ScenAid 0.9.0.5 released [Archive]

jel

26th February 2004, 06:51

@ jorel
not sure how much you know about the 'big 3' process, or using scenarist for that matter, but essentially Scenaid is used to generate a .scp Scenarist script file of your project to save you a lot of hassle manually reauthoring your project.
although only in its infancy it is already functioning incredibly well.
basically it will(purely speculation on my part) take the place of ReAuthorist in the chain of programs that comprise 'the big 3'.
so if you are following the guide (doom9) when you get to the part where you have to generate a script using RA, instead fire up Scenaid and browse to your DIF4U demux folder. Once it has finished analyzing, generate a script and you are done ;)
@ everyone else.
finding nemo, r4 pal .... a success story!
i was having a lot of issues backing-up nemo using the adjusted cell mode method - subs and audio out of sync, so i decided to demux by vobid and reauthor ..... 56 vobids .... 36 pgcs ... not a lot of fun.
so used the latest build of Scenaid and .....
whoooooo hooooooo!
worked perfectly.
all i had to do was replace the dts and non-cce placeholders with data, compile and perfect back-up!
:D :D :D :D :D
the only thing i should warn users is that it took a while for Scenaid to process/analyse the files ... approximately 35 minutes, so please be patient when using it on complex projects.
it is DEFINITELY worth it!

thanks D3s7, keep up the good work!
j

influenza

26th February 2004, 13:25

the only thing i should warn users is that it took a while for Scenaid to process/analyse the files ... approximately 35 minutes, so please be patient when using it on complex projects.

wow that's a long time. On my machine it usually takes anywhere between 10 and 20 secs. I must have quite simple projects :D

jorel

26th February 2004, 17:21

Originally posted by jel
@ jorel
not sure how much you know about the 'big 3' process, or using scenarist for that matter, ...

j

be sure!
i don't know nothing!
:p

and have tons to read!
:)

Eyes`Only

26th February 2004, 21:12

35 minutes??! Can't wait for the conversion to C++

D3s7

26th February 2004, 22:03

Ok guys... found a slight bug for PAL people that .5 won't quite find no-cce files properly unless they are renamed from .m2v to .mpv

also there was a slight issue with sub detection if it finds the forced sub file first

Both have been resolved and I'm waiting for feedback before releasing another build

jel : if you can send me your .log file please... I'd like to see if there's something in there to clue me in on the slow process

I'm going to rip finding nemo tonight and see what it does for me

Eyes`Only

26th February 2004, 22:11

Just wanted to say I think the users are appreciating the fast fixes and quick releases of issues that are fixing their problems. I know I am! :D

D3s7

26th February 2004, 22:14

nicolati

26th February 2004, 22:42

Hi. It's the first time for me here.:p I tried with your new releases, but it doesn't work correctly. The 0.9.0.5 makes Scenarist crash. Only the version 0.9.0.3, that before gave errors with subtitles, now works fine; but I had to change my version of Scenarist to 3.0. The only problem is that SceneAid 0.9.0.3 generates the dummy files with 4:3 format instead the 16:9.
I'm a PAL user, an Italian user.
Bye.
nicolati

shoarthing

27th February 2004, 00:34

Hi - yes, am a 'PAL person' & no, scenaid [0902/03/04/05] hasn't yet worked on LOTR_Two_Towers - the 'standard' backup I try applications out on.

So far, no version has imported the subs properly [OK, can do this later, but prefer not]; & the current version hasn't worked with 'no-cce' files unless renamed.

Worth persevering with, though; & grateful for all the work put into this to date.

D3s7

27th February 2004, 00:54

shoarthing: Ok well I already said there was a problem with the no-cce files which will be fixed in .6

that being said, please explain a little more "no version has imported the subs properly"

nicolati: more information please - how many VTS we talking about? what kind of demux (PGC/VOBID) - if you could please zip/rar up the ScenAid.log and ScenAid.scp file for me and email it I'll take a look and see why it's causing Scenarist to crash

NOTE: you can try by clicking FIle/Options and checking the "don't import subs" box and see if that helps - that would at least narrow the problem down a little

- D3s7

influenza

27th February 2004, 11:59

Just wanted to say I think the users are appreciating the fast fixes and quick releases of issues that are fixing their problems. I know I am!

I can second that. The above described problems with the no-cce and subs were discovered by me yesterday afternoon. 30 minutes later they didn't exist anymore. So that's some fast fixing. Thanks d3s7 :)

de66ka

27th February 2004, 14:30

Hi,
I never tried your program before. This week I found the forum-thread and tried your little peace of software.
I'm a Pal-user and tried first version 0.9.0.4.
I demuxed "Goodbye Lenin" using Dif4u (by vob-id). Your program creates an scp-file of at least 15 MB. But there was a problem with the subs. All subtitles (numbered correct in Dif4u) are in the scp-file with the ending "0001". So Scenarist tries to import the same subtitle several times.

Then I tried version 0.9.0.3. on the same demux. Subtitle-Numbering seemed to be correct, but importing into scenarist fails. Every subtitle produces an "error" in the scenarist-log-window.

Yesterday I found version 0.9.0.5. I use it on my demux, and what can I say.... The program doesn't recognize the subs, so no subs were imported into scenarist.

So far now. I hope my post give you the chance to improve the usability and function of your soft.

Greets de66ka

iks

28th February 2004, 10:50

Great work! I love this program.
But now I had to do a demux by cell-id (Fast and Furious, PAL) and wondered if this is difficult to implement in ScenAid.

Greets, iks

influenza

28th February 2004, 17:33

Hmm I wonder why a cell demux would be necessary. Never came across one myself. But this isn't the place to discuss that I guess :)

wmansir

28th February 2004, 21:41

I'm trying .5 out on Aliens (Quadrilogy Disc 3, R1) by VOBID and I think I may have come across the forced subs problem. The normal subs are detected imported fine, but there is a set of "special edition" subs are not being imported. (They are forced subs that let you know when you are watching SE footage).

Also, the import script didn't create dummy tracks. I'm keeping x80 and x82, but there are no dummy tracks where x81 and x83 should be. If you need any more help beta (alpha?) testing let me know. Or if you want .LOG or .SCP files.

That remindes me, what program do you guys use to view/edit those large TXT files? I've tried several notepad like programs but most of them get killed by the size of these files. Right now I'm using a program called TextEdit from www.haxial.com. It handles the large files well, but it is crossplatfrom and has a unusual interface. So I'm still on the hunt for a better program.

Eyes`Only

28th February 2004, 22:26

I use ultraedit as my text editor. Try it and you'll see why :) Right Click>Ultraedit on any file is quite a useful feature, too

also, 0x83 is unnecessary, though I can see a need for 0x82

taskman

28th February 2004, 23:52

I thought I would just let you know that I have just managed to make a good copy of The Sin Eater region 2 with the help of scenaid. I had a few problems, which were easily solved when I realised I was still running an older version even though I had installed the latest version. How stupid do you think I felt when I realized this.

Keep Up the good work.

