MKV[VP6+subtitles] pb with vobsub

[rom1v]

I encoded video in VP6, working very good...
I've subtitles in srt and in idx&sub...

When I mux VP6 and subtitles in mkv container, it works, but while playing (with MediaPlayerClassic), vobsub can't read subtitles...

It works in VRM7~9 mode with MediaPlayerC... And it works too with vobsub when I use others video codecs (RV10, XviD)...

VobSub can't open subtitles when video is VP6 :(

How can I do?

(PS: I mux with MKVtoolnix, I tried many versions)

[Liisachan]

I can reproduce your problem, and I suppose this is related to MatroskaSplitter. I've just posted about this in this thread hoping Gabest could answer:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=457379#post457379

[rom1v]

Originally posted by Liisachan
I can reproduce your problem, and I suppose this is related to MatroskaSplitter. I've just posted about this in this thread hoping Gabest could answer:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=457379#post457379
Arf, the pb can't be MatroskaSplitter, because when you open the VP6 movie and a subtitlefile with the same name (video.avi, video.srt) in the same directory, VobSub can't read subtitles... while if the movie is encoded with another codec, it works...

So muxed in mkv or not, there's the same problem...

Can a moderator deplace this post in VP6 section?

Thanks...

[Liisachan]

sorry, I'm afraid I was too hasty to decide. Thanks for clarification.

[rom1v]

Ah!!! With FFDSHOW it works ^^ (with vobsub), just active RAW VIDEO: all supported :D

[Liisachan]

Confirmed :D

[gabest]

The vp62 decoder wants to use a media type where the height is negative for yuv types, which is only acceptable for rgb where it signals if the orientation is top-bottom. Unfortunatelly dvobsub doesn't check this before connecting up with the decoder, only a bit later when it would be connecting to the renderer and it ends up stucked with a bad media type on the input and an unconnectable output pin.

[rom1v]

Originally posted by gabest
The vp62 decoder wants to use a media type where the height is negative for yuv types, which is only acceptable for rgb where it signals if the orientation is top-bottom. Unfortunatelly dvobsub doesn't check this before connecting up with the decoder, only a bit later when it would be connecting to the renderer and it ends up stucked with a bad media type on the input and an unconnectable output pin.
Thanks for your answer (even if I don't understand all you said, 'cause I'm not english ^^).
So, what we have to do to make vobsub work with vp6 video (without ffdshow)? Wait a newer version of VP6, or newer version of VobSub? (or both?)

[gabest]

The answer is a newer version of vp decoder. I could only fix dvobsub to not connect to vp62 at all because the media type it outputs is invalid.

[rom1v]

Originally posted by gabest
The answer is a newer version of vp decoder. I could only fix dvobsub to not connect to vp62 at all because the media type it outputs is invalid.
Thanks, so I can encode my movies with VP62 now, and it will work correctly with futures decoders? I don't need to wait newer version on VP6 encoder?

[ChristianHJW]

Yes, its only a decoder problem for VP6 ... but i'm not sure if anybody of them will read here, so they really fix it ....

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by rom1v
Ah!!! With FFDSHOW it works ^^ (with vobsub), just active RAW VIDEO: all supported :D

This setting does work for VP6 + subs. But using that, I feel I got lower performance for XviD playback too. Could this be possible, or just my imagination?