I wanted, but I figured I'd post this version as it has been a couple days since I've posted. The changes are outlined below:

- Fixed the output sizing problem that was introduced in v0.22 -- DVD-RB should now fully size CCE output to take advantage of an entire DVD-R(W) disc.

- Added code to SETUP dialog that enables you to add the path to the MPEG2DEC.DLL file. I started to see errors related to load failures over-and-over -- if you set this and check the corresponding flag, the LoadPlugin() command is added as the first line to every .AVS file.

- Set a new default .VOB filesize (to match some other applications)

- Added code that disables entering either of the second two processes (ENCODE or REBUILD) unless the previous necessary processes (PREPARE or ENCODE) have been completed. I found that some folks were trying to skip steps and as a result were getting strange errors.

I'm still working on the pixelation/chapter stuttering that some are experiencing -- hard to do for me cause I'm having problems reproducing it. I'm still working and will post again soon...

ATTACHMENT REMOVED AFTER 2293 DOWNLOADS.

A newer attachment (v0.26) is available.

Click here to download (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=466021)

[Forko]

duh, i see...

it is already checked off though

thanks

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

Attached is v0.25 -- I didn't get everything in that I wanted, but I figured I'd post this version as it has been a couple days since I've posted. [ ...CUT ]

Ciao jdobbs,
it's unclear to me if this version fixes the navpacks (chapters skipping) problem fixed by postprocessing with ifoedit.
Thanks, ciao

[Forko]

tested it with the new version and the menu item is checked off and it still wont work.

[JvD]

Do any of these fixes solve the runtime error 9?

[robot1]

I was looking at the working directory.
Does DV-RB create .avs and .ecl even in ReJig mode?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robot1
I was looking at the working directory.
Does DV-RB create .avs and .ecl even in ReJig mode? Yes. I had to do the pass anyway, so I thought I'd create them either way. I personally like to use them for reference when I'm doing advanced features. I could turn them off they are annoying...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Ciao jdobbs,
it's unclear to me if this version fixes the navpacks (chapters skipping) problem fixed by postprocessing with ifoedit.
Thanks, ciao That has turned into quite the project. It's the main reason no release has come out in 2 days.

[robw]

jdobbs
Thanks for all your hard work. Every two days for an update is unreasonable. Take a break!

[robot1]

Originally posted by JvD
Do any of these fixes solve the runtime error 9?

I've got for the first time the runtime error 9:
the source is an .iso mounted with daemon tools.
I had other backups ripping in filemode with no problem.

Do you rip in iso, or in file mode?

[KungFuCow]

I think there has been some talk about problems with Daemon Tools. You might want to try Alcohol 120% and see if that helps.

[robot1]

I normally rip in filemode, so, no problem. As Jdobbs can't repeat the runtime error, I was guessing.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robot1
I normally rip in filemode, so, no problem. As Jdobbs can't repeat the runtime error, I was guessing. I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode?

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode?

Mainly ppl coming over from the "Big 3" method use the source as an iso to ensure that no changes are ever made to the source. Using the "Big 3" method can generate a lot of files, and it can be easy to overwrite an orginal file.

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Ciao jdobbs,
it's unclear to me if this version fixes the navpacks (chapters skipping) problem fixed by postprocessing with ifoedit.
Thanks, ciao I need help with this problem. Since I can't repeat it I have to rely on what the folks experiencing it can tell me. The big issue now is that I can run it through IFOEdit -- and compare the values to the original or I can run it through DVD Shrink nad compare it to the original -- but even IFOEdit and DVD-Shrinks output files don't match... so who (if any) are at fault (especially on the "first audio packet" offsets -- which seem to be the only differences I can find. Could you please tell me:

1. Does it happen on NTSC, PAL, or both?
2. If you run it through IFOEdit VOB Extras:
2a. Does is fix it if you don't check the "Correct Original IFOs"? If so, what happens if it isn't checked?
2b. Are any of the "VOB EXPERT OPTIONS" checked? What happens if you don't check them?

Your help would be appreciated.

[flaystus]

edit: oops moved suggestion to correct thread.

[KungFuCow]

Just finished Lost In Translation again. Sizing issues look to have been resolved.

Im running it through IFOedit now and about to burn it. Ill report back shortly.

[KungFuCow]

Off and burning. This DVD was corrected using ONLY the Correct Nav Packs option. All advanced options were unchecked as was Correct Original IFOs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Off and burning. This DVD was corrected using ONLY the Correct Nav Packs option. All advanced options were unchecked as was Correct Original IFOs. It was skipping/pixelating before you ran it through IFOEdit and then worked fine after? This is important!

[KungFuCow]

With above option ONLY checked, stuttering on chapter changing is still there. Ill run it through next with Correct Original Files enabled with no advanced options and reburn

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
With above option ONLY checked, stuttering on chapter changing is still there. Ill run it through next with Correct Original Files enabled with no advanced options and reburn Thanks, I appreciate it. Can you try it with just "Correct VOB-Unit (NAVPACK.." and with "Adjust VOB-Unit pointer" and "Adjust Audio/Subp" checked in the VOB EXPERT area? I'm trying to see if the IFO has anything to do with the problem at all...

[KungFuCow]

I actually had it all ran through IFOEdit with Correct Original IFOs and NAV Packs only checked so I went ahead and burned it. Chapter issues and other wierdness still there. Im going to run it through now with the settings you wanted and reburn.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
I actually had it all ran through IFOEdit with Correct Original IFOs and NAV Packs only checked so I went ahead and burned it. Chapter issues and other wierdness still there. Im going to run it through now with the settings you wanted and reburn. Thanks. If that fixes the problems, I might have this fixed tomorrow.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode? Hi,

The advantage is to have an ISO file instead to have a bunch of files. It's all. And ah yes, I often use ISO mode because in the case I would use DVDStripper to strip something later, I always can mount my ISO file. It's too bad that DVDStripper can't handle DVD's ripped in mode file. :( It's because it has to rip the DVD itself by cell-id.

[djan]

Originally posted by robot1
I've got for the first time the runtime error 9:
the source is an .iso mounted with daemon tools.
I had other backups ripping in filemode with no problem.

Do you rip in iso, or in file mode? Don't make it this way or try Alcohol. Try your movie in file mode. I was getting the error '9' when I was mounting my ISO's. Since I stopped making it this way, I no more got this error.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks. If that fixes the problems, I might have this fixed tomorrow.

After running Lost In Translation through IFOEdit using the paramters you asked me to use, I can happily report I now have a 100% fully functional CCE backup of this movie that is not undersized and does not have any FFWD/RWD issues, chapter skipping issues or any sort of blockiness/skipping on channel transitions.

[Paced]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
After running Lost In Translation through IFOEdit using the paramters you asked me to use, I can happily report I now have a 100% fully functional CCE backup of this movie that is not undersized and does not have any FFWD/RWD issues, chapter skipping issues or any sort of blockiness/skipping on channel transitions.

Good to hear :cool:

[robot1]

Originally posted by djan
Don't make it this way or try Alcohol. Try your movie in file mode. I was getting the error '9' when I was mounting my ISO's. Since I stopped making it this way, I no more got this error.
I do rip always in filemode. I was just trying to find why many pepole get the error '9'.
I've copied all the files in a dir, and now I'm launching the third phase of rebuild again. If it works, I can surely think that error '9' is related to the use of an image.

