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issa
4th April 2004, 02:52
jdobbs,

I still got "Run-time Error '6': Overflow" after I pick
the source path. I did delete the INI and re-configure.
I am using the 0.29a already. Could you help me to
find out what happen to me?

Paced
4th April 2004, 03:01
Hey jdobbs, I've got a question for you: is "Deinterlace with DECOMB" only meant activate if it detects an interlaced stream? Because at the moment, it adds deinterlacing commands even for progressive streams. Thanks in advance for the clarification.

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 03:21
Originally posted by Paced
Hey jdobbs, I've got a question for you: is "Deinterlace with DECOMB" only meant activate if it detects an interlaced stream? Because at the moment, it adds deinterlacing commands even for progressive streams. Thanks in advance for the clarification. It definitely isn't supposed to... let me test.

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 03:32
Originally posted by Paced
Hey jdobbs, I've got a question for you: is "Deinterlace with DECOMB" only meant activate if it detects an interlaced stream? Because at the moment, it adds deinterlacing commands even for progressive streams. Thanks in advance for the clarification. Wow. Bad day. I had it set incorrectly and just fixed it. I'll be uploading 0.29b in a few minutes.

robw
4th April 2004, 03:39
jdobbs
great day! it's very understandable how the easy errors get left in. You're concentrating on the hard stuff!

Keep up the great effort, because believe me, we appreciate it immensely

chadp1a
4th April 2004, 03:44
The only decomb package I have found contains decomb510.dll

Is this version compatible with RB?

If compatible am I suppose to rename it to decomb.dll?

nwg
4th April 2004, 03:50
If compatible am I suppose to rename it to decomb.dll?

That is what I did and jdobbs said it would be ok.

chadp1a
4th April 2004, 03:59
Originally posted by nwg
That is what I did and jdobbs said it would be ok.

Thank you

Paced
4th April 2004, 04:02
Originally posted by jdobbs
Wow. Bad day. I had it set incorrectly and just fixed it. I'll be uploading 0.29b in a few minutes.

Thanks for all the hard work jdobbs, make sure you take a break whenever you can.

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 04:06
Originally posted by chadp1a
The only decomb package I have found contains decomb510.dll

Is this version compatible with RB?

If compatible am I suppose to rename it to decomb.dll? You just have to make sure the DECOMB version you get is compatible with the AVISYNTH version. 5.1.1 is compatible with AVISYNTH 2.5 -- which is what I'm recommending for DVD-RB.

You can download if from Neuron2's Site (http://neuron2.net/decomb/decomb511.zip)

chadp1a
4th April 2004, 04:59
Originally posted by jdobbs
You just have to make sure the DECOMB version you get is compatible with the AVISYNTH version. 5.1.1 is compatible with AVISYNTH 2.5 -- which is what I'm recommending for DVD-RB.

You can download if from Neuron2's Site (http://neuron2.net/decomb/decomb511.zip)

Thanks

Well my results are in now for the newest version .29b

It has worked perfect on two titles so far. No more overflow errors!!

Thanks jdobbs......

lab-one
4th April 2004, 05:39
Backed-up Ripleys Game with:

DVD-RB .29 (pre .29a and .29b)

no overflow errors or any other issues. everything looks great.

thanks for all of the work on this jdobbs.

[edit]: did find some skipping/stuttering of video at chapter breaks.

DVDDecrypter (file mode)
DVD-RB .29
ImageTool
DVDDecrypter (write)

KungFuCow
4th April 2004, 06:51
Did my troubled child, Bring It On Again with .29b. Process completed fine, still grossly undersized however. 3.68GB.

2COOL
4th April 2004, 07:08
Originally posted by KungFuCow
Did my troubled child, Bring It On Again with .29b. Process completed fine, still grossly undersized however. 3.68GB. Are you doing NTSC? I believe I have this movie lying around somewhere to test.

KungFuCow
4th April 2004, 07:12
Originally posted by 2COOL
Are you doing NTSC? I believe I have this movie lying around somewhere to test.

Yup.. NTSC

Strangely enough this is the one movie Ive done that comes out undersized EVERY time.

2COOL
4th April 2004, 07:28
Originally posted by KungFuCow
Yup.. NTSC

Strangely enough this is the one movie Ive done that comes out undersized EVERY time. I found it. Now, I need more information on what software are you using and if you pre-stripped anything out. I'm thinking of doing the whole DVD, keeping everything, which comes out to 7.72 GB (8,298,199,040 bytes).

KungFuCow
4th April 2004, 07:35
I havent prestripped anything or preprocessed it with anything. The only thing thats been removed is the audio streams and they are being removed by DVD-RB.

2COOL
4th April 2004, 09:03
Originally posted by KungFuCow
I havent prestripped anything or preprocessed it with anything. The only thing thats been removed is the audio streams and they are being removed by DVD-RB.
I loaded my files in DVD-RB 0.29b and was going to strip out just 2 of 4 audios (DTS and French) and I only had these detected in my movie titleset, VTS_06.

Audio stream to keep:
Audio_1 6 Chan,DTS,Lang: English
Audio_2 6 Chan,AC3,Lang: English

In actuality, this is what I have in IfoEdit, which is 4 audio streams.

Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: English (DTS ) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x89)
Audio 3: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x82)
Audio 4: English (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC normal (ID: 0x83)
What confuses me is that my DVD-RB detected audios, Audio_1 and Audio_2, are swapped according to what I see in IfoEdit. :confused: :confused:

@jdobbs

What's going on?

DnGermany
4th April 2004, 12:49
Quick question. Since the path for decomb and mpeg2decdg were added to RB setup, do i need to put in the location eventhough they should be auto loaded in avisynth 2.54.

Paced
4th April 2004, 13:37
Originally posted by DnGermany
Quick question. Since the path for decomb and mpeg2decdg were added to RB setup, do i need to put in the location eventhough they should be auto loaded in avisynth 2.54.

If you already have mpeg2dec3.dll in your AVISynth 2.5/plugins directory, you won't need to give it a location in DVD-RB. But, you will need to give DVD-RB the location of your Decomb.dll (the 'Deinterlace with DECOMB' option won't activate until you give it a path).

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 14:14
Originally posted by DnGermany
Quick question. Since the path for decomb and mpeg2decdg were added to RB setup, do i need to put in the location eventhough they should be auto loaded in avisynth 2.54. If it is correctly loaded in the Plug-in directory and the registry entry is set correctly you don't have to set the path at all. But there were so many incorrectly installed versions of MPEG2DEC found on the first few rounds of DVD-RB that I decided to make a preemptive strike.

DnGermany
4th April 2004, 15:58
First of all, thanks for the great program. Thanks for the quick response and keep up the good work. To you add the many other programmers that make our lives easier thanks.

caprioles9000
4th April 2004, 16:00
wicked tool :) simply wicked

I backed up 24 season1 disc1 region 2 Pal:

everything went smooth so i thought i should burn it on an RW and see if it plays..menu was fine however ...i also had video stuttering and then it just hangs.....and the chapters did not work ...but besides that ..great ..and fast tooooo :) ....will be a great tool when it becomes final :)

2COOL
4th April 2004, 18:41
@KungFuCow

I tried to strip out any audios with Bring It On (R1) but there's still a problem with DVD-RB 0.29b keeping audios, in question, being unstripped. I knew I selected DTS for removal but it was still there as confirmed in VobEdit. Anyways, my end size came out to 4.31 GB.

Mephiston
4th April 2004, 19:27
Just tried .30

No matter what i do it says CCE Path not set, run setup or something like that.

StifflerStealth
4th April 2004, 20:58
I have a disc with a folder labled JACKET_P. After the Rebuild phase, can I just copy that folder from the source to the DVD-RB working directory and those files will work? Or do there need to bespecial entries in the IFO files to make them work. If there need to be entries in the IFO files, does DVD-RB copy them to the new ifo files? Last, what are the files in the JACKET_P folder for? I've seen an option in DVD Maestro to add jacket file, bu never had a clear explination of what they're for.

Thanks,
Stiff

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 21:19
Originally posted by StifflerStealth
I have a disc with a folder labled JACKET_P. After the Rebuild phase, can I just copy that folder from the source to the DVD-RB working directory and those files will work? Or do there need to bespecial entries in the IFO files to make them work. If there need to be entries in the IFO files, does DVD-RB copy them to the new ifo files? Last, what are the files in the JACKET_P folder for? I've seen an option in DVD Maestro to add jacket file, bu never had a clear explination of what they're for.

Thanks,
Stiff Just copying should work.

redfive19
5th April 2004, 06:56
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) is no longer in the options. Any ideas? Also, it's not putting the path to decomb in the AVS's. I know this dvd is interlaced. I thought it also needed the FieldDeinterlace() command as well. just an fyi! Keep up the great work.

v0.30

-redfive

Offline
5th April 2004, 09:21
@ jdobbs

A minor point but if the Temp field is not set in the
main screen, the first third of the process is activated
and ends with an error when the .AVS files cannot be located.
Just needs some idiot proofing here - perhaps a system default path
or a rebuilder warning msg.

I got the overflow error again with v0.29b but will try v0.30
before posting details.

Thanks.

SAPSTAR
5th April 2004, 15:25
Originally posted by StifflerStealth
I have a disc with a folder labled JACKET_P. After the Rebuild phase, can I just copy that folder from the source to the DVD-RB working directory and those files will work? Or do there need to bespecial entries in the IFO files to make them work. If there need to be entries in the IFO files, does DVD-RB copy them to the new ifo files? Last, what are the files in the JACKET_P folder for? I've seen an option in DVD Maestro to add jacket file, bu never had a clear explination of what they're for.

Thanks,
Stiff

The Jacket_p directory is used to display a picture (The movie jacket for example) instead of a blank/blue screen when you press the stop button on your DVD player...of course some players aren't compatible with that option and just ignore this directory..My Sony NS715P does it....You can copy them, it will work...no encryption....just pictures...

SAPSTAR.

djan
6th April 2004, 00:44
Hi, just need some clarifications about 0.31. Does it scan if the source is interlaced or not ? If yes, does it deinterlace automatically ? Do I have to select "Deinterlace with DECOMB" to deinterlace the source ? And do I have to unselect it if I know it's not interlaced or is all automatic ?

Thx to make it all clear for me.

sreemv
6th April 2004, 02:02
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

DVD-RB: 0.31B
EclCCE: Yes

The error popped up after first 2 steps were successful.
Trying to backup "Harry Potter Sorcerers Stone".

jdobbs
6th April 2004, 02:34
Originally posted by djan
Hi, just need some clarifications about 0.31. Does it scan if the source is interlaced or not ? If yes, does it deinterlace automatically ? Do I have to select "Deinterlace with DECOMB" to deinterlace the source ? And do I have to unselect it if I know it's not interlaced or is all automatic ?

Thx to make it all clear for me. It scans no matter what. It examines the "progressive" flag. No, it does not deinterlace automatically -- mainly because that isn't always desirable -- but if you check the "Deinterlace with DECOMB" AVS option and it is interlaced the source will be deinterlaced. Sources that are recognized as progressive are never deinterlaced.

djan
6th April 2004, 04:15
Originally posted by jdobbs
It scans no matter what. It examines the "progressive" flag. No, it does not deinterlace automatically -- mainly because that isn't always desirable -- but if you check the "Deinterlace with DECOMB" AVS option and it is interlaced the source will be deinterlaced. Sources that are recognized as progressive are never deinterlaced. So, even the source is not interlaced and I select "deinterlace with DECOMB", it'll not be deinterlaced ?

jdobbs
6th April 2004, 04:26
Originally posted by djan
So, even the source is not interlaced and I select "deinterlace with DECOMB", it'll not be deinterlaced ? If the source is not interlaced there is never a reason to deinterlace. If the source is progressive -- deinterlacing will never be added -- the "Deinterlace with DECOM" would have no effect.

chadp1a
6th April 2004, 19:08
@jdobbs

What fixes as of now will be included in the .32 update?

geffroman
6th April 2004, 21:45
Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs

What fixes as of now will be included in the .32 update? Hey jdobbs... while you are at it... and doing nothing else... what fixes are you planning for .38.54.6... and .39.22.1

Thanks... :devil:

chadp1a
6th April 2004, 21:48
Originally posted by geffroman
Hey jdobbs... while you are at it... and doing nothing else... what fixes are you planning for .38.54.6... and .39.22.1

Thanks... :devil:

Is there a problem with my previous post?

Joergen
6th April 2004, 22:51
No its just a waste of time to ask about the next version. I know we're all excited about the development and would like a fully working version as soon as possible, but lets just give jdobbs some room and accept every new beta with cheers.

chadp1a
6th April 2004, 23:15
Originally posted by Joergen
No its just a waste of time to ask about the next version. I know we're all excited about the development and would like a fully working version as soon as possible, but lets just give jdobbs some room and accept every new beta with cheers.

Yes but very excited is not the words to describe such a program jdobbs has created. I'm thinking more along the lines of an amazing piece of work from a genius when it comes to programming.

My AudioDub settings are checked upon initial startup of RB .31 but I have to uncheck and then recheck for it to be added to the avs files. Not a big deal really but every once in a while I will forget to do this and when I get back to the house after the phases have completed I notice that the AudioDub is not there.