I can't think of any reason why someone would want to use any of the one click solutions when there are tools like this available.

joaoccc

29th February 2004, 13:42

Hello
i'm using .5 version in pirates of carabbien that i demuxed by vobid and when i try to use scenaid the program don't import the files from the demux directory, don't give any errors.
i let it stay one night trying to import and don't do nothing. But version .3 import the files.

Regards

XadoX

29th February 2004, 18:59

I use the Version .5

Makeing a Script for VOBID Demux works fine. At importing in Scenarist also no errors. But if i want to export the movie i get several errors.

<i>Error Subpicture Decoding Stream Number for wide of Stream 2 is 9 in "PGC:<VTS1_Title1_PGC1> (Title:<VTS1_Title1> VTS:<VTS_1>) ". It should be less than 2.
Error Subpicture Decoding Stream Number for letterbox of Stream 2 is 9 in "PGC:<VTS1_Title1_PGC1> (Title:<VTS1_Title1> VTS:<VTS_1>) ". It should be less than 2.
Error Subpicture Decoding Stream Number for wide of Stream 2 is 9 in "PGC:<VTS1_Title2_PGC2> (Title:<VTS1_Title2> VTS:<VTS_1>) ". It should be less than 2.
Error Subpicture Decoding Stream Number for letterbox of Stream 2 is 9 in "PGC:<VTS1_Title2_PGC2> (Title:<VTS1_Title2> VTS:<VTS_1>) ". It should be less than 2.
Error Validate From DB failed.
Error DVD Video files could not be created</I>

@D3s7: I you wish i can send you my log files!

D3s7

1st March 2004, 15:49

Ok... I need somone (preferably a PAL person) who is having sub problems to email me to test a new build I'm working on.

This build IS NOT ready for release yet and I wouldn't use it for your final project but should hopefully address the sub issues - especially if your having problems with subs being put in at the wrong spot

Thanks

- D3s7

de66ka

1st March 2004, 16:14

No problem,
I'm ready to test your new build.
I've a demux of "Goodbye Lenin" (Pal-Version)on my harddrive. No version of your program detects the subs correct (see a earlier post of me).
If you feel free, mail me at "axdecker@web.de".

de66ka

wmansir

2nd March 2004, 06:45

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
I use ultraedit as my text editor. Try it and you'll see why :) Right Click>Ultraedit on any file is quite a useful feature, too

also, 0x83 is unnecessary, though I can see a need for 0x82

Thanks, I've been trying out Ultraedit and it works pretty good. It's a bit of overkill for my needs, but nice none the less.

Also, for the tracks (I assume you meant "a need for x81" to keep the tracks in the right places.)

I ended up placing some dummy tracks with the correct names into the VTS folder so Scenaid detected and added them to the script. The only problem was Scenarist thought they were real clips and I got some layout errors when trying to build my project (something about the size of the VOB being wrong, contact tech support). The fix was to just just turn the dummy clips to placeholders and then back to data, which was quick and easy.

Also, I might have spoken too quickly about the Force Sub issue. I can't recall if that was the definite cause of the problem in my case. The subs were also labeled "(not detected)", and were a special case (kinda like button over, but without them actually being buttons). I ended up removing the forced sets and getting rid of any references to not detected, since they can be treated as regular subs. Then I rebuilt the scripts and it went fine.

After those two workarounds things seem to be working fine. It still has the stuttering between VOBIDs, but from what I have read that is a problem with Scenarist.

D3s7

3rd March 2004, 04:32

Ok guys... just wanted to let everyone know what's been going on

Been trying to resolve the sub issues people are having and ahve a new build out to a few people to test.. hopefully I get back thumbs up from them

Added a new feature that allows you to select if you want to keep original Sub structure or only up to the highest demuxed sub

Added CC functionality

Improved logging and visual effect. Also, found a HUGE chunk of the script that isn't needed for valid imports (tested on 2.6/2.7/3.0) - this cuts about 140lines PER TRACK out of the script file. should help with import speeds a little.

Also coming up soon (thanks to a little utility Zeul wrote) is the ability to control Scenarist directly from ScenAid - anywhere from just opening it up to open, import,compile, close scenarist when finished. Of course, I personally just open and import as I always wanna check out my script :)

nicolati

3rd March 2004, 17:33

Using ScenAid 0.9.0.5 I receive an error in Scenarist 3 during the mux step:
Info Multiplexing VOB "D:\eMule\Incoming\Star.Wars.Ep1.by.SbR\VIDEO1_TS\mux_data\\StarWars0905new-VTS01V001_t.vob".
Info Multiplexing VOB Main Stream
Error The number of frames of audio 3 is shorter than video's "D:\eMule\Incoming\Star.Wars.Ep1.by.SbR\VIDEO1_TS\VTS01\VTS__01_V001-80-448K-ch6.AC3"
Error Please use longer audio file for seamless vob connnection
Error dvd_mux : DoMux Multiplexing Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (StarWars0905new-VTS01V001_t.vob).
Error Audio gap is detected
Error Multiplex is failed.
Error Multiplexing failed, Track "VTS01V001"

Error MuxFromDB:MuxVTS failed
Error Multiplex failed
Error DVD Video files could not be created

There is a thread that says about this problem, but I can't use Scenarist manually and however I wanted to report you this error.
Bye.
nicolati

D3s7

3rd March 2004, 17:37

Movie must have angles :)

that's a problem I'm seeing on a few angled movies when the audio isn't the same length as the video.

Trying to find a fix to avoid it but for now a little manual work is needed, go to the DoItfast4u home page and search in the knowledge base, there's an article on how to fix this type of error

nicolati

4th March 2004, 15:05

Ok. Thanks. I will try it. The film is Star Wars The Phantom Menace Italian Version. It has 2 angles, then I have used the VOBID Method.
Bye.
nicolati

Haohmaru

5th March 2004, 09:31

Hi !

Im just trying to backup Alien Quadrology Disk3 (R2 PAL).
When i import the script into Scenarist i get 2 minor errors :

Info Importing dummy_16_9_data
Error Class(Video) Tag(Size, 1522540772) failed to paste
Info Importing dummy_4_3_data
Error Class(Video) Tag(Size, 1522540772) failed to paste

Except these, everything is fine, so i had ignored that. After all the steps the backup seemed to be worked fine, just like the original.
Theatrical and Special Edition worked both.
Its only one thing that isn't good. And that's beacouse Sceneaid didn't make dummy audio tracks.(I know it cant't yet in Vob ID demux)
In the original ifo there are 5 audio tracks, i only want to keep english (0x80) and hungarian (0x83), so i unchecked the others in DIF4U. But beacouse the dummy tracks were mising, after scenarist english was 0x80 and hungarian 0x81. And the whorse is, if i select in the menu hungarian audio, the player starts the movie with no sound (of courrse) beacouse he has set 0x83 what has no really audio track, only the place of it generated by ifoupdate. If i let the "copy audio subpicture tables" checked in ifoupdate then it plays also not 0x81, but 0x80 what is english.
Is there any chance that Sceneaid will have the ability to generate dummy audio tracks if there was demuxed by VOB ID?
Or has someone an idea for fixing this ?