[JvD]

Not so robot1! I neever use images with this apps AND I get this message on some movies. So if you lookinf for the problem, look somewhere else. Jdobbs allready know the source of the problem.
"I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon." (Jdobbs, page 9 i think)

[robot1]

Ok, I thought Jdobbs fixed the still issue, and I didn't notice any still in the film I'm backing up.

[robot1]

I can confirm it's not related to the use of a mounted image. With the same film, I get the same error in filemode.

[Beer-chan]

I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message

AVIFileOpen("F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL") : According to the registry, the type of file specified in AVIFileOpen does not have a handler to process it.


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw.

[P3gasus]

@robot1 and @JvD

Were the file you were ripping in file mode set as read-only? If so, try to change this setting. I know that dvd-rb does not modify vob files and so the problem should not be this one but in my opinion it's worth a try.

Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw. I did the same thing and got this error message -- I went back to eclCCE v.17b and it went away.

[robot1]

Originally posted by P3gasus
@robot1 and @JvD

Were the file you were ripping in file mode set as read-only? If so, try to change this setting. I know that dvd-rb does not modify vob files and so the problem should not be this one but in my opinion it's worth a try.

Bye

I get error 9 also with non write-protected files.

[GreatDane]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.25
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:
"Runtime 9".
Like many other I get the Runtime 9 error when VOB contains still. I've tested with mounted images, and with unprotected files in a folder.

I think that the author is doing a great job here, and I'm looking forward to the fix of this error, since it in many movies is a showstopper.

[chadp1a]

@jdobbs

Have you come up with a solution yet on the pixelation problems some are having?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs

Have you come up with a solution yet on the pixelation problems some are having? If the info I got from KungFuCow is accurate I may be able to complete it today. I'll have to post before knowing, however, because I haven't been able to repeat the problem myself.

[quantum]

If there's something I can do to reproduce KungFuCow's steps or anything else that will help with debugging, let me know. I have an encoded disk and plenty of dvd-rw's and I have the pixelation problem on my Pioneer standalone. You can also email me for quicker response if debugging.

[RB]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw.
Doh. I obviously screwed something up. Let me check.

[Oldeman]

I have used DVD-RB with ReJig from version .15 until .25. I just got my first subscript out of range during rebuild using version .25.

Windows 98SE, AMD 750, 256Mb ram. Movie Runaway Jury.
I think I 'll go back and try it on .24.

Great program....Makes it easy...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
If there's something I can do to reproduce KungFuCow's steps or anything else that will help with debugging, let me know. I have an encoded disk and plenty of dvd-rw's and I have the pixelation problem on my Pioneer standalone. You can also email me for quicker response if debugging. I found it. After several days of looking and scratching my head it turned out to be pretty simple. Frankly, from what I saw I'm surprised more people weren't experiencing this (including me)...

I should be posting v0.26 right after a little more testing.

[quantum]

Let me be the first to say, great news :)

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Can you try it with just "Correct VOB-Unit (NAVPACK.." and with "Adjust VOB-Unit pointer" and "Adjust Audio/Subp" checked in the VOB EXPERT area? [...CUT]

@jdobbs
Sorry to be late in testing the above, i see that you already found the error ( great new ! ) so i can only confirm that the steps you asked us to perform with IFOEDIT really solve the skipping and navigation problems. Waiting 0.26 ! :D
What is the status of the other major problems left : stills, multi PGC, multiangle and seameless branch support?
Do you think we are close to v.1? :)

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I found it. After several days of looking and scratching my head it turned out to be pretty simple. Frankly, from what I saw I'm surprised more people weren't experiencing this (including me)...

I should be posting v0.26 right after a little more testing.

Very happy to hear that.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs
Sorry to be late in testing the above, i see that you already found the error ( great new ! ) so i can only confirm that the steps you asked us to perform with IFOEDIT really solve the skipping and navigation problems. Waiting 0.26 ! :D
What is the status of the other major problems left : stills, multi PGC, multiangle and seameless branch support?
Do you think we are close to v.1? :) Muli-PGCs work now, stills are in the near future, multiangle and seamless branching are probably a week out.

[chilliman]

I got No CCE path has been set message when i press encode button. i use DVD Rebuilder v0.25, EclCCE v1.7b with CCE v2.50 and CCE v2.67.00.23. anyone have got error ?

[DirtyAbdul]

Originally posted by chilliman
I got No CCE path has been set message when i press encode button. i use DVD Rebuilder v0.25, EclCCE v1.7b with CCE v2.50 and CCE v2.67.00.23. anyone have got error ?

chilliman, did you already "setup" rebuilder? menu "options/setup" -> that's where you tell RB where cce is located ;) . if you are working with eclcce, you need to point to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable (this is actually explained a few pages ago, i think).

DA

[chilliman]

Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
chilliman, did you already "setup" rebuilder? menu "options/setup" -> that's where you tell RB where cce is located ;) . if you are working with eclcce, you need to point to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable (this is actually explained a few pages ago, i think).

DA

I have already point RB to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable, but i still get No CCE path has been set message :mad:

[robot1]

Does eclcce works alone? (not in DVD-RB)

[jdobbs]

All,

Linked below is the latest update to DVD Rebuilder (v0.26) -- this one has some important fixes and enhancements included... so bug reports on any earlier versions will go unheeded. A summary of changes is provided below:

- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. This fix may also correct other problems that may not have been as apparent related to chapter points and navigation. Much thanks to the beta testers for pointing me in the right direction on this one.

- The bitrate calculating algorithm can now examine the original allocation by Cell and assign bitrates to each cell consistent with that of the original DVD. This essentially uses the original DVD as a "first pass" and gives more bandwidth to cells that need it. This could (theoretically) result in better quality. This "dynamic" bitrate allocation can be enabled by selecting "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" from the "Modes" menu.

- Added a flag accessible through SETUP that lets you force encoders to be run in a minimized, no-focus state. This may-or-may-not work (depending upon versions) when using eclCCE as an interface with CCE.

- Fixed an issue in which a NAVPACK reference frame could be off by one when the next PICTURE_START_CODE begins on a sector boundary. Not sure what impact it might have, but I noted it when investigating the pixelation/jumping problem that some have said they experience.

- Fixed an overflow problem that is the source of at least some of runtime error '9's that have been received during the REBUILD phase of DVD-RB. Not the only one, though.

- Made a few other minor changes for efficiency.


Click here to download. (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=466021)

[kadilak]

First of all, thank you jdobbs for putting in so much work on DVD-RB. This utility is the best thing I've ever seen and I'll be donating shortly.

Version 0.26 seems to fix every problem I was having, but I do have a quick question for you.

When DVD-RB calls CCE, if I take a look at task manager on my machine, DVD-RB is using about 25% of the processor, while CCE is using the other 75%. Is this normal? I would think (and I'm probably wrong), that DVD-RB is just waiting for CCE to finish executing, so it really shouldn't be using any CPU, should it? Unless it's doing something in the background.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work.