That's the reason for my initial post. Hopes that this may be on the agenda for the next release.

Anyways thanks for your professional response.

robw
7th April 2004, 00:55
Originally posted by chadp1a
Yes but very excited is not the words to describe such a program jdobbs has created. I'm thinking more along the lines of an amazing piece of work from a genius when it comes to programming.

You gotta love people with such enthusiasm :D

issa
7th April 2004, 06:05
Jdobbs,

Did DVD-RB support LPCM audio?

issa.

cdburrner
7th April 2004, 07:12
i'm trying to back up csi season 1 disc 1 (ntsc)

dvd rebuilder v0.31b
cce 2.50
avisynth 2.5.4
one click method

it takes a while in Phase I: preparation... jumps right through Phase II: encoding, starts to rebuild, and then i get an error window stating that "There's nothing to be done"

sorry if this problem has already been stated, but i didnt feel like reading through 40-someodd pages. call me lazy.

cdburrner
7th April 2004, 07:15
ohhh... and one more thing.

as i'm no programmer i'm not sure exactly how difficult this would be but.... maybe have rebuilder check to make sure all the paths for exe's and dll's are valid BEFORE starting a project. i know it sounds dumb, but it might save some idiots out there (like me) the hour it takes preparing the sources before it discovers you renamed your cce folder sinse the last time you used rebuilder.

OR... add PAL to NTSC conversion. not sure how possible menu reauthoring would be handled... or is that just laughable? anyhow, i have a big donation waiting for easy PAL conversion!
at long last... i could watch david lynch's "lost highway" on something besides a cheap apex player.

regardless, i'll be making a donation of some sort as soon as i have the cash. thanks for the great prog

geffroman
7th April 2004, 09:45
Originally posted by cdburrner
OR... add PAL to NTSC conversion. not sure how possible menu reauthoring would be handled... or is that just laughable? anyhow, i have a big donation waiting for easy PAL conversion!
at long last... i could watch david lynch's "lost highway" on something besides a cheap apex player. I was under the impression from reading on this forum that PAL to NTSC conversion creates a horrible result... am I wrong...?

nwg
7th April 2004, 11:03
it takes a while in Phase I: preparation... jumps right through Phase II: encoding, starts to rebuild, and then i get an error window stating that "There's nothing to be done"

Are you using eclCCE? The eclCCE file needs to know where the eclCCE exe file is. Double click on eclCCE and it will ask for the location of the CCE exe file. You then need to get DVD RB point to the eclCCE exe rather than the CCE exe file.

cdburrner
7th April 2004, 12:16
man do i feel dumb... i thought eclcce was asking for a path to cce to patch it, making it compatible with command line. didn't know i had to open cce through eclcce. fixed. reencoding as we speek.

and no, i dont believe PAL the NTSC has horrible results... i mean, i'm sure it does when people try to use crappy programs such as nero recode, but using pulldown, it should look just fine. just wondering if there was a simple way to work it into rebuilder.

CiViC
7th April 2004, 14:21
Originally posted by sreemv
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

DVD-RB: 0.31B
EclCCE: Yes

The error popped up after first 2 steps were successful.
Trying to backup "Harry Potter Sorcerers Stone".

I got the same thing when I checked my pc this morning :(

I deleted all my old versions of DVD-RB; where can I still download them..? (maybe the older ones will rebuild it fine)

Sir Didymus
7th April 2004, 14:39
Originally posted by CiViC
I got the same thing when I checked my pc this morning :(

I deleted all my old versions of DVD-RB; where can I still download them..? (maybe the older ones will rebuild it fine)

It has been already reported it is not recommended to switch back to older releases of DVD-RB. If errors are FLAGGED in the the actual release and not in the older, it does'nt mean that the ERRORS were not present earlier, it means just they were not stopping the program.

DVD-RB is in beta test, and the troubles you have are reported by many other beta testes; you'd better just be patient, looking for new releases of DVD-RB that hopefully will fix the reported bugs...

Cheers

luphy
8th April 2004, 18:59
Sorry if this is a question already answered or if it's too basic but I haven't had a chance to run RB yet due to hard disk space limitation. I'm relatively ignorant of the whole Big3 process so I figured I'd let the experts sort out the problems during this beta testing phase.

Anyways, does RB have the ability to combine different titlesets into one title? I often do backups of episodes and will use Shrink to trim out the repetitive intros/credits. But that creates several titlesets.

I figured with my space limitation (will have to buy an external HD for my laptop one of these days), maybe I could run Shrink and have it decrypt and trim the movie without any compression, then run that through RB. I never backup extras btw.

Thanks.

wmansir
8th April 2004, 21:03
Originally posted by luphy
Anyways, does RB have the ability to combine different titlesets into one title? I often do backups of episodes and will use Shrink to trim out the repetitive intros/credits. But that creates several titlesets.


At this point RB can only do (nearly) direct backups, the only thing it can change (by removal) are audio streams. It can't even remove titlesets, let alone re-arrange them. I know Jdobbs has plans for it to do much more, but from what I have gathered any advanced processes (like restructuring the layout) would be a long way off, if it were to ever happen.

geffroman
8th April 2004, 21:05
Originally posted by luphy
I often do backups of episodes and will use Shrink to trim out the repetitive intros/credits. But that creates several titlesets. I am guessing that what you really need is a great editor... I am a huge fan of Sopranos, CSI, Law & Order, NYPD, MASH and have done tons of episodic DVDs. You can keep the menus for navigation and delete just about anything you want... remove buttons, substitute intros and extras or delete them creating the perfect DVD for you with DVDReMake (Thread here). (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70006)

Then run the finished project through DVD-RB.

DVD-RM + DVD-RB = DVD-Perfection !

robw
8th April 2004, 21:50
Originally posted by geffroman
Then run the finished project through DVD-RB.

DVD-RM + DVD-RB = DVD-Perfection !

Geffroman
you've got a great product and I absolutely agree that the combination with DVD-RB is an absolutely amazing combination.

geffroman
8th April 2004, 22:01
Originally posted by robw
Geffroman
you've got a great product and I absolutely agree that the combination with DVD-RB is an absolutely amazing combination. I wish it was mine... I am just a happy customer sharing the good word...

robw
8th April 2004, 22:36
Originally posted by geffroman
I wish it was mine... I am just a happy customer sharing the good word...

oops. I actually did know that ... Dimad's the one :)
Your name just pops in my mind because you started the thread in the ifo/vob editors section.

YaoMing11
9th April 2004, 00:19
How is the quality using Rejig with DVD-RB compared to say Instant Copy 8 if I had to compress the movie to around 73%? I'd really like to know you guys' opinions.

nwg
9th April 2004, 00:20
Rejig is excellent. I have done as low as 65% and it was excellent to look at.

E-Male
9th April 2004, 00:42
Originally posted by YaoMing11
How is the quality using Rejig with DVD-RB compared to say Instant Copy 8 if I had to compress the movie to around 73%? I'd really like to know you guys' opinions.
to really answere this question you have to try both with every movie you want to transcode, because it depends much on the material

djan
9th April 2004, 02:34
Originally posted by geffroman
DVD-RM + DVD-RB = DVD-Perfection ! Can't I make the job with DVDStripper and MenuEdit ? :)

Axlemar
9th April 2004, 02:46
I heard that Jdobbs is going to support tmpgenc eventually, thanks for the range of encoders by the way. I was wondering if Quenc or tmpgenc give better results and is there a way to test tmpgenc as of right now, through a plugin or a possible script. This program has come a long way in a short time and I hope the stutter and sync issues are resolved. Thanks a lot Jdobbs!

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 03:05
yo jdobbs...

how possible would it be to have rebuilder keep a temp log, enabling it to resume a project that went bad? i use CCE 2.66+ and 2.50 and every once in a while it'll hang while encoding. but works fine the second or third time around. is this possible at all? for example cce hangs while encoding the 5th part of VTS #2... you just reopen rebuilder and load up your project and log. rebuilder notices that the last completed part was the 4th section of VTS #2, and you can continue on from there. or perhaps you could even switch between different versions of CCE... perhaps 2.67 was freezing for some unknown reason. and you could continue where you left off with an older version of CCE. just a though. i'm not sure how hard this would be to implement, but it's sounds dooable in theory.

let me know what you think!

also, do you plan on making rebuilder delete the D2VAVS folder once a job is successfully completed?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! you're the f*ing man.

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 03:14
Originally posted by cdburrner
yo jdobbs...

how possible would it be to have rebuilder keep a temp log, enabling it to resume a project that went bad? i use CCE 2.66+ and 2.50 and every once in a while it'll hang while encoding. but works fine the second or third time around. is this possible at all? for example cce hangs while encoding the 5th part of VTS #2... you just reopen rebuilder and load up your project and log. rebuilder notices that the last completed part was the 4th section of VTS #2, and you can continue on from there. or perhaps you could even switch between different versions of CCE... perhaps 2.67 was freezing for some unknown reason. and you could continue where you left off with an older version of CCE. just a though. i'm not sure how hard this would be to implement, but it's sounds dooable in theory.

let me know what you think!

also, do you plan on making rebuilder delete the D2VAVS folder once a job is successfully completed?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! you're the f*ing man. I'll implement this as a part of the pause and resume function.

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 04:20
sweet jesus! what a reply, and in a very timely manner to boot!...

one quick question though. by pause and resume, do you mean resume from where you paused? or do you mean resume as in "yeah, CCE 2.66 sh*t the bed, i had to restart my computer. good thing i can open rebuilder and resume from VTS #89" i'm curious as to how rebuilder handles CCE... are the files it makes to be used with CCE exclusive to that version alone? or is my question about resuming a project with a different version of CCE a crazy man's dream and a programmer's nightmare?

you know JD... i did post saying i would donate and i would have done so this morning, if it weren't for a speeding ticket last night. rest assured you'll be getting what i can send on the 15th. we in the department of defense call that payday.

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 04:29
Originally posted by cdburrner
sweet jesus! what a reply, and in a very timely manner to boot!...

one quick question though. by pause and resume, do you mean resume from where you paused? or do you mean resume as in "yeah CCE sh*t the bed, i had to restart my computer. good thing i can open rebuilder and resume from VTS #89" just wondering.

you know jd... i did post saying i would donate and i would have done so this morning, if it weren't for a speeding ticket last night. rest assured you'll be getting what i can send on the 15th. I plan to make it resume after the last successful step. But remember there are some limitations. If CCE (or some other package) screws up, but successfully returns to DVD-RB, there is no way for the program to know that -- and it will asssume everything is ok...

BTW: Sorry about the ticket...

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 04:33
yeah they suck.... i was just restationed from anchorage, alaska to panama city beach, florida... these damn highways down here. flat, straight... looking like a runway, but damned if they lift the speed limit over 45!

well, peace out. time for OVER-priced beer and UNDER-aged girls. ahhh spring break.

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 04:33
Originally posted by Axlemar
I heard that Jdobbs is going to support tmpgenc eventually, thanks for the range of encoders by the way. I was wondering if Quenc or tmpgenc give better results and is there a way to test tmpgenc as of right now, through a plugin or a possible script. This program has come a long way in a short time and I hope the stutter and sync issues are resolved. Thanks a lot Jdobbs! You can open AVS files with TMPGEnc if you have it set up right. You could run PREPARE, and then run TMPGENC on the resulting AVS files, followed by a REBUILD. But you'd have to someone determine and set all the configuration parameters for TMPEGENC. I'm not familiar enough with its file formats to do that automatically or it would be supported already.

I can tell you that from my experience in the past, TMPGENC was second only to CCE -- but that was before all the FFMPEG improvements that QuEnc has. So I'm not sure how they rate against each other now.

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 04:36
and one more thing.... perhaps i can donate in another way. besides domestic currency....

how bout a nifty, new icon for dvdrb? anything you're needing graphics wise? not saying you're not capable of photoshoping something up... just offering.

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 04:39
Originally posted by cdburrner
yeah they suck.... i was just restationed from anchorage, alaska to panama city beach, florida... these damn highways down here. flat, straight... looking like a runway, but damned if they lift the speed limit over 45!

well, peace out. time for OVER-priced beer and UNDER-aged girls. ahhh spring break. Elmendorf to Tyndall I assume... big change.

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 04:40
Originally posted by jdobbs
Elmendorf to Tyndall I assume... big change.

wow! you're not in are you? ok ok ok... this time i'm really out. later.

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 04:41
Originally posted by cdburrner
wow! you're not in are you? No. But I get around.

geffroman
9th April 2004, 05:44
Originally posted by djan
Can't I make the job with DVDStripper and MenuEdit ? :)

Sure... That would change the equation to:

DVDStripper + MenuEdit + DVD-RB = Extra Steps:cool:

IMHO

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 17:51
yo dobbs...

i'm using RB .31 and cce 2.66 doesnt like one of the cells... but i can close out the project and CCE will automatically go on to the next file and finish the rest of the movie... once CCE's finished, if i wanted to edit the rebuilder.ecl file to only include the problematic cell could i load it into a different version of CCE? i guess what i'm asking is if ecl files are universal or are they exclusive to the version of CCE used?

perhaps this could be used as a work around? if RB detects that cce hangs or freezes on a particular cell, it could skip it, go on and give the user a notice once the encoding is done... asking the user to pick a different method of encoding and finish the job up.

edit: and if anyone else knows the answer to my eclcce question, feel more than free to answer it and save jdobbs the hastle. i would just test this for myself, but i'm away from my (personal)computer for a while and kinda mulling over it.

djan
9th April 2004, 18:16
Originally posted by geffroman
Sure... That would change the equation to:

DVDStripper + MenuEdit + DVD-RB = Extra Steps:cool:

IMHO But the result is the same. :) --> Perfect backup !