Trahald

6th March 2004, 04:03

as d3s7 said.. its not a fault in scenaid that it cant make dummy audio with vobid demux. its that you CANNOT do dummy audio in vobid demux. well.. not that you cant but scenarist will never compile it like that.

If tracks are linked seamlessy in a pgc they must have audio that have durations the full length of the tracks (except for the last track but one vobid does no good).. hence no dummies allowed. you either MUST keep all the audios.. or if you kill some,you have to mess with the ifo or change the menu buttons so they point to the correct audios.

closest thing i could think of is a making a track with silence in it at a very low bitrate (doesnt matter how low since the track is silent) and use them to replace the ones you killed .. i dunno what the legal minimum is. with vobid these silence tracks would be in every pgc with non-still videos. this would probably not be worth the effort for the small gain except maybe dts.

Haohmaru

6th March 2004, 08:42

Ok thx, so no dummy audio tracks by Vob ID demux.
Can you (or anybody) tell me how to change the menu buttons so they point to the correct audios ?
Is there a tool for that ?

Eyes`Only

6th March 2004, 18:35

ugh that would probably throw sizing off too :confused:

ThAD0oD

7th March 2004, 06:24

Hey, Im ripping a movie with 6 subtitle streams, ScenAid seems to not import the start times of the subs in the .sst. I used DIF4U, ReAuthorist and DoCCE4U, then ScenAid to generate the .scp.

It seemed to import everything fine into Scenarist... then I get hundreds of "The subtitle stream is across scene border at xx:xx:xx", from each subtitle, from each stream, at about 3 different timecodes... took 4 hours to run through all that :/.

I looked in the track editor at the subs, and all the subs had begin timecode at 00:00:00, yet they had the right end time. Of course compiling failed and it took me a few hrs to figure out what the hell was goin on hehe.

The .SCP was 28megs... so I wasnt about to sift through it myself... with 6 sub streams at ~1600 subs per stream .. makes a big .scp.

Tried with 0.9.0.4, and 0.9.0.5 same error.

The .scp made by ReAuthorist doesnt have the subtitle problem, but alas it has a video import problem I have yet to fix :/.

NTSC movie.

ScenAid.LOG is 1mb so i cant really paste it :/ , but I look in there and all the right timecodes for the subs were taken

eg:

(3/6/2004 9:39:58 PM) Scanning Sub Line: 1036 00:57:53:09 00:57:55:25 VTS_09_VSUB_P1A1-01-English_1036.bmp
(3/6/2004 9:39:58 PM) Scanning Sub Line: 1037 00:58:06:10 00:58:09:17 VTS_09_VSUB_P1A1-01-English_1037.bmp
(3/6/2004 9:39:58 PM) Scanning Sub Line: 1038 00:58:13:02 00:58:16:00 VTS_09_VSUB_P1A1-01-English_1038.bmp
(3/6/2004 9:39:58 PM) Scanning Sub Line: 1039 00:58:16:03 00:58:20:26 VTS_09_VSUB_P1A1-01-English_1039.bmp

Im out of ideas... anyone else?

n1ck0s

7th March 2004, 14:26

there is an option in scenaid not ot import subtitles. check this and try to import them manually.

D3s7

7th March 2004, 19:32

That's actually not an error, if you manually import the .sst's you'll find the same warning/errors.

Basically, the bmp starts in one scene and ends in another. I'm working on a fix to minimize these but like I said, you'll find the same thing when manually importing

influenza

7th March 2004, 19:36

d3s7 is it possible to remove the stop attribute from the subs when importing? I belive that resolves those errors/warnings

Haohmaru

8th March 2004, 23:36

I have succesfully made another backup from Alien Quadrology (disc 5 PAL) ScenAid is a really powerfull tool.
But there is a little annoying thing. At every layer break (the disc contains about 50 )the backup freezes for a half second, but not the original disc.
I checked my last project (AQ disc 3 PAL) and it has a similar problem. This disc has only 2 layer breaks, but it freezes for a very short time (the original not at all) at the begin of almost every new Vob ID. This is quite annoying beacouse it has more than 60 and that means i see skippings in every 2-3 min.

Is this normal? Is there a way to solve this problem ?

Trahald

9th March 2004, 03:07

i did notice that on vobid demux, scenaid is not setting all the cells it can as [SM] seamless.. on a seamless branching title some of them will have to be [NSM]non-seamless(if the pgc playback has to jump within the vob)..but many can be seamless.. i just manually go back and change all the ones i can to seamless

ThAD0oD

9th March 2004, 03:28

Originally posted by D3s7
That's actually not an error, if you manually import the .sst's you'll find the same warning/errors.

Basically, the bmp starts in one scene and ends in another. I'm working on a fix to minimize these but like I said, you'll find the same thing when manually importing I know thats an actual warning, but that should only happen for the subs that are across that scene boundary... every single one of the subs do that warning becuase it ScenAid imported them with a video start time of 00:00:00 instead of the actual time...

I resolved a compeltely different way anyway ;)

n1ck0s

10th March 2004, 00:08

Originally posted by Trahald
i did notice that on vobid demux, scenaid is not setting all the cells it can as [SM] seamless.. on a seamless branching title some of them will have to be [NSM]non-seamless(if the pgc playback has to jump within the vob)..but many can be seamless.. i just manually go back and change all the ones i can to seamless

I was always wondering if the seamless-non seamless option was set correctly for the cells. It seems that cells always have the default setting (e.g. the first cell of each tile is always non-seamless).

Is there any rule of thumb when to change this settings? What do you mean by "all the ones i can"?

Sorry if the answer is obvious, I'm very confused w/ this SM, NSM staff.

TRILIGHT

10th March 2004, 18:13

Originally posted by n1ck0s
I was always wondering if the seamless-non seamless option was set correctly for the cells. It seems that cells always have the default setting (e.g. the first cell of each tile is always non-seamless).

Is there any rule of thumb when to change this settings? What do you mean by "all the ones i can"?

Sorry if the answer is obvious, I'm very confused w/ this SM, NSM staff.

If I remember correctly, the Scenarist manual mentions only being able to set SM on contiguous video data. In other words, one scene or cell that followed another could be set SM but you could not do the same with a jump from one video asset to another or back witin the same, etc. Basically, you can't use SM very often but it should be set when you are able to do so. I've noticed this glitch with ScenAid myself.