[P3gasus]

I selected to add the line about mpeg2dec in avs file pointing dvd-rb to the correct file (MPEG2Dec3dg.dll). But it will not add that line to the avs files, causing avs script not to work (unknown function mpeg2source). I think that this is a small bug.
Thanks jdobs for your hard work

EDIT: Obviously that anomalous behaviour was found using beta 0.26.

[Beer-chan]

Did you read DVD-RB's Readme file?

3. Next, you must have a copy of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL installed on your computer.
At the Doom9 site, download DVD2AVI dg. It (at this writing) is contained in a
ZIP file DECODEFIX100.ZIP. Open that zip and within you will find a file called
MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. Copy that file into a directory called "PlugIns" under the
AVISYNTH directory (created in step 1). Putting it there could save you lots
of possible headaches later!

[P3gasus]

I didn't read this because I thought that if you chose to add the mpeg2dec line in avs file you will not have to work about it. Maybe it's me, but I think it's a small bug because the avs line it's not in the avs file although you tell the program you want it there.
Anyway thank you for pointing me this passage of the manual.
Bye

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. The moment we've all been waiting for.. is it really fixed? I just rebuilt and burned a disk I already had encoded. I plopped the disk it in my Pioneer. Pressed the next chapter button, and... waited... and there was no pixelation or stuttering. Nice work jdobbs. You can put this one behind you. I noticed the RW and FW seemed much more responsive and accurate. I didn't realize before there were problems with it until I saw how it should work (on this movie).

[KungFuCow]

There was also major problems with chapter skipping as well. Fortunately the movie Ive been using for testing has some sequences that makes all this wierdness show up. Im re-encoding it now and gonna make sure all of its gone in this version.

[quantum]

What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by quantum
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter.

Yes, no more pixelation problems.:)

I did notice that same chapter jump thing also.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kadilak
First of all, thank you jdobbs for putting in so much work on DVD-RB. This utility is the best thing I've ever seen and I'll be donating shortly.

Version 0.26 seems to fix every problem I was having, but I do have a quick question for you.

When DVD-RB calls CCE, if I take a look at task manager on my machine, DVD-RB is using about 25% of the processor, while CCE is using the other 75%. Is this normal? I would think (and I'm probably wrong), that DVD-RB is just waiting for CCE to finish executing, so it really shouldn't be using any CPU, should it? Unless it's doing something in the background.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work. Hmm.. that's a little unexpected, but would explain why some folks have reported CCE speeds that are a little low... I'll definitely look at that. All I really do is check for the CCE process to end.

[jdobbs]

@Kadilak,

I just ran a couple of tests, and on my system CCE is getting 99% of the processor...

jdobbs

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter. Chapter jump? Hmmm... just when I thought I was done with that part. It will have to wait until I clean up the remaining runtime '9' problems -- which, by the way, was more than just stills. I just found the code that may be responsible.

[robw]

I agree, my system is running CCE at 98-99% CPU usage

version 0.26 is looking good here. One small issue. When I set up a batch process by first setting up a project including deselecting some audio streams I don't want (e.g. 2 Channel, director comments, etc.) and then later open the project, the audio streams are again selected. It looks like the audio stream info is not getting saved with the project.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
I agree, my system is running CCE at 98-99% CPU usage

version 0.26 is looking good here. One small issue. When I set up a batch process by first setting up a project including deselecting some audio streams I don't want (e.g. 2 Channel, director comments, etc.) and then later open the project, the audio streams are again selected. It looks like the audio stream info is not getting saved with the project. Uh oh. I knew there was something I'd forgotten to do when I released the batch code. Now I remember what it was.

[Beer-chan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmm.. that's a little unexpected, but would explain why some folks have reported CCE speeds that are a little low... I'll definitely look at that. All I really do is check for the CCE process to end.
If the checking is in a loop that doesn't stop until the process ends, make sure the loop sleeps for a few milliseconds before checking the process again.

[nwg]

Jdobbs you have done a excellent job with this software.

I have dying to tell you what I think for the last few days. I have been use DVD RB since the first version. It took a couple of days to get it working properly but that was part of the fun with betas.

What are Stills? Are these photo galleries. The reason I ask, is I have managed to do Back to the Future which has photos with Rejig and CCE. However, it fails during building process after encoding with QuEnc (runtime error 5). The encoding is done successfully.

I have completed other DVD's successfully with QuEnc.

Well done.

[jdobbs]

@nwg,

Yep, photo galleries are a perfect example. Each still is an individual I frame. But more importantly for my program, it can be displayed for a long time with no additional video... that's what DVD-RB is having trouble with. I just need to fix it.

[nwg]

Thanks for the reply.

How can Rejig and CCE handle it on my setup then? It was the R2 version of the DVD.

[jdobbs]

Rejig doesn't surprise me, because it just transcodes. It worked with CCE?

[KungFuCow]

Interesting.. I just got a Run Time 9 error on Lost In Translation.. first time that's ever happened.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@Kadilak,

I just ran a couple of tests, and on my system CCE is getting 99% of the processor...

jdobbs

Are you running an AMD or Intel Processor? I'm running a P4. Mabye it has something to do with hyper-threading?

[CiViC]

i tried working on The Lion King and Star Wars Episode 1 today, but both times CCESP 2.67 crashed when it tried encoding a 1 frame file... :(

*EDIT* I just read that DVD-RB can't handle these kinds of things just yet..sorry about the post then, i've been away from this kind of stuff for a while now, and just kind of stumbled upon this apparently amazing piece of software. It seems that I can finally backup my Alias Season 2 discs which were troublesome via the "big 3" method :)

[KungFuCow]

Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :( I may have a fix for that... I'm testing now.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :( Wait a minute. I blocked out the error I'm fixing in .26 -- it would have given an announcement before aborting... What error are you getting, '9'?

[KungFuCow]

Yes

[jdobbs]

Is it during PREPARE, ENCODE, or REBUILD?

[Oldeman]

I am getting error "9" during rebuild on .26 beta on two diffferent movies. One in second cell on Runaway Jury. One much later (vob7 or 8)in Seabiscuit. ReJig one button.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is it during PREPARE, ENCODE, or REBUILD?

During Rebuild

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

Did you take out the option for "TargetSectors="?

I was trying that and did change my final size. I just wanted to try to fill the 125mb I have left in space a little more.

[nwg]

Rejig doesn't surprise me, because it just transcodes. It worked with CCE?


Yes. It was 2.50.

[Acerjen]

I have a question concerning the encoding process. After encoding, I notice a jump in the picture. I am calling it a jump, but I am not sure what it is. A split second hitch. I ran the original video through DVD2AVI and noticed that every time it did this was when the video changed from progressive to interlaced, which it down just for a split second. I hope I am explaining it well enough to give you all and ideal of what I am seeing. Anybody have any ideal what is going on? My main question is what are the proper settings for a video that have both Progressive and Interlaced frames? As well as Film and NTST frames? I am still new at this and still learning. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. In case it matters, the video is Stargate SG-1, disc 4. The overall rebuild process is fine, everything goes back together ok, no errors. I just noticed the video irregularites and thought I would ask. Thanks. Later.


Acerjen

P.S. Jdobbs, thanks for an excellent program and all the hard work and time you have put into it. A donation will arrive come my next payday. Thanks. Later.