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 18:44
Originally posted by cdburrner
yo dobbs...

i'm using RB .31 and cce 2.66 doesnt like one of the cells... but i can close out the project and CCE will automatically go on to the next file and finish the rest of the movie... once CCE's finished, if i wanted to edit the rebuilder.ecl file to only include the problematic cell could i load it into a different version of CCE? i guess what i'm asking is if ecl files are universal or are they exclusive to the version of CCE used?

perhaps this could be used as a work around? if RB detects that cce hangs or freezes on a particular cell, it could skip it, go on and give the user a notice once the encoding is done... asking the user to pick a different method of encoding and finish the job up.

edit: and if anyone else knows the answer to my eclcce question, feel more than free to answer it and save jdobbs the hastle. i would just test this for myself, but i'm away from my (personal)computer for a while and kinda mulling over it. ECLs change between versions of CCE. Define "doesn't like it" -- it isn't very often that the problem is in CCE...

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 19:10
define it... well i ripped the dvd at 9x and cce 2.66 would start the 6th vaf of vts 1... it would always do the first pass... while doing the actual encoding it would freeze at 88% (tried it 3 times) . i thought maybe i ripped it too fast and the original VOB was corrupt. i ripped it again at 2x. now 2.66 freezes at 98%. 2.50 didnt have a problem with either rip.

jdobbs
9th April 2004, 21:58
Originally posted by cdburrner
define it... well i ripped the dvd at 9x and cce 2.66 would start the 6th vaf of vts 1... it would always do the first pass... while doing the actual encoding it would freeze at 88% (tried it 3 times) . i thought maybe i ripped it too fast and the original VOB was corrupt. i ripped it again at 2x. now 2.66 freezes at 98%. 2.50 didnt have a problem with either rip. Now that's interesting... what's the movie? I'd like to take a look at it.

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 22:11
i'm backing up CSI season 1... this problem is with disc 3. perhaps it's the disc, but i highly doubt it...

maybe i'll even try ripping it with smart ripper, might make a difference. i've have seen stranger things when it comes to dvds.

also... the source is interlaced, i check decomb and i have the path for decomb.dll correct, but my output is still interlaced. i think i've seen someone already post on this subject, but i dont remember what was said. i'm not too worried as the output still looked fine (considering the original quality isnt too great to begin with) and but i assume that sometimes it's better to keep interlaced video interlaced.

cdburrner
9th April 2004, 22:48
ok... what i did.

CCE 2.66 went on about its way once i closed out the job for the 6th vaf of VTS 1, encoding the rest of the movie without a problem. i then opened rebuilder.ecl and edited it, leaving only the info pointing the the problematic section...
--------------------------------------------------------------------

title=V01000500001006
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.vaf
aud_file=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=4
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=920
vbr_brate_min=000
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gap_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frame=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
quality_prec=20
vid_file0=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.m2v
vid_file1=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
video_type=4
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=5
vbr_pass=2
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

[file]
name=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=1076
encode_first=0
encode_last=1076
--------------------------------------------------------------------
i saved this in a different directory, keeping the original rebuilder.ecl intact. i also copy & pasted all the necessary D2V, AVS, and VAF files for this particular section to the folder with my nifty new ecl file. reopened EclCCE and tried one final time to encode it with 2.66. this time it froze at 44%, which i find rather wierd sinse it froze at the same place sooo many times before... now 44%? don't ask me...

now i try CCE 2.50 and it opens my edited ecl file (which rebuilder made for 2.66) and encodes just fine. you'll note the vbr averate is only 920.... this vaf was just like 30 seconds of credits. dont know if that matters... cce doesnt have some special filter for credits does it? i know other programs (for xvid) have them.

anyway... now that everything is encoded, rebuilder is still waiting for me to reauthor (i'm using the 3 step method)... it's half way done, but it [I]did get through "rebuilding segment 5 VOBID:1 CELLID:6" when updating information in NAVPACKS just fine!

UPDATE: well, rebuilder finished uh... rebuilding. and the final product works just fine. i guess you can use an ecl file intended for one particular version of CCE with another after all.

candsh
10th April 2004, 05:06
I have never used CCE but have been following this thread(s) with much interest. Decided to try it and used Rejig and had perfect results the first time I used it on "Cast Away". Was so excited that I ordered CCE Basic ( $58 sales@visiblelight.com) and have been shut out since. Jdobbs has remarked that he is turning out DVD after DVD with CCE Basic and no problems. Is there a place to show how to set it up for this program. I have read the guides but all that is there is for the RobShot method. All I am doing now is crashing the computer about 3/4 of the way thru. Followed all the setup instructions to the letter but there must be something more to setting up CCE than my pea brain can grasp.

cdburrner
10th April 2004, 05:21
what exactly do you mean by "set up"? rebuilder does everything for you, save the few options it gives you... and as far as they go...

i personally use a VERY low bias when encoding very long movies or episodic (TV) dvds... such as CSI, which i'm doing right now... it's about 180+ minutes per disc and full screen to boot, which makes quite a difference. (takes up more space than widescreen sinse the picture's larger)

as for quality_prec i leave it at about 20.

and passes... you can get into a rather heated discussion about the number of passes one should use. i'll go with 2 passes if i'm dropping down a drama (read: not too much action or movement) or a shorter movie. i'll make 3 passes on longer movies or movies with lots of action or scenes with lots of detail (matrix revolutions) pretty much anything with lots of fire, water, rain... things like that. every once in a while i'll go 4 or 5, but that's just on special occasions like lord of the rings.

just make sure that you copy all the files in the EclCCE zip you download into your CCE folder. run eclcce and the first time it'll ask you to direct it to the cce main program exe. after that, open rebuilder and go to settings under options. it asks for the file path to CCE 2.50, CCE (new), rejig, etc... make sure that you direct it to the eclcce program and not cce!!!

and one more thing. you can set up rebuilder to use multiple versions of CCE, but just make sure that for each version you have it in a different folder (duh) and have a different eclcce for each version... otherwise, you might think you're using cce 2.50 cause you checked it off in the options in rebuilder, but the path you gave it will take you to the eclcce you already pointed at cce 2.66 or 2.67

hopefully i havent been too confusing. if so, just explain what you're not understanding.

candsh
10th April 2004, 06:44
Thanks cdburrner,
I have not included the eclcce files in my CCE Basic. I wasn't sure I needed it for this version. Will download and set them up and try again. Thanks very much for your quick response.

cdburrner
10th April 2004, 07:04
hmm... i've actually never used the basic version before, so you quite possibly dont even neet eclcce... but hey, it couldnt hurt.

KungFuCow
10th April 2004, 10:11
Originally posted by cdburrner
hmm... i've actually never used the basic version before, so you quite possibly dont even neet eclcce... but hey, it couldnt hurt.

You dont.

robot1
10th April 2004, 10:12
EclCCE is needed for CCE2.50 and for CCE2.x demo.
CCE Basic doesn't need EclCCE.
@candsh
are you sure that your computer is "rock stable" ?
Other users haven't crashes with cce basic.

facialcrunch
12th April 2004, 23:22
I was trying to use version 0.34 to copy the Gladiator Widescreen DVD. The original is 7.8 GB. I am using CCESP (new) with it with CCEECL. I've tried the one-step process and the three-step process. Both times, it took about 3-4 hrs. and I got my resultant AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS (with files) folders without errors. If I open the folder with the files with PowerDVD, it works fine. If I open it with Cineplayer or WinDVD, it freezes. I've used DVDFab and Nero to burn each to a DVDR- and it will not run on my computer or hardware DVD player. The burned disk freezes on the computer and when I try to load it in my hardware DVD, it pauses for about 10 seconds and then skips to the next disk. I haven't tried another movie yet.

Have you seen this problem before? Have I done something wrong? Just my experience to help with the progress. Thanks for the beginnings of a great program!

Joergen
12th April 2004, 23:25
Originally posted by facialcrunch
I was trying to use version 0.34 to copy the Gladiator Widescreen DVD. The original is 7.8 GB. I am using CCESP (new) with it with CCEECL. I've tried the one-step process and the three-step process. Both times, it took about 3-4 hrs. and I got my resultant AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS (with files) folders without errors. If I open the folder with the files with PowerDVD, it works fine. If I open it with Cineplayer or WinDVD, it freezes. I've used DVDFab and Nero to burn each to a DVDR- and it will not run on my computer or hardware DVD player. The burned disk freezes on the computer and when I try to load it in my hardware DVD, it pauses for about 10 seconds and then skips to the next disk. I haven't tried another movie yet.

Have you seen this problem before? Have I done something wrong? Just my experience to help with the progress. Thanks for the beginnings of a great program!

I just did Gladiator (russel crowe) Special two disc limited edition R2 with the same setup as you without problems (have now watched it half-way also). I'm currently encoding the extras-disc.

luphy
13th April 2004, 00:12
I read somewhere that DVD2DVDR does not require writing temp files during the encoding process but can read/process data directly off the DVD?

Does DVDRB do the same or does it require a complete decrypted HD copy to process?

tf
13th April 2004, 00:15
It requires the DVD to be decrypted.

-tf

luphy
13th April 2004, 18:46
Just some general questions:

How long does it take to encode using QuEnc versus CCE (2 or 3 passes total)?

And let's assume a high compression is needed for a certain movie, is QuEnc definitely better than Rejig or other transcoders? I know it's a somewhat forbidden question, but it seems at least that everyone agrees that CCE definitely beats out the transcoders at high compression.

And regarding versions of CCE, is there any reason people are still using 2.50 instead of 2.6 or 2.7?

Joergen
13th April 2004, 18:51
CCE takes long theres no doubt, on an XP2100+ (your lower end CPU today) about 5 hours for a movie in 3pass (which is enough passes imo) and I dont care about other encoders because they cant touch CCE.

But if a movie can be transcoded, it can be transcoded with dvdshrink. And if it cant (below 75%), then it should be done with CCE imho.

nwg
13th April 2004, 18:54
How long does it take to encode using QuEnc versus CCE (2 or 3 passes total)?

QuEnc does a two pass encode. It is about the same time as a two pass CCE. The quality is excellent.

I like it very much but it suffers from the runtime error 5 problem during the rebuild stage on some DVD's.

I am using CCE2.50 and plan to stick with it. It works well for me.

Cokedealer
14th April 2004, 07:22
Dunno if i missed it or not but is multi angles included yet? It would help for some of these anime dvds im working on.

jdobbs
14th April 2004, 11:56
Originally posted by Cokedealer
Dunno if i missed it or not but is multi angles included yet? It would help for some of these anime dvds im working on. Not yet. I've suspended it until I get the stuttering out.

dancis
14th April 2004, 11:57
I am getting buffer overflow errors all the time when rebuilding reaches about 96% .

Can this be a memory issue? how much mb does DVD-rb require?

Joergen
14th April 2004, 15:14
I've got 1GB of RAM myself, and plenty of swap space. But I doubt there are requirements for those?

jdobbs: what does DVD-RB say when it runs out of space on the HD during encode or recompile?

jdobbs
14th April 2004, 15:23
Originally posted by dancis
I am getting buffer overflow errors all the time when rebuilding reaches about 96% .

Can this be a memory issue? how much mb does DVD-rb require? No. It doesn't take that much memory. The size of the buffer isn't the problem -- when I hit these situations it will overflow no matter how big I make it. Here's the priority right now:

1. BFF field order working properly
2. Stuttering done.
3. Runtime error '9'
4. Buffer overflows 0004 and 0003

I will also sprinkle other things (requests that don't take a lot of thought) into versions as I work these.

danjx
15th April 2004, 02:42
Sigh, I need help. I have used instructions for install and usage that were posted in this thread (page 8, I think).
This is my first attemp with DVD Rebuilder or CCE.

OS: Windows XP Home
DVD Rebuilder .38
CCE SP Trial 2.67
Mode CCE
One Click Mode

PHASE II Encoding
- Creating M2V for VTS_xx segment yy
Dialog Title "Limitation of Trial Version"
Error Message: Can't open ed file.

Clicked through all these dialogs then get "Nothing to do" error.

Probably a stupid error, but I can't find the answer. I have read up through page 12 so far of this thread.

Any suggestions?

Paced
15th April 2004, 02:53
Originally posted by danjx
Sigh, I need help. I have used instructions for install and usage that were posted in this thread (page 8, I think).
This is my first attemp with DVD Rebuilder or CCE.

OS: Windows XP Home
DVD Rebuilder .38
CCE SP Trial 2.67
Mode CCE
One Click Mode

PHASE II Encoding
- Creating M2V for VTS_xx segment yy
Dialog Title "Limitation of Trial Version"
Error Message: Can't open ed file.

Clicked through all these dialogs then get "Nothing to do" error.

Probably a stupid error, but I can't find the answer. I have read up through page 12 so far of this thread.