PS. For those wondering... I wasn't really here. You didn't see me. hehe ;) Seriously though, I'm like Lestadt in "Interview with a Vampire". I'm practically dead but still struggling to make it out. I hope to rejoin the land of the living again soon.

influenza

10th March 2004, 18:17

hehe. Nice to have not seen you trilight :D

D3s7

10th March 2004, 18:38

Well I'll have to definitely take a look at that then

If anyone can shoot me an IFO and screenshots that might be helpful

Trilight: nice not seeing you :)

TRILIGHT

10th March 2004, 18:53

Nice to not be seen. :D

By the way... DAMN fine work on ScenAid, D3s7! I've seen a number of anomalies when doing VOBID stuff but perhaps you're still working on that part? For instance, I remember seeing some form of error reported during the mux that stated a particular VOB was not the expected size or something like that. I recreated that portion manually and even replaced it with a nothing dummy asset but I still couldn't get it to compile. Not sure if that is a script error or what but it appears to be. I'll try to get you more info if you aren't familiar with the error.

D3s7

10th March 2004, 20:09

Oooh thanky..

There are a few problems I know of still that have to do w/ audio durations causing muxing issues. Others I'm still working out as I find them. Die Another Day has been a headache but unfortunatly I haven't been able to get enough time to take a good long look at it.

Work in progress though...

Now that the foundation is there building the house hopefully won't be as difficult. It be easier too if Scenarist would stop tossing hurricanes and floods at me :)

BTW: keep sucking on them rats to keep yourself alive.... you'll be jumping on the roof of a reports car real soon

n1ck0s

10th March 2004, 23:48

PS. For those wondering... I wasn't really here. You didn't see me. hehe ;) Seriously though, I'm like Lestadt in "Interview with a Vampire". I'm practically dead but still struggling to make it out. I hope to rejoin the land of the living again soon.
Back from the dead :devil: to help me out? Flattered... :p

Trahald

11th March 2004, 04:44

As Trilight said.. it must be continuous (ivlu/angle is considered continous) data to be seamless (which automatically rules out the first cell so it must be NSM). you can apply logic to only choose which ones will allow the seamless[SM] tag to be set but really its quicker to just try all the ones listed as NSM.. if scenarist gives you a choice for seamless pick it.. if not goto the next

and W*sorta*B Trilight

walkistalki

11th March 2004, 13:34

I found another strange issue with dif4u-scenaid. The Mission, region 2 pal has 5 pgcs, of which the last 3 are stills. When scenaid creates the script it imports the first of the 3 as a movie, the 2 others correctly as encoded stills.

D3s7, i can send you all the log files/created script if you want (70kb zip)

thanks very much for the program!

D3s7

11th March 2004, 14:17

Yep.... shoot me the ScenAid.scp/.log and the .ifo for the VTS in question

n1ck0s

11th March 2004, 15:47

Originally posted by Trahald
As Trilight said.. it must be continuous (ivlu/angle is considered continous) data to be seamless (which automatically rules out the first cell so it must be NSM). you can apply logic to only choose which ones will allow the seamless[SM] tag to be set but really its quicker to just try all the ones listed as NSM.. if scenarist gives you a choice for seamless pick it.. if not goto the next

and W*sorta*B Trilight

It sounds easy enough :) thx. Is this only a "demux by vobid" thing? I had playback issues w/ "THE MATRIX" on a standalone (pauses every two minutes or so at the second part of the movie). This wasn't a "by vobid" project and it plays fine w/ PowerDVD.

wmansir

12th March 2004, 09:36

I have notices a problem with some Scenaid scripts, but it is due to my tinkering, so I'm not going to call it a bug or anything.

The problem is when I override DIF4U's suggested method for handling NTSC material. Specifically, when DIF4U determines something is Hybrid or Interlaced But I manually use IVTC on it. So instead of encoding it at 29.97fps I add IVTC in the .avs script, encode at 23.976fps and then manually run pulldown.

When this happens the Scenaid script miscalculates the length of the video (I guess it must be going by frames instead of timecodes) and the resulting layout cuts off the last 1/5th of the video. I don't know if this also affects chapter points because I have only done this with a few short extras that do not contain chapters.

D3s7

12th March 2004, 13:25

If the AVS reports back 23.976 or the equiv then it should be ok.
Only other thing it does detect is the "no-pull" in the file names. You could try taking that out (if it exists) and see if it helps

TuRiSOft

12th March 2004, 16:29

@D3s7
thx for the good work.

I found something , don't know if it is a bug.

I use to keep only Italian Language for audio but with "The Lion King ES" Pal - Disc1 - VTS20 it is located on stream 0x82 and scenaid 0.9.0.5 doesn't create the Dummies needed for 0x80 and 0x81.
Is it a bug or is something not needed?
ReAuthorist usually creates those dummies , I think for correct mapping of streams.
Also I had an issue when muxing the Angle VobId (006-007) but this not due to scenaid , but to the lenght of the demuxed Audio Stream.
I fixed it importng all manually and then using the ACM mode of IfoUpdate.

D3s7

12th March 2004, 16:47

Did you demux this by PGC or VOBID?

VOBID can't dummy audio - it sucks but you have to update the resulting ifo to point to the correct channels

if it was demuxed by PGC, yeah it should have dummied them correctly..

If it was PGC if you can send me your ScenAid.SCP, ScenAid.LOG files and the original IFO for the VTS set in question

Thanks

TuRiSOft

12th March 2004, 17:07

I did it by VOBID!

I created all Dummies by myself with besplit!

D3s7

12th March 2004, 17:46

you created full length dummies?

might as well have left the originals in

TuRiSOft

12th March 2004, 18:45

Originally posted by D3s7
you created full length dummies?

might as well have left the originals in

I am a newbie (perhaps little more than, I think....) not a mad!

I made a Dummy AC3 of about 1 second from 1 of the existing AC3 streams and used it to fill the needed streams.

I wanna state: i used the same Dummy stream for all missing streams!

wmansir

12th March 2004, 18:52

Originally posted by D3s7
If the AVS reports back 23.976 or the equiv then it should be ok.
Only other thing it does detect is the "no-pull" in the file names. You could try taking that out (if it exists) and see if it helps

Thanks for the quick response. The .avs does report the correct fps, so I think it must be due to the "nopull" file name because I don't change that. I'll change it the next time I encounter this type of situation and post the results.

TRILIGHT

12th March 2004, 19:26

If you go to the "Tips and Tricks" section in the link in my signature, I have a number of different dummy files for download.

D3s7

12th March 2004, 19:44

Yeah but you can't dummy audio in a vobid demux

influenza

15th March 2004, 10:00

Why not?

TuRiSOft

15th March 2004, 14:58

Originally posted by influenza
Why not?

I did it so!

And it worked!

Trahald

15th March 2004, 16:22

you CAN NOT have a dummy audio in vobid demux UNLESS you dont link your vobids seamlessly in the scenario editor. if there werent a way to reassign the audios in ifoedit id sorta understand that. but to have non-seamless links just to be lazy isnt worth it (non-seamless linking causes stutter in playback at the points where the vobids change on 99% settops).

also, obviously if you have only 1 vobid in the pgc or if the 2nd vobid is just a dummy chapter stop vobid where seamless linking isnt needed, you can also use a dummy audio.