[unplugged]

"Path to MPEG2Dec, Add to AVS" option doesn't seem to be respected at script creation time (ver. 0.25), I see no line with "LoadPlugin".

[kylan]

I get a buffer overflow error #4 (i believe it said) about 35% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later." This has been an ongoing error since version .17, I just haven't been able to post.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by unplugged
"Path to MPEG2Dec, Add to AVS" option doesn't seem to be respected at script creation time (ver. 0.25), I see no line with "LoadPlugin".

0.26 has this problem too. mpeg2dec line is not added to the avs script even if you ask dvd-rb to do that and you select the correct dll location.
Maybe next beta will fix this issue.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Acerjen
I have a question concerning the encoding process. After encoding, I notice a jump in the picture. I am calling it a jump, but I am not sure what it is. A split second hitch. I ran the original video through DVD2AVI and noticed that every time it did this was when the video changed from progressive to interlaced, which it down just for a split second. I hope I am explaining it well enough to give you all and ideal of what I am seeing. Anybody have any ideal what is going on? My main question is what are the proper settings for a video that have both Progressive and Interlaced frames? As well as Film and NTST frames? I am still new at this and still learning. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. In case it matters, the video is Stargate SG-1, disc 4. The overall rebuild process is fine, everything goes back together ok, no errors. I just noticed the video irregularites and thought I would ask. Thanks. Later.


Acerjen

P.S. Jdobbs, thanks for an excellent program and all the hard work and time you have put into it. A donation will arrive come my next payday. Thanks. Later. Are you saying the original source had the glitch and it carried through -- or that the output has the glitch. If it is the output it is likely a pulldown bug of somekind.

DVD-RB matches the source as much as is possible at the cell level. The threshold value in SETUP helps in the decision as to what point DVD-RB decides that the source is straight or pulldown.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kylan
I get a buffer overflow error #4 (i believe it said) about 35% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later." This has been an ongoing error since version .17, I just haven't been able to post. I'm actively working this. This used to be a '9' error. I inserted that "0004" code to see if this was the offending area -- glad you observed it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
@jdobbs

Did you take out the option for "TargetSectors="?

I was trying that and did change my final size. I just wanted to try to fill the 125mb I have left in space a little more. No, it should still be in. But remember, the output will not be exactly what you enter -- not all encoders will give you exactly the size predicted by bitrate.

[mikegun]

hi,

how do I have to calculate sectors/mb ?

regards,

mikegun

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by mikegun
hi,

how do I have to calculate sectors/mb ?

regards,

mikegun Each DVD sector is 2KBytes.

[Forko]

i just did show girls (the movie)but it only came out to 1.2 gig. its like it did everything but the main movie? i tryied it again but got the same results.


thanks

[Beer-chan]

I got this error at the start of the Rebuild phase (build 0.26 beta)

Run-time error '75':

Path/File access error

DVD-RB managed to create the VIDEO_TS directory inside the working path and create 4 files, VIDEO_TS.BUP/IFO and VTS_01_0.BUP/IFO, of filesizes 6KB and 64KB, respectively. I have enough diskspace for Rebuild to finish.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Forko
i just did show girls (the movie)but it only came out to 1.2 gig. its like it did everything but the main movie? i tryied it again but got the same results.


thanks That means it probably did nothing. The 1.2 gig probably represents files that DVD-RB decided to copy as-is... go into the D2VAVS directory and open on of the .AVS files with media player and see if there is some configuration problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I got this error at the start of the Rebuild phase (build 0.26 beta)


DVD-RB managed to create the VIDEO_TS directory inside the working path and create 4 files, VIDEO_TS.BUP/IFO and VTS_01_0.BUP/IFO, of filesizes 6KB and 64KB, respectively. I have enough diskspace for Rebuild to finish. Could you post the path?

[nwg]

I just tried the 'dynamic cell bitrate' thing again and this time the output was only 3.89GB (QuEnc). I am doing the same DVD with the option switched off.

I was getting output of 4.33GB with 025.

[Beer-chan]

Sure. The working path is "F:\TEMP\".

[Beer-chan]

Originally posted by nwg
I just tried the 'dynamic cell bitrate' thing again and this time the output was only 3.89GB (QuEnc).
I added up all the .m2v files in the D2VAVS directory and also got 3.89GB with that setting enabled.

[redfive19]

are you sure your menu files and other vobs you left untouched aren't enough to make it 4.36 gb? are you adding this to your 3.89gb value? I've tried the dynamic cell bitrate thing last night and it worked perfect on Y Tu Tambien.

-redfive

[Beer-chan]

Originally posted by redfive19
are you sure your menu files and other vobs you left untouched aren't enough to make it 4.36 gb? are you adding this to your 3.89gb value? I've tried the dynamic cell bitrate thing last night and it worked perfect on Y Tu Tambien.
I was encoding a backup with no menus; just the movie, one audio stream, and all subtitles.

jdobbs, I forgot to mention this info with regards to my run-time error '75' problem.

[RB]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message

AVIFileOpen("F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL") :
According to the registry, the type of file specified
in AVIFileOpen does not have a handler to process it.

... I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it...

Originally posted by jdobbs
I did the same thing and got this error message -- I went back to eclCCE v.17b and it went away.

@jdobbs:
Confirmed that this happens with EclCCE 1.8. However, it's actually a problem with CCE-SP 2.50 and the ECLs you are generating. Try a drag'n drop of one of the Rebuilder 'ITEM.ECL' files into CCE-SP 2.50 (not using EclCCE) and you'll get the exact same error message. Strangely enough, it will happily load the ECL through the Load Project menu/toolbar options. Note ECL files saved from CCE-SP 2.50 can be dragged into CCE just fine.

The difference in EclCCE 1.8 now is that it simulates drag'n drop to load the ECL whereas earlier versions simulated the File - Open... menu command and then automated the Open File dialog. I'm a bit reluctant to take that out again because it's a lot cleaner and less error prone than the previous approach. Just save an ECL from CCE-SP 2.50 and compare. It looks like the order of the options in the ECL (which is vastly different in your ECL files) is important for drag'n drop ECL loading. Sorry for the confusion.

[nwg]

I added up all the .m2v files in the D2VAVS directory and also got 3.89GB with that setting enabled.


You can't go by that figure. I have had the D2VAS directory being only 3GB+ but the video_ts output came to 4GB+

I did a DVD twice. Once with 025 and came to 4.33GB and then again with dynamic cell bitrate using 026 and it came to 4.19GB.

I will have to wait a few hours to see if the 3.89GB I got before turns out more with the option switched off.

[Forko]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That means it probably did nothing. The 1.2 gig probably represents files that DVD-RB decided to copy as-is... go into the D2VAVS directory and open on of the .AVS files with media player and see if there is some configuration problem.

ok i opened the up and i get script error: there is no function named mpeg2source

or

script error: there is no function named add audio

i have the mpege dec path set and the add to avs file option checked

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Forko
ok i opened the up and i get script error: there is no function named mpeg2source

or

script error: there is no function named add audio

i have the mpege dec path set and the add to avs file option checked Does the path exist in the AVS files? If you set the path you have to then rerun the "PREPARE" phase (that's where the .AVS is created). Also, if you don't have the AddAudio() feature added to you plugin directory you may need to either uncheck it or check ResampleAudio(44100) instead (if using CCE 2.50)

[RB]

jdobbs, just noticed that the range for CCE quality_prec in Rebuilder is always 0-100. However, that's valid only for CCE-SP 2.50-2.64, CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 uses 0-64 for that option.