Any suggestions?

I'm pretty sure with a trial version of CCE, you'll need to feed it through EclCCE for it to work, so go here and download it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46664

Once you've downloaded and extracted it, double click on EclCCE.exe and show it where your CCE executable is (when you open EclCCE for the first time, it will ask you to point to your CCE executable).

Once you've done that, open DVD Rebuilder, then change your "Path to CCE SP (New)" to your EclCCE.exe. That should do it, I hope :)

HarryM
15th April 2004, 09:06
@jdobbs:

Can you add a "auto power OFF" feature, like vdubmod, please?

Do you plan a AC3 reencoding support in DVD-RB (AC3-5.1 384kbps > AC3-2.1 192kbps, AC3-5.1 448kbps > AC3-2.1 224kbps, etc.)??? :D

jdobbs
15th April 2004, 11:07
Originally posted by HarryM
@jdobbs:

Can you add a "auto power OFF" feature, like vdubmod, please?

Do you plan a AC3 reencoding support in DVD-RB (AC3-5.1 384kbps > AC3-2.1 192kbps, AC3-5.1 448kbps > AC3-2.1 224kbps, etc.)??? :D I hadn't planned to. But I wouldn't rule it out after all the bugs are worked out.

danjx
16th April 2004, 01:40
Originally posted by Paced
I'm pretty sure with a trial version of CCE, you'll need to feed it through EclCCE for it to work, so go here and download it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46664

Once you've downloaded and extracted it, double click on EclCCE.exe and show it where your CCE executable is (when you open EclCCE for the first time, it will ask you to point to your CCE executable).

Once you've done that, open DVD Rebuilder, then change your "Path to CCE SP (New)" to your EclCCE.exe. That should do it, I hope :)

Yes, that was the problem. Thanks for the help and thanks to jdobbs for a wonderful program. I have now completed my first backup using DVD Rebuilder, and I'm looking forward to many more.

unplugged
18th April 2004, 00:45
Do you think to implement (soon) VIDEO_TS and menu videos re-encoding?

Joergen
18th April 2004, 01:26
I think multiangle should come before menu encoding in jdobbs todo-list. imho leaving the menus alone (only stripping some parts when applicable) gives a backup a better feel of quality instead of compressing the menu and having it all blocky (as it usually would be).

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 01:51
Originally posted by Joergen
I think multiangle should come before menu encoding in jdobbs todo-list. imho leaving the menus alone (only stripping some parts when applicable) gives a backup a better feel of quality instead of compressing the menu and having it all blocky (as it usually would be). BOV and Multiangle are the most important projects right now (after bugs) -- they've both slipped because of the dreaded stuttering, error '5', and error '9' -- right now I'm working the #0003 and #0004 errors that I've captured. I think I've found and fixed the #0003. I've known for some time what was causing the #0004 but it takes some time to implement the fix.

Joergen
18th April 2004, 03:20
Good to hear you're crushing those pesty roaches.

I've only seen one BOV title since the Matrix that I know of, Lion King 3: Hakuna Matata. It has a movie-length mickey-mouse-hunt thingie that would be a good test disc I think.

jdobbs
18th April 2004, 03:37
Originally posted by Joergen
Good to hear you're crushing those pesty roaches.

I've only seen one BOV title since the Matrix that I know of, Lion King 3: Hakuna Matata. It has a movie-length mickey-mouse-hunt thingie that would be a good test disc I think. They exist quite frequently, but I've masked most of them by doing a one-for-one copy of VTSs that are smaller than 50MB. The one that is really common is the audio channel and screen adjustments that come on a lot of discs.

ADDED: BTW, after I get BOV working, menus should be fairly easy. But since I don't like ugly menus, I hesitate to encode them. The exception that keeps me thinking about it are those long space-taking menus that some have reported.

Joergen
18th April 2004, 18:35
Originally posted by jdobbs

ADDED: BTW, after I get BOV working, menus should be fairly easy. But since I don't like ugly menus, I hesitate to encode them. The exception that keeps me thinking about it are those long space-taking menus that some have reported.

Yep in R2 discs there's often two or three languages in the menus so its 3X the space. But I'd say most often menus are around 200-300MB and you can strip them down with other tools.

I was going to backup a disc just now but it has multi-angles. Multiangle for dvd-rb is my #1 want at the moment :)

But for now I will reauthor it in shrink and let rb do the encoding. I lose the menu but I gain in quality and ease of use (default audio and sub selected via shrink) so its a different kind of good.

NEW: I noticed the disc only has angles in an extra that is a meager 120MB in size. If I blank it with titlesetblanker dvd-rb still complains about the angles. Would there be a way to kill the angle detection of dvd-rb or fool it? I checked the other thread about this but I dont have dvdremake yet.

jdobbs
19th April 2004, 18:30
Originally posted by Joergen
Yep in R2 discs there's often two or three languages in the menus so its 3X the space. But I'd say most often menus are around 200-300MB and you can strip them down with other tools.

I was going to backup a disc just now but it has multi-angles. Multiangle for dvd-rb is my #1 want at the moment :)

But for now I will reauthor it in shrink and let rb do the encoding. I lose the menu but I gain in quality and ease of use (default audio and sub selected via shrink) so its a different kind of good.

NEW: I noticed the disc only has angles in an extra that is a meager 120MB in size. If I blank it with titlesetblanker dvd-rb still complains about the angles. Would there be a way to kill the angle detection of dvd-rb or fool it? I checked the other thread about this but I dont have dvdremake yet. You'd have to change the IFO. Or you could remove the VTS from the directory, set the DVD-RB output size to max-120MB, copy the VTS back into the final output directory, followed by an IFOEDIT "Get VTS Sectors".

airplanedude
19th April 2004, 20:50
Hi all:

Firstly, thanks very much to jdobbs for taking all the effort to provide such software.
Seems I do experience the same problem as cdburner previously did.
Having also studied the CCE threads, I did not find something which could have gone wrong; I followed all the recommendations as good as I could.
When encoding the DVD "Pulp Fiction" (German version, RC2) CCE runs into a freeze always at the same position of the file (Up to the second three times so far). During this freeze, the programm seems to be stuck in some kind of loop keeping processor load up while not making any progress. Happens for both one-click and three-click. There is no failure message coming up.

Here's what I got...

Pentium IV-M 1.8 GHz 512 MB RAM WinXP (and yes, it is rockstable, at least with other demanding apps :) )
DVD-R 0.41 and 0.40 (happens for both)
CCE SP 2.66.01.07 Trial
eclCCE 1.81

Here's the portion of the rebuilder.ecl file for which CCE freezes, in case it is useful:
title=V01002800001029
aud_out=0
vaf_file=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.vaf
aud_file=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=576
frame_rate_idx=3
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=723
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=1
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
offset_line=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
quality_prec=24
vid_file0=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.m2v
vid_file1=D:\CONVERT\D2VAVS\V01002800001029.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
video_type=4
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=10
vbr_pass=2
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

If someone could give me a hint what I am doing wrong I would highly appreciate it; I don't know what to to any further and I've already worn out the search button.
I'll now give CCE 2.50 a try.
Again, thanks for all your time.

Cheers,
airplanedude


[EDIT]
Darn, I just saw that I inadvertently replied to the wrong thread confused by the Abundance of windows I had opened. :(
In order not to do a cross posting I will leave it as-is for now. Sorry.

Joergen
20th April 2004, 02:12
Originally posted by jdobbs
You'd have to change the IFO. Or you could remove the VTS from the directory, set the DVD-RB output size to max-120MB, copy the VTS back into the final output directory, followed by an IFOEDIT "Get VTS Sectors".

Ah clever stuff! So DVD-RB wont mind a referenced VTS not being there?
Also I think the angles of a title are mentioned in the video_ts.ifo so this might involve some more trickery?

I tried to do a similar stunt to SW Ep1 R2 bonus disc but it gives the runtime error 9 as soon as you hit prepare (with or without editing the titles) so I cant do that disc yet. But I this other disc with the 120MB angle-extra that I can test with.

EDIT: I just stripped angles from the main movie of SW Ep1 R2 without editing the VIDEO_TS.IFO and it dvd-rb doesnt seem to mind :) (preparing now)

jdobbs
20th April 2004, 02:54
Originally posted by Joergen
Ah clever stuff! So DVD-RB wont mind a referenced VTS not being there?
Also I think the angles of a title are mentioned in the video_ts.ifo so this might involve some more trickery?

I tried to do a similar stunt to SW Ep1 R2 bonus disc but it gives the runtime error 9 as soon as you hit prepare (with or without editing the titles) so I cant do that disc yet. But I this other disc with the 120MB angle-extra that I can test with.

EDIT: I just stripped angles from the main movie of SW Ep1 R2 without editing the VIDEO_TS.IFO and it dvd-rb doesnt seem to mind :) (preparing now) DVD-RB only looks in the individual IFOs for multiangles and interleaving. It won't matter soon enough, as it'll be supporting those. Frankly I thought it would have happened before now -- but I want to make the "basic" engine solid first.

Joergen
20th April 2004, 03:02
Originally posted by jdobbs
DVD-RB only looks in the individual IFOs for multiangles and interleaving. It won't matter soon enough, as it'll be supporting those. Frankly I thought it would have happened before now -- but I want to make the "basic" engine solid first.

You're making amazing progress daily! I hope you can breathe a sigh of relief soon now that most of the problems are history, and find new energy to tackle all possible multiangle/branching dvd weirdness out there.

jdobbs
20th April 2004, 03:12
Originally posted by Joergen
You're making amazing progress daily! I hope you can breathe a sigh of relief soon now that most of the problems are history, and find new energy to tackle all possible multiangle/branching dvd weirdness out there. Thanks. I think the two biggies left are #0003 and #0004... they are a pain to fix and I keep putting them off.

mayhem2408
21st April 2004, 06:16
@jdobbs

Love the work so far. It's really comming along.

Quick observation. When I am encoding with CCE, I notice that while CCE is doing the encoding, ReBuilder.exe is consuming between 7-11% CPU usage and CCE is consuming the rest. What might ReBuilder be doing?

quantum
21st April 2004, 15:28
Originally posted by mayhem2408
Quick observation. When I am encoding with CCE, I notice that while CCE is doing the encoding, ReBuilder.exe is consuming between 7-11% CPU usage and CCE is consuming the rest. What might ReBuilder be doing? Are you running CCE in low priority? If so, switch DVD RB to low priority in Task Manager if you really care about the 7-11%.

@wmansir: I've seen this a few times. Possible candidate for the FAQ.

jdobbs
21st April 2004, 21:11
Originally posted by mayhem2408
@jdobbs

Love the work so far. It's really comming along.

Quick observation. When I am encoding with CCE, I notice that while CCE is doing the encoding, ReBuilder.exe is consuming between 7-11% CPU usage and CCE is consuming the rest. What might ReBuilder be doing? It doing nothing more than regular checking to see if CCE is complete. I think quantum is on the right track.

totya
21st April 2004, 23:02
0.42 beta

Process..ok.
Encode..ok.
Rebuild..error.

The message (modal box) : DVD rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error# 0004. Process must abort.

Best regards :

Totya

dancis
21st April 2004, 23:06
Here also still a buffer overflow when rebuilding , did a clean install of windows xp , al programs and still a buffer overflow. But i saw jdobbs is working on this problem as we speak!!

So i will just sit back and wait untill it is solved , i know jdobbs will solve this to! He is the master of one click encoders !!! :sly:

totya
21st April 2004, 23:18
oopsss...

I see new VIDEO_TS directory (size is very small), ok, Power DVD Play.

The menu is ok, but when main film is start, I see message on the DVD player screen : Script error. There is no funciton named "mpeg2source" (...\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS, line5)

Totya

Joergen
21st April 2004, 23:21
He sure is (the master).

On a positive note, I'm doing the latest Roman Polanski masterpiece* that is long as h*ll and the reduction is 62% with only 150MB of menu on the disc and one audio and sub track, but the quality is excellent!

Today; The Pianist*. Tomorrow; Schindler's List. The day after that; Suicide. ;)

No, I like factual drama features.

Joergen
21st April 2004, 23:22
Originally posted by totya
There is no funciton named "mpeg2source" (...\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS, line5)

Hehe.. check the FAQ in this forum. You have the Avisynth script error.

I must admit I got that the first time I tried dvd-rb but I previewed the first .m2v created in DVD2AVI and saw the error.

philos31
21st April 2004, 23:22
Originally posted by totya
oopsss...

I see new VIDEO_TS directory (size is very small), ok, Power DVD Play.

The menu is ok, but when main film is start, I see message on the DVD player screen : Script error. There is no funciton named "mpeg2source" (...\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.AVS, line5)

Totya
That is the dreaded avisynth error :)
Goto Options, Setup and give the path to mpeg2dec3dg
and select add to AVS file. That should do the trick.

If not search your drive for other (older) versions of avisynth and un-install them...

Edit: Hmm to late, allready got that answer :D

totya
21st April 2004, 23:23
Hi!

"...clean install of windows xp..."

My all programs works correctly, i should think, my XP system is very good.

"...wait untill it is solved..."

Ok, Thanks!

Totya

KungFuCow
21st April 2004, 23:30
Originally posted by totya
Hi!

"...clean install of windows xp..."