D3s7

15th March 2004, 16:24

Whew... Thanks

was starting to second guess myself :)

influenza

15th March 2004, 16:32

Hmm, Never thought of it that way. I normally don't use dummies anyway. But it is possible to use em, you just cannot link the vobids seamlessly (it's not that it is impossible :) )

Anyway if you don't dummy them do not forget to edit the ifo to put in the correct audio stream numbers ;)

Trahald

15th March 2004, 16:55

if tracks are linked seamlessy in a pgc they must have audio that have durations the full length of the tracks (except for the last track but one vobid does no good)..

thats me about 30 replies up ;)

16th March 2004, 17:15

A word of warning, I have never used DIF4U nor Reauthorist nor SceneAid, but I can't resist to comment on this (infamous?) "Demux by VobId" issue.

First of all it is of course clear that we have to demux by VobId if there are angles, seamless branching or other "playback discontinuities" in the PGC. But once this is done, should we really put the disc back together from this uh, utterly broken apart state? I say there are better ways :).

I mean, even though the disc has angles and what not, it was originally definitely not put together from "VobIds" but from large contiguous streams that then had angles and seamless branching added in places. This is possible in Scenarist (except for seamless branching), so should we not try to reauthor using assets that as closely as possible match the originals?

For instance multiple angles. AFAIK the current utilities struggle with trying to connect the VobId tracks seamlessly in the Scenario which may or may not work due to the necessary audio delay corrections which may cause the audio stream to get too short for the cells to be connected seamlessly (please correct me if I'm wrong!). It would IMHO be much better (but of course also more work) to get Angle 1 as one large stream and then simply drop the Angle x video assets into the appropriate scenes in that large track (see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=68989) for a more detailed explanation). Similar for seamless branching, it is always possible to keep at least one version of the movie seemless (see http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70485 ).

In general, the demuxing utility should always try to create the least amount of assets that as closely as possible resemble the streams that were used to author the original disc. In fact, it shouldn't even bother the user with the decision whether or not to demux by VobId but should take that road by itself if necessary.

I used to work along these lines manually for a long time, but eventually got tired of the tedious manual demuxing and wrote my own little demuxing utility that I'd be willing to share if anyone is interested. Just so that you know I'm not just blowing hot air :). It is not very nice to look at because it's of course a batch file, but it requires very little manual intervention and should be easy to use. Understanding the directory structure it creates is another story ;) but I'm happy to explain. Note it does nothing in terms of Scenarist script creation, just what I call "optimized demuxing" because I prefer to author manually. It will also demux the complete DVD (except menus), you'll have to decide what to leave out during authoring.

Just my two cents :) OTOH, with jdobbs' ReBuilder all of this may soon be just unneccesary and we can ditch that Scenarist bitch :D

Eyes`Only

17th March 2004, 08:13

RB: OK I'm rather irked but I'm going to try to contain myself.

First off, what you did was rude. It was the equivalent of saying "your app sucks, it's worthless, my way rules, all your effort and countless hours investing in research and development are stupid". If anyone besides a respected member had posted that, I would have stricken them right away for netiquette. Did you happen to realize the subject of the thread? It's a thread about a new exciting app by D3s7, an announcement of a new version, and was intended to be full of discussion about bugs/issues found/resolved. I would have thought that was obvious.

That being said, why don't you actually TRY out our apps instead of avoiding them with every breath in your body? Maybe instead of scoffing, you could see a way that we could use our apps to create a better output. I for one can see an idea of concatenating the output m2vs from CCE into one large m2v, without the need for an extra .ecl.

D3s7: I for one appreciate all the time you've put and are still putting into making a better 'big3' solution, and I know many others who also thought the above post was very rude and have 'got your back', so don't get discouraged!

Trahald

17th March 2004, 08:31

@RB

While I do like the possibilities of the method and it definately would address some issues with vobid demux.. i too think the timing and placement of the reply could have been better (ie maybe a new thread?) In its own thread it could have just proposed the method w/out the unneeded comparison to the current applications. Any new ideas of better ways to do things are always welcome.. thats what big 3 has been.. a constantly improving method. But there isnt a good reason to introduce a new idea (or method) as a slap in the face of an old one.

Anywho.. my next vobid project i'll definately explore this method further. I respect your effort in this method and also the projects you have coded already and the hard work you put into them. Just please be respectful of the hard work others put into their methods/applications.

17th March 2004, 16:07

I want to apologize for any embarrassment I have caused. It was not my intention to upset you, D3s7 or anybody else who has invested countless hours in developing utilities that have made high quality DVD backups possible at all for so many people. Now reading my post again, I however do realize that it is a) misplaced and b) does not show the level of respect for the existing utilities that I have, of course!

I didn't want to offend anybody, just wanted to share my way of doing things, hoping others including Eyes`Only could benefit from it and be it only some fresh ideas maybe.

I'll resolve this with Eyes personally.

r6d2

18th March 2004, 03:48

Originally posted by RB
I'll resolve this with Eyes personally. Yeah, this really for your Eyes'Only. :D:D:D

Sorry, could not resist. :o

n1ck0s

19th March 2004, 12:13

Reporting a bug...

I think there are some issues w/ forced subs. It seems that streams w/ forced subs are excluded from the scenarist script. Its not difficult to import them manually, but someone must first delete overlapping subs, since there are two .sst files for each stream (forced subs are "mentioned" in both files).

D3s7

19th March 2004, 14:09

thanks n1ck0s.

I found a problem the other day that may be linked with this and should be resolved now

hopefully if I can fix these last few bugs I've managed to create we'll get another build out

influenza

19th March 2004, 14:17

hopefully if I can fix these last few bugs I've managed to create

almost sounds as if you're proud of that :D

matus2003

20th March 2004, 19:53

Hello D3s7, I tried your software, and I want to ask, is it normal to have in newly authored PGC on half of the Cells Layer Breaks? Sorry if this is stupid question. I simply want to know if I am doing something wrong, or if this is normal on reauthored material.
It is Abyss R2 PAL SE backup.

1) I did DIF4U by VOBID, menu by NuMenu4U
2) I did d2v manually using DVD2AVIdg
3) Change avs script with help of BR (Abyss region PAL video is not good somehow, there are shifted fields)
4) Create project on ScenAid, import to Scenarist.
5) Problem with subtitles, I had to get all of them away and put back manually
6) Output OK, back together OK, but when playing (both on PC and Standalone) I have slight pauses (about 1/4 - 1/2 sec) in audio and video. I checked ifo, and there are Layer Breaks almost everywhere.

Is it normal, or is there a help on this? The pauses are really annoying.

influenza

20th March 2004, 19:57

abyss is kinda ambitious since it's a true seamlessly branched title and scenarist can't handle those. So yes I would expect a lot of layer breaks. Maybe an other title is better for testing.

matus2003

20th March 2004, 20:13

Thanks for answer. "true seamlessly branched title" - where can I find more info about this? What is the purpose of Layer Breaks on newly authored material - helps to navigate changes between Cells? :confused:
Would it be the same with titles like Alien Quadrilogy?
In the end, my concern is not as much the backup itself, I just want to know how to do it properly an learn something new :)

influenza

20th March 2004, 20:15

yes alien quadrology is also seamless branching afaik.