[Forko]

yes, it looks like they are all there

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, just noticed that the range for CCE quality_prec in Rebuilder is always 0-100. However, that's valid only for CCE-SP 2.50-2.64, CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 uses 0-64 for that option. Hmm.. that ain't good... I'll multiply the value times .64 before inserting it in one of the newer .ECLs... or put new values in the table -- whichever is easier

[quantum]

Just to show what is functional:
CCE 2.66.01.07
EclCCE 1.5a
DVDRB .26

Did Matchstick Men r1 with no errors and resulting directory was 4,649,646,080. Close enough for me.

I'm still wondering if we still have any weirdness with chapters. I see an occassional blip when RW but it's inconsistent and could be something unrelated to this process.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
Just to show what is functional:
CCE 2.66.01.07
EclCCE 1.5a
DVDRB .26

Did Matchstick Men r1 with no errors and resulting directory was 4,649,646,080. Close enough for me.

I'm still wondering if we still have any weirdness with chapters. I see an occassional blip when RW but it's inconsistent and could be something unrelated to this process. If so it would have to be related to the tables in the DSI. I might write a quick program that scans through the entire stream and looks for anomolies...

[nwg]

What is CCE quality_prec?

I read in one of the DVD RB threads about the bias number but not this one.

[CiViC]

Originally posted by CiViC
i tried working on The Lion King and Star Wars Episode 1 today, but both times CCESP 2.67 crashed when it tried encoding a 1 frame file... :(

*EDIT* I just read that DVD-RB can't handle these kinds of things just yet..sorry about the post then, i've been away from this kind of stuff for a while now, and just kind of stumbled upon this apparently amazing piece of software. It seems that I can finally backup my Alias Season 2 discs which were troublesome via the "big 3" method :)

Well my encode finished early this morning, and it wasn't really a success :( ... PowerDVD would get to the menu, but whenever i clicked play it just returned to the menu..burned to a dvdrw that worked fine in my standalone, but the places where it is interlaced (i think teh source is like 95% progressive, 5% interlaced) the video seems to stutter. I have nothing else I really need to encode at this time, so i'll just sit on the sidelines for now..

[Mad_Max_73]

runtime error 9 processing "spirited away" anime italian pal...
script out of range making d2v file of vts_1 that is only the universal logo...movie is vts_2

I've been able to process it after removing that with clone dvd2....

[Taro]

Hello,

I'm lucky (as you're :D ) to find this great tool. Thanks to JDobbs!
I use 0.24 DVD-RB (I know, there is a newer one, but I couldn't try it yet) and CCE SP 2.67.011 with eclCCE 1.7.

My problem is, when encode process starts, CCE appears, but it seems the .ECL file not to be loaded into it (the filename doesn't appear inside CCE, therefore CCE can do nothing).

1. I downloaded Hypo20's dvdrbini.zip (maybe I'm so lamer to set something incorrectly) -> result is the same, filename doesn't appear

2. I tried to open the .ECL file (was generated by RB) manually, but the result was the same -> filename doesn't appear

3. I made DVD2DVD-R to create an .ECL file, which I loaded into CCE. In this case everything gone well: filename was recognized by CCE, and CCE was set as requested.

What and where the problem is? (everyone can use CCE except me? :rolleyes: )

I discovered (and was mentioned by RB earlier), that the set-up of .ECL of RB is different from .ECL of DVD2DVD-r (or CCE).

Probably this can be my problem?
What should I do (set)?

Thanks in advance!
Taro

[nwg]

Taro

Have you tried this?

Tell eclCCE where the CCE exe file is. When you double clik on eclcce.exe for the first time it asks for the location of the CCE exe.

You then have to point DVD RB to the eclCCE file and not the CCE exe in the DVD RB setup.

Then DVD RB should load the ECL into CCE.

[RB]

Originally posted by Taro
I discovered (and was mentioned by RB earlier), that the set-up of .ECL of RB is different from .ECL of DVD2DVD-r (or CCE).

If you are using a trial version of CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 so that EclCCE is responsible for the ECL processing, that actually doesn't matter. EclCCE doesn't care about the order of the options in the ECL file, but a full CCE might care.

Can you post the contents of the ECL file you are having problems with?

[Taro]

Originally posted by nwg
Taro

Have you tried this?

Tell eclCCE where the CCE exe file is. When you double clik on eclcce.exe for the first time it asks for the location of the CCE exe.
You then have to point DVD RB to the eclCCE file and not the CCE exe in the DVD RB setup.
Then DVD RB should load the ECL into CCE.

Hi nwg!

Yes, I tried this. This was the first I set. ;)
(I gave the path of CCE for eclCCE first time and I set the path of eclCCE.exe for RB.)

But I stucked. I don't know why, but CCE wants to work only with another kind of ECL (like CCE's or DVD2DVD-R's) not the RB's one...

I'll drop my PC through the window. :mad:
(just a joke)

[Taro]

Originally posted by RB
If you are using a trial version of CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 so that EclCCE is responsible for the ECL processing, that actually doesn't matter. EclCCE doesn't care about the order of the options in the ECL file, but a full CCE might care.

Can you post the contents of the ECL file you are having problems with?

Hi RB,

Here is the ECL,which was made by DVD2DVD-R:

; CCE SP Trial Version -- Encoder Control List

[item]
title=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0.AVS
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
aud_out=0
aud_mode=0
vid_file0=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0_NEW.M2V
vid_file1=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0_NEW.M2V
vaf_file=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0_NEW.VAF
aud_file=
file_focused=0
video_type=4
timecode=0x0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
cbr_brate=5250
opv_q_factor=
opv_brate_min=
opv_brate_max=
vbr_brate_avg=5250
vbr_brate_min=1000
vbr_brate_max=6951
vbr_bias=20
vbr_pass=4
create_new_vaf=0
pulldown_detect=0
letter_box=0
panscan=0
aspect_ratio=3
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x12439
credits_brate=6951
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=0
use_filter=0
filter_val=0
dither=0
dither_max=0
quality_prec=15
intra_dc_prec=2
alternate_scan=0
non_linear=0
progressive=1
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
seq_endcode=1
dvd=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
offset_line=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
uscc=0
lum_level=0
packet_size=2048
frame_rate_idx=3
qmat_idx=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1
brate_idx=7
stereo=2
samples_per_sec=44100
crc=1
width=720
height=576

[file]
name=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0.AVS
type=0
frame_first=0
frame_last=145448
encode_first=0
encode_last=145448

Unfortunately I cannot insert the ECL of RB, because I deleted the movie in the meantime (I encoded the movie with DVD2DVD-R)...

[Taro]

Tomorrow I'll insert the content of both of ECL files (I'm currently working not on my PC ;) )

[djan]

Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, just noticed that the range for CCE quality_prec in Rebuilder is always 0-100. However, that's valid only for CCE-SP 2.50-2.64, CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 uses 0-64 for that option. Hi, what value do you use for your DVD's RB ?