My all programs works correctly, i should think, my XP system is very good.

"...wait untill it is solved..."

Ok, Thanks!

Totya

Dude.. read the FAQ, read the manual. Someone above just stated what you need to do to fix your problem. IT IS AN AVISYNTH SETUP PROBLEM. Its not new, everyone here has seen it before. Just because you have a clean install of XP doesnt mean that DVD-RBs enviroment is set up correctly.

totya
21st April 2004, 23:47
Originally posted by KungFuCow
Dude.. read the FAQ, read the manual. Someone above just stated what you need to do to fix your problem. IT IS AN AVISYNTH SETUP PROBLEM. Its not new, everyone here has seen it before. Just because you have a clean install of XP doesnt mean that DVD-RBs enviroment is set up correctly.

Thanks many reply!

Ok, I see, this is setup problem, my answer is write BEFORE get many else answer...

If this path setting very important, then the program why not says, or I think if this settings value is null, then all process button : disabled ;)

Thanks many answer!

Totya

dancis
21st April 2004, 23:49
Originally posted by philos31
That is the dreaded avisynth error :)
Goto Options, Setup and give the path to mpeg2dec3dg
and select add to AVS file. That should do the trick.


Allready did this , and i still get a buffer overflow. I just have to wait untill jdobbs solves the problems with error 0004

borgraf
22nd April 2004, 00:32
Originally posted by jdobbs
It doing nothing more than regular checking to see if CCE is complete. I think quantum is on the right track.

Firstly, greetings from the PAL region. I now have very good looking backup copies of my favorite films thanks to this great app of yours jdobbs :)

I also noticed that CCE (SP 2.67 - normal priority) was running a bit slow with ReBuilder (0.42). My CCE speed with ReBuilder is a steady 2.18 on my HyperThreading enabled P4 (220*14), and Rebuilder is using about 25% CPU. I tested aborting ReBuilder, and the speed of the CCE segment that was running would slowly rise from 2.18 to a more normal 2.57. Changing the priority of either or both gave no (significant) difference in speed. With HT disabled the speed is 2.32 in both cases, and ReBuilder uses about 1% CPU.

Could it be a hyperthreading issue with ReBuilder? Maybe someone else with a HT enabled machine (and SP 2.67 ?) can verify that it's not a fluke with my machine, though I verified the phenomenon with a reboot and encoding the same segment.

I know this issue is nowhere near as important as bug squashing, but perhaps somewhere down the road...

Keep up the good work jdobbs, you are paving a road to immortality with this thing :D

totya
22nd April 2004, 08:17
Hi all!

Well, prepare, encode ok, total time 6 hours, but PHASE III dont't work.
Program says (error dialog box) : runtime error '75' : Path file access error.

Progress : V:\VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB

If I'm press "ok" on the error dialog box, the program is closed.

My "V:" drive is virtual drive, mounted from ISO.

This ISO not original DVD, this DVD image created by DVD-shrink (re authoring mode), because i don't need menu, and all subtitles.

Please correct this error. I'm waiting :)

(If mounted original ISO, process starting, and few times and program says : "DVD rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow...error #0003...)

Thanks :

Totya

wmansir
22nd April 2004, 09:31
Don't use a virtual drive. Follow the instructions in the stickie, or the readme, and extract the files in FILE mode. You shouldn't have to start over, just point your source directory to wherever you extract the files and try to rebuild again.

totya
22nd April 2004, 10:48
Originally posted by wmansir
Don't use a virtual drive. Follow the instructions in the stickie, or the readme, and extract the files in FILE mode. You shouldn't have to start over, just point your source directory to wherever you extract the files and try to rebuild again.


Hi!

Your answer is very bad.

The readme :

"1. First, use DVD-Decrypter to rip the entire DVD, not just the movie to your
hard drive. Use file mode and take note of the output directory. You will need
it for DVD-RB."

Please, if my DVD is mounted virutal drive (from ISO) then that equally ripp in file mode (!).

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.
No problem, I see this porgram is very beta. Please developed it and correct it.

Best regards :

Totya

GizmoDerMokwai
22nd April 2004, 11:14
nice to see the new feature in 0.43b, but i'm really really really needing Multi-Angle Processing :D Just can't wait to back up my STar Wars and Shrek DVD using CCE...

influenza
22nd April 2004, 11:17
The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.

I have no clue what you mean. But if you rip in filemode you'll have all files that are on the dvd, so also the menu. (just an exact copy of the video_ts folder).

I do agree that mounting an iso is a way better solution than filemode. it's a afer, more convenient method. No risk of loosing files, deleting them accidently etc.

influenza
22nd April 2004, 11:19
nice to see the new feature in 0.43b, but i'm really really really needing Multi-Angle Processing Just can't wait to back up my STar Wars and Shrek DVD using CCE...

both titles have just very simple angles used for foreign language credits. if you can miss that just strip them out using ifoedit first and after that process with dvd-rb.

Or use the big3 method, which is perfectly capable of doing multi angled titles.

Doom9
22nd April 2004, 12:44
nice to see the new feature in 0.43b, but i'm really really really needing Multi-Angle Processing Patience is a virtue ;)

jdobbs
22nd April 2004, 13:25
Originally posted by totya
Hi!

Your answer is very bad.

The readme :

"1. First, use DVD-Decrypter to rip the entire DVD, not just the movie to your
hard drive. Use file mode and take note of the output directory. You will need
it for DVD-RB."

Please, if my DVD is mounted virutal drive (from ISO) then that equally ripp in file mode (!).

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.
No problem, I see this porgram is very beta. Please developed it and correct it.

Best regards :

Totya 1. No, it isn't equally the same -- as is proven by the error you are receiving.
2. "The problem, if DVD not contains menu" -- ???

RB
22nd April 2004, 13:50
The default setting for DVDDecrypter File Mode is to select only "main movie" files (largest VTS). I guess totya just used this default so it didn't rip the entire DVD but just the largest VTS.

nwg
22nd April 2004, 14:08
Originally posted by totya

The problem, if DVD not contains menu (VIDEO_TS.VOB), the DVD Rebuilder don't work.


DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files. You don't need a video_ts.vob but will need video_ts.ifo.

As already mentioned. it is the actual ISO causing the problem. It needs to be ripped in file mode to a directory (all files with the menu or just the film plus the video_ts.ifo)

totya
22nd April 2004, 17:45
Originally posted by nwg
DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files. You don't need a video_ts.vob but will need video_ts.ifo.

As already mentioned. it is the actual ISO causing the problem. It needs to be ripped in file mode to a directory (all files with the menu or just the film plus the video_ts.ifo)


Hi!

Very thank you, your information is very important for me!
"DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files."

Well, I see, what the problem. Developers! :)
The DVDRebuilder works bad, WRITE (WRITE!) -> in the DVD source directory. Why?

This file is VIDEO_TS.VOB
File Size is 0. :)

This file already found in the destination directory.
I think this is simple programming error. This file created 2x.
The DVD Rebilder why write in the DVD source directory? :)

So not good ISO mode. This drive is READONLY.
I think, if this error correct it, this program works correctly if source is ISO.

Many error...but program even early beta...never mind!

Thanks many reply!

Totya

rui
22nd April 2004, 17:52
Remember that the author is spending MUCH of it's time off developing this wonderfull tool for FREE!

If you aren't happy, then don't use it. Or create your own.

But don't post messages like the above one.

Joergen
22nd April 2004, 17:54
Heh looks like somebody managed to do the sourcepath\video_ts thingie that I reported on to jdobbs :rolleyes:

Thats what designers throughout history have called "idiot proofing".

quantum
22nd April 2004, 18:53
I think he's trying to describe a potential cause for the elusive errors that occur when reading from an ISO mounted drive. Also be aware english is probably not his first language so give him a break.

jdobbs
22nd April 2004, 20:00
Originally posted by totya
Hi!

Very thank you, your information is very important for me!
"DVD-RB works fine with film only DVD files. I have done them on reauthored Shrink files."

Well, I see, what the problem. Developers! :)
The DVDRebuilder works bad, WRITE (WRITE!) -> in the DVD source directory. Why?

This file is VIDEO_TS.VOB
File Size is 0. :)

This file already found in the destination directory.
I think this is simple programming error. This file created 2x.
The DVD Rebilder why write in the DVD source directory? :)

So not good ISO mode. This drive is READONLY.
I think, if this error correct it, this program works correctly if source is ISO.

Many error...but program even early beta...never mind!

Thanks many reply!

Totya My bad. DVD Rebuilder can't correct your inability to read instructions.

@quantum

Sorry, I'm not very inclined to be sympathetic today. Maybe if this person had spent the last several hundred of his/her own unpaid free time developing something to try and simplify the process for a lot of people and give them a quality backup -- then and only then would I be tempted to give that person a break.

nwg
22nd April 2004, 20:37
Jdobbs, ignore this person. You are doing a wonderful job.

totya
22nd April 2004, 21:35
Hi all!

Ok, I not say more bug...and solving (!). Else I'm programming too... about 15 years... I'm happy, if any people send me bug reports, or solving (!)... this is problem? this is problem?

I'm not happy. Simple file duplication bug, and this program not working from ISO...many people say, read readme...

Totya

philos31
22nd April 2004, 21:40
Originally posted by jdobbs
My bad. DVD Rebuilder can't correct your inability to read instructions.


:D LOL very much LOL hehehe

Let us ignore this Troll!

About the new "release" I am so very happy about the half D1 Half bitrate.
I just did my Ong-Bak DVD again and got 16% extra for the main movie...

This program gets better and better by the hour!

I just can't imagine what the 1.0 version will look like :p

KungFuCow
22nd April 2004, 21:54
Originally posted by totya
Hi all!

Ok, I not say more bug...and solving (!). Else I'm programming too... about 15 years... I'm happy, if any people send me bug reports, or solving (!)... this is problem? this is problem?

I'm not happy. Simple file duplication bug, and this program not working from ISO...many people say, read readme...

Totya

I use virtual drives exclusively mounted with Alcohol 120% and I have never had the problem you are having.

DDogg
22nd April 2004, 22:23
Originally posted by KungFuCow -
I use virtual drives exclusively mounted with Alcohol 120% and I have never had the problem you are having.I said that also, until ntsc "revolutions". If somebody does not get the 75 on this title using XP and alcohol or [daemon] tools, please let us know. Perhaps it is some machine specific setting causing the problem? I can replicate this error on demand, anytime.

Let's try to get this thread back on a constructive road. :)

/Add: Disclaimer - ISO mounted source is not officially supported by DVD-RB.

mayhem2408
22nd April 2004, 23:18
Originally posted by totya

The DVDRebuilder works bad, WRITE (WRITE!) -> in the DVD source directory. Why?


I've just mounted an ISO image created with DVD Decrypter and ran ReBuilder over it. No problems at all.

Turambar
22nd April 2004, 23:26
same problem here with Matrix Revolutions and Gothika, of all things.:scared:

The weird thing is --- with early versions of DVD Rebuilder (i.e., "16"), I could run AnyDVD and then have Rebuilder read directly from the source and go right through the rebuild phase without any errors.

No biggy --- It's just that ripping the files to the hard disk and then running Rebuilder takes longer??

BTW, a fantastic program, Jerry! I sent you $15 via Pay Pal last week.:D

jdobbs
22nd April 2004, 23:28
Originally posted by philos31
:D LOL very much LOL hehehe

Let us ignore this Troll!

About the new "release" I am so very happy about the half D1 Half bitrate.
I just did my Ong-Bak DVD again and got 16% extra for the main movie...

This program gets better and better by the hour!

I just can't imagine what the 1.0 version will look like :p I was thinking I might use the Microsoft strategy and call the first release v6.0...

jdobbs
22nd April 2004, 23:31
Originally posted by DDogg
I said that also, until ntsc "revolutions". If somebody does not get the 75 on this title using XP and alcohol or deamon tools, please let us know. Perhaps it is some machine specific setting causing the problem? I can replicate this error on demand, anytime.

Let's try to get this thread back on a constructive road. :)

/Add: Disclaimer - ISO mounted source is not officially supported by DVD-RB. I'm picking this DVD up later today (I got two donations today!) and will mount it using daemon tools. I'm kinda' getting to like the "mounting" concept... I've always just used file mode in the past.

I'll find out what's causing it and fix it -- I can't imagine right now... I pretty much just open the files and read from them...

mpennel
22nd April 2004, 23:46
Yes, supporting mounted images would be great! I mount almost all my decrypted images, and until now, it wasn't a problem. Like someone mentioned previously, Matrix Revolutions gives an error when mounted, and yes, DVDRB tries to write the file "VIDEO_TS.VOB" to the virtual drive, which causes the error. The VIDEO_TS.VOB file is 0 bytes, but it is there nonetheless after I set my source to files on my HD instead of the virtual drive.

Keep up the good work! It is turning into a very amazing, and useful program!

Mark

jdobbs
22nd April 2004, 23:56
Originally posted by mpennel
Yes, supporting mounted images would be great! I mount almost all my decrypted images, and until now, it wasn't a problem. Like someone mentioned previously, Matrix Revolutions gives an error when mounted, and yes, DVDRB tries to write the file "VIDEO_TS.VOB" to the virtual drive, which causes the error. The VIDEO_TS.VOB file is 0 bytes, but it is there nonetheless after I set my source to files on my HD instead of the virtual drive.