It means that some pieces of video is woven into the main movie (like angles). Because scenarist can't do this you'll get the layer breaks.

Trahald

20th March 2004, 20:15

@matus.. yeah.. abyss was yucky.. seamed like there was only maybe 15 mins of the thing that wasnt seamless multistory. ilvu's all over the place. as flu said.. were stuck w/the layer breaks until scenarist supports multistory. i started playing with making something to maybe restore the multistory and remove the layer breaks but its harder than i thought.. gotta do more research on all the vob flags/settings.
dont hold your breath at this point tho :rolleyes:

in the meanwhile, something that is easy to implement within the current frame work of vobid demuxing is having scenaid lay the longest pgc (extended version) in a seamless fasion, setting all the flags as seamless, then laying the other theatrical version(s) this is similar to something rb suggested but easier to implement in the current vobid demux context. this would allow the extended version to play with no pauses, but you would just have them on the theatrical version.

for the time being.. thankfully, these titles represent the very smallest minority of titles but hopefully we can get them conquered as well

matus2003

20th March 2004, 20:45

Originally posted by Trahald
in the meanwhile, something that is easy to implement within the current frame work of vobid demuxing is having scenaid lay the longest pgc (extended version) in a seamless fasion, setting all the flags as seamless, then laying the other theatrical version(s) this is similar to something rb suggested but easier to implement in the current vobid demux context. this would allow the extended version to play with no pauses, but you would just have them on the theatrical version.

Is it possible to do this on authored project manually (in IfoEdit for example), or is there any easy way to do this in Scenarist on already generated project by ScenAid? (I hope I still have them)
I never give up, but just for fun: now I know it was stupid, but I edited ifo in IfoEdit, removed layer breaks and burn on RW just to test. Result was total block of my standalone (Panasonic DVD-RA82), at service they had to reset of player via service settings. DVD-RW was stuck inside, "Tray is locked" on the screen. So just a warning for others.

Trahald

21st March 2004, 03:43

basically after you load your scenarist script, itll have all your assetts added and audio and subs laid onto the tracks which is probably the longest step. then you goto the scenario editor.. and kill everything for the vts in question. the reset the pgcs in that VTS it (look at oxps t2(seamless branching) guide for inspiration, but lay your extended version pgc first from beginning to end (if its in title 2 make sure you put it into title 2) make sure all the flags on the cells (bottom row) in the scenario editor for that pgc are turned to SM and none (but the first cell) should appear as NSM..

NSM***** SM***** SM***** SM*****
* *-----* *----* *----* *
***** ***** ***** ***** (how it should look)

crude drawing but youll get the idea .. if any SM's say NSM then click on the cell and change the option in the box to 'seamless'. you will be able to change them all.
then just do the other pgc. experience at hand authoring in scenarist wouldnt hurt for this step ;) change as many as you can to SM. here, some wont give you the option.. just leave them as NSM... we already knew this was the sacrificial pgc... if there are more pgcs, do them too.

any nonseamless links will appear as layer breaks in the ifo.

ok.. now im not saying nonseamless again for a month ;)

wmansir

22nd March 2004, 03:45

Hey, D3s7, would it be possible to add an option to removed PCGs (replaced with blanks) like in Reauthorist? For removing unwanted extras.

D3s7

22nd March 2004, 20:17

Originally posted by Trahald
ere stuck w/the layer breaks until scenarist supports multistory.

hmm... I could have sworn the scripts have something about multistory...

D3s7

22nd March 2004, 20:21

Originally posted by wmansir
Hey, D3s7, would it be possible to add an option to removed PCGs (replaced with blanks) like in Reauthorist? For removing unwanted extras.

You want the ability to uncheck pgc's??

wmansir

22nd March 2004, 21:27

Originally posted by D3s7
You want the ability to uncheck pgc's??

Yes. It is convenient for Multi-PGC VTS sets that contain stuff you want and stuff you don't. I usually do this in Reauthorist.

Does it work if you uncheck them in DIF4U? I tend to think of unchecking in DIF4U means "leave alone/direct copy", checking means "proccess", but I haven't tried it with partial VTS sets.

D3s7

22nd March 2004, 22:07

I believe the partial works in Doitfast4u! as well (or the duplicate PGC check wouldn't work :P )

I'll consider it though

joaoccc

24th March 2004, 12:41

Hello

I'm trying to make a Copy of Pirates of Carabien. I extract the vts by VobId using Doitfast4u. But when i try to use Scenaid 0.9.0.5 it won't work. I let it analysing the demux directory during the night and after 8 Hours it don't give me any result.

Anyone knows why it happens ?

Thanks and regards

wmansir

24th March 2004, 19:48

PotC does have an odd layout (search for recent threads about it) which can cause DIF4U/DVDDecrypter to miss an audio track when demuxing. This happens in regular/duplicate PGC mode, but I don't know about by VOBID. Perhaps this is part of the problem?

D3s7

24th March 2004, 19:52

WOW.. 8+ hours...

I really am not sure what could cause that.. except maybe a wierd VOBID loop on the audio...

.6 will be out soon w/ numerous changes so hold tight a little longer

wmansir

25th March 2004, 21:58

hey D3s7,

I'm doing The Rundown (R1). The layout is simple. VTS01 is the main movie. VTS02, VTS03, and VTS04 are various extras, with VTS02 and VTS04 being multiPGC VTS sets.

The problem is that I unchecked the first PGC (of 6 PGCs) in VTS02 in DIF4U and it was replaced by dummy files, but when using Scenaid it skips over VTS02 entirely, only building VTS01, VTS03 and VTS04.

Fortunately this is a simple layout and Reauthorist can handle it, but I just wanted to give you a heads up on this potential issue.

D3s7

25th March 2004, 22:01

Hmm.. that ones new..

ScenAid didn't find it at all in the scan or just in the script?

All I check for is 1 .AVS and the .IFO... so it should have at least added it...

Thanks for the headsup

wmansir

25th March 2004, 23:20

Originally posted by D3s7
Hmm.. that ones new..

ScenAid didn't find it at all in the scan or just in the script?

All I check for is 1 .AVS and the .IFO... so it should have at least added it...

Thanks for the headsup

Nevermind.

I had copied a file called "VTS01_test.avs" into the VTS02 directory in order to perform some tests, apparently it's presence messed up the scan portion of scenaid, which caused it to skip over the directory/VTS02 entirely. Your note about checking for .avs files caused me to remember it and once it was removed the scan and script build worked fine.

Sorry for the false alarm.

XadoX

28th March 2004, 18:57

oh I've seen that the Screens in The Guide Section (http://www.sceneaid.com/) are already made with the .6 Version!

So the next release is quiet near :-)

matus2003

30th March 2004, 10:31

To Trahald: Thanks for the help and detailed guide - Abyss is OK now, or at least the special version is. In theatrical there are NSM all the time - too many cells there.
Your answer encouraged me to finalize it. Last step should be complete reauthoring of menu with new subtitles menu, but enough of Abyss :) Maybe when true seamless branching will be possible.

n1ck0s

3rd April 2004, 11:16

Oh man, I cant wait any longer! I check every 10 minutes for the .6 version.