[Top_Cat]

I hope someone will be able to help me.

I have a problem with Rebuilder 0.26, it wont encode. I am using CCE Trial with ECLCCE but when using METHOD TWO and press the "Encode" button CCE lauches with "ITEM.ECL" as the title, but nothing happens there are nothing in the CCE window and Rebuilder uses 100% CPU. I left it like this for 3 hours but nothing was created.

Any ideas or advice?

Thanks
Tom

[RB]

@djan:
For bitrates above 3000, I use 30 in CCE-SP 2.67. Below that I use 25.

@Top_Cat:
Exactly which version of CCE and EclCCE? In the title bar, there is just "ITEM.ECL", not a full path like "D:\somedir\d2vavs\item.ecl"?

[Raymongo]

Encounterd the #0004 error during the rebuilding phase. Before version 0.26 the Runtime error '9' showed up at the same point. I played all files in a player and it does not come up with an error. The VTS itself holds 350 files of witch 300 files are the same sort(stills. but if played it's black screen) and size(45kb). But after 247 files rebuilded from VTS03 i get the error! I hoop it's helps you a bit and if you need more info please ask.

Disney's Dumbo / Version 0.26
CCE 2.0.67.23
Eclcce 1.7b
Bug See above

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Error_0004_Rebuilding_Dumbo.jpg

[Raymongo]

I also still get the Runtime '9' error in the PREPARE Phase as discribed here: Original post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=464418&highlight=kameleon#post464418)

De Schippers van de Kameleon / Version 0.26
CCE 2.0.67.23
Eclcce 1.7b
Bug see above

[dave88]

Nice Program, I tried it on Apocalypse Now Redux, a very long movie (202 min) I encountered no errors, but the final result came in at exactly 5 gigs

win2000
DVD-RB 0.26
CCE 2.67.00.23 w/ECLCCE 1.8

[Stive]

First Post. Had to wait five days...and have been almost glued to the pc reviewing all three threads. Made donation five days ago also 'cause I knew this program would eventually work for all.

Anyway, I did a no no, and stripped out the movie with DVDShrink (no compression) to obtain full quality for the movie. While the coding looks great, I have the stuttering(?) at the chapter points. I'm redoing the dvd with the full compliment of files *not just movie only) to see if the stuttering goes away.

I used: DVDrbv26, DVDShrink 3b5, CCE2.5, Avisynth 2.54, Ecl 1.7. The movie was LOTRings2.

Has anyone been successful in using DVDShrink, then DVDRB?

[loosenut]

Version 0.26
CCE 2.50
Eclcce 2.67.0.23 (1.7b)
Lion King 3, Love Actually
Error #0003 and #0004 (exactly like Raymongo)
That happens whether I use CCE or Rejig, at same point.

Up to now (from V. 018) everything worked as it was expected, except with 'hickups' at chapter points.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
I hope someone will be able to help me.

I have a problem with Rebuilder 0.26, it wont encode. I am using CCE Trial with ECLCCE but when using METHOD TWO and press the "Encode" button CCE lauches with "ITEM.ECL" as the title, but nothing happens there are nothing in the CCE window and Rebuilder uses 100% CPU. I left it like this for 3 hours but nothing was created.

Any ideas or advice?

Thanks
Tom Are you sure you pointed your CCE path to eclCCE? If you point it to CCE Trial directly you will get exactly what you've described -- because the parameters aren't recognized.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
Nice Program, I tried it on Apocalypse Now Redux, a very long movie (202 min) I encountered no errors, but the final result came in at exactly 5 gigs

win2000
DVD-RB 0.26
CCE 2.67.00.23 w/ECLCCE 1.8 Which encoder did you use?

[nwg]

Has anyone been successful in using DVDShrink, then DVDRB?

I have. I used it to strip the audio and the IFO entries for the audio (DVD RB leaves these in).

[dave88]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Which encoder did you use?

CCE 2.67.00.23 SP (Trial) W/ECL CCE 1.8

[kadilak]

AviSynth 2.54
CCE 2.67.00.23
ELCCE 1.8
DVD2AVI DG Version

I'm still getting the skipping/stutter between chapters with DVD-RB 0.26. I ripped the VOB files for the Matrix Reloaded to my HD, then just pointed DVD-RB at em. The only thing I stripped out was the french audio. The prepare, encode, and rebuild procedures went just fine, no errors at all.

I have a Sony standalone DVD Player and I noticed in-between chapters it seems to freeze for just a second.

This occurs during normal playback of the DVD, not during ff/rw.

[dave88]

Originally posted by Stive

Has anyone been successful in using DVDShrink, then DVDRB?

In using DVDShrink(no compression) with Instantcopy 7 I found that it would have serious sizing issues if I used the "set start/end frames" feature in DVDshrink. Apparently some info is lost.

[compusion]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.26
2. CCE SP 2.67.00.23
3. eclcce 1.8
4. DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort.
5. Let me know if you need the "Copy Status to Clipboard"

[Stive]

Originally posted by dave88
In using DVDShrink(no compression) with Instantcopy 7 I found that it would have serious sizing issues if I used the "set start/end frames" feature in DVDshrink. Apparently some info is lost.

Thanks. I didn't get than fancy though. All I did was strip out the main movie title with it's audio/subtitles and applied no compression. Perhaps the other weird thing was, I could not burn the resulting DVDRB files with nero (well, it gave me a "non-dvd compliant error" and asked if I wanted to burn anyway). I did not get the nero error straight from DVDShrink (except for the obvious that it would be to big). I was able to burn the DVDRB files with CloneDVD2 (no burning error noted). However, I still have the chapter stutter when playing.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
CCE 2.67.00.23 SP (Trial) W/ECL CCE 1.8 Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSectors=" parameter?


Note: I edited this to make myself look smarter.

[Wimpy]

Hi,

I have been testing your fantastic tool for a while now and I have been very impressed with the results. I am currently doing a comparision of CCE, QuEnc and ReJig using Xmen 2 Disc 1 R2 as the source. In so doing I have noticed a wierd problem (which might be due to the original DVD) when CCE is used as the encoder.

The problem outlined below doesn't occur when using ReJig 0.5e. I am currently running a test encode with QuEnc 0.45 and I will post an update when it is complete.

EDIT - The Rebuild when QuEnc 0.45 is used as the encoder works correctly too, so this problem is only aparent with CCE SP.

Here is a listing of the VIDEO_TS from the original DVD, notice that VTS_02_0.VOB and VTS_03_0.VOB are zero bytes in length.

14,336 VIDEO_TS.BUP
14,336 VIDEO_TS.IFO
106,496 VIDEO_TS.VOB
77,824 VTS_01_0.BUP
77,824 VTS_01_0.IFO
61,294,592 VTS_01_0.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_1.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_2.VOB
977,911,808 VTS_01_3.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_4.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_5.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_6.VOB
55,449,600 VTS_01_7.VOB
14,336 VTS_02_0.BUP
14,336 VTS_02_0.IFO
0 VTS_02_0.VOB
20,015,104 VTS_02_1.VOB
16,384 VTS_03_0.BUP
16,384 VTS_03_0.IFO
0 VTS_03_0.VOB
214,302,720 VTS_03_1.VOB

.D2V and .AVS files are correctly created for VTS 1 and VTS 3, however they are never created for VTS 2 regardless of which encoder is selected. Is this correct? Maybe due to the 'small' size of VTS 2?