Keep up the good work! It is turning into a very amazing, and useful program!

Mark Trys to write to the virtual drive??? I must have missed that... Are you saying the original source didn't have a VIDEO_TS.VOB and my code created one??? That's odd.

quantum
22nd April 2004, 23:57
Originally posted by DDogg
I said that also, until ntsc "revolutions". If somebody does not get the 75 on this title using XP and alcohol or deamon tools, please Does that disk have any zero length files on it?

wmansir
22nd April 2004, 23:57
Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm picking this DVD up later today (I got two donations today!) and will mount it using daemon tools. I'm kinda' getting to like the "mounting" concept... I've always just used file mode in the past.

I'll find out what's causing it and fix it -- I can't imagine right now... I pretty much just open the files and read from them...

Mounting is great, especially if you don't want people tampering with the source or missing files.

Anyway, before I saw your response I started this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74924) to track this problem. We can continue this particular discussion there. Hopefully you will be able to recreate the error and it won't be necessary.

jdobbs
23rd April 2004, 00:09
Originally posted by wmansir
Mounting is great, especially if you don't want people tampering with the source or missing files.

Anyway, before I saw your response I started this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74924) to track this problem. We can continue this particular discussion there. Hopefully you will be able to recreate the error and it won't be necessary. Actually I think I owe Totya an apology... I stand in humble embarrassment.

I don't think I understood what he said -- and it appears he was right. I have a "copy file" routine that attempts to copy from the source disc (mounted in this case) to the destination. It made the assumption there was always a VIDEO_TS.VOB file -- so when it tried to "open" the original that didn't exist, it (by default) attempted to create it in the source path.

I may be a smart-ass -- but I will also admit when I'm wrong.

quantum
23rd April 2004, 00:12
Yeah, that's why I made the "english is not his first language" comment since it seemed everyone was not at all understanding what he was saying. But it's nice to see a retraction and at least another bug is being crushed.

mpennel
23rd April 2004, 00:13
Yes, it would appear that it is trying to write to the virtual drive! I'm comparing both the original mounted image files and the files in the VIDEO_TS folder on my hard drive after REBUILD, and the mounted image's files have no VIDEO_TS.VOB file, but the folder on my hard drive has it. Like I said, it is 0 bytes, but it is there.

Mark

edit: duh, I see you've already found the source of the problem.

robw
23rd April 2004, 01:19
welcome aboard Totya

I'm sure glad I didn't fall in the trap of jumping on your post. Let me just say that we welcome you here and hope you will contribute more in the future. Your English may not be perfect but none of us are perfect either. Your debugging was great! Thanks so much. I am one of those folks who really enjoys the diversity of this board and your message will be a solid reminder to me.

DDogg
23rd April 2004, 02:54
quantum, sorry I'm late replying. Sounds like it is a moot point now, but yes, as you suggested there is one 0 byte file


Directory of I:\VIDEO_TS

02/02/2004 02:06 PM <DIR> .
02/02/2004 02:06 PM <DIR> ..
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 12,288 VIDEO_TS.BUP
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 12,288 VIDEO_TS.IFO
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 102,400 VTS_01_0.BUP
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 102,400 VTS_01_0.IFO
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 576,479,232 VTS_01_0.VOB
01/21/2004 12:26 PM 1,073,739,776 VTS_01_1.VOB
01/21/2004 12:27 PM 1,073,739,776 VTS_01_2.VOB
01/21/2004 12:27 PM 625,115,136 VTS_01_3.VOB
01/21/2004 12:29 PM 1,073,739,776 VTS_01_4.VOB
01/21/2004 12:31 PM 1,073,739,776 VTS_01_5.VOB
01/21/2004 12:32 PM 1,073,739,776 VTS_01_6.VOB
01/21/2004 12:33 PM 178,415,616 VTS_01_7.VOB
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 18,432 VTS_02_0.BUP
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 18,432 VTS_02_0.IFO
02/02/2004 02:06 PM 0 VTS_02_0.VOB
01/21/2004 12:33 PM 203,040,768 VTS_02_1.VOB
16 File(s) 6,952,015,872 bytes

RB
23rd April 2004, 08:25
Ah, Warner DVDs :) No, those 0 byte files shouldn't be included in the DVD-RB output. They are not referenced anywhere anyway.

dvdRENEGADE
23rd April 2004, 11:44
Originally posted by totya
So not good ISO mode. This drive is READONLY.
I think, if this error correct it, this program works correctly if source is ISO.

Thanks for solving this.
dvdRENEGADE

issa
24th April 2004, 04:00
@totya

If your DVD didn't have menu, I assume it is a DVD-5 disc.
There is no point to recompress a disc that already fit
in a DVD-R or DVD+R.

If I am wrong, please let me know the title of that
DVD-9 disc, I am interesting in the company release
a commercial DVD that don't create a menu for it's
DVD. Thanks.

I am agree that the program should open the source
files and directory in ready only mode. The program
should not try to change the source files.

issa.

rayvt
24th April 2004, 04:44
Bug in dvd-rbv044:
Tried to do 2 movies, Chicago & Monty Python. For both, when I click PREPARE, I get a popup saying "Illegal video GOP size. No I-Frame found for 51 frames." And I can't abort it, have to go to task manager and kill it---upon which it complains that I'm supposed to use ABORT. Which I can't because of the popup. Cute.

jdobbs
24th April 2004, 10:45
Originally posted by rayvt
Bug in dvd-rbv044:
Tried to do 2 movies, Chicago & Monty Python. For both, when I click PREPARE, I get a popup saying "Illegal video GOP size. No I-Frame found for 51 frames." And I can't abort it, have to go to task manager and kill it---upon which it complains that I'm supposed to use ABORT. Which I can't because of the popup. Cute. Ahhh... that was some test error code I put in. I was trying to figure out where the "subscript out of range" error was coming from. Now I know... I had made the assumption that a long stream of video without an I-Frame would never happen!!! In the last version this would have been the infrequent but consistent "runtime error '9'" I've been looking for. Not very elegant, though. It should have exited corrected.

totya
24th April 2004, 10:52
Hi all!

My english is very poor, sorry.

quantum : "english is not his first language". This is true. Thanks.

Developers, thanks a bug fix.

Totya

totya
24th April 2004, 11:03
Originally posted by issa
@totya

If your DVD didn't have menu, I assume it is a DVD-5 disc.
There is no point to recompress a disc that already fit
in a DVD-R or DVD+R.

If I am wrong, please let me know the title of that
DVD-9 disc, I am interesting in the company release
a commercial DVD that don't create a menu for it's
DVD. Thanks.

I am agree that the program should open the source
files and directory in ready only mode. The program
should not try to change the source files.

issa.


Hi!

Please read my full messages. I think this is problem for you, my english is poor...

My first step, reauthoring DVD with DVD shrink.
(DVD shrink is very correct program - i think the best, but if compression is too high, the result film quality is very poor.)

The result is DVD files, which "not contain menu" / "DVD without menu", or extras, but size is very often over 4,35 gbyte. The latter 7 gbyte...

"The program
should not try to change the source files."
See above, 0.44 bug fix list.

Sorry my poor english.

Totya

jdobbs
24th April 2004, 11:27
Originally posted by rayvt
Bug in dvd-rbv044:
Tried to do 2 movies, Chicago & Monty Python. For both, when I click PREPARE, I get a popup saying "Illegal video GOP size. No I-Frame found for 51 frames." And I can't abort it, have to go to task manager and kill it---upon which it complains that I'm supposed to use ABORT. Which I can't because of the popup. Cute. I think this may be a bug with DVD Decrypter. The example that I've found of this has one VTS that doesn't seem to be decrypted when I brought it down in ISO mode. If I mount that image and try to use DVD Decrypter again, it tells me that that VTS is still encrypted (but it can't decrypt). I looked at the VOBs with VOBEDIT and it definitely isn't a legal input stream.

The best I can do on this is tell you when you run into the error and you might then decrypt that DVD in file mode (I've never had this problem in hundreds of sessions using file mode). By the way, the ISO image is also unplayable.

EDIT: Well to make it even more confusing... if I run DVD Decrypter again (in file mode) against the bad ISO I created with DVD Decrypter, it tells me it can't decrypt -- but the bad VTS gets fixed... I repeat, though, this isn't a DVD-RB issue (except the fact that it isn't exiting properly -- I'll fix that).

jdobbs
24th April 2004, 11:57
I found this in the DVD Decrypter update logs:

Fixed: Big bug in ISO Read mode where files following 0 bytes files weren't decrypted

I went back and checked, and indeed, the problem I encountered was due to the fact that it followed a zero length file. If anyone gets this error UPGRADE YOUR VERSION OF DVD DECRYPTER TO V3.2.1.0.

robot1
24th April 2004, 12:08
Have you ever got an error 9 during the rebuild phase?
I'm doing another test, probably I'll report later if you need further info.

jdobbs
24th April 2004, 12:17
Originally posted by robot1
Have you ever got an error 9 during the rebuild phase?
I'm doing another test, probably I'll report later if you need further info. The error quoted above probably only relates to errors in the PREPARE phase -- but that definitely isn't a conclusive statement.

Joergen
24th April 2004, 19:01
While testing RBFarm I noticed that you can get error 9 with missing or incomplete sections. Having .mpv files instead of .m2v files also had something to do it.

issa
25th April 2004, 18:48
@Totya

I didn't get your first post.

issa.

totya
26th April 2004, 00:29
Hi all!

I think I'm found small bug in DVD rebuilder (0.44, but too 0.43...)
Example, I'm settings:

options/CCE options/ CCE SP checked (I'm use CCE SP 2.67.00.23 trial, with latest eclcce)

Well, if I'm set

options/CCE options/ advanced settings VBR passes

to 4 (four), I see when encoding progress, the real passes only 3 (three) etc...
In rebuilder.ini I see this section : "eclPasses=4"
In REBUILDER.ECL I see this section : "vbr_pass=3"

I think, the VAF creation is not pass.

Example, run eclcce (or cctspt.exe) open xxx.avi. I'm set VBR pass to 4.
I see, create vaf file, and pass 1,2,3,4 - total 4.

Under DVD rebuilder, the pass count number is not good, I think "pass value"="real value"-"1".

If user use CCE (SP), and after see this program (DVD rebuilder), and use it, the CCE pass number different of real.

My english is poor, sorry (but I think you see this)

Totya

djan
26th April 2004, 00:32
This is not a bug and it has been related many times. The vaf creation is counted as a pass. It's the first pass.

jdobbs
26th April 2004, 00:42
Originally posted by totya
If user use CCE (SP), and after see this program (DVD rebuilder), and use it, the CCE pass number different of real.


Totya DVD-RB uses a consistent pass indicator across any encoder. CCE's definition of passes is not correct. A pass that creates a .VAF is in reality a pass. Two pass encoding is 2 passes, not 3.

totya
26th April 2004, 22:41
Originally posted by djan
This is not a bug and it has been related many times. The vaf creation is counted as a pass. It's the first pass.

Ok, I see, thanks a reply...

Totya

totya
27th April 2004, 11:05
Hi all!

Well, I see my Thomson 72 cm television from DVD, I see DVD-R converted film (with DVD RB).
After few minutes...Oooppsss.. What's wrong? I see, the (original english) audio and video synchronization is not good. But true, the different is small. But I see, when speak people.
Possible source is too bad? I see original, there not bad is synchronization.
Well, this is DVD RB bug (or any external component).
The mpeg converter is bad? Not, I see 2 packer, CCE SP and ReJig.
What's wrong? I'm testing...testing...thinking...

My external software is your recommended, latest.

- DVD2AVI_Version=1.77.3dg1.0.0RC2

- MPEG2Dec3dg.dll (2003.10.02) (with DVD2AVIdg/MPEG2DECdg Decoding Fix)

- Avisynth 2.54


* Test 1. *

Ripped by DVD Decrypter to ISO / Movie only (reauthor by DVD shrink) see "original" too ISO.
See "down" the language 1. (Hu - 01) is good, but second language (En - 02) is bad.

1. "original"

DVD2AVI info :

256599 frame
v AC3 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 - 574 778 624 - 171:03


2. Converted with DVD Rebuilder 0.44 and CCE 4 pass (real 3 pass)

DVD2AVI info :

256599 frame
v AC3 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 - 574 777 280 - 171:03

The second language different size (!) see "original".


3. Converted with DVD Rebuilder 0.45 and ReJig.

DVD2AVI info :

256599 frame
v AC3 T02 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3 - 574 777 280

The second language too different size (!)
Equally too bad previous see 2.



I think (but not sure!) the audio/video synchronization error the reason possible different ac3 file size.
But sure, audio/video synchronization is not good.
---

If I'm ripped audio from converted and "original" with latest DVD decrypter instead of DVD2AVI, symptoms is equally.

Ok, converted "original" with DVD Shrink. The 2 audio size and contain - equally.
The DVD Shrink works correctly.

Please correct this problem, if this problem DVD Rebuilder program bug.

---

Newest test.

Really original DVD disc (with menu etc. - FULL) (name is T.F.E.).
This is my disc, I'm probe backup ;)

* Test 2. *

This is original disc, no authored, etc.
Ripped in FILE MODE (!) with dvd decrypter (v3.2.2.0)

This disc audio language : En1, En2, Hu, Cz (and many subtitles).