</ScenAid junkie>

wmansir

3rd April 2004, 12:05

Originally posted by n1ck0s
Oh man, I cant wait any longer! I check every 10 minutes for the .6 version.

</ScenAid junkie>

GRRR..Why did you post? Every new post means I get my hopes up that a new version is out! ;)

Although to tell you the truth Scenaid 0.9.0.5 has been working flawlessly for me. NuMenu on the other hand....

wmansir

3rd April 2004, 16:07

I'm doing The Magdalene Sisters (R1), it has angles similar to those on Disney titles which show the credits in alternative languages depending on which audio track is selected. However, I don't care about the alternate angles so I just did it by PGC.

However, when I go to build the scenaid project in Scenarist I get:

Error Logically Adjacent option must be set, when Single->Angle or Angle->Single
Error C_PgcInfoTab::UploadFromDB TT_DOM failed
Error UploadFromDB failed. st<-1>
Error VTS Upload failed
Error DVD files could not be created

The Reauthorist script works fine. I was just trying Scenaid as a test. If you want the .log, .scp, or more info let me know.

Trahald

3rd April 2004, 18:40

ahh... just do the angles ;) j/k

EonBlue

5th April 2004, 09:50

I'm not sure but I think ScenAid creates a script based on if the project has angles so since you did it by PGC, I think you'll have to create it by hand or change the IFO so it doesn't have any angles, then ScenAid can create the correct script....I think.

D3s7

8th April 2004, 21:31

Currently ScenAid doesn't properly process Angle's by PGC

while yes you can demux angle assets via PGC this ONLY works if the angle is the full length of PGC

I could add an option to disable angles which would fix this type of issue however wouldn't help you much w/ bitrate if you already encoded them.

smokeslikeapoet

24th April 2004, 01:41

I've had some problems creating the DVD with Scenarist since I switched from ReAuthorist to ScenAid. On two different DVD's I've had overlapping subtitles, causing Scenarist to choke. Unfortunately I haven't been able to recreate the exact error because when I repeat the steps the problem seems to correct itself.

Craz

24th April 2004, 21:12

I can't get on the site www.sceneaid.com :(

Are there any other mirrors where I can get it?

D3s7

25th April 2004, 18:59

Not currently there isn't but you should be able to get there... site is up as far as I can tell

http://sceneaid.com

XadoX

25th April 2004, 20:16

i have some problem at Exporting a DVD in Scenarist.

the original dvd has dublicated VOBID, but i have demuxed WITHOUT VOBID. Makeing a Script with ScenAid .5 works fine. Importing also no problems. Only exporting results in a problem:

here the log:

Error Subpicture[1] (1:VTS_03_VSUB_P5A1-00-F-Eng_136.sp) and (2:VTS_03_VSUB_P5A1-00-F-Eng_137.sp) offset are overlapped (00:00:00;00-00:00:01;04) and (00:00:00;00-00:00:03;02)
Error dvd_mux : Open Mux_list File Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (BONUS-VTS03P05_t.vob).
Error Wrong mux_list. Mux_list format or stream ID may be wrong.
Error Multiplex is failed.
Error Multiplexing failed, Track "VTS03P05"

Error MuxFromDB:MuxVTS failed
Error Multiplex failed
Error DVD Video files could not be created

makeing a Script with the preBeta .6 i had found at the German Doom9 Forum results in more subtile problems. so what can I do?

jarvis1781

25th April 2004, 22:18

Originally posted by D3s7
Not currently there isn't but you should be able to get there... site is up as far as I can tell

http://sceneaid.com

the site has somehow changed to https://www.sceneaid.com

any word on the new update yet?

D3s7

25th April 2004, 22:53

yeah I just saw that myself..... emailed my hoster to see what's going on

I'm working hard to get the next build out.. soon hopefully :)

Lazarus Long

27th April 2004, 06:18

Originally posted by joaoccc on 24th March 2004 11:41
Hello

I'm trying to make a Copy of Pirates of Carabien. I extract the vts by VobId using Doitfast4u. But when i try to use Scenaid 0.9.0.5 it won't work. I let it analysing the demux directory during the night and after 8 Hours it don't give me any result.

I got almost the same thing with this same title.

After 39 hours (no I'm not kidding 39) it just stoped responding. It was started minimized by DoItFast4U! so I cannot see the error message (which happens when started minimized and for some reason it crashes), but the log doesn't give a clue at all.

Has anyone got a clue about this? Either the huge amount of time it took and the reason it fails with this title?

Thank you

fourtyfour

29th April 2004, 13:45

servus...

Can Scenaid 0.9.0.5 handle forced subtitle?

I made KillBill VOl. 1 RC2 with it. No errors while rebuilding. but in the player, nothing works like it should. no forced subtitle.

Or is IfoUpdate responsible for forced subtitle?

Edit:

Just checked the scenarist project. the two streams with forced subtitles are inside. but not selected as forced subtitle.
I mean it isn´t a problem to select them afterwards with ifoedit or in scenarist, if you have a forced subtitle stream only.

But what if you have the forced subtitle inside a normal subtitle stream?

Is it possible to set this in the script automatic?

D3s7

29th April 2004, 16:55

fourty : where you checking to see if it's forced or not?

Forced display is set in the "Data" tab and set PER .bmp.

Yes it should be detecting and labeling forced subs.

Check if there is in the subs demux directory not only a .sst but also a -forced.sst file - If not then that's why it's not showing them forced

fourtyfour

29th April 2004, 18:44

servus...

Weird. There are no forced subtitle neither in the sub folder nor if I look into the original ifo files.

But somehow, this subtitles (english and german stream) are forced, as I can see on standalone player (original DVD) and PowerDVD (mounted Image)

My created image has the same problems as the testdvd, so it isn´t a dvd player problem.
I´m doing some testing with subrip and this subtitles then I´ll see what´s going on.

About the Forced Flag

I´m using the simulation window for looking after the forced flag. It´s actually the same as you wrote above.

Actually, I don´t know how I can set 2 forced subtitles (eng for eng menu) (ger for ger menu).
First, I have to learn more about the structure of this movie and how forced subtitles are working without setting flags :)
I think it´s something about choosing language x, the menu is setting forced subtitle xx as well.

But I´ll see and let you know if I find a solution.

If you can give me a hint I appreciate it :)

Trahald

29th April 2004, 20:16

i can only speak for r1.there are no forced subs

that one has a translation stream (x20W,x21L) that only has english subs where they speak japanese in the film. and that is it. its not forced. although it is default on, it is not Forced

then x22WL is the regular english track which includes the translated parts.

x23WL+ are japanese, trad chinese, korean, french, spanish (not in that order) the japanese spoken parts (except in the japanese sub track of course) are translated to the according language.

fourtyfour

30th April 2004, 18:25

servus...