When the 'Rebuild' runs VTS 1 and 2 are correctly recreated, naturally VTS 2 is identical to the that on the original DVD as there is no transcoded/encoded .M2V to work from.

The real problem is this, VTS 3 is quite broken as it only comprises of the zero length VTS_03_0.VOB/.IFO/.BUP but not VTS_03_1.VOB.

16,384 VTS_03_0.BUP
16,384 VTS_03_0.IFO
0 VTS_03_0.VOB

All the .AVS scripts were successfully encoded into .M2V files. As I mentioned at the start, if I use ReJig 0.5e then VTS 3 is correctly recreated from the transcoded .M2V. All the .AVS and .D2V files playback in Media Player Classic. I am using DVD-RV 0.26, with current versions of all the other required software. I have "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" enabled and the problem shows up in both one click and three click mode.

I hope this info is useful, thanks once again for a great tool and I look forward to its continued development :-)

[petesafool]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.26
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23 trial
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8)

@ JDOBBS / RB
With the configuration above I also get the same dormant CCE window as TOP_CAT - and yes the title of the CCE window is just item.ecl.

Didn't use to happen with v0.24 and CCE 2.66.01.07 and ECLCCE 1.4b.

Tried swapping back to earlier DVD-RB version and CCE via ECLCCE but got the same results. So maybe a ECLCCE problem?

hmmm - just tried with ECLCCE 1.4b and it's still happening }:-<

My DVD-RB status reads:
Phase II ENCODING started. Time: 01:49:45
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 00

[dave88]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSize=" parameter?

No, One Click mode, all settings default except VBR_Passes=4

Would enabling "Dynamically assign cell bitrates" possibly help?

[djan]

Originally posted by kadilak
AviSynth 2.54
CCE 2.67.00.23
ELCCE 1.8
DVD2AVI DG Version

I'm still getting the skipping/stutter between chapters with DVD-RB 0.26. I ripped the VOB files for the Matrix Reloaded to my HD, then just pointed DVD-RB at em. The only thing I stripped out was the french audio. The prepare, encode, and rebuild procedures went just fine, no errors at all.

I have a Sony standalone DVD Player and I noticed in-between chapters it seems to freeze for just a second.

This occurs during normal playback of the DVD, not during ff/rw. I have exactly the same problem if I don't pass it throug IfoEdit.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSize=" parameter? Hi jdobbs, wasn't it TargetSectors instead TargetSize ?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by djan
I have exactly the same problem if I don't pass it throug IfoEdit. I'll look at this very closely. Does it studder if you play through a chapter point, or only when you skip to it?

[kadilak]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'll look at this very closely. Does it studder if you play through a chapter point, or only when you skip to it?

For me, it only happens when you play through a chapter point.

[djan]

Originally posted by kadilak
For me, it only happens when you play through a chapter point. The same for me.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by djan
Hi jdobbs, wasn't it TargetSectors instead TargetSize ? Yep. You'd think I'd know that wouldn't you? I actually had to open up the editor and look at the code to be sure...:rolleyes:

[dave88]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSectors=" parameter?


Note: I edited this to make myself look smarter.

:)

Is this something I should try? or something that would cause the sizing problem?

Thanks!

[Stive]

Originally posted by djan
I have exactly the same problem if I don't pass it throug IfoEdit.

FYI. On my preshrunk dvd, using DVDShrink to get movie only contents, the ifoedit did not fix the chapter studder either as a play through or if I ff to the chapter. I'm still waiting for full dvd encode to see the problem is my dvd player or how i used dvdshrink.

Would the AMD processor be a problem? I've noticed in other applications there need to be some work arounds or added features.

DVDRB26
CCE2.50
NTSC
AVI2.54
ECL1.7
LOTRings2
One Click

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
:)

Is this something I should try? or something that would cause the sizing problem?

Thanks! Both. If you have set this value and are oversized it is the cause. If you are oversized and haven't set this value -- you can make it smaller.

But... My calculations should be close -- I get worried when I see output that is too large when using CCE...

[Acerjen]

Jdobbs,

Yesterday I left a message about a glitch in the video and you asked if it was in the original. No it is not. That is why I was curious about what the settings should be for video that contains mostly progressive frames but has some interlaced mixed in. It is at the interlaced frames that I see this video glitch. Any ideals?

Also, I have heard of pulldown but what exactly is it and why does it need to be performed? And when? Could this be my problem?

It is on this type of video only, with the interlaced frames mixed in. I did X-Men 2 Disc 1 today and it plays fine. It is 100% progressive frames.

I would greatly appreciate any ideals you or anyone else has.

Thanks again for a great tool. Later.


Acerjen

[dave88]

On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8

Thanks

[robw]

Code has been added to include audio selections when saving/opening project

Thank you for fixing this in v0.27! That will help in batch file processing video quality.

[Stive]

Originally posted by dave88
On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8

Thanks

I think that is what jdobbs was asking you earlier about using the "targetSectors". If you look a few pages back in the thread (either this one or the thread on suggestions) you'll see you can manually set the size. I've never used it, but I believe you open the dvdrb ini file in notepad and add a line.

[djan]

Wow jdobbs, you corrected a so big bug in this new version. I explain myself : I tried to backup a movie, the resulting first cell was empty. I mean, there was no video, nothing. But the gotten space on the HD was ~100MB. It happened only with CCE and only on the first cell. QuEnc and ReJig worked well. But now, it works very well. Again thx for your big work on this jewel.

[dave88]

Originally posted by Stive
I think that is what jdobbs was asking you earlier about using the "targetSectors". If you look a few pages back in the thread (either this one or the thread on suggestions) you'll see you can manually set the size. I've never used it, but I believe you open the dvdrb ini file in notepad and add a line.

I would'nt know where to begin, would I just subtract the difference between the two ie 5 gig - 4.35 (I assume this is default) = .65 gig too big, so target size = 3.7 gig ? how would I express this in sectors?

[troy]

I tried to back up "holes" again and this time the file size was not 2.2gb but was 3.87gb with dvdrb .26. The original dvd is 7.16 gb which includes extras and previews. As I stated before this is probably an unfair movie to do at this early stage because there are 3 vts sectors. Well when I put the dvd in my pioneer dvd stand alone I get a blank screen with only red on the bottom. When I press menu I get the main menu and everything seems to go good from there. Then the movie just stopped at the end of a chapter. I pressed play and the movie played the rest of the way ok.

[troy]

Sorry In my previous post I stated I have rb .26 when I was using rb .25.

[robw]

@troy
that sounds exactly like what happens when the program can's find the mpeg2dec3.dll (or mpeg2dec3dg.dll) file. I was having this problem early on. The best way to fix it is to look at your registry. Here's how you do this

1. run regedit from the start menu
2. search HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE for AviSynth
3. look at the entry for plugindir2_5
4. your mepg2dec3.dll file should be in this directory. If it's not either change the directoy location in the registry or move the mped2dec3.dll file to the indicated location.

once you've done this the red bars will be a thing of the past! If you've never used regedit, ask for more help. This is your solution.