Let me see!

Compare the original and DVD-RB converted AC3 files.
Compress by ReJig - see above not compress program is the bad. (Now use ReJig, because lot of time)

Opppsss...this is not good...process and encode process ok, but next process show error message dialog :

Error 0006: DVD-RB has found an inconsistency in source data between the prepare and rebuild phases. Aborting.

Well, now lot of time. Test is end.

ReJig version is latest, "ReJig v0.5e by Nic".

Sorry my poor english.

Totya

GizmoDerMokwai
27th April 2004, 18:00
Transcoding...
-----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 22:14:27
- VTS_01: 2.904.229 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 153.270 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_05: 65.478 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 4.407 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: -25,2%
- Overall Bitrate : -1.332Kbs
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: -1/9.001/-1.332 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 7 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 22:21:33
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00


Had that nice percentage when trying to reduce LotR2SEE DVD1. Same with DVD2. Stripped all audiostream apart from the GERMAN one. Movie Duration for DVD1 ist 102Minutes, shell fit on a DVD5...
Tested that one only with dvdrb0.44, will test it with 0.45...

jdobbs
28th April 2004, 02:08
@totya

Wish I could understand you better. I've run DVD2AVI on a couple of originals and against the corresponding backups to see if there is a mismatch. The resulting ac3 files have matched exactly. I'm not sure what you're saying you've found???

totya
28th April 2004, 02:33
Originally posted by jdobbs
@totya

Wish I could understand you better. I've run DVD2AVI on a couple of originals and against the corresponding backups to see if there is a mismatch. The resulting ac3 files have matched exactly. I'm not sure what you're saying you've found???

Hi!

Yes, I'm found error. Audio/video synchronization not good in last DVD-RB backups.

Good audio from original (ac3 file), size is : 574 778 624
If I'm converted to DVD-R with DVD Shrink, size is same (good).
If I'm converted to DVD-R with DVD Rebuilder (with CCE or ReJig) this audio size is not good, size is 574 777 280. I think, this is error, cause of audio/video desynchronization.

If you don't understand my english, please ignore me.

Best regards :

Totya

fakerbaker
28th April 2004, 11:08
does anyone find that when fast forwarding on the final chapter it only goes so far before cutting short and returning to the main title screen.if the final chapter is played at normal speed it is all there and will play perfectly to the end.

msobetzko
28th April 2004, 14:29
Originally posted by fakerbaker
does anyone find that when fast forwarding on the final chapter it only goes so far before cutting short and returning to the main title screen.if the final chapter is played at normal speed it is all there and will play perfectly to the end.

Not specifically, but I do have problems with FForward/FRewind on some movies. The issue is not consistent across different movies, but when I attempt to rewind or forward across SOME (NOT ALL) chapter points the movie stops at the chapter points.

I have rebuilt the same movies numerous times with different versions as I was testing for stutter (at chapter points). The chapters that it happens on are consistent, fortunately the stutter is gone.

I have tested on two players, Pioneer and Panasonic.

Mike

Joergen
28th April 2004, 17:43
Originally posted by mayhem2408
Not sure if anymore is interested in this.
V0.50a (8/4/2004) Fixed a bug that was introduced a while ago when the Trackbars
and the Automatic finding of the Min and Max values for a VTS. It caused
the bitrates of the VTSs for extras to become the same instead of leaving
the percentages at the same as it is by default.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/jrevill/DVDRB_ECL_Optimiser_V0.50a.rar 226K


I totally missed this great tool earlier (like most people!). You should post this in a new thread dedicated to ECL Optimizer. I've just used it on a title where DVD-RB's half bitrate option didnt apply and RB-Opt couldnt save the files due to a bug.

Your tool is very sophisticated and gives all the neat features like setting more passes for low bitrate and 1 pass for half-d1 (that can avoid CCE errors).

Great job!

geffroman
15th May 2004, 02:16
jdobbs...

I have been watching your progress from the beginning... I decided to wait until DVD-RB was at a level that a knuckle head like me could safely use the proggie...

I installed 048 per your instructions with CCE SP 2.50/ECLCCE and ReJig... Not one problem... My second project was a 5 disc batch processing of the whole Season of the new Law & Order... In my opinion Batch Processing is the ONLY thing that makes CCE tolerable... So Now I get the benefits of the best encoder with NO hassle on my part...

Thank you... where and how do I donate...?

viper315
15th May 2004, 02:32
Adding an option to be able to get rid of certain audio from a DVD would be nice. I noticed on one of the DVDs I did it had both 5.1 and 2.0 audio and I could not tell what was what to be able to remove the 2.0, this would in turn increase the bitrate meaning better quality. You can remove audio now but it just says english or like that deosn't specify. Is there any way this can be added to a future version? So that don't have to use DVDshrink 1st. Great program otherwise. Viper315

jdobbs
15th May 2004, 03:43
Originally posted by geffroman
jdobbs...

I have been watching your progress from the beginning... I decided to wait until DVD-RB was at a level that a knuckle head like me could safely use the proggie...

I installed 048 per your instructions with CCE SP 2.50/ECLCCE and ReJig... Not one problem... My second project was a 5 disc batch processing of the whole Season of the new Law & Order... In my opinion Batch Processing is the ONLY thing that makes CCE tolerable... So Now I get the benefits of the best encoder with NO hassle on my part...

Thank you... where and how do I donate...? Thanks. You can donate by selecting "About" from the menu and pushing the "DONATE" button. All donations are truly appreciated, it helps me explain to my wife why I'm sitting at my computer all the time!

jdobbs
15th May 2004, 03:46
Originally posted by viper315
Adding an option to be able to get rid of certain audio from a DVD would be nice. I noticed on one of the DVDs I did it had both 5.1 and 2.0 audio and I could not tell what was what to be able to remove the 2.0, this would in turn increase the bitrate meaning better quality. You can remove audio now but it just says english or like that deosn't specify. Is there any way this can be added to a future version? So that don't have to use DVDshrink 1st. Great program otherwise. Viper315 I'm a little confused. It tells you whether it is 2 channel or 5.1 in the audio selection listbox.

geffroman
15th May 2004, 04:10
Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks. You can donate by selecting "About" from the menu and pushing the "DONATE" button. All donations are truly appreciated, it helps me explain to my wife why I'm sitting at my computer all the time! Thanks for making the donation part easy too... Donation sent... Will do it again as development continues...

Thanks again for making CCE something I will use...

jdobbs
15th May 2004, 04:42
It warms my heart to see the power of CCE start opening to the masses. It has been the encoder of choice only for the geeks <cough - like me> for way too long.

colinhunt
15th May 2004, 11:11
Jdobbs,

thank you very, very much for this brilliant piece of software. I've been waiting for ages for someone to create a simple to use one-click "front-end" for CCE, Ifoedit etc. Last night, I installed v0.48 and all the other required programs, and gave it Hulk (disc 1) to process. Some five hours later I had a pristine backup on my HD. Mind you, Hulk is not the simplest of DVDs, with its "Hulk cam" branching feature, but I'm happy to say the backup works perfectly.

This kind of work needs to be supported, so I've just made a donation of $20. Cheers!

.:colin

influenza
15th May 2004, 11:15
It warms my heart to see the power of CCE start opening to the masses. It has been the encoder of choice only for the geeks <cough - like me> for way too long.

lol quite true

jdobbs
15th May 2004, 12:18
@colinhunt

Wow. It isn't often that I get two donations in the same day. You've given me a great boost!

marcor
25th May 2004, 20:58
can i use DGDecode.dll (former name mpeg2dec3dg.dll last version 1.30) with the new version rebuilder 0.50a ?
thx in advance for info about this.

MagnaV45
31st May 2004, 15:39
Hi Jdobbs,

Great piece of software.
Any chance of implementing DGMPGDec instead of DVD2AVI and thus using DGDecode.dll instead of MPEG2DEC3.DLL ?

If you checkout the readme.html provided with DGMPGDec :

"The widely used tools DVD2AVI and MPEG2DEC suffer from serious problems, including frame loss. This can cause serious problems with audio sync and authoring with some tools. Not only that, but random frame access is not handled correctly and incorrect frames can be returned when navigating on the timeline via MPEG2DEC (and its clones)."

I for ex had some issues with the Extra's on "Vulcano High". Running CCE and using mpeg2dec3.dll in my .avs scripts caused noticable artifacts like frameskips and blocks...

I then used 'DGIndex', disabled the audio output and generated new .D2V files, replacing the ones generated by DVD-RB.
Next I modified all the .avs scripts to use DGDecode.dll instead of MPEG2DEC3.DLL.
Then I pressed 'Encode' and waited. When finished I reviewed the encoded .m2v files an they ware fine. Finally pressed 'Rebuild' and I had a nice working DVD.

So for know I modify 'options-setup' having MPEG2DEC3 path to point to DGDecode.dll.

Then I use my 4 step workaround :

1. I click 'prepare' once.
2. I recreate the .D2V files using DGindex
3. I click 'encode'
4. I click 'rebuild'

Therefore releasing a future version of DVD-RB which uses DGIndex and DGDecode.dll would be great.

jdobbs
31st May 2004, 15:50
Originally posted by MagnaV45
Hi Jdobbs,

Great piece of software.
Any chance of implementing DGMPGDec instead of DVD2AVI and thus using DGDecode.dll instead of MPEG2DEC3.DLL ?

If you checkout the readme.html provided with DGMPGDec :

"The widely used tools DVD2AVI and MPEG2DEC suffer from serious problems, including frame loss. This can cause serious problems with audio sync and authoring with some tools. Not only that, but random frame access is not handled correctly and incorrect frames can be returned when navigating on the timeline via MPEG2DEC (and its clones)."

I for ex had some issues with the Extra's on "Vulcano High". Running CCE and using mpeg2dec3.dll in my .avs scripts caused noticable artifacts like frameskips and blocks...

I then used 'DGIndex', disabled the audio output and generated new .D2V files, replacing the ones generated by DVD-RB.
Next I modified all the .avs scripts to use DGDecode.dll instead of MPEG2DEC3.DLL.
Then I pressed 'Encode' and waited. When finished I reviewed the encoded .m2v files an they ware fine. Finally pressed 'Rebuild' and I had a nice working DVD.

So for know I modify 'options-setup' having MPEG2DEC3 path to point to DGDecode.dll.

Then I use my 4 step workaround :

1. I click 'prepare' once.
2. I recreate the .D2V files using DGindex
3. I click 'encode'
4. I click 'rebuild'

Therefore releasing a future version of DVD-RB which uses DGIndex and DGDecode.dll would be great. The frame loss problems outlined by in your quote from DG were fixed in previous versions -- that is why DVD-RB requires MPEG2DEC3dg.dll. I'll have to check out the random frame access part.

jdobbs
31st May 2004, 16:23
Anybody know what the difference is between DGDecode.dll and MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL v 1.3.0? I went to Donald Grafts site and I didn't see a DGDecode...

[EDIT] Never mind, found it.

totya
8th June 2004, 16:12
Hi!

Many new version!
Manual additional avs code possibility, super!
Ok, probe it, I'm not see this program from long time.
Well, put noise filter (additional avs) code.

Let me see. The result is not good. Few dropped frame. Dropped frame???
Yes, dropped frame. The chapter last, and next chapter first frame is equally.

Well, probe default settings (additional avs code none), dropped frame none.

Example :

Original DVD : chapter last frame is "P", next chapter first frame is "I". Dropped none. (Certainly)

DVDRB without additional avs code (default) : chapter last frame is "P", next chapter first frame is "P" (?!). Dropped none.

DVDRB with additional avs code (noise filter) : chapter last frame is "P", next chapter first frame is "P" (!). Dropped found, the two frame is equally.

If possible, please correct it.

DVDRB version is latest, 0.52
Avisinth : latest.
DVD2AVI : v1.0 , v1.1 (DGraft) symptoms equally. (DVD2AVI v1.3, and DGMPGDec v1.10 can't run with DVDRB)

My english is poor sorry.

Totya.

jdobbs
8th June 2004, 16:47
I'm not sure I understand... but what do you mean by "next chapter first frame is 'P'"? Since all cells (generally "chapter") are encoded individually they all start with an I frame...

By "the two frame is equally" are you saying that you've found an instance where two AVS files reference the same frame?

colinhunt
8th June 2004, 21:05
I've been using v0.51c very successfully and with quite remarkable results. Thank you jdobbs, this truly is one hell of a program!

However (there was bound to be one, eh?), last night it produced the first faulty encoding. The movie in question is the animated feature 'Sinbad - Legend of the Seven Seas' by Dreamworks; region 2 Scandinavian release which has Finnish, Swedish, English and Icelandic audio, subs in those same languages and plenty of extras, including weblinks and a set-top game.

I set DVD-RB thusly:
CCE mode (SP 2.66+)
3 passes
One Click Mode
Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates
Steal Space from Extras: 25%

and told it to encode the movie directly from disc via AnyDVD.

It took 8+ hours, resulting in 4.30GB of files. Since DVD-RB has been working so wonderfully in the past, I burned the files on a disc right away and deleted them from HDD. Only after a while I chucked the disc into a stand-alone player to check it.