I agree, I can´t find any details about forced subtitle.

I think it´s made with a pre-command like:

If stream A selected, the always play "subtitle 6" .

Otherwise it would be a wonder why I got this "forced" subtitles

D3s7

30th April 2004, 19:04

Well if that's the case IFOUPdate will fix it

fourtyfour

1st May 2004, 19:41

servus...

I made the whole movie with original menu.

neither dts detection nor "forced" subtitle are making problems.

Everything works like it should :)

I guess, it´s all a problem of NuMenu4U, not for Scenaid.

D3s7

1st May 2004, 23:02

Glad to hear it

arlsair

2nd May 2004, 12:06

Scenarist crashes (Scenarist shuts down), when I try to import a ScenAid script. It is a multi angles movie so it is demuxed by vobid.
It crashes when Scenarist tries to import the tracks with the multi angles. The last line I see is

Info Importing VTS01_V1_C1-a3

where a3 is the last angle.

It is so for the last two multi angles dvds. The assets are Ok, as I made then the first multi angles dvd manually.

P.S.: Where can I find some Info, how to create the scenarist script ? I found nothing in the scenarist docu.

D3s7

2nd May 2004, 14:39

Originally posted by arlsair
Scenarist crashes (Scenarist shuts down), when I try to import a ScenAid script. It is a multi angles movie so it is demuxed by vobid.
It crashes when Scenarist tries to import the tracks with the multi angles.

Send me the Script... I should be able to see what's going on

P.S.: Where can I find some Info, how to create the scenarist script ? I found nothing in the scenarist docu.

There really isn't any... I used RA as a base point and went from there but found that really the best way is to create a scenario, export, examine

The basic script layout is fairly simple but it's these kinds of issues that makes it a little more difficult

XadoX

12th May 2004, 16:26

How long ago? Since the last post here :D

Sn8kbordin

14th May 2004, 08:26

Originally posted by smokeslikeapoet
I've had some problems creating the DVD with Scenarist since I switched from ReAuthorist to ScenAid. On two different DVD's I've had overlapping subtitles, causing Scenarist to choke. Unfortunately I haven't been able to recreate the exact error because when I repeat the steps the problem seems to correct itself.

I have the same problem. This is third DVD I tried to back up and subs are overlapping.

JackRipper

16th May 2004, 00:33

I have been following the development of ScenAid for a while and would like to report successful backup of Independence Day R4, PAL Special Edition (Ripped by VOBID using DIF4U 1.4.7, DoCCE4U, CCE 2.6.7 Trial, Scenaid 0.9.5, and Scenarist 2.6) keeping everything (Special + Theatrical versions, all 3 sound tracks and all subtitle). The main movie was compressed at 3Mb/s. And it looks great on my projection screen. No obvious problem that I can detect. Subs works perfectly. I am very happy!. Keep up the good work all you guys. :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

Marmis

16th May 2004, 14:19

www.sceneaid.com seems to be down and I would desperatly need ScenAid just now. I tried searching for it in Google, but all sites linked it to www.sceneaid.com

Is it a large file? Could anyone mail it or anything?

Thanks.

KamikazeCJ

18th May 2004, 02:47

If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Bare with me as I am new to this forum. I'm racking my head on this as I have done multiple encodes. I'm using the big three to shrink a DVD. (NuMenu, DIF4U, DOCCE4U, then trying the new Scenaid v 0905. All softwares are latest. I'm getting 2 errors while importing Master and Commander into scenaid. One is an "(5)invalid procedure call or argument" ( Audio::Item (line 50)). The other: "(91)Object variable or With block variable not set" (Form1::ProcessDIF (line 3280)). Any answers?
Thanks much:confused:

dodone

19th May 2004, 02:28

Few question about using this prog with DoItFast4U

1) Is it possible to open a dvd5 backed up on hard disk without using doCCe4u? I've been trying but it creates a scenarist script with mpv files i haven't in folders. If i rename the m2v files in mpv files, scenarist fails in importing.

2) Does "Scenarist NT & the big 3 new" way make possible to import in scenarist the exact structure of a dvd, including still menus and correct connections between pgps? Or i can get only pgps of the videos connected in a sequential way?

Not really concerned about the 2) point (although it would be great if i could have the exact copy of a dvd in scenarist:)) but the 1) point it's a shame, cause i would encode with a one-click solution and then operate with scenarist to change menus and audio streams, and i have some dvd5 too i would change in their audio streams and menus.

I'm a newbie in dvd encoding/authoring (although i know how to use scenarist), so i hope my questions aren't too silly :p

influenza

19th May 2004, 07:49

What's the point in 1? You can just burn a dvd5 to dvd-r(w) anyway

dodone

19th May 2004, 13:33

I think that the most usefull thing of scenarist is the possibility to change menù and audio stream, and when i say "change" i mean "change the ones on the dvd with self-made ones" and i have some dvd5 i want to change :)

influenza

19th May 2004, 13:35

ah ok. Well that's perfectly possible of course. just demux using dif4u. use scenaid/RA to generate a script. import into scenarist. Change what you want and compile

KamikazeCJ

20th May 2004, 04:27

A couple of days ago I asked for some help with some errors I was getting while importing movie files into Scenaid. I haven't gotten any answers so far. I'm sure there's got to be somebody out there who can throw a few answers my way... :D Here are my questions:

I'm using NuMenu, DIF4U, DOCCE4U, then trying the new Scenaid v 0905. All softwares are latest. I'm getting 2 errors while importing Master and Commander into scenaid. One is an "(5)invalid procedure call or argument" ( Audio::Item (line 50)). The other: "(91)Object variable or With block variable not set" (Form1::ProcessDIF (line 3280)).

PLZ PLZ help... Reauthorist should work but I wanted to try something different. I apologize in advance if I appear a bit impatient....

jel

20th May 2004, 05:17

hi KamikazeCJ and welcome to the forum!

unfortunately i doubt anyone but the author, D3s7, will be able to help you with your queries, as the error messages are very particular to the programming of Scenaid.

i am positive that your issues will be addressed in due course, however owing to the very nature of beta testing/development and the fact that D3s7 is coding this application in his spare time, i would honestly give ReAuthorist a try on this title, or leave your final steps of this back-up for a later day when a new version is released(or if your really game you could try to manually reauthor the title yourself ;) )

knowing d3s7, he is most likely coding like crazy to release a new version, however if instead, he is kicking it back on a beach with a tequila sunrise or 30, i personally wish him all the best - the break is well earned.

cheers

j

KamikazeCJ

20th May 2004, 06:02

or if your really game you could try to manually reauthor the title yourself

hehehe ... I'd rather be kicking it on a beach with a tequila sunrise...

Thanks, Jel, for your welcome and response! And to D3S7, Eyes Only, etc. a huge thumbs up keep up the great work. Maybe soon we'll have a one-click rebuilder like DVD Rebuilder but with all the control of DIF4U and company. I understand many concepts and structures of video processing and authoring but mastering some of these programs like scenarist with the time I can justify for it is a different story.