[dave88]

Originally posted by dave88
On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8


Update: I reauthored with DVDshrink (no compression) movie only and tried again, now DVDrb calculates a reduction of 52.2% this looks about right (it's encoding now) so something on the full disk is tripping up DVDrb's calculations.

Thanks for the awesome tool :)

Update: The DVDShrink Reauthored copy compressed fine and came in at 4.32

[djan]

Originally posted by dave88
I would'nt know where to begin, would I just subtract the difference between the two ie 5 gig - 4.35 (I assume this is default) = .65 gig too big, so target size = 3.7 gig ? how would I express this in sectors? Each sector = 2 kilobytes.

[Wimpy]

Hi,

My QuEnc 0.45 encode and rebuild completed overnight and I have update my original post too.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=466682#post466682

In short, the partial rebuild only occurs when using CCE SP, but when ReJig 5.0e or QuEnc 0.45 are selected all the Video Title Sets get rebuilt correctly.

I see 0.27 is available so I am off to play some more ;-)

[2COOL]

Originally posted by kylan
I get a buffer overflow error #4 (i believe it said) about 35% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later." This has been an ongoing error since version .17, I just haven't been able to post.

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm actively working this. This used to be a '9' error. I inserted that "0004" code to see if this was the offending area -- glad you observed it.
Just did Stuart Little 2 NTSC with DVD-RB 0.26. I got this message during Rebuild when it tried to process V01007800003001.m2v. I was 0.6% in rebuild stage.

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort."
When I viewed V01007800003001.m2v, all I saw was a still clip of a NullSoft Video logo and my file was at 25,974 KB.

I'm using DVD-RB 0.26
CCE SP Ver 2.66.01.07 (Trial)
EclCCE 1.7b
AVISynth 2.54

What's the difference between Error #0003 and #0004? Also, what is the difference with other buffer overflow #s?

[VampHuntD]

Yo Jdobbs,
First off, this program kicks a whole lotta ass, makes life much easier for back ups. Secondly having a very very small issue but I'm curious to see if it's happened to others. Using these

DVD-RB .26
CCE 2.67 trial
Avisyth 2.54
and eclcce 1.7

Everything works in the process, but after I burned it on a dvd-rw it freezes at some points. It continues in about 30-60 seconds and goes on, so it could just be my dvd player (which is an xbox) but I've never had another backup do this. Has anyone else had this issue?

[RB]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Just did Stuart Little 2 NTSC with DVD-RB 0.26.
Could it be it has multiple angles? At least for the R2 PAL version, there's a short multi-angle part at the beginning of the main movie. If so, that could be it because Rebuilder doesn't support interleaved cells yet.

[2COOL]

Using my 0.26 files in my D2VAVS folder, I used v0.27 on them. As I type, I'm over 50% of processing in rebuild stage. Coool! I took a look at the history of 0.27 and this is what concerned me at the moment.

Mar 29th, 2004 (v0.27)
- Fixed an error in which SCRs resetting within a VTS could cause buffer overruns and "Runtime error '9'" errors. This should fix a majority of the overrun problems.

Viewing my REBUILDER.INF, this is what I had with my problem m2v I previously posted.

[V01007800003001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25345.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=1
Frames=2824
Last_Sector=53443
Reduction=49.1

May have to do this DVD from scratch again but will wait to see how it comes out after this test.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by RB
Could it be it has multiple angles? At least for the R2 PAL version, there's a short multi-angle part at the beginning of the main movie. If so, that could be it because Rebuilder doesn't support interleaved cells yet. Yes, you are correct. My version has multi-angles too. :(

[kylan]

Using version 0.27 the buffer overflow (#0004) error still occurs exactly 35.0% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later."

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8

Thanks You shouldn't have to. Tonight I will go back and look at my calculations. If it is oversizing there has to be something wrong...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Could it be it has multiple angles? At least for the R2 PAL version, there's a short multi-angle part at the beginning of the main movie. If so, that could be it because Rebuilder doesn't support interleaved cells yet. I think I will add some code to identify multi-angles and call them out so people know then a problem is related...

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think I will add some code to identify multi-angles and call them out so people know then a problem is related... That would be a plus! Also, I mentioned this in the suggestion thread.

Originally posted by 2COOL
DVD2DVD-R gives us a detection status on what kind of video we are dealing with prior to. Possibly, a feature to do one like this or have a seperate pane displaying what we are dealing with prior or in real-time. e.g. interlaced, progressive, pulldown, etc...

[Raymongo]

Well after rebuilding with version 0.27 i now get another error: Run-time error '6' Overflow
It happens at an other point namely in the Main Movie after having done 36 of the 38 segments in the VTS
The movie is still Disney's Dumbo processed and encoded with version 0.26.And with this version it did not come up with this error it just went past this point and come up later with the #0004 error.
I've not yet done the whole process over again and will try so now.

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Run-time_error_6.jpg

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by RB
@Top_Cat:
Exactly which version of CCE and EclCCE? In the title bar, there is just "ITEM.ECL", not a full path like "D:\somedir\d2vavs\item.ecl"?

I am using CCE SP Trial Ver. 2.66.01.07 with EclCCE v 1.8

The Path is correct and pointing to ITEM.ECL in the D2VAVS folder of the Working Path.

In DVD-RB it says:
Phase II ENCODING started. Time: 12.06.04
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00

I have the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll in the plugin directory of Avisynth 2.5.

Should I change to another version of CCE? If so does anyone have a direct link to a more updated version?

Any other suggestions?

[nwg]

I said in a earlier post,
I have managed to do Back to the Future which has photos with Rejig and CCE. However, it fails during building process after encoding with QuEnc (runtime error 5). The encoding is done successfully.

Just to let you know.

I decided to rebuild the BTTF QuEnc DVD with 027 and also got the runtime error 6 on a DVD with 027 with rebuilding. It seems to have changed from runtime error 5. It failed at the same point.

Doing the whole process from the start with 027 doesn't change the results.

Also, does it matter if I have addaudio ticked when using QuEnc? I use it for CCE but, I wonder if my problem was down to the avisynth part at the beginning. I can still do the same DVD in CCE and Rejig.

[wmansir]

@nwg

Could it be due to stills being present? RB has a problem with stills, though I don't know the error code produced. I started to do BTTF II, but stopped when I noticed it contained stills.

[RB]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
I am using CCE SP Trial Ver. 2.66.01.07 with EclCCE v 1.8

The Path is correct and pointing to ITEM.ECL in the D2VAVS folder of the Working Path.
What operating system do you use? When you click Abort in Rebuilder at this time, can you load the ITEM.ECL into CCE manually? Did you run EclCCE.exe manually at least once and pointed it to the CCE executable?

[Taro]

Hello,

I see, Top_Cat has the same problem, like me:
Phase II, Encoding process starts, CCE appears (with the path of ITEM.ECL file (F:\Test\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL) in the header of it), but nothing happens, CCE doesn't work although Rebuilder owns 100% processor time.

As I mentioned yesterday, I set the path of CCE in eclCCE and set the path of eclCCE in Rebuilder.

JDobbs or anyone, what can the problem be at Top_Cat and me?

(I'm using CCE SP Trial v2.67.011 with EclCCE v1.7b, OS: Win2000)