Copyright warnings and such played OK and everything was hunky-dory until I selected PLAY MOVIE from main menu. Dreamworks' logo played fine at first, then playback froze momentarily and the movie skipped some 3 minutes forwards. After that playback was choppy at best, skipping and freezing, jumping backwards and forwards.

I measured the burn with K-Probe, only to find that the burn was nigh-on perfect, so the fault lies not with the media.

It's probably impossible to draw any debugging conclusions from such a poor bug report, but I thought I'd bring it up anyways. :)

cheers,
.:colin

edit: Jdobbs, if you're interested in looking a bit deeper into this one, I could put the .ifo-files on the net for your download.

Joergen
8th June 2004, 22:11
colin: from what I recall, that movie has a 900MB menu, and 4GB of button over video extras. Plus the movie itself is razor sharp (one of the sharpest I've seen, disney cant touch it), so my guess its too hard an encode for DVD-RB. Plus the BOV extras prolly stop working or dont work properly.

totya
8th June 2004, 22:23
Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm not sure I understand... but what do you mean by "next chapter first frame is 'P'"? Since all cells (generally "chapter") are encoded individually they all start with an I frame...

By "the two frame is equally" are you saying that you've found an instance where two AVS files reference the same frame?

When I generated DVD files with DVDRB (from DVD) and open these file from VirtualDubMod, or generated DVD files with DVDRB converted to mpeg2 (example dvd2avi) and open VirtaulDubMod, I see, when I found dropped frame, the two fram type is equally "P", and contain is too equally - when I'm uses nosie filter.
If I'm not uses noise filter, the problem, one chapter end frame is "P" and next chapter first frame too "P" type.

I think the DVDRB coding phase is good (.mp2 generating phase), I think, the "joint phase" is bad. If I See .mp2 files, this is good, but in the result file, is bad.

Best regards :

Totya

Joergen
8th June 2004, 23:32
Perhaps those missing frames are the first frames of an open GOP that DVD2AVI doesnt display?

totya
9th June 2004, 01:25
Hi!

Additional information (see last problem - "dropped frame"), I'm probe, if compressor is Quenc (latest), the frame type I think is better than CCE.

See example (from the result DVD file - extra filter none):

Chapter last frame is 15174
Next chapter first frame is 15175

if uses CCE-SP 2.67
15173 : P
15174 : P (!)
15175 : I
15176 : B

if uses Quenc 0.51

15173 : B
15174 : P
15175 : I
15176 : B

Best regards :

Totya

VampHuntD
9th June 2004, 01:42
Hey Jdobbs,
Been a while since I'm gotten to test some stuff for ya, but I got something now. Just ran Spiderman's Bonus Disc which starts at about 5.51gb Ran this using these:

DVD-RB .52
Avisyth 2.54
CCE 2.67.00.09 SP

Everything seems to have gone fine, but my final putput is only 3.16gb Maybe it's because this is a bonus disc, since I am using half D1 and half space enabled with dynamic bitrates that causing this. Any ideas? STILL THE BEST CCE APP YET!

Joergen
9th June 2004, 02:23
You shouldnt "use half-d1 half space FOR EXTRAS" in a bonus disc, that doesnt have a movie and extras. DVD-RB will interpret the biggest VTS as the movie and the rest extras. Also dont use it for episodic discs for the same reason.

The undersizing is caused by a combination of the half-d1-space option and dynamic bitrates, I would assume. While encoding a disc that was only 3.5GB (lb->16:9) to begin with, DVD-RB created a 3.5GB output with Dynamic enabled. Without it, the disc came out 4.32GB as it should.

A disc that small doesnt need half-d1 anyway. I didnt need half-d1 for extras discs that were 7.5GB and they came out as good as the original.

jdobbs
9th June 2004, 02:36
Exactly as explained by Joergen. The largest of the VTSs was allocated all the space you recovered from the other extras... and the receiving VTS couldn't use it all.

VampHuntD
9th June 2004, 04:22
yup, I thought abotu it after I had posted and figured that out, go figure. I may have found something new though to do with the buttons, which have some video to them, I'll let you know once I check the original.

VampHuntD
9th June 2004, 08:33
OK real error this time. This same Spiderman disc has some button over video on the menus. The movement of the lights on the button will not go past teh first light. Same with another menu with moving arrows as buttons, it just kinda jerks and replays the first arrow. The button still works so it's just the animation I guess.

Sir Didymus
9th June 2004, 09:29
@VampHuntD

The problem with Menus based on stills & BOV is known.

See for reference the new sticky thread of wmansir
(very appreciated) about Known Issues...

See also:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75470

Suggested workaround could be to manually demuxing from the original the m2v file corresponding to the menu, overwriting the file produced by DVD-RB in the encoding phase and rebuilding the title...

Hope it could help...
SD

totya
10th June 2004, 01:31
Originally posted by Joergen
Perhaps those missing frames are the first frames of an open GOP that DVD2AVI doesnt display?

Hi!

This question for me or of developers? :)

VampHuntD
10th June 2004, 08:29
This is what I get for not being around to test more often, yeah I knew that already, I just forgot, thanks though.

Sir Didymus
10th June 2004, 09:30
@totya.

I am actually doing some tests, with the new release of DVD-RB, just for trying to replicate what you are reporting.

My setup is as follow:

DVD-RB .52
Avisyth 2.54
CCE 2.67.00.23 SP
Filters: Undot().Deen()
Movie: a DVD title in area 2

1) Using Filters almost doubles the encoding time...
2) The output of DVD-RB is PERFECT...
3) Demuxing all vob of the rebuilt title and looking into every cells, I verifyed that all cells of the title start with an I frame (as it should be..)...
4) The number of frames for each one of the rebuilt cells is exactely equal to the number of frames of the original cells...
5) The GOP structures of the original and of the rebuilt cells are different (but this is totally right, since the cells vere re-encoded)...
6) I was not able of observing any anomalous behaviour in playing the title (on my PC). I am just now going burning, to check if the play on my standalone is right, but I am very confident it is so. I will report the result...
7) No way for me to observe dropped frames or any other anomalous behaviour in the video, in the audio and in the navigation (at least on this specific test...)...

In conclusion everything seems as it should be: PERFECT.

@all

It's time in my opinion to donate again. (I will do in minutes...).
I have been away for a while (dropped releases 0.50 and 0.51 damn...) and I think the work of JDobbs is making amazing progresses. I see the time of exiting from the beta test approaching... His work should be supported...

Cheers,
SD

RB
10th June 2004, 13:19
Originally posted by totya
Chapter last frame is 15174
Next chapter first frame is 15175

if uses CCE-SP 2.67
15173 : P
15174 : P (!)
15175 : I
15176 : B

if uses Quenc 0.51

15173 : B
15174 : P
15175 : I
15176 : B
There is nothing wrong with this. Just because CCE decided to encode two consecutive P-Frames doesn't mean it's duplicating a frame. Also make sure that what VDub displays are the frames in coding order, not display order (if that's an option at all).

Sir Didymus
10th June 2004, 14:46
Originally posted by VampHuntD
OK real error this time. This same Spiderman disc has some button over video on the menus. The movement of the lights on the button will not go past teh first light. Same with another menu with moving arrows as buttons, it just kinda jerks and replays the first arrow. The button still works so it's just the animation I guess.

Sorry for asking, but did you burn the title, without applying any patch and tested on a standalone ?

Master RB pointed out [in the Bov 0.46 thread] that the trouble, in his tests, is just affecting PC players. If it is confirmed so (in my opinion) the issue's relevance have a much lower impact...

Sometimes the fighting against potential bugs makes possible to discover big stones even when only fine sand is present...

Cheers,
SD

totya
10th June 2004, 22:44
Originally posted by RB
There is nothing wrong with this. Just because CCE decided to encode two consecutive P-Frames doesn't mean it's duplicating a frame. Also make sure that what VDub displays are the frames in coding order, not display order (if that's an option at all).


Hi!

Thanks your answer.

Well, you say, this no problem? OK.
But then what's wrong? See my post "31st May 2004 15:23".
(Dropped frame...if I'm use noise filter in avs , frame duplicated error)

The dropped available, when double P frames found.. Interesting.

I'm waiting about 10 new verision, and see this again.

Thanks

Totya

VampHuntD
11th June 2004, 01:57
Didymus,
Yeah there was no patch work and I tried it on both a PS2 and an XBOX. Didn't try thr PC drive at all.

deh707
13th June 2004, 17:19
why do i always end up with a video_ts folder with only 1.79GB inside of it?


i know ive heard about this problem before, but since i cant find it, i want to know if anyone can tell me what's the problem here.

wmansir
13th June 2004, 17:26
@deh

Your .avs files are probably broken. Check the .m2v files and see if they actually contain video or just a black picture with an orange/red line. If that's the case, check the FAQ Q4.

geffroman
18th July 2004, 13:39
Hi jdobbs:

Repeat donator and RB lover here...

After running the program many times and almost always in BATCH mode I have come up with a suggestion I believe to be a huge benefit to all:

I am talking about being able to view:

source path destination path path of project in batch screen and the name of open project

Right now the source and destination paths are limited to one line and cannot be scrolled on. Anyone saving files to the MY DOCUMENTS folder with Windows XP cannot see the path to confirm they have the right location.

Same thing occurs in the Batch processing window... Cannot see the whole path of the project selected... It makes batch processing of more than a few projects difficult...

Even when opening an existing project without batch processing I have no view of the project name opened.

I know these are just simple GUI changes, but they would make usability so much easier. I hope you decide these are changes worth making sooner than later.

Regards.. Jeff

jdobbs
18th July 2004, 16:00
Would it be enough to just make the display area twice as large?

geffroman
18th July 2004, 17:33
Originally posted by jdobbs
Would it be enough to just make the display area twice as large? Sure... I can't imagine path names would be longer than that...:D

geffroman
20th July 2004, 06:13
Hi guys...

Hopefully someone else has seen this and knows whats up...

On two discs I have had a problem with the movie just stoping on my stand alone players. Yet it previews without the problem in IfoEdit's previewer.

It happens in both cases at the beginning of the second cell in the chapter. The movie plays through the first cell of the chapter successfully and several frames into the second cell and then just stops as if I hit the pause button. But pause has NOT been activated.

If I hit FF and then play I can continue the cell. It just hangs at this one spot.

I have seen this twice. Once was on a movie and the other on a multi episode disc. So far I have tried to mock strip the data and also even put a small 1% compression on it to reencode... But all ends up with the same FREEZE at the same exact place.

So far the only solution was to run the discs through DVD Shrink instead of RB. I don't have the issue with Shrink but much prefer to use RB.

Any ideas...?

influenza
20th July 2004, 07:57
I would say t6hat this sounds like a 'restricted cell' problem. The cell has got a wrong value, causing the playback to pause.
You could try this:

IFOEdit>VTS_PGCITI>VTS_PGC_x. Find the cell that it is stopping on. Check the Restricted Angle value. If it's not 0, set it to 0

Good luck!

geffroman
20th July 2004, 10:28
Originally posted by influenza
I would say t6hat this sounds like a 'restricted cell' problem. Thanks... I gave that a look... All cells set to "O"... I did see "STC discontinuity" set to YES for the cell in question but this seems to be the case for all second cells in a single chapter...

Any other ideas folks...?

I have posted the IFO HERE (http://posunplugged.com/roswell_ifo). The problem occurs at the beginning of Chapter_4/Cell_6

Any help is appreciated...

So far discs that represent are:
[list=1] Ride with the Devil
Roswell Season 1 Disc 2 Episode 1
Roswell Season 1 Disc 3 Episode 1[/list=1]

UPDATE: Problem solved in 0.56... Thanks...

totya
27th July 2004, 00:14
Originally posted by totya
Hi!

Yes, I'm found error. Audio/video synchronization not good in last DVD-RB backups.

Good audio from original (ac3 file), size is : 574 778 624
If I'm converted to DVD-R with DVD Shrink, size is same (good).
If I'm converted to DVD-R with DVD Rebuilder (with CCE or ReJig) this audio size is not good, size is 574 777 280. I think, this is error, cause of audio/video desynchronization.

If you don't understand my english, please ignore me.

Best regards :

Totya

Hi!

I See the new 0.56 version, but this problem is stay.
Few AC3 audio not equal with original (size different...)

Please correct if possible, this is old and big bug.

Totya

audioslave
9th October 2004, 00:15
Hi guys,
I was just wondering if there is a version of DVD Rebuilder coming out soon that supports multi-angles?

erdoke
9th October 2004, 07:37
Originally posted by audioslave
Hi guys,
I was just wondering if there is a version of DVD Rebuilder coming out soon that supports multi-angles?

Probably the next version will support selecting which one to keep. Real multiangle support (i.e. keep all angles) needs some time.

Rockas
7th January 2005, 20:29
**** REALLY OFF TOPIC ****

This is the best thread of all the Doom9's forums :)

I'm just a little melo today :D

Ain't it great to remember the roots of our "problems"? :cool:

keep it UP

michaelhill
19th July 2007, 01:56
EDIT: My internet company blocked the mail, i did recieve the link now and have succesfully retrieved the key

Hello, i made a payment for the pro version with my creditcard but i havent recieved the program/serial.

Could the author please contact